Blame Drooler, he made me do it! Seriously Alex, wouldn't you rather us joke around AND point out the mistakes, instead of cussing you and your site out over mistakes? I've noticed that many sites have taken the comments left here and put them to good use in improving their site, plus we all get a chance to laugh a little. And if you fire everyone, who will be checking your work?
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A resounding yes! The photos have been added to the video site and are zipped.
- Viv Thomas, to me, is probably one of the top 3 producers/photographers of Euro porn.
- Right at 900 video scenes
- Videos are good, not great, 640 high end, 2000+ bitrate, looks good on my monitor. There is talk of HD videos coming soon.
- Pictures are still a bit smallish, 1280 max, but are zipped and there is talk of 1600-2000 high end in the future.
- Excellent download speeds
- Navigation works perfectly, even with the added photo sets. I use the model search, click model, page opens has videos here, pictures there, click the one you want and there you go.
- Photo sets date back to 2004.
- Updates have 14 updates this month, today is the 15th, so either a video or photo set each day.
Cons:
- Things are going good when I start nitpicking on the first con, would like to see the HD videos and higher resolution photos happen.
- Some of the photo sets are small in amount of photos, some sets are as small as 45 photos.
- Photo sets are non-exclusive, but not all of them, there are some exclusives and though non-exclusive, they were shot by Viv, he has just leased them out to others. A few of the videos are now non-exclusive, Videobox has recently added several of Viv's DVDs. Videos also can be gotten from Teen Dreams as bonus videos, but are of lesser quality, sub-1000 bitrates.
Bottom Line:
One of my older external drives crashed last year and I lost 85 GB of Viv videos because of it. Luckily for me, I had separated my favorite models videos from his site onto another newer drive, but still I had planned to return. I don't know when the zipped photo sets were added, but that was a huge surprise to me.
The catch and where a bit of confusion comes in, the photo updates here are not the same as the photo updates on Viv's photo site, BUT the archives are very similar. At this point though, the pictures are icing on the cake.
The videos, we talk a lot about how hardcore porn has lost something. Usually the word "eroticism" comes up, and I do believe Viv does eroticism better than any producer in the world.
Some of the things we see in current hardcore porn, men spitting on the women, slapping, and the almost always facial. You will see facials in Viv's videos, but no more often than you will see cumshot to the boobs, to the back/butt, to the stomach. A lot of the b/g scenes end in whatever position they are in, meaning you don't have to sit through a guy standing up and beating himself off to cum on the girl's face. If they are in doggy, the guy pulls out and cums on her back or butt.
There is no smacking, no spitting.
Viv's greatest strength in my opinion is his ability to get the best out of the female models. One can see it now with the model Cindy Hope, Cindy is a very cute model, but she has never shown that much that would lift her to superstar status. Her newest video for Viv, has lifted her to superstar status. She always seemed to be going through the motions, now she looks to be enjoying herself. I could even go back to Eve Angel's career before Viv, she was a cute average model. Viv had her in a few b/g scenes, then put her with other girls only or solo and she won an AVN award for best lesbian scene.
I will keep every video I download from this site on its own WD Passport hard drive and won't delete them. That is how good the videos here are.
Here are some numbers direct from the members area. Just to show the high number of top Euro models he has on this site and how much content of each.
Now to throw the huge staggering blow. The lovely, innocent but oh so dirty Jo, Monica Sweet, 72 videos and 63 photo sets!
Not to worry, these are just 6 or 7 of my favorites, there are over 700 more models on here. I think though you can see just how much content there is by looking at those I focused on.
At this point, with all of the same ol', same ol', sites out there, I can recommend this site as highly as any site on the internet. Oh and there is a nice mix of b/g, g/g and solo. The g/g scenes are probably the most believable on the internet. Highly recommended.
The main thing I will say is if you find the models unattractive that VB has, you most likely shouldn't be planning on joining many other sites. They have one of the biggest collections of TOP models on the internet. Hard to possibly believe that you are that disappointed in the models' looks.
Also not for sure what you mean by the technical quality. If you download the DVD versions of their movies, the minimum resolution is 640x480 (standard view) or 720x480 (widescreen) with bitrates that vary between 3,500-7,000 kb/s. The industry standard for DVD resolution is 640-720x480 with bitrates between 3,000-10,000.
