Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
- One of the biggest reality American networks on the internet.
- Some really impressive add-on site offers to members, including some sites with full access for as cheap as $1.25 for two days unlimited access.
- New sites are starting to takeover the network and compliment the sites that are no longer updating, will explain in BL.
- Good download speeds, has me in the 95% max range of my max speed.
- Navigation for a network is surprisingly good, site has went through a change or two in navigation and now seems to be settled into an easy to use, minimal mouse click format, explain more in BL.
- Newer videos are 1280x720, which at this point, I prefer since the 1920x1080 videos eat up my hard drives.
- Billing system is not well-known, but I have had two different problems and received a reply in less than 24 hours to both.
- All scenes have at least a screencap zip download of screen capture "pictures" and most have a separate photo download of more posed pictures of the model.
Cons:
- As much as I have taken advantage of their upsells to other sites, it could be a con for some.
- Seach design can be frustrating since some of the search results will be for one of the sites you have to subscribe separately to.
- Coding in page has problems with Firefox downloading, had to switch to Chrome and it works fine with Chrome.
Bottom Line:
As the other American reality sites have started to slip, Bang Bros, to me has improved. Besides having a newly designed site with much improved navigation, they are now offering some really good deals on upsells. With the price to Bang Bros itself dropping to just $14.95 a month, it does leave you some spending room to add a few of those upsells too.
I admit, I was worried about adding upsell sites because the biller wasn't that well known. All worries were pushed aside when I had a billing problem, sent them an email and in less than 2 hours, they replied and fixed the problem. To my knowledge, they are the only one of the major American networks that can say they have responsive customer service. It made me feel more comfortable with adding upsells.
I won't name the site, but it is an old solo site that has been reviewed here several times by others, that the model retired from. It has over 200 scenes. One day when I signed in, I had a popup that said they wanted to give me a gift as a loyal customer and gave me full access to the solo site for $1.25 for 2 days. They also have a Spanish network that looks really good for $24.95 more. They have the Super Pack which has 4 sites of theirs that used to be stream only, but are now allowing downloads, you can get that whole pack for $24.95 too. They add several sites here and there that are $9.95 to add.
What made me raise the score though was they are adding new sites to their Bang Bros package too. They aren't updating as much as they used to, but they do add, on average, 3 new updates a day. Bang Bros has seemingly always tried to follow the trends in niches in porn and you can see it in their newer sites. It's nice seeing a site keeping their roots strong, while willing to take some chances too.
I'm going to review one of the newer sites separately because I enjoy it so much. I think Bang Bros and Brazzers have nudged Reality Kings and Naughty America out of the top networks because they keep improving.
There are subjective cons that I will go into since these don't bother me too much, but I know they do others. Most of the models are American. There are plenty of natural models on the sites, but you do get a lot of implants and probably even more tattoos. Another is that the guys on the sites can be annoying. I do think they are annoying sometimes, but I also think they're pretty funny usually. Even if in a goofy way.
To me, they do what nearly all networks are trying these days and do it the best. They try to create scenes that look believable with the help of a little imagination or even fantasy. Their newer sites, Latina Rampage, Porn Star Spa, Brown Bunnies, Magical Feet all have a niche covered in them, some even cover multiple niches. Though I should mention Magical Feet hasn't been updated in a few months so it may be going to archive status too.
On sheer numbers, this is what I figured up.
Total sites just in Bang Bros membership: 42
Total scenes available: 5221 as of 5/1/2012
It seems like each time I sign in they have a new site, a few of the very newest ones, Chongas, an excellent Latina site and Dorm Invasion, a run on the "what girls do for fun in their dorms".
Video quality over the last 2 years has a high option at 1280x720 in mp4 format. I prefer these to the other networks high quality ones just because of filesize. The average high quality scene on Bangbros will run between 750 MB to 1 GB, whereas the other networks are posting videos in excess of 2 GB each.
The old "low clickage" navigation rant of mine from the past is very good on the new format of Bang Bros. You can download the video, photos and screencaps with just 5 clicks with no page loads. Unlike a lot of sites where you have to click photos, go to photo page and click, click to go back, click to movie page, click to download preferred format, click to go back to the scene, click screencaps, click to download. Yes it annoys me that much! Bang Bros newest format has all the download options just two clicks away. I think I broke a dozen mice over the years going through this click, click, click process.
Not only are the new sites updating, but some of the old favorites that have been around since the beginning of this network are still updating as well. I like the blend of the old formula with new sites trying to bring in new twists.
