JD, I didn't go by the TBP settings. I searched on TBP with the word "teen" to see how many sites were showing up with the word in their name, a whopping total of 1,355 sites have teen in their name. When I mentioned teen as a genre, that was just the way I looked at the word in a site's name.
Hey Denner, we shouldn't hold our breath on that new site. I've been watching it since March, and no new news has come up about it. I don't know what is going on. Eve's wikipedia page says "She is opening a new exclusive website, Eve Angel Official, which is planned to open in the spring of 2009. It will be the only website on the Internet to have fresh sets of her".
I guess the spring they are talking about was the one that passed last month. I hope it opens soon.
After reading the comments on this one, I'm still kind of stuck. I always took "teen" as a genre, as in younger models. Just like the sites that use MILF for matures, even though an 18 year old model could be a MILF. That's one to think about for awhile. I'm going to scan TBP for sites with "teen" in the name and see what I can come up with. To think, my wife says I never learn anything new!
My uncle used to say, "Women do get finer with age like vintage wine does, just divorce one after 20 years of marriage and see how much more she costs you than if you divorced her after one year"
I finally remembered the name of the first site I joined. I joined it on a trial basis in 2002, it was one of those trials that says once you pay you get to see it all. I paid the trial, all I saw was her in a shower, covered with bubbles. I then joined the site, $30! She still didn't show it all! That site is Sweet Dominique. It is now part of a network that also has Brooke Skye's site on it. I don't think any of the sites update anymore. Damn tease.
They seem to have several DVDs from the Private studio, which is one of my favorite porn studios for Euro porn. They also have some Asian content that interests me like the Sporting DVDs. As a life long student of the martial arts, it would be interesting to see an Asian girl practicing her kata then having sex, even more so with part of her uniform still on. Oh the martial art skies just rumbled.
Do not be distracted. Do not lose focus. The good news for the skies is that I can't be distracted, the damn search engine doesn't work at all and when I go to sign up it won't let me read the terms of the site before transferring me to some billing service that I've never used.
I searched Eva Angelina, Aneta Keys and Simony Diamond, one at a time and received the exact same results for them. The search is split into four search categories, Title, Cast, Updates and Video #.
Video # seems to be some kind of UPC type code they use to number their videos. Now tell me, if I am on the page of the video that has the number on it, why in the hell would I need to search for it?
The page you get when you click "Sign Up" gives me a whopping 5 seconds to read the terms before redirecting me to their billing processor. They aren't trying to hide their 8 GB daily download limit, but it is still a pain when trying to read about a site that uses a biller that I had never heard of decides to redirect me. I kept clicking the back button and would read one line at a time. On this page that you get 5 seconds to read, there is the mention of the Daily Download Limit of 8 GB, there is a link to copy down so you can cancel as well.
The billing processor is Verotel Tickets Club. It is McAfee checked as of today, and I would guess everyday, but I know nothing about it.
The 8 GB limit isn't going to bother me that much. I would prefer it not be there, but that is still 240 GB per month, and I only have a few sites on my hard drive that I have half of that number from.
I wonder if paysites really understand how important the billing processor is to potential members? And please, fix the search engine. It is a DVD site, the one kind of site that a bad search engine can sink.
I was shocked to see the ultra softcore model Gemma Massey as Twisty's July Treat of the Month. Not because she isn't hot, quite the contrary, I've joined multiple sites over the last year or so just to see her tease sets. She has almost always showed her boobs, some butt shots, some frontal nudity, but I have never seen her take the step to spreading, or bending over. So, I was a little concerned that these forthcoming Gemma sets would continue in her ultra tease ways. I then clicked the preview button. The video shows parts from most of the sets they will post this month and there it was. Full spread shots, hard to tell if she is masturbating, but for as long as she has teased me, I'm willing to compromise here.
I would say this is as big of a deal as when 1byday had Aria Giovanni on their site. Aria and Gemma are both known for being major teases. I thought I would mention this since I know Denner likes Gemma and a few others as well. You can check the preview out without being a member.
I was a member a few months ago, the recycling isn't as frequent since this one is based around the feet/leg niche, but there was a few sets that I had from 1byday on it. DDF Busty and Hands on Hardcore seem to be the two that are the worst for recycling from 1byday. The biggest change I noticed is that Hot Legs and Feet is still a feet/leg fetish site, but there is more masturbation and more b/g sets than there used to be. The last time I talked to anyone at 1byday, they still are saying the "recycled" sets on their sites are not identical. I had mentioned some of the Aria sets from 1byday showing up on DDF Busty, the explanation they gave was, "Same outfit, same setting, different poses". Kind of like buying a alternate take cd. I haven't taken the time to check this out though.