Either way, you mention that thagnut didn't put up an intelligent debate, you didn't put up anything to debate! Just a few mass generalizations to justify a 70 score with no examples. That is the main reason you're getting this much flak. If you truly believe it is a 70 and gave some really good points, even if just your opinion, I doubt you would have had as many negative replies.
Heh, I never figured out much of anything on the site! I ended up leaving the site after the 3rd day of the 5 day membership and not going back. The content I downloaded is pretty good, some of the girls are really cute, most are Brazilian and the quality is excellent, but there are some really softcore shoots too. Nothing more frustrating than downloading a 1 GB file that is a girl rolling around on a bed for 15 minutes! What I think the big problem is, the site/network is trying to be too many things at once. Some of it looks artsy, some of it is raw hardcore, some of it is trying to be very erotic, and so on. Its like they need to find a happy medium and at least make that the basis the sites are built on. The pictures are a waste, no zips, and that is a shame since they do have nice coloring and feel to some of the picture sets. Reminds me a bit of the 21st Sextury sites quality of photos, they have a warmness to them. Oh and some of the videos, hardcore b/g especially seem to end before they are supposed to. No cumshot of any kind. Add to this that these models are mostly unknowns, making the search feature pointless since we don't know their names.
I will say this for them. After reading through their forum, if nothing else, they are trying very hard. I don't know if they are doing it yet or not, but they had a thread that talked about if guests would join their forum, they would give them 4 full length clips to sample. They really know their video quality is that good and it is. Just seems to be production problems stop the quality from really showing. Also the language barrier. I speak pretty fluent Spanish, my wife's native language is Spanish as well, but some of the girls are speaking Portuguese. I remember that some part of Rio, maybe half of it speaks Portuguese instead of Spanish, so that hurts too. Ending with, the girls are still very cute ha ha.
Glad to have helped on that one. I did give Twistys and Teen Dreams bonus points in their reviews for this feature that makes downloading lots of content much easier than most sites do. Earlier today, I loaded 135 .wmv and .zip files into on Teen Dreams in less than 5 minutes. Laid down and took a nap, got up a few hours later and everything was downloaded perfectly into the folders I had assigned the downloads to, no broken files, Firefox really is a great browser for porn once you get the add-ons and extensions.
Hey Drooler, I stumbled across that Euro Babe Index announcement a few weeks back while checking for any new Eve content. I was really worried at first since the picture showed Eve with Woodman, and I thought he was going to be running her site. That isn't really a bad thing, but his sites are mostly in French.
Then one day while brushing up on my psychology jargon, I somehow typed in Eve Angel on wikipedia and found out about the new DDF site. Gotta love being paid to search for Eve! Anyway, the site is here www.eveangeloffical dot com. Thing is, now I'm worried about it too. I remember what a mess DDF made of that Cherry Jul solo site and who can forget the ill-fated Sandy's Fantasies? I'm hoping his supposed deep love for Eve and what he calls, "A living sculpture of the perfect natural woman" will make him work harder on her site. We all know Eve can handle the daily update schedule, so fingers are crossed on this one. Also wondering if he will slap that DDF standard $35 a month on it right from the start.
Like I told badandy a few weeks ago when I found the new site, my dumbass will be there credit card in hand as soon as it opens, $35 or not. I signed up for the email updates that is on the splash coming soon page, but have only received one email so far and all it says is coming soon, spring 2009. Oh and if you haven't seen the splash page, be sure to go by and check it out, beautiful picture of Eve on her belly, side view of her butt. I would hope DDF runs with her elegant woman look she has in that one and most of her newer sets instead of trying to make her look younger.
Twistys site is very friendly if you work with it a bit. You can change what your left mouse click button does to download on one click. I have mine set to download .zip/.rar and .wmv/.mov/.avi
When you do this on Twistys, you can download movies by clicking the movie you want, then clicking by which part you want or full scene. Only needing two clicks.
The pictures zips are even easier, you don't even have to open the sets up. You can just left click the little zip icon beside of each set and it starts downloading. So those only take 1 click.
Another tip that the webmaster at Teen Dreams gave me awhile back is to use the add-on for Firefox, "DownThemAll"
If you go to a model's page on Twistys, you can list in the extension filter to download only .zip files. One click on the model's page in a blank area of the page, click downthemall in you context menu and it will load up all of the model's zips in that one click.