I just keep letting my membership recur, being sure to cancel whatever addons I have added and plan to add more of those upsell addons in the future. My only real complaint is that Firefox doesn't recognize something in the coding so you can't click "Do this automatically" in Firefox's download dialog box. Chrome does it handle it well without problems as does IE so that's not too frustrating.
I don't like comparing them and Brazzers or any of these sites, but just like I now really enjoy Brazzers, I also feel like Bang Bros has made the strong similar improvements Brazzers has. I recommend it very highly.
I had all but forgotten about this site. I joined it years ago just for the Veronika Zemanova sets they had. It is a shame they are disappearing, they had some of the best built and in shape models in the porn world on their site. Never understood why, but I always liked the camo with big guns sets, maybe it was the poses those style of sets required.
I'm not for sure how long Tera fans can expect to keep getting new updates, but the site has updated monthly so far this year. If you'll notice on the TBP review, it had stopped updating in March of 2011. I don't know if there is a model who has aged more gracefully than Tera and here's hoping there are more updates to come and not just some stuff they had stashed away.
Also if interested, it is a much better deal to join through Fame Digital since you get this site plus 25 others, where as if you join through Tera's site you only get 16 other sites.
I too like some older porn, just not too old, but the 90s, especially late 90s that Vivid did so well. The channel is worth the price easily. I would even say the Vivid channel on VB is as good or better than the Vivid website. Also note that the price of it should be prorated. I think it's $15 if you add it on the first day of your VB membership, but if you wait until say the 15th day of your membership to VB to add Vivid, it should only be $7.50.
When you say an entire film do you mean an entire scene or entire DVD? I have complained about them not having a full DVD download link, but I don't think they ever will. Sadly, there was a DVD site, American Vice, that did allow full DVD downloads, but they disappeared a year or so ago.
This is all starting to be confusing after seeing Khan's post about them getting a higher price. Maybe it has something to do with my browser having been to Met-Art through a promo email a few days ago? The original link you posted was also giving me the $19.95 price. Ever since I joined Met-Art, in 2010 I think, for a full year subscription, they've sent me some really good deals.
This is one of those learn from my mistake posts. Bang Bros are now offering more than 10 different addon packs, but you can only add them for the special prices once you're inside the members area of Bang Bros. Their biller, while not real well known, has never given me a problem and the biller itself replies to any problems with 24 hours from my experience. I had signed up for Bang Bros then added the Super Pack. When I went to cancel, I canceled "Bang Bros" from the support page. That didn't fully work. It canceled the Super Pack, but not the Bang Bros membership. After I went back and looked, after an email to their biller, there was a second membership listed on my account, which was Bang Bros itself. I hadn't canceled it. They could do better with this by listing the Super Pack as Super Pack and not Bang Bros, but I could have clicked the drop down box to see two accounts too.
So if you add anything besides Bang Bros, be sure when canceling to use the drop down menu to see the other accounts so you can cancel them too. In a way, I felt like this is misleading, but in another way, I can see how maybe someone would just want to cancel the addons, but keep Bang Bros, so it's iffy as to how you take this practice.
Can't say I haven't had one or a couple before, but I don't have one now or intend on getting one in the future. I do collect knives and swords though, mostly from the Far Eastern cultures. As for defense, I keep a basket with baseballs in it and dare anyone to try and dodge them!
I really would recommend this one, ATK Petites, the most for a new member to the ATK sites. ATK Exotics and ATK Hairy are very niche dominated. That leaves Petites, Premium and Galleria. Premium used to be their most balanced site since they had models from all niches. Now, Petites does that, including having some of Premium's content and having its own exclusive content. Galleria is the biggest of the sites and the oldest. I think they have over 2,500 models, but Petites has some of its content too. One exception that I think you like is Tanner Mayes. I don't remember if Petites had her or not, but Galleria has 30 photo sets and 6 videos of her, if she would be a deal breaker for you, then Galleria might be the better choice, but if not, then Petites will give you the broadest view of the ATK sites. One good thing, once you've been a member of any of their sites you start getting the $19.95 promo emails.
On all the ATK sites they have a DVD link in the navigation menu. This takes you to a DVD store that shows up in my Firefox tab as "Kick Ass DVDs" These DVDs can be bought for $29.99 and also have a VOD option. I found a few of the DVDs that had stars on them that are also on ATK Petites and can say with pretty high confidence that the scenes on the site with a regular membership are not the ones on these DVDs. One model that I checked both DVDs and the site for is the little Latin/Asian Kat since she has content on their DVDs and on the site, the videos in the site membership of Kat are not the scenes they have of her from the DVDs.
