Thanks for a great review. I really was thinking about this site but based on the "tour" it looked rather skimpy as you just confirmed. But I haven't seen Andie on any other site. Can you give us a few of the other sites?
I thought Ginger was played by Tina Louise and was the glamour girl; and Mary Anne was played by Dawn Wells, the cute girl next door type. I got my rox off with Tina Louise back in the day.
I've got to say that, while it seems like a minor deal, this is still first class treatment and tells me, someone who has never heard of the sight until now, that this is an honest site with excellent business practices.
On 6 April, I used the TBP link to Bang Bros. The sign-up screen showed the $14.95 "special discount" price, so I signed up and started surfing their site. At no time did Bang Bros. advise me that the price I would be charged would be $23.95.
On 9 April, when I checked my Master Card account on line I saw that the charge came in at $23.95. That's when I communicated with Bang Bros. who denied any knowledge at all of the discount and of TBP. They refused to honor the discount.
Then on 9 April I sent an eMail to Khan, (PornUsers.com Sr Admin) which he quickly acknowledged receiving, but I have heard nothing back from him over the past week.
What concerns me is the credibility of TBP's discounts. There's really no way to determine their authenticity until the actual charge appears on a credit card and there's no way to cancel the charge once it has been made. It suggests that you should probably be willing to accept the full subscription price if the advertised TBP price is not honored by a site. And if the full price is too much, simply ignore the offer.
In fairness, I've successfully used the TBP discount on other occasions so I suspect this is a Bang Bros. issue, not a TBP issue. But not having heard anything from Khan other than the acknowledgment, I can add nothing to my initial comments.
EDIT: I see that Khan posted an update today. However my suggestion still stands. If TBP offers a discount and the site does not honor it (as was the case with Bang Bros.) there's nothing that can be done after the fact except to accept the full charge. So it looks like TBP discounts should be viewed as possibilities, not promises.
Andy, I understand yoiur point but I must disagree. Churches aren't into being anti-porn activists unless it directly impacts their operation...such as a porn shop with a hawker peddling to church goers on Sunday morning.
The people we need to be watching out for are those who are into governmental involvement in everything. Here in LA, for example, the government dictates just about everything we say and do, from the bags we use in the grocery to what can be carried on cable to how porn shops can sell and how their fronts can be displayed (nothing can be seen from the street except a small sign that just names the shop, not what they sell).
And this is LA, the home of the Porn industry and the moral relativist Liberals who condone murder convicts to go free to save money but condemn porn shops.
And yes. Even here in LA there is a substantial risk that our all Liberal city and county gummints will tax internet porn. It will start with their Sales Tax proposal (8.25% on all website subscriptions) but once the revenue starts, watch out.
The church folks in LA have no interest in this subject.
I used to do it (a few times) for sites that I had joined before joining PU and really remembered little except my overall impression.
I don't think just a rating without a review tells anyone a lot. A low rating deserves a stated reason (even a comment would do). Otherwise how is a member supposed to use a low rating in his consideration of a site?
TBP offers a special price of $14.95 per month for BangBros Network but I'm having difficulty getting BangBros' billing service to accept that price. I sent an email to Khan so he can address the issue. If you were planning to sign up for BangBros in the next day or two, you may want to wait a bit to see what happens with the discount.
Frankly if you are a member of the network, this addition is really superfluous because they (Brazzers) do a great job of combining all their sites in their index...and there's no benefit to joining just this one site (not sure if you even can). That makes this site more of a reason to load yet more content, A GOOD THING!
That said, The volume of updates on Brazzers is mind boggling. These guys must have a huge member base to be able to afford the volume and frequency of the high quality exclusive content they offer.
Whatever she wants. The act of fisting does nothing for me (I prefer the basic fingering where I get some tactile pleasure as well) but if it floats her boat, that's fine with me.
I do enjoy watching fisting on videos when the babe clearly enjoys it and would probably enjoy giving my babe that enjoyment as well.
What it means is that it makes no difference who pays for something...it's paid for and thus the user is entitled to use it without restrictions.
You get high speed from your school because it's paid for and you're entitled to use it. So why the criticism by others of your source? It's not relevant.