Twistys and Teen Dreams are two of the few sites that are programmed this way and it really makes downloading very easy. TD takes it a step further by having their movies on the model page already listed as .wmv, so you can also add the extension, .wmv to the filter and it will download all of the zips and movies for that model with one click. Very handy and efficient.
I don't think we have come close to connecting on any of these posts. You say my logic is flawed. Let me show you flawed logic.
McDonalds advertises breakfast on television and on their outdoor menu. If they up and stopped serving it, but was still advertising it, that would be false advertising. NA advertises "regular updates". You said on the worst case scenario week that they could have 8 new updates and 5 remastered updates. That is regular updates.
Moving on, when I said NA isn't a premium site, that is based on price. They are a bargain site. My comparison between regular unleaded gas and premium unleaded gas was, yes, far-reaching, but not flawed. You are expecting a bargain priced site to deliver more than the premium sites do.
You can look at my reviews to see that NA is ranked tied for 15th out of 160ish reviews I've posted. So, I too like their site, but when they lowered the price, I wondered if that would mean less updates.
For example, the original price had been $25 a month, if they gave you 13 new updates a week, which would be 52 in a month, that would be 48 cents per update.
Now they are charging you $15 a month. And using your example numbers of 13 new updates one week, 8 the next, that would be 42 NEW updates a month or 35 cents per new update.
So, there is no rip-off. They are charging less per new update.
On the cd part, you didn't even start to understand that part. I was not comparing having to buy a cd that was remastered. I was showing that it is NOT unusual for remasters to be sold as NEW. The DSotM remaster is identical to the others before it, same songs, no bonus songs, no bonus DVD clips of the band, yet they legally sell it at the same price as brand new never before released cds.
See what I mean? My first problem was what you have now said was a copy and paste error, so you can understand why I questioned that part. My second problem is why you have a problem with a site doing what the majority of members wanted and still giving you new updates, averaging more than 1 per day, for a bargain price. Let me add, 100% exclusive updates that they have to shoot themselves.
And don't look at it as so much a problem as it was me saying what more do you expect from them? You can see the price per new update above with the new price factored in. There is no false advertising and no rip-off.
I guess you don't think I understand because I don't agree with you? I understand completely. See the site 1byday, they are releasing remasters, or as they call them, "reloaded" sets as new updates. You can even look at their tour and see some of those. So, I'm quite aware of the practice and have been on sites that do it.
The first thing I would say is NA's tour nor join page says 13 updates per day. As a matter of fact, it only promises, "Regular updates" no exact number. So, I don't see why you are saying false advertising.
The second thing, a remaster is technically new. I don't really agree with it, but just go look on a site that sells CDs. Pink Floyd's Darkside of the Moon has been re-released and remastered, I believe 5 official times, just on cd. Same songs, same length, same order of songs and each one costs $12. Nothing new except better sound, just like the NA remasters have better video resolution and bitrates.
Third, I don't understand why you consider NA a premium level site. I'll use 1byday again, $35 a month, NA is $15 a month. To make a far-reaching comparison, that is like buying a tank of regular unleaded gas and expecting super unleaded performance.
On a side note for reference, very few sites can guarantee what they are going to do in the future days, weeks, months. Give Me Pink was easily one of the best premium sites on the internet, 1920 BR DVD quality videos, three different types of picture zips to download for each set, then one day a few months ago, they just quit updating and disappeared completely.
Going by NA's tour pages as long as they are updating, that very vague, "Regular updates" can't really be challenged or counted on.
Last, in your review, I had left a comment to another member Monahan and am interested in why your review is reviewed as you being a constant member over the last 3 or more months on NA, but in your cons you question a DL Limit since you hadn't been a member in about 6 months. You're throwing some pretty hard words out there about NA, false advertising, saying their DL limit is annoying, even though they haven't had a DL limit since October 2007.