The best way to explain the models on the ATK sites is to say it's a lot like FTV's models. You will find some mainstream stars (in 2012), but the content will be older, from the earlier part of their careers. There are some U.S. stars like Jenaveve Jolie (very early in her career), Kat that I mentioned earlier, Amia Miley/Moretti, Jana Jordan, Jayme Langford are some examples that come right to my mind since I downloaded those and some have a ton of content. Both Jayme and Jana have over 100 combined photo/video sets each.
While looking through the DVDs, I just happened to have a banner ad for kickass (dot) com. And it took me to a Kickass Pictures site that looks similar to Wicked Pictures. It looks like they have around 1,600 scenes from the Kickass studio on it and the preview does let you see everything they have so you could check that out. Doing a PU search it is listed as Kick Ass Pass on here. Looks like a good site from what I can see, but also looks like a once $15 discounted price was changed to $30 price.
Last, most of the models are not going to be known by name. For every Jana Jordan there's a dozen unknowns. Hope that helps or at least doesn't confuse lol
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Another site in the ATK line of sites, do not take the score as the deadset score. There will be an add +5 or -5 at the end of bottom line.
- As with the other ATK sites there is a lot of content, newer videos are HD, pictures are still the big draw here and are zipped, will explain sizes in BL.
- Really good download speeds, actually reached speeds I hadn't reached before.
- While there is a theme here, "petite" most models in the 18-24 range fit the petite group, so there are a lot of models.
- Going to go out on a limb and will further in BL when I say this site is like joining a best of ATK, since you get content from all their sites except Archives, as long as the model is petite.
- Navigation is pretty basic and easy as long as it's working.
- I couldn't tell you the update schedule since it seems to vary, but there does seem to be daily multiple updates, will further in BL.
Cons:
- To me there are two big cons with this site, one will be completely subjective, the other will be more based on your experience with these sites. They are:
#1 Programming nightmare, missing thumbnails by the dozen for the first 3 weeks of my membership. I will give them credit because it looks like they fixed it. There are still other problems, I've seen videos with parse link errors, no clue what that is, just know it means I can't download the video. I have videos that are corrupted and had a few zips that were corrupted too.
#2 Exclusivity. As a collector, exclusivity is one of the most important things to me. There is a high percentage of models here who have no content exclusive to this site. It does however come from one of the ATK sites. That's why this is subjective based on your experience. I joined ATK Exotics in December/January, ATK Premium in January/February, ATK Galleria in February/March and ATK Petites in March/April. I have a lot of Petites content already.
Bottom Line:
I'll jump right in where the cons left off since I ran out of characters.
Though I numbered it as #2 con, my biggest con was the amount of overlapping content here on ATK Petites. If I hadn't been to the other ATK sites, I would probably be rating this site in the 90s, but I have, estimating, 60% of the content Petites has that I would want from my memberships to the other ATK sites. This is straightforward enough by them in the videos where you will see ATK Premium watermarks on videos, ATK Galleria, ATK Exotics, etc...
It's not straightforward when I join though. The preview lets me see all the models and # of photos, # of photosets, # of videos. It doesn't tell me that I may already have 50-100% of those from their other sites. I have complained in the past about DDF doing this, so it's only fair that I stay consistent and complain here as well.
It's not to say this site is a ripoff or isn't good. As it is, I give it an 85 because there is a good amount of exclusive content here. The score would have been a little lower if the programming problems hadn't at least shown some improvement, which they did a few days after I posted the comment about the missing thumbnails.
Here is a very small example of how exclusive the content is to this site. From March 25th-March 28th, there have been this many updates.
32 photo sets
16 videos
Those are staggering numbers. That's 48 combined videos and picture sets in 4 days, or 12 per day.
8 of those sets are exclusive to this site, that's pictures and videos. So, 8 of 48 are exclusive to this site. That's roughly 16% exclusive. Having had memberships to 3 of their other sites, it means I have most of this content.
The update schedule is impossible to list because it changes daily, one day they had 12 photosets, another day they had 5 photosets and 6 videos.
Okay, enough bitching. ATK sites are fun sites. You're not going to find much if any airbrushing in their photos, you're going to see newer models and you'll also find old sets of current hardcore stars doing innocent photosets as a newcomers. I do get annoyed by the hairy sets and the even worse, "scary hairy" as they have them tagged, but overall, the girls range from cute to very pretty. It's not close to glam. Nearly all sets start in very normal clothes from jeans, shorts, skirts with some lingerie mixed in.
The newer picture sets have 3 zip sizes, largest is 2000x3000 resolution and vice versa. Petites can be a little confusing here since some of the newer sets from their other sites are not as high resolution, but most of the newer sets are the above number. They do have a custom zip feature that works when I have tried it.
