Had problems with them too, they have the far right side cross-sale for Porn Access, that's very easy to miss. They also send me multiple promos of the same offer, sometimes 3 in a day. I enjoyed the network overall, but won't likely go back to it. Sadly, I noticed DDF has started using this same location for their cross-sale.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
- Very high quality, niche heavy site.
- High percentage of pretty models.
- Lots of download options (on newer scenes), newer videos go up to 1280x720 resolution. Newer photo sets top out at 1600 high end and come zipped.
- Navigation is a little harder than it should be at first. Once you figure it out, it's very easy.
- Could be a con, setting is the same in every scene. Though the room is actually quite pretty and easy on the eyes with its colors.
- Could also be a con. Every scene is of a firm, young woman being massaged then sex. Could be a con for those who bore easily.
Cons:
- I was a little frustrated with the video options. There are some videos with multiple quality options, others with just one, including some newer ones that only have the "ultra HD" option which is usually near 1 GB in size. Also have scenes that are showing unusual resolutions. Will further in BL.
- Nearly every model is slim. I put this because I know there are others who at least like some variety in model shape and size.
- Site is pretty small since "bonus" sites only allowed me to stream.
- Biggest con for me is that the site/scenes lacks much personality. In a one month membership, I did download 27 models, but according to their folder stats, all were done on 3 separate days and what is "hard" about it?
Bottom Line:
I'm approaching this review similar to how I did Teen Mega World. Outside of a few exceptions, nearly all the models here are slim. I know it's probably implied by the 18 in the name of the site, but then again, there's not a lot of "hard" sex here so you get my point. It looks like from the set ratings the more built models are very popular with members. So it surprises me they don't try to get more built models in.
I don't have too much of a problem with formulaic, but the content here is very formulaic, to the point of most of the scenes being predictable right down to the point of being able to guess (within a few minutes) when the massage stops and the sex starts. As with any site with young models, this leads to the model needing to elevate the scene which as we know can be a problem. Some seem really bored. I don't like porn where the male becomes a major part of the dialogue, but neither the male or female do much talking. Not for sure if they're going for a voyeur feel for the viewer, which is possible since the newer scenes have added a "shower" video of each model washing off after the scene. I think it would be even better if they focused on the stripping of the model instead of trying to make the model look nervous and cautious. That's the idea, maybe a scene or two of the model seducing the masseuse into doing more than a massage? Seems like the storylines with this niche are nearly unlimited, woman mad at boyfriend/husband goes to get massage and ends up cheating, seduction, etc...
For some, I would think the biggest complaint is that there isn't anything here that made me think "That's really hard sex". Maybe I should stay away from the Kink sites, but on a 10 scale, I would rate the hardness of these scenes at 5 or below.
The good parts, the models are all very pretty. They are mostly firm and end up oiled, which is always a good thing. I shouldn't say there are only slim models, since I did find 27 attractive enough to download and keep, but the curvier models really do stand out here like Isis Taylor.
I didn't notice the video quality differences until after my membership ran out. The majority of these scenes I have are 1000x564 resolution. Not that I mind that since I prefer 1280x720 max, for hard drive space, but I don't remember if that odd resolution is listed as the highest option. The options can be confusing. Some of the newer videos only have a ultra high video option. For those looking to save hard drive space or who have a slow internet connection those may be a pain to download.
The picture sets seem to follow suit in being confusing. The 1024 zips contain pictures that top out at 1500 long end.
There is one other complaint that I didn't consider a con since it's one that may not bother others and normally doesn't me. This site only updates once per week. They have quite a bit of older scenes that are 640x380 and that's the top resolution available. I understand this type of porn is probably expensive to make, but as others have mentioned Massage Creep does it while offering a full network of other sites to go with it. I also think Brazzers has gotten in on the massage scenes plus they have an entire network too. Why not remaster those older scenes, maybe 1-2 a week to help beef up the "one" update per week? And like a lot of sites, it seems some of the best scenes are only available in the lowest quality.
I did join the site through a promo or probably wouldn't have taken a chance on it. At the current price, I don't see myself returning to it. The varying score applies here too. If you like slim models, massage, add 5 points to the score. If not, subtract 5 points since I was okay with it and kind of in the middle. I like the oily massages.