I understood what you meant. The thing is, it is becoming fairly normal for sites to remaster and re-release old sets as new updates. I know of at least 3 major sites that are doing it. It goes into the problem I've talked about with those sites. Some members, especially with larger monitors and high end computers are complaining about the old videos. So, the sites can either let that old content die off, even though I think we all know that the older content on most sites these days is much better than the newer content or they can re-release the remasters. Similar to buying cds, when I first bought cds, I bought most of the Pink Floyd cds. A few years later, they released new remastered versions of those discs and by now, they seem to be up to 3rd or 4th remastering.
The main point that I was making is that they lowered their price nearly in half with the TBP discount from $24.95 to $14.95, they are still releasing new content, so I don't see how one can complain about the few remasters they release. I could understand if they didn't continue to release new content or if they were just recycling the content. I can understand why someone would get bored with their content though.
It wasn't so much that I disagreed with the score as it was that I noticed a few things that are odd.
Naughty America made a big move in Fall 2007, they merged their tier 1 sites with tier 2 sites and removed the DL limit. My review of the site in October 2007 talks about no download limit, since it had been a big deal up until then and had stopped me from joining. So, at least by October 2007, the DL limit was removed.
Now, look at the top where it says "how long have you been a member" the review says, "More than 3 months". In the review, the reviewer says, "I THINK there is a daily download limit? There was about 6 months ago when I was last a member". So, which is it? Reviewer is a current member for the last 3 months or hasn't been a member in 6 months?
October 2007 would be 18 months ago and there was no DL limit then either. DL limit is right up there with DRM when it comes to making or breaking a site. I just found the inconsistencies to make the review a little questionable.
On the part about download limits, I also think there was a download limit at one time, but I was just on NA last week and there is no download limit now.
Also, I noticed that you liked the $24.95 price, look up at the TBP price you get if you join NA from the TBP link. You can now get a month for $14.95. TBP made that deal just a month or two ago.
I don't really agree with remastering of old sets as being a dupe. Most people won't even fool with downloading old videos that are poor quality and split into parts, instead of full scenes in one file. Once it is converted to a higher quality and pieced together into a full scene, then it becomes all but new to the vast majority of members. A dupe is better represented by the sites that remove old sets, don't improve them, then re-release them as new. For example, say you have scene "1982.mpg" and it is in 7 parts and is only 320 high end with 400 bitrate. If they remaster it to 720 high with 2000 bitrate and the whole thing is in one part, well that isn't technically the same as the set they removed.
Also touched on a few parts in your review, mainly on the price and daily limit.
I checked out the review you posted on the previous version of this site, thanks for the tip of it switching to this new name. I had cheated on TBP a little and read Rabbit's Review of it, it looks like they didn't carry all of the content over from the original version that you reviewed. Rabbit has the numbers as 19 pic sets, 11 videos, review date was May 2008, but Rabbit has the site listed as updating twice per week. That makes me skeptical since I'm wondering if they are just releasing the content they removed from the original version of the site as new content. Oh and the genre at Rabbit's is listed as "Fetish". So I guess it is going to be mostly these strange settings and sets that the previews show.
I think that one listed update that has her in the Blue Nike bikini is the one thing pulling me back ha ha. What a stomach and curves in that one! I just noticed that it says "65 updates and counting" I didn't understand the whole reason though for only 30 photos per update that Rabbit lists, that is a terribly small set of pictures. Thanks for the info on the original version.
I'm still debating whether to try it. I'm trying to cover a few sites that I have never tried before and at least, I know Susana is on this one! I don't want to get too risky in my search for sites I haven't joined.
Hey GCode, yeah those samples worried me. Susana reminds me of a woman who would have made a great actress in movies. That could be an idea for a thread that could be useful, have the members list their best 10 models, that way everyone could maybe find at least one or two they hadn't seen before. If you are interested in Susana's content, Twistys has a lot, including a video of her in a gym, stripping her workout clothes off that is really good. Teen Dreams has a nice collection of her work too, 1byday also has a good collection of her. She fits the mold of the type of models I usually prefer, just like Eve Angel does, beyond a teen, not quite a mature. There is a whole group of those models that I collect.
Hey Panther, I used to love Action Girls because every woman on there seemed to be in perfect shape, I had forgotten all about that site. Susana seems to enjoy the dress-up, heavy dramatic scenes. The best sets I have of her came from a site that is still up, but haven't updated in over a year called The Next Girl. The sets she has there were taking outside, looks like some kind of festival and the photographer gets some great shots of her coming from under the trees, completely nude and she seems very playful in these. She even has a hat on in one set and is eating ice cream. I wish that site had kept going, they also have some really good sets of Eve Angel and one of the best masturbation videos of Anetta Keys that I've seen. Looks completely natural, cuts in on her masturbating, no tease, and I've never seen her act that turned on in a video.