Bottom line, your beef, as is mine, is that Bang Bros operates it's downloads at a very slow speed.
BadAndy's point is the speed, or lack thereof, of the downloads, and he has a legitimate issue. But the focus was changed to how he accesses the web.
If my company sends me to Europe from Los Angeles and pays Business Class air fare on my behalf, is it wrong for me to complain about being assigned a middle seat in a sold out coach section just because it's my company that is paying my fare? Of course not.
The same applies to BadAndy. His beef is with download speed.
And yes, BangBros has a terribly slow download speed for their otherwise excellent site.
I had a 250 Gb external hard drive that was about 80% full. I packed it for a trip across country last Sept. and it worked fine at my destination. But when I got home the hard drive would not operate properly. A computer tech told me that I shouldn't rough handle an external hard drive because, unlike those external hard drives identified as "portable," it is easy to damage the drive.
I think I can get the stuff off the hard drive but I surprised myself. I really don't miss it, mainly because I can count on a ton of new stuff to replace it.
Interesting thing about porn, it's fun when it's around but when it goes away, no big deal.
I am getting a follow-up at least once a week but they offer no incentive to re-join (such as a discount price or an extra week or two) so it serves only to irritate, not attract return business.
I liked the site when I was a member, then canceled when I was expecting to be off-line for about a month. I planned to rejoin shortly after I returned but kept putting it off...then the weekly "we want you back" stuff started to show up. When I saw a review of Brazzers, I decided to give that site a try before going back to Bang Bros. Love Brazzers so I'm still holding out on Bang Bros.
I agree about natural sounds being audible. If there are no natural sounds, I'm fine with a bird chirping in the background or something like that just to make sure my speakers are operative.
I like music where the girl is dancing in the video but the music must be part of the content and not just dubbed in. Out of synch music is totally not good.
I'm glad I came in late so I know the point of the Poll.
I use "My Favorites" on the PU site to store sites where a review or a comment by someone I trust makes me want to consider signing up.
My budget maxes out at $50 per month with exceptions for sites that I want to sign up for longer stints. I've gone as high as $75 but find that that's a waste of money because I don't have time to visit all those sites frequently during a normal month.
So when I see a site written up on PU that looks very promising, I use the favorites feature because my mammary...oops I meant memory....isn't quite what it once was.
If your question is raised because you're thinking about removing it, please don't. But if you do, please give us some notice so I can copy the list.
The only problem is that the stuff that was downloaded when DRM was still in effect, and was accessible then by active members, is no longer accessible by active or former members because the site removed all DRM support. And, because the site also has removed some of its content, downloads that I made earlier (and paid for) are now just byte hogs and are totally useless.
And worse, unlike the good old days when Danni Ashe owned and ran the site, the support staff, such as it is, is non-responsive on almost all issues, especially issues like this.
So the full answer is yes, DRM is now history. That's a good thing. But for loyal customers of Danni's site who paid their money and played by the rules were screwed royally, and not in a good way.
No there are no orgasm sounds in the videos I've checked out so far, and I really don't expect I will find any in the rest. Perhaps if FTV gets her, as suggested by someone else, we'll get some of that.
Honeslty I missed the Live Cam pitch in the promo site. But just as well, There ain't any at all. Not even a dead link on the home page. There is a member's forum, however. But the last post on it was a Happy Valentine Day greeting on 2/14/08.
Your questions and my followup further demonstrate that this is a minor site with limited content that is not being energetically maintained. Looks like they decided to take all their new Shay Laren material and set uip a new site to generate a new source of revenue.
As I said in my review, if you're a Shay fan, and if you like the Glamour Models Gone Bad site, sign up on Shay's site for a month then save $5.00 and sign up for the GMGB site. (Check out that site's reviews on PU. I like the site and will likely sign up after my Shay Laren site membership expires.)
I checked a few sets and found that sizes range from 682x1023 to 1333x2000, with a few odd sizes here and there (one sample thumb at 133x200 is included in some downloaded sets where the photos are predominately 1333x2000)
The photography is excellent, highly professional stuff.