Overall though, I wasn't that impressed with the content because of the scene to scene sameness which goes beyond formulaic. Most of the models look similar too. So beyond, talk, act apprehensive, fall to the seduction of the massage, have sex, you also get models who are similar build. In a way it reminds me of Amateur Allure where you had the feeling you were watching a guy live out his fantasies by posing as a porn site instead of creating porn people would want to see.
I still would recommend it for one month since the content is exclusive. I just wouldn't have high expectations unless you do prefer slimmer models. This number puts things in perspective. When I was on the site there was 226 models (June 2012). I have 27 model folders from it, so I only downloaded around 12% of the models. I would give more information on the bonus sites, but I only saw stream options for those and didn't fool with them.
Like Jay's comment, Fame Digital and their other networks, use the "it's way over there on the right pre-checked cross-sale". Ran into a second problem when joining since I joined Sweet Sinner on the same day. My Fame Digital account wouldn't login. I clicked to reset the password. Then realized both networks use the same cancellation process which includes inputting your username and password. Well, I used the same username and password to join both. I guess the system didn't pick it up when created or it would have said username already in use. Instead, they sent me a new username and password with 3 numbers added to the front of the original username and 3 added to the password.
Also found the cancellation process a bit frustrating since it says, "If you do not receive a cancellation email, your cancellation might not be complete." I didn't even need to go look in my email to know I didn't receive it. But I did go look and sure enough, no cancellation email for either. Went back and did the cancellation process again, my account was still showing up, cancelled again, no cancellation email. Somewhere in here, I was getting pissed off. I ended up waiting for a few days since I remembered the delay before their system noticed the duplicate username. Sure enough, 2 days later, I received the cancellation confirmation email.
I thought this was worth mentioning since the site is only $9.95 the first month, $29.95 for the second month. If you were wait until the last minute to cancel, it's very possible that they could charge you for the recur and say their system hadn't processed your cancellation request. Really good network overall, but that out of place cross-sale combined with the slow cancellation request process does at least make me feel like others should be warned. That's what that out of the way cross-sale does to your credibility.
I would agree with most of the recent reviews on Sweet Sinner and the sites you get with it, but I guess I didn't skim the reviews enough to see the lack of zips on photo sets. I then ran into the same problem on some of the Fame Digital sites, owned by the same company. I wouldn't say I joined either of these networks for pictures, but there were several scenes I would have liked to had pictures from. I probably wouldn't have thought anything of it if they didn't include a photos link. Once you let me see them, you have to give me the zip option or you're kicking my OCDC. Some of the photo sets look like real photo sets and not just screenshots. Why go through the trouble of taking these pictures but making them unavailable as zips?
Either way, the network, similar to Fame Digital is worth the low price for video collectors, but if things like no zips annoy you, you might want to act like that "pictures" link isn't there.
The model index works like this.
Pornstars - Has alphabetical listing, newest added
Once you click on a certain model, it will list all the Lethal Hardcore scenes of the model. On the same page, just below the Lethal Hardcore listing it has the scenes the model has on their network sites. So it does have all their scenes listed in one place and from everything I've seen all those network sites come with the membership. One model only had one listed under Lethal Hardcore, but had 14 more on their network sites. I downloaded all 15 without any additional charges.
The Hot Bods and Tail Pipe was a series I joined for as well. Though they don't have them listed in order, it looks like they have volumes 1-30 in the DVDs. The search system they have is very good once you get used to it since you can search directly for a series by name.
From what it looks like to me they have some of the Lethal Hardcore DVDs on HDVids, which is also included in the membership. It has 6,500 more DVDs than the actual Lethal Hardcore site has. Maybe the 540 on the Lethal Hardcore site are exclusive? It is confusing nonetheless, but I did just let it recur so it's doing something right. From the best I can tell there are no ads that lead to paying more. It is a shame that some of these studio sites don't put just a little more time into them. I'm more satisfied with Lethal Hardcore than my last membership at Videobox.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Updated:
06-13-1211:56pm (Update History) Reason: Was wrong about some of the sites that are included not being standalone sites. One can see the underlined ones. Those do come with a membership.