This is an in-between one. The videos are very hit/miss. Most of the girl/girl videos aren't very good. The solo videos are the best ones on the site and usually these are worth a download. The boy/girl videos are borderline poor. I'm not talking about technical quality either. They are poor in the sense that you don't get a believable feeling from the scenes, it's very clinical even. I had the same feeling about Nubiles boy/girl videos too so ATK shouldn't take it too personally. I do get the feeling that a lot of these girls are not comfortable on video, just like I get on Nubiles videos, if they're not comfortable, I would rather see more photosets of them because the photos are really good.
Technical quality on the newer videos is good, at least a year, maybe two years of HD videos, but I really think if you're here for the videos, you're going to be disappointed.
This was my first time as a member on Petites or I would have known that most of the content comes from the other ATK sites. I do think the ATK sites have made big positive strides in their site design, navigation, search options and they continue to get tons of models.
My advice is if you prefer one of the niches like hairy, exotic, to try one of those if you're just starting out with these sites, but if you want a really good overview of all their niches, Petites would be a very good place to start. If you've been on their other sites in the last few months, I can't even recommend Petites because you're going to see a lot of content you have already seen.
As a new, non-biased towards genres, member, I would recommend this site as the one to join. It's like buying a greatest hits album by a band you're new to.
If you're new to the ATK sites or haven't been to them in the last year or two, add 5 to the score for a 90. If you are not new to the sites and have been on the other ATK sites recently, take 5 points off for an 80.
I noticed in my confirmation for subscription email that this was at the bottom, "As a special THANK YOU for joining, we want to give you something FREE! No catch, no strings, no additional charges whatsoever. 110% FREE for you to try." I didn't put the rest since it has a code in it and link. It's for a free account on ATK Movies. I thought I would give it a shot. Filled out the email info, created a username and password, never received the email it said I needed to click on a link from. I would guess from the wording that the link takes you to a screen where you can put in your free access code that came with the confirmation email. I've checked my inbox, my spam box, but have nothing about it.
The other problem is one that other members have mentioned, the site is glitchy. I would estimate at least 40 models cannot be clicked on. Their thumbnail picture is missing, as is the line under their name which you can usually alternately click on.
I'm posting this part because it works for me. Some of the models that weren't clickable have large collections, including one that has 20+ photo sets.
In Firefox, if the thumbnail is not there, you cannot click the model or get to her content.
In the newest version of Internet Explorer, the thumbnails are still missing on some, but you can click on them and get their content.
One last part, continuing on my previous comment, the exclusivity is being pushed. I had first noticed the ATK Exotics sets showing up on ATK Petites, I can tell you they also have some ATK Galleria sets and ATK Premium sets here on ATK Petites.
The current poll question piqued my interest in Wicked Pictures again since I keep putting a membership off because of the lack of a preview with a full model list. The new preview is actually worse than the old one. I'm under the assumption that these mobile sites are the same as the full sites just made to be viewed on a phone or tablet. When I went to Wicked Pictures Mobile they have a full model list. I only needed to go so far to see 11 scenes of April Flowers, who is easily one of my all-time top 5 stars.
So I will post this here for now in case anyone else is looking for a model list for Wicked Pictures full site. I can't guarantee it's the same, but the other mobile sites are the same as the full sites as far I know. Give me a week or two and I will get a review or comment up to tell whether this list on Wicked Pictures Mobile is the same as the Wicked Pictures website.
I'm kind of surprised that I picked this but poor preview. I have said I'm going to join Wicked Pictures for over a year now, but still haven't because of the lack of a full model list in their preview and now their price went up so they fell another few spots for me. I can see how much the poor preview hurts based on I would still join with the higher price if they let me see all the models they have. I also learned over the last year to watch for wording in previews, especially of solo sites, like "hundreds of photos" instead of "hundreds of photo sets".
I'll add another possible answer that I have been using, "No facts info on TBP". I always check TBP on sites I haven't joined before. I ran into two different issues with this one. One site that had removed a lot of their content in comparison to the numbers they had when TBP visited it. One site that had no TBP facts that ended up having no zips,and no video downloads.
I enjoyed a membership at this site more than I thought I would. Similar to how I also enjoy Kink's Live Ultimate Surrender matches. I know it would knock the price up, but I think they should have a fully live site with each of their niches being covered on it. I would probably look for the lifetime membership option!