If you still have your membership and want to get a laugh out of a music track, check out the Eve Angel/Black Puma video, it was filmed in two parts. This was either the first or second video set Twistys had of Eve. The music is a direct loop all the way through, but it gets damned catchy after awhile!
Hey GCode, I never tried this site because it is owned by the same guys that run FC Nudes. My review has probably expired of FC Nudes, but you can still check it out. To put it mildly, they over-exaggerate in their tours and once on their site as a member. I barely remember FC Nudes, but I do remember that the advertised something like 70 models including my favorite Eve Angel. I joined it. Got inside, the model list starts listing the models...no Eve Angel! I finally find her and click her picture. It says, "Coming soon". There was around 30 of these different models that were "coming soon", so there was really on 35-40 models available. It was probably the worst I had ever been duped by a site. I still didn't give them a 50, I believe a 59, but I really wouldn't recommend their sites unless someone posts and can confirm that they have improved their business practices.
I looked on Euro Babe Index and there is a Leticia there that looks very similar. I won't link it, try Euro Babe Index then click Babes and the L. The picture and galleries it shows are from the 21st Sextury sites, so she is going to look overly-made up, but that looks like her to me.
I gave the site an 85 just for the beautiful women. I looked at it as if it were a model site and since most of the women haven't been on any other sites, I had to give it an 85. There was a couch? I do think the price should come down, but I'm guessing Thomas has to pay a hefty chunk of money to get those gorgeous women to swallow him! His site and Dream Stash are two of those sites that bring up the whole "why is this legal, but prostitution isn't" question. Oh and that maybe answers the question of why it is always the same guy. The two guys that run Dream Stash and this site have both all but said they don't film just for the viewer's pleasure. They're getting their money worth!
I didn't realize they advertised as exclusive. I thought that was just a error on the TBP page, remember that those original pages could have been posted awhile back. I do think there is some of what badandy is talking about, the content was exclusive at some point. I know that they use Fred the photographer and his work is on many sites. If you will look at Spencer's review he lists it as "semi-exclusive"
The way I would compare the two sites is that everything Babelicious has on Sexy Babes, UK Babes, is non-exclusive. The actual content on Babelicious though is probably 70% exclusive, but it only makes up about 1/3 of their total content. Xisty has a bit more exclusive content, especially the hardcore b/g sets they have.
To answer JD's question, the sites aren't ran by the same person. Babelicious' main guy is Nick. Xisty's is named here as Crazy8, but having talked to him as a member, I can say that his name isn't Nick.
The sites are similar though, and both sites are similar to Teen Dreams, Twistys, and the rest of the multi-model supersites. There is overlap of content on each site.
I still want to say that Xisty has more exclusive than the others, but I haven't been a member since December 2008. Have no idea why, but Xisty has the best looking photos of the sites listed. Their colors really jump out at you. In exclusives, I would say Xisty, Twistys, Teen Dreams, Babelicious, in that order.
I've had technical issues with VB as well. One thing you can try if you are streaming videos is to clear your cookies out. I would recommend CCleaner's software for that. I think they have had other problems with streaming as well. Doesn't seem like they've had that option for that long.
As far as the emails, I've been there with VB as well. I've sent probably 6-7 over the years and never received an answer to any of them. My guess is they have gotten too big for their own good. Not enough staff to give good customer support. I still rate the site high though. My problem comes when downloading videos, I will maybe 1 out of 10 videos that I try to download, get a screen that says something happened to the server and the system is notifying a backup server, "Try again later". Good luck with getting an answer, though you never know, posting here could bring an answer since the VB webmaster (Jeepster) has been active here at times.
The content on both ALS sites has a little of everything except boy/girl. There are no boy/girl sets on either site. The majority of the videos are solo masturbation, these can be fingers, dildos, wand vibrators. There is a little girl/girl, ALS Scan has more girl/girl than ALS Angels. Both sites have "photoshoot" videos. These are generally not very popular unless you like watching a video of a model posing. They do label those clearly in case you don't want to waste your time with those. They also have fisting. The fisting can be self-fisting or assisted fisting. I'm not a big fan of fisting, but the assisted ones are very good. They bring in one of their tiny ALS Scan models to fist the model from ALS Angels. There is an Eve Angel being fisted by Nadia Taylor that is one of the most believable and erotic videos I've seen. Eve smiles while being fisted and says, "You are very good". That's a big deal since Eve rarely speaks, and even rarer to hear her talking in English. She has 3 years of daily videos on Eveangel.com and never said a word in any of them.