Pros:
- Interesting, large and somewhat exclusive studio DVD site.
- TBP discount pushed me to join, glad I did now.
- Good download speeds unless you download more than a couple files, once one finishes, the other still downloading files don't pick up the speed.
- Pictures with some of the scenes, come zipped, various sizes, most are in the 1280 long end range.
- Quite a bit of content I've not seen from their studio. As a semi-regular on Videobox, I usually check the Lethal Hardcore DVDs. Am happy from the standpoint of a collector since there are some here I've never seen.
- The site is confusing, will be in cons, but was feeling risky and found out there are more sites included with the membership. Though they do seem to just be separate genres, more so than actual separate sites.
- Large amount of content especially for the price.
- Newer scenes have HD option, will be more specific in BL.
Cons:
- Site is confusing. Bad confusing. They have six sites listed at the top of the main page besides Lethal Hardcore. Since I joined Lethal Hardcore, I figured this meant I would have to pay extra for the scenes on those sites. I took a chance and clicked download on one of the scenes from one of the other sites, it downloaded, no extra charges. This is a con because the site does sell itself, once a member, as a network of sites. I had no idea when joining it.
- Varying quality throughout the sites and the dreaded mislabeled file size. Here is a "high" .wmv file, listed as 780 MB, go to download it's 348 MB. I use those numbers to determine the quality, so this can be frustrating.
- Some scenes don't have pictures. Did I mention the confusion? Took me forever to find the zip download link. It was right in front of my eyes, but I kept looking over it. More my fault there, but could just be below average layout.
Bottom Line:
For the first time in about 4 years, I joined a site just because a handful of scenes I had seen on a TGP site with the Lethal Hardcore watermark on them. Anytime I have joined a site just for a handful of scenes, I've ended up disappointed. That's not the case here.
I want to reiterate how confusing this site can be. If I click Models ---> Abbey Brooks, it shows me 1 available scene on Lethal Hardcore. Below that scene it says, "Videos from Network Sites" and has five more videos of Abbey. Well, of course, this just pissed me off at first since I figured I was going to click one and it would say, "You need to join this site to see this video". But it didn't. I looked up at the url of the video on the "other" site and it was lethalmembers, so these other sites are included. These are the sites, I do see that none of these sites are listed as standalone sites so that's why I believe they are just Lethal Hardcore videos from different genres. HDVids, TeenGirls, MatureWomen, ExploitedExGF, Tranny.com and GayUltra. Some are very small as well so I have no reason to think they are standalone sites.
These are the numbers they advertise.
143,842 videos, 9,104 DVDs, 31,908 Stars, 3,256 HD Videos. They also have a streaming only "user submitted videos" section.
After that it gets a little confusing again. The site listed as HDVids, which you do have access to has 231 pages of 30 DVDs on each page. That's close to 7,000 DVDs and from the best I can tell you can access them all. I'm not going to go through all 7,000 to be positively sure, but I have been able to download the ones I have tried. These videos are very similar to what you will find on the other DVD sites, you'll see Teen Pink Visual all the way to the more obscure studios with generic names like "German Fucking".
This is not a bad thing to me. When I have the time, I have found quite a few older scenes that I have looked for for years. Here's the good news.
Despite all the confusing, the site works. It has a "favorites" button on every model and your favorites can be accessed from the toolbar at the top of the screen. Videobox veterans know the frustrations members have faced with the favorites being messed up. The site also has a clean interface when looking for certain models. It also lets you search by DVD series, so if you like their Hot Bods and Tail Pipes series you can pull just those videos up.
Once you get over the initial confusion, you find out that this site is a very good site. It has separate tabs to search for scenes, you can then whittle it down to search by newest to oldest updates or you can change your mind and search by entire DVDs. I mean no offense to their webmaster, but considering the early confusion, I kind of got the feeling someone was putting this site together and accidentally got it right.
They have a little bit of everything in the Lethal Hardcore DVD series' from Cougars Crave Kittens to My Stepdaughter Tossed My Salad. We eating or watching porn? Seriously, the series' are ones most porn fans are familiar with. I'm almost certain they don't have all their DVDs here. I have always liked the Hot Bods and Tail Pipe series. When I look at that series specifically it makes me think they have a lot of their DVDs here because they have 30 full DVDs just in that series. That alone is around 120-130 scenes just under Hot Bods and Tail Pipe.