That must be new because I cancelled last Nov. with no such offer. I'm seriously considering going back because I miss it and the commentary of the models and the photographer. I also love the videography. That guy knows how to accentuate all of the positive attributes of the babes while making them real, not plastic, people.
OK nygiants03, in an uncharacteristic act of kindness, just for you I signed up on the Shay Laren site. (OK, I'll admit it. Shay has about the finest set of natural hangers in the business and ol' Willy snaps to rigid attention whenever I see any of her stuff so it wasn't much of a sacrifice. ;-) )
I just posted a full review of the Shay Laren site with full details on the quantity of material and other details.
Shay does soft core only with only a little lesbo action. There was only one 4.23 minute lesbo video - a foursome with 3 other girls who are not built like Shay. Shay does a little muff munching but nothing except tit massage is done to Shay. The video is 620 but is not the best quality so if you're a video fan as I am, sign up if you want to check her out in some outstanding solo scenes. (There's one interview video from Digital Dreamgirls - and one other DD Girls watermark video - in the 10 other videos on the site.)
There are 11 lesbo photo sets out of 90 with Anita Dark, Mindy Vega, Crystal Klein and Lisa A Daniels in 2-somes, 3-somes and one 4-some.
Everything is from good to superb quality.
Although signup set me back $29.95, being a Shay Laren fan, I'm OK with the content. But just for one month. She has a lot of content on Danni and more on Twistys, so I suggest just a one month signup, then spend the money next month on one of the other two sites.
There's also a blog, but her last entry was last October, which suggests that she's no longer active in the site.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
Superb quality photos and videos
Some videos at 1720
All relatively fresh content
Photos are all zipped
Photos appear to be actively updated (last update was today, 3/30/08)
Normal speed download of both photo sets and videos (broadband)
All content is Shay Laren, most solo with a few lesbo shoots/vids
Subscription includes 6 other sites (see "bottom line" for details)
90 photo sets in three categories: Candid (8 sets), Girl/Girl(11 sets) and Solo (71 sets).
Easy navigation (site is too small to be complex)
Cons:
Light on content
No video updates since November, 2007 but new photos were added today (3/30/08)
UPDATE - 2 new videos added in early April, each about 11 minutes and each almost identical in content. Photos added on 4/5/08, none since.
Way overpriced as a standalone site, but partner sites make its price less terrible.
Personal blog has not been updated since last October.
The advertised Live Cam is non-existent.
Bottom Line:
$29.95 subscription gives access to: Glamour Models Gone Bad (huge content maintained daily) Amateurs Gone Bad (huge content maintained daily) Crissy Moran (static) (47 vids, lots of pix last u/d 2/08) Natalia Cruze (static) (2 vids, lots of pix last u/d 4/07) Lonnie Waters (static) (10 vids, lots of pix last u/d 1/08) Jesse Capelli (static) (25 vids, lots of pix last u/d 11/07)
Each of the sites in this list offer the other four for 24.95. The Shay Laren site is not available on any of them. That means if you like Glamour Models Gone Bad but want access to the Shay Laren site, you should sign up on the Shay Laren site first. It's $5.00 more but the content offering is worth the $5.00 if you are a shay Laren fan.
I have a normal speed cable modem and was able to "drain" all of the site's videos in about 5 hours. There are a total of 90 photo sets as of 3/30/08, and it looks like they are adding new sets quite frequently. There are a few more Shay Laren downloads available on Glamour Models Gone Bad.
BOTTOM LINE: If you like Shay but are not interested in any of the partners, $29.95 is way, way too much to pay for the currently paltry Shay Laren offerings. However, if the other sites are good for you long term, sign up for Shay's site for a month, drain it, then cancel and sign up next month for one of the partners.
The score of 84 is based on the small quantity of Shay Laren only. Considering the entire package, including the partner sites, it's a 90
GlamourModelsGoneBad and the others are all $24.95 sites and each offers the others as "bonus sites." But none of them offer Shay's site. So for an extra $5 to get Shay Laren as an add to the other sites may be a good deal.
I plan to sign up on Shay's site to check it out (looks I'll be the first PU member to do so) and will report back.
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