One thing you may not know being from Canada. Folsom Street Fair is a very liberal setting, nudity is allowed. From what I know from living in California, nudity is legal in the state, even in public. It's the lewd acts while being nude that are illegal. San Francisco though is probably one of the most tolerant cities in the United States, I would only rate Los Angeles and Miami above it. Not at all knocking Kink for shooting at a commonly nude fair, but thought you might find that interesting. It's a fair that leans very heavily on BDSM themes and though a few kids have been seen at the fair, it is 18 and over admittance.
I've tried several of Kink's site recently and this one runs neck and neck with Ultimate Surrender as my favorite.
I was going to join based mostly on the inclusion of Eve Angel Official to get the 30-40 updates from it that I don't have, but before joining, I see this contradiction on the "sites" area in the preview.
At the top of the page, "NEW! We added a new website to the network pass in December 2011 - EVEANGEL OFFICIAL"
On down the page, it says, "(note: Eve Angel Official is not part of the DDFProd Network)"
I may be being overly cautious since the first one says "NEW" but it looks like if you're going to edit in the new addition of a site, you would take the time to remove the note on down the page that contradicts it. I'll never understand these sites that spend all the money they do in programming and leave something this contradictory and basic on a site.
Any current members that can tell me if Eve's site does come with DDF Network?
Try the "collections" buttons, it lets you see all the models. Pretty sure it even lets you see how many sets and how each set looks from there. Never understood why they listed it as collections.
It's inside the members area. Once you have joined Bang Bros, you will see the super package offer. They also have a DVD site that you can add, but I didn't fool with it.
I'm going to add here that I got Dancing Bear with the Bangbros Superpack and it does allow downloads.
I started with the oldest scenes since I wanted to make sure it wasn't just downloads on the newest scenes. All of the scenes I have tried so far allow downloads. The only problem I've had is that the wmv link is dead on all of them. You can still download the .mp4 small or .mp4 medium file for each though and the medium is a good DVD quality 640x480 on the oldest videos. You can also download the pictures and screenshots in zips. The superpack deal to me is the best way to go since you can add it to your bangbros subscription for $24.95, the price of Dancing Bear by itself. The superpack also includes My GF, College Rules and CFNM Show.
It does look like Dancing Bear, My GF and College Rules are all still updating too. I'm not for sure when they started allowing downloads, but I will add to Khan's post and say they do allow them now.
I couldn't believe it Denner, but Tera was married to the guy you're talking about. I think he uses the name Spyder or Spider in porn, but his name away from porn is Evan Seinfeld. He was in a New York hardcore punk band called Biohazard for years, not for sure if they still make music or not. I have never been able to stomach a scene with him and Tera, even though Tera is one of my all-time favorites. I think Tera met him when she almost became involved with rapper/singer Everlast. Check out Everlast's video, "I can't move" on youtube for a beautiful view of dressed Tera. One of her sexiest works I've seen and it's not even porn.
Hey PP, believe it or not, this was my first time joining Petites, so I was a bit thrown off by some of the numbers. I am even a little confused by their use of the word "featured" on so many sets as these look like exclusive sets, is that how you see those? The only negative I see from it would be if someone had been on Exotics and Galleria, then joined Petites based on the preview which doesn't show all the sets, but has the number "42 sets" "X amount of photos". Then once inside, they realize they already have half of the sets. I do wonder though if they are the exact same sets since a couple I downloaded were same outfit, same setting, same model, but the file size was a little bigger. One was 85.1 MB for the high quality on Petites, the one that looks identical from Exotics was 79.9 MB. Other than that, I like the site better overall than Galleria. One other thing, have you gotten some video files from the ATK sites that are not complete? I have noticed a few are showing up on the site as HD with a total size of 1.2 MB. I thought it was typo, but when I downloaded it, it was in fact 1.2 MB or about 6 seconds.
I've been on an ATK tour lately and put Petites last since, I admit, I was waiting on a promo email, but didn't get one. So I joined it anyway and want to point something out that the other reviewers have, but I don't know if I wasn't paying attention or what.
There is content on here from the other ATK sites. It's definitely not all of it though. There is a good amount of exclusive sets here, but I was downloading one model and noticed 5 photo sets I already had from ATK Exotics. I could be a little off on this since I know some sites will release separate sets in the same outfit, same setting, but there's one that really stood out to me since it was a favorite from ATK Exotics and it looked to be the exact same set.
Not really disappointed since these sites are at least doing everything else right. I just hope ATK isn't going to become like DDF and say because they have a network now, anything on their sites can be shared and still be called exclusive. On a positive note, it looks like most of the shared sets were in the earlier months of the site's life so maybe they were just trying to flesh the site out in its early stages. Still worth mentioning though. Really good picture sets as always with ATK.
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