I do wish they had more pictures especially with the older sets. I want to say most of the newer DVDs have pictures, but I'm just going to say "some" do. It reminds me somewhat of ZTOD in that respect. You also do have the option to view just picture sets. These have 1024px and 1600px download options.
Video quality, I was hoping to be able to be very specific on how many HD DVDs they have, but they don't have dates stamped on the DVDs to tell when they posted them. I can tell you this, they have over 120 Lethal Hardcore DVDs with HD option. I want to say that's roughly 25-30% of the DVDs in HD. The high option is not bad at all on the others. It's 720x480 with 2000 bitrate. From my experience on DVD sites, I would say they are about average or equal to other DVD sites in overall quality.
What lifts them up are those obscure ones. The rare (Model name) scene that you've never seen before and there are lots of those for me. It's not a best in class site, but it's near the best in the class known as, "I've already got everything from the best in class site".
The price makes it even better. One warming. We have all fell for missing a cross-sale when joining, but this site as well as Fame Digital and a couple others have been the first ones to use the checked cross-sale way over on the side of your screen method. It's over near your right boundary. Started at 89 on this site, dropped it to 86 for that. With that warning in mind, I do recommend this site as an alternative DVD site.
Thanks for this, I know how to do about.config on Firefox, but hadn't even thought about that. I will give it a try.
The problem seems to just be on .wmv video files. It picks up .rar or .zip files fine and also .mp4 files. When I download a .wmv file, the dialog box has a tick box for "Do this always for this type of file", but it's inactive on the .wmv files so you can't check it. I may try installing an older version of Firefox and see if that changes it. Thanks again.
I would guess a little of all. There are some photographers that you can pick out just by the model's poses. DDF almost always has at least a couple in every set of the model standing on her tiptoes, back arched and none of them look comfortable in that pose.
"With Erotic Destinations at times it felt like I was supposed to be admiring the location more than the model."
Don't feel too bad. I once found a vacation spot from their sets! I always like seeing nice scenery as the backdrop, but I want to say, "There's pretty trees back there behind the model". Some of Erotic Destinations settings left me saying, "There was a naked woman in that picture?"
I know we've had some laughs over the years about my tidiness. I remember badandy making me cringe talking about his collection of "new folder" folders. My recent problem is that I got a new PC. For some reason, several sites have something in their script that will not let me left-click/one-click to download a file to a specified folder. This only happens in Firefox. I have even found plugins and addons that are supposed to fix it, but they don't.
Over the last month or so, I have been using Chrome for downloading since it doesn't have the problem. I just create a site folder, folders for each model I want to download, then go through "save all downloads to" specify the model, download everything that model has on the site I'm on.
I picked fun, I like to try and guess who submitted it before opening it. I've had this feeling before when reading it from the main page, "(Member name) had to have submitted this one".
Ones that I liked:
Simony Diamond with near platinum blonde on DDF. I think Simony's hair color and style has changed enough that she overrides any hair style or color change.
Anetta Keys with blonde on several sites. Similar to Simony, Anetta had very dark to a light brown with blonde highlights then jumped all the way to blonde. Maybe that's some kind of easing us in method?
Zuzana Zelinova with red, I had seen her blonde for so long and the few early brunette sets, the red, mostly used on DDF was a really nice change. Also worth noting her body seemed to change with the red hair too since she was getting older than the slim, cute model she started out as with blonde/brunette.
One that did a like and dislike:
Sandra Shine started with the brunette look and it wasn't that good because she is light complected. She went to the much more known reddish brown and I thought that looked near perfect on her, so there's the like change, but then she went to blonde and I didn't care for it.
One that I disliked:
April Flowers from blonde to brunette. I usually prefer brunette, but the blonde had become a big part of April's look and she seemed to lose something when she went brunette.