Susana just doesn't seem to have a lot of masturbation videos. I was checking my hard drive and would say less than half of the videos I have of her are masturbation. Though I will say the video Twistys has where she is in workout attire and rolling around in a gym is very hot, no masturbation, but she is very erotic in it.
Are you kidding me? The beautiful hardbody of Susana Spears being turned into an 80 year old woman, ala Mama's Family? Has anyone been a member here before? I really am a huge fan of Susana, love the 8 pack abs set with the Nike bikini on, but there seems to be as many overly dramatic sets as nice, nude, look at her beautiful body sets. I had heard about this site last year sometime from a friend and a lover of Susana's modeling. Recession is easing, hopefully, and I thought I would check it out.
I'm not too worried about the price that looks way too high, as long as they have some great nude sets of Susana that are exclusive, but some of the samples made me cry. Why would you cover her body in bandages? No, not bondage, that would be hot with Susana, I'm talking hospital bandages. And yeah, the Mama's Family Susana set supposed to be Susana when she gets older is just not very appealing. I don't understand why someone can't just make a nice basic site with Susana as the star, beautiful natural boobs, great curvy butt, one of the best back arches this side of Nautica Thorn. Anybody tried it?
I joined this site a few days ago, trying to broaden my site memberships and try some new ones while I have some extra change on me.
Lets start with the good, cute, exotic, beautiful young women. Look to be a lot of Brazilian ladies here. Impressive quality on this site, 1920 high end video, 6000 bitrate, very nice to look at the very cute exotic Brazilian ladies.
Now the problems, it comes with 50+ solo sites, I don't recognize any of these models, which I'm saying is a good thing, but no picture zips! How can a site that has true HD, Blue-Ray quality HD, not have freaking zips for the photos? The quality of the pictures isn't very high either 1280 high end. I don't know if they want to just be known as a video site and are just throwing the pictures in for good measure, but those zips sure would be nice. The girls range from cute to beautiful to plain to well, not so good-looking.
Now for the headache. I understand that this site is pulling off a huge amount of high quality updates, advertises 150 updates per month and that is Blue Ray 1920 high end updates. But as you can see below, that is their pricing chart.
I took the 5 days for $25 option. Monthly, nearly $50! I wouldn't say a thing if it wasn't for the fact that they offer a YEAR subscription for $85! They are either severely discounting themselves and their worth or they're getting rich off of dumbasses like me!
Why not throw a $20 for one month price on it? If the quality is as good as the ones I've seen, and the updates keep coming and they keep finding these cute models, then after a month, I would go for the $85 per year deal, but who knows? Either way, I wasn't really ready to review it and I doubt I will be even after my 5 days is up. It isn't giving me enough time to really check out the content and update schedule. Still, worth checking out if you are looking for some seriously high quality porn with cute girls. By the way, my rating was going to be an 80 based on the confusing pricing system, the navigation isn't very good and things can get very confusing when you have 50 sites to go through. I will say the sky is the limit when it comes to potential, but that price is going to have to be lower to get new members to try it out. Price plans below.
G18 discounted monthly $48.18
G18 discounted 50 days $55.45
G18 One Full Year $85.45
G18 weekend break - 2 days $11.26
G18 5 days break $25.00
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- My original review expired yesterday, so here is a newly updated review to reflect the changes in Teen Dreams and it received a boost in the score from my 2007 review. One of the internet's biggest sites around.
- New servers deliver lightning fast downloads to me, US based as are the servers, regularly hits 100% of my max DL speed when using DownThemAll with Firefox
- The content over the last few years sees a raise in quality, pics top out in the 2500ish range and come zipped.
- Viv Thomas "bonus" content is equal to full access to the Viv Thomas video site and photo site as well. BL explains.
- Video quality is above average, 640-720 high end, 2000+ bitrates on last two years videos.
- Site forum is not only active, but has one of the funnest, most helpful and most knowledgeable groups of porn fans on it, outside of PU of course! Customer service is very responsive.