Comparing them to the super sites like Xisty, Teen Dreams, In Focus, Twistys. I don't think the sites are that similar. Those sites seem to be more polished/planned out. ALS will give you a little more of a natural real feel. The thing that pushes ALS ahead of most sites is that they treat models with a ton of respect and don't badger them with stupid questions. ALS will say things like, "Hi Eve, glad to have you back. You look gorgeous as usual" and it is like magic. The girls start smiling more and act more natural.
One other part on their videos, they do have some speculum/gyno object videos. I don't mind these.
The big complaint I have is that ALS Angels should be merged with ALS Scan. An example, ALS Angels has 6 video updates in June. ALS Scan has 31. ALS Scan also has four 1byday bonus videos. They could realistically squeeze those ALS Angels videos in the place of the 1byday videos. Don't let this complaint push you away though. As a new 1st time member, ALS Angels has nearly 300 videos in their archive so the lack of new updates isn't that big of a deal to a new member.
Some of the models. They have Eve Angel, Sandra Shine, Regina Ice, Sandy Waltrick/Summers, Andie Valentino, just to name a few of my favorites and they have 6-12 sets of each. One other con, many of the older picture sets are separated into parts. This is very "old" style for a website. This means to get say Eve in Blue Bikini, you have to download 4 files, 1st file will be pic #1-#15, second file #16-30 and so on. You just get the feeling they treat Angels like a second rate citizen when compared to ALS Scan. I've tried to convince Alex (the owner/webmaster) to merge but he won't. Last tip, not to cheat on TBP, but you can get a discount for both of their sites at paysitediscountdotcom, $5 off. And they usually will send you emails with discounted rates. Sometimes even $10 off. Hope that helps.
Yeah, I had noticed the set on Mike's Apartment as well. It seems they get as many of the top Euros as any of the Euro sites do these days.
Cindy has definitely developed as a model. I have some content of her from 2005 or 2006 that is just plain boring, she doesn't "come off" as innocent, she really is innocent in those. She acts like she is scared to death.
Club Sandy pictures and the other 21st Sextury sites are still rolling out the 1280 high end pictures. They keep saying there is going to be a raise in the quality, but I haven't seen it yet. I will give them one thing though, they are bringing in some new models that are much better than the new ones the other Euro sites have. Oh and they have a new set of Cameron Cruz/Mona Lisa that just blew me away. She has cut her hair even shorter, but it is layered. Looks stunning on her.
I saw a new Cindy set recently on Club Sandy, had no idea Cindy was getting implants. They look okay if you haven't seen them yet, she looks to be a B cup now, so she didn't overdo it, but she does have two very visible scars and she is blonde in it. That surprised me even more. She kind of has a whole Christina Aguilera look in the set. The boob size difference is similar to when Sandy got her implants.
I was hoping that you wouldn't take my post as anything more than a continuation to the discussion, and I think you picked up on that. I think, I could be wrong, but the way I take it is similar to Chris Rock's "Negro" skit. He would mimic a rich stereotypical rich stuck-up white guy. He would say, "Oh great thanks to Tiger another negro is on the golf course" and "Oh look at that negro with his white girlfriend, she must be a whore". I really didn't take it that way until I read the the little stories with each preview video and saw, "Gated community". I think one of their other sites is also based on a comedy routine, the "I fucked your stupid face" one. I'm thinking that is an old Will Farrell comedy routine where he is acting like a non-English speaking person and says, "Shut your stupid face or I'll fuck your stupid face".
I guess more than anything, it is another reminder to how unoriginal porn has become.
After reading the answers, I'm not for sure if the question is asking if I believe the models are under 19 and 18 or above. One of the best discussions we have had on here was awhile back about how we have to remember that some of the sold as "teen" models have aged since the content was made. A few examples, I still see Eve Angel being sold as a teen model, Twistys even has her age listed as 19. Yet, they have content of her that goes back 5-6 years. I believe Eve is 26 or 27, going by her birthday on her bio.
The other side is the models that just look young. Cindy Hope to me looks all of 18 or maybe 19, she is 23 or 24. Anetta Keys is another like Cindy, she looks 18 or 19 but is 25 or 26.