I should have been clearer about the Super Pack's 4 sites. At one time, all 4 of those sites were standalone sites for $24.95 each and were stream only. So to put all 4 into one package for one price is a bundle. Once they made this bundle, they started allowing downloads. So those sites are no longer stream only and you get all four for $24.95. I had time to think about what I had said in this comment and my review. Haze Her is another of the addons, but the deal I was offered was to Brandi Belle for $1.25 for 3 days unlimited access and downloads. With the fast internet speed was able to download the 200+ scenes from it in two days. This offer came about 2 weeks into a membership. I signed in, it popped up and said it was a gift for being a loyal customer.
And I didn't notice the negative part of the upsells since I usually have at least one of the addon packs so I get most of those scenes that would otherwise require payment to download. It's not much different than how Videobox is with their Evil Angel and Vivid channels. VB keeps the Kink and Reality Kings content out of search results, but the Evil Angel and Vivid still show up.
As for middle of the road, I would guess you are running into the same thing you did on Reality Kings since the models are more on the curvy side. Outside of subjectivity, it's hard to deny the technical quality, the quantity or the value. But you shouldn't feel too bad there. A lot of our members here love Teen Mega World, I was bored with it within a few days because all the models are slim. I'm running into that again on another site rated high by members here, Fucked Hard 18. I've been a member for 2 weeks and have downloaded 6 scenes/videos/pictures because the models don't really interest me. I've always had problems with that when writing a review since I try to be subjective towards the quality, quantity, but have trouble being subjective towards the model types if a site mainly focuses on one type.
I don't know if this will help on Bang Bros, but I started using the "sites" button and going through each of their sites instead of trying to go through the whole network at one time. This way I found the sites/genres I preferred that they have, from there was able to go to individual models that stand out.
I don't have a membership right now, but this is what I remember being there.
Super Pack - Dancing Bear, The CFNM Show, College Rules and one other. These were $24.95 each around this time last year and were stream only.
DVD Pack - No idea what this is, it's some kind of high priced DVD site similar to Videobox.
Then they had a whole list of sites with Spanish name. If you join any of the Spanish sites, you get access to all of them for 24.95. It's very rare, mostly South American models. I want to say the name of it is Culiando.
They also had Reality Kings offers that actually changed price nearly everyday from $9.95 to $24.95.
The site I see when visiting as a guest is the same one I reviewed from. They have been putting subtle and not so subtle changes in for a couple years now, so it's hard for me to say if the changes were there when I was a member. I had been planning on joining again, probably this weekend and will let you know if you do and notice anything differently.
This was one of my favorite sites awhile back, but they keep changing access to bonus sites, then offer no bonus sites, then offer several, but they don't work. Still, the older content is really good for those who collect exclusive content of Euro models.
I do but don't think I even realize it's there since the yellow bar pops up at the top that tells me it blocked a pop-up. I usually can't get the cursor arrow to it before it disappears. I also think it's a bit ironic that a pop-up blocker pops up a message saying it blocked a pop-up.
Thank you, I'm getting the feeling this is becoming a normal trend for the more established sites to rest on the laurels, so to speak, had a membership at Sapphic Erotica and while it's still a good site, I can't tell much difference in the content shot in 2008 and 2012.
You may have just nailed what I thought was a problem. I was thinking Charter advertises 30 MB/s, but it may be 30 Mbps and they're not ripping me off when I download only at 2.5 MB/s.
I have Charter. The speed I pay for is 30 MB/s and when I test it on speedtest.net, I get between 20 MB/s to 32 MB/s depending on which server I connect to.
On sites that I download from, I have been maxing out at 2-2.5 MB/s. I'm happy with that. I still remember the days of loading up 10 Eve Angel photo zipsets and letting my dial-up access run all night just to download 10 photo sets. I do think Charter is advertising a 100 MB/s connection, but it's $110 per month.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Was for years my highest rated site. One of the internet's biggest and oldest sites.
- The updates continue to fill the site up, 3 photo sets, 2 videos a day for at least 8 years straight, 365 days a year.
- The last few years content has had HD video and the added high option in picture downloads that are around 3000 high end.
- You see a lot of models you've never seen on here, though they usually start popping up on other sites, in a recent trend though, I haven't seen as many new ones as Twistys used to have.