- Less than $20 price is icing on the cake
- Six updates per day, five days per week
Cons:
- Navigation has improved, but still could be hard for some to get used to. I've noticed that now when you click on a letter in the model list, the models come up alphabetically. Used to this wasn't the case, so this isn't quite the con it once was.
- Still suffers from alias problems when naming models. Sandra Shine is listed as Judith for example. I just pick a letter or two at a time and scan through them for recognizable faces.
- Videos named the same!
Bottom Line:
I have been impressed with the forward progress this site has made. Back when it seemed to be stalling in its progress, they picked up the Viv Thomas bonus content.
The Viv picture sets are not in zips, but you can download them all with DownThemAll add-on with Firefox. Also, the videos on Viv's bonus content are not as high quality as the ones you get from Viv's official video site, but they are 640 high end 750-1000 bitrate and look plenty good enough considering those come from a site that is $30 a month! His videos adds a lot of depth to this site as well. Viv has always been one of my favorites of Euro videos, hardcore, solo, girl/girl, those are all here for you to download and it comes free with Teen Dreams.
One thing I forgot to mention in the pros is the use of "guest models". This is an interesting feature that adds 25 pictures per set from other sites and lets you get a sampling of those site's content, quality and maybe even discover a new model or two.
The biggest complaint that I remember members having about TD is the speed of downloads. I've tried various download managers with the site and find that some won't work, Free Download Manager doesn't seem to work with the site, but try DownThemAll add-on for Firefox. Change the filter to download only movie and archive files, right click the page, click down them all and it will load up the videos and zip/rar files and do the work for you. Really pushes my speed limit as well, I had never seen my speed top 1,200 kb/s but it has here, 1,296 kb/s. I do limit my number of connections to 2 though.
Despite the old issues with finding models you are looking for, the site's navigation once you find the said model is really easy to work with. All the picture sets come up for the model and the movies as well, with DownThemAll, you can skip even having to click on each set to download.
Picture size is coming in at just under 2500 high end. Movies at 640-720 high end with 2000 bitrates. Pretty impressive numbers for a site that updates 30 times per week!
I want to compare it to Twistys, but I think there are a few notable differences. Like another site, Nubiles, Teen Dreams does shoot plenty of never before seen models, giving it more of an amateur feel than Twistys has. That is probably a major pro for some of you, but you all know me, I like my major glam models that I'm used to!
There is really no way for me to guess what the percentage of exclusive and non-exclusive content there is. For me, Twisty's Treat edges Teen Dreams out here. Though there is exclusive content on here, especially in the solo videos. Love the Eve Angel in the bathroom video, staring at herself in the mirror and brushing her hair obviously turns her on as much as it does me since she ends up with one foot on the sink and masturbating.
The amount of content can be overwhelming. I usually stay a member for 3 months at a time, then come back the next year. I like the changes and definitely recommend it!
I joined that Party Hardcore site back a few years ago. It was 34 Euros at the time, so it ended up being over $41. I still will pay the higher prices, 1byday for $35 for example, but most that I join are under $25.
I have been told I have had mine shared with others by Teen Dreams and Club Sandy. Sadly, most sites start out like this, "We have suspended your account for sharing your login info with others."
So they automatically accuse you. Both of those sites, at the time I was supposedly hacked, had non-secure signups, not your payment information, but the username and password you sign up for. Similar to most sites on the internet, if you put information across a non-secure connection, there is a chance someone is going to be able to get it. To make matters worse, don't we all know those who do steal/hack others porn login are just sitting there on those sites with non-secure signups waiting to steal the login and password?
I remember years ago when yahoo had non-secure sign-in and sign-up, seemed like daily, I would have emails missing, even had one that left me a note to say hi. As of right now, I have updated AV, run super anti-spyware and malware byte's anti-malware daily, two-way firewall, and also use an external firewall that blocks even me from using my PC at times ha ha.
I just can't see how a computer with that much protection is more prone to being hacked than a simple non-secure signup page is.
I still have some of the content from this site and it seems that most of it, he jerks himself, which is kind of strange since he is also holding the camera. Back before I joined it, I checked out Tiave dot com and did a search for the site name. They had 10+ pages of samples from it, if you wanted to check out the content that way.
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