I don't know if I would call it racism. Racism is a form of hatred. Looking at the preview, it actually looks more like reverse-racism shrouded under an offensive name. The site mentions "watch powerlessly as your wife feasts on black cock" Later it says "The scandalous white wives"
More importantly once you get beyond the main page, you get one video description from one of the husband's that is titled, "Don't tell them about my baby cock" and the white wife is showing the sub-one inch size with her fingers while giving the black guy a blowjob, the husband's response is, "I'm sorry I can't satisfy you and that I'm fat and lazy. I love you. Why did you bring home this scumbag and why are you sucking his dick on my sofa, laughing at me? I'd never hurt you like this, you fucking bitch. I wish I could leave you, but I'm too weak. I guess I'll just endure this humiliation. Fuck."
Each of the other samples has another supposed response from the white husband and here those are, "Look at that smug look on his black face. Why did she bring him here? She had to know you'd come home and catch her with this degenerate. God, look at his giant black balls. Why the fuck is his dick so big? What's the point of that. She won't stop sucking it, and there's nothing I can do about it. Fucking bitch!"
Another, "I did everthing I could. I live in a gated community. I have a top notch security system. How did this hoodlum get in my house? My fucking whore wife let him in. And now she's going to suck his giant smelly cock why I watch in shame. I wonder what we're having for dinner tonight."
Another, "I can't believe she's doing this to me. Where the fuck did she find this guy? I tried to be a good husband, but nothing I do is good enough for her. And now she's humiliating me by letting this black scumbag defile her mouth and rub his black ass juices all over my couch. Marvelous."
So in the big picture you have an offensive site name towards blacks, but inside, the black guys are getting all the women and the white guys are amazed and blown away by how endowed the black men are while they have sex with their wives. If there is hatred, it is towards white men. There also is the assumption that the white man couldn't physically stop the black man, "Watch powerlessly as your wife feasts on black cock".
Blame Drooler, he made me do it! Seriously Alex, wouldn't you rather us joke around AND point out the mistakes, instead of cussing you and your site out over mistakes? I've noticed that many sites have taken the comments left here and put them to good use in improving their site, plus we all get a chance to laugh a little. And if you fire everyone, who will be checking your work?
The main thing I will say is if you find the models unattractive that VB has, you most likely shouldn't be planning on joining many other sites. They have one of the biggest collections of TOP models on the internet. Hard to possibly believe that you are that disappointed in the models' looks.
Also not for sure what you mean by the technical quality. If you download the DVD versions of their movies, the minimum resolution is 640x480 (standard view) or 720x480 (widescreen) with bitrates that vary between 3,500-7,000 kb/s. The industry standard for DVD resolution is 640-720x480 with bitrates between 3,000-10,000.
Either way, you mention that thagnut didn't put up an intelligent debate, you didn't put up anything to debate! Just a few mass generalizations to justify a 70 score with no examples. That is the main reason you're getting this much flak. If you truly believe it is a 70 and gave some really good points, even if just your opinion, I doubt you would have had as many negative replies.
Heh, I never figured out much of anything on the site! I ended up leaving the site after the 3rd day of the 5 day membership and not going back. The content I downloaded is pretty good, some of the girls are really cute, most are Brazilian and the quality is excellent, but there are some really softcore shoots too. Nothing more frustrating than downloading a 1 GB file that is a girl rolling around on a bed for 15 minutes! What I think the big problem is, the site/network is trying to be too many things at once. Some of it looks artsy, some of it is raw hardcore, some of it is trying to be very erotic, and so on. Its like they need to find a happy medium and at least make that the basis the sites are built on. The pictures are a waste, no zips, and that is a shame since they do have nice coloring and feel to some of the picture sets. Reminds me a bit of the 21st Sextury sites quality of photos, they have a warmness to them. Oh and some of the videos, hardcore b/g especially seem to end before they are supposed to. No cumshot of any kind. Add to this that these models are mostly unknowns, making the search feature pointless since we don't know their names.
I will say this for them. After reading through their forum, if nothing else, they are trying very hard. I don't know if they are doing it yet or not, but they had a thread that talked about if guests would join their forum, they would give them 4 full length clips to sample. They really know their video quality is that good and it is. Just seems to be production problems stop the quality from really showing. Also the language barrier. I speak pretty fluent Spanish, my wife's native language is Spanish as well, but some of the girls are speaking Portuguese. I remember that some part of Rio, maybe half of it speaks Portuguese instead of Spanish, so that hurts too. Ending with, the girls are still very cute ha ha.
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