- Search engine is one of the better ones in porn. It still will recognize aliases and I think it's the only one that does that. Also has all the regular tags for searching.
- To me this is the biggest pro and I will further it in the bottom line, if you haven't been here in awhile or maybe even never, you are going to see tons of content you haven't seen.
- Download speed was very good also.
Cons:
- A completely subjective con. I have had anywhere from 12-15 monthly memberships here, a 1 year one and four 3 month ones over the years. A bit of sameness has crept in for me.
- Maybe a word I've looked for before, I usually use it for music, but some of the content seems too polished, like it's overproduced. That could be the airbrushing which isn't near as bad as in the past.
- I think they could get more out of models than they do. Especially in solo scenes. It may be going back to being too polished, but it does seem that way.
Bottom Line:
Twistys has always been one of my top 5 favorite sites. I admit part of the reason I always liked it was the former webmaster Shap. You could email Shap with problems, questions and he would reply back to you in a day or two, if it was a problem, he would reply back usually in an hour or less. The selling of Twistys worried me because I knew that aspect was going to be gone.
My feeling now is that the new company running it is doing a good job. The content hasn't veered too far off the Twistys path and it's still sort of a harder glam site. My reduction in score is just because I don't feel like the site has improved any. It's possible that between my 1 year membership, in 2010, and now, my tastes have changed some. One thing I do know is that Twistys is now hurt by the retirement or lower activity of some models, especially Euro ones.
At one time, the Anetta Keys/Smrhova, Eve Angel, Stracy Stone, Angel Dark, Sandra Shine and the whole group that was going strong in 2006-2010, were a big selling point for me. All of those have either retired or just aren't very active, though there have been 4 new Eve photo sets this year and 2 new videos added.
This is my overall feeling with this visit to Twistys. I've seen it before. Nothing has really changed. Besides not having my usual favorite models, I haven't found many of the newer models that I really like or I should say that I really want to collect. That's not the site's fault though.
One thing I think is the site's fault is that they could vary the scenery more. Maybe push a fake different color wall in with paintings on it. I know, that's a sign of boredom, naked woman standing there and I'm complaining about the wall color. But that is the big con for me. I really feel like I've seen this content before though I know I haven't.
I really shouldn't even complain at all. They sent me a promo email that lowered the price to 1/3 of what it is if you join directly through the site.
The good and this is especially good for newcomers to Twistys or anyone who hasn't been on the site in a while. They have 1,095 photo sets per year, 730 videos per year and I have seen content as old as 2001. I can't say they updated that much in 2001, but I feel pretty safe in saying they have more content than a new member could go through in a month, maybe even 6 months. It's one of the very best sites for collectors of individual models since they usually have more than just a handful of photo sets and videos. They even added a new Georgia Jones video this week, who I haven't seen in what seems like a year or two. The numbers can be quite staggering even.
Those are my three favorites on Twistys. A few of the newer American models since they cover the world, not just a certain area.
Tori Black 17 photo sets, 14 videos
Tiffany Thompson 14 photo sets, 11 videos Georgia Jones 39 photo sets, 25 videos
You will occasionally find models that only have 2-4 of each, but there are literally dozens that have 10 or more photo sets and 10 or more videos.
This is all hard to find fault in for a new(er) member, but for me, I felt like I was picking through trying to find one or two new sets of the models I collect.
It would be a very good place to start a porn collection though. The high or big resolution zip files of photo sets have been showing up for a couple of years now and those are around 3000 high end, with a few that I have downloaded going over 3000. Newer videos are HD and have multiple format downloads available. Older picture sets or small zips are 1280 high end, with older videos, I would estimate at least 90% being at least 640/720x480.
Their search engine has always been one of my favorite parts of the site since it is able to recognize aliases. A couple of examples, Eve Angel is known as Eva Shine on Twistys, searching Eve Angel will still bring her up even though she is listed differently on their site. Anetta Keys is listed as Aneta Smrhova, searching with either variation of her first and last name will still recognize her and bring her up.
One thing that saved the score from dropping a little more, Twistys is now doing a Live section where they have a girl or girls doing a live video, it had only been happening once a month, but the last few months hadn't had a new scene. They are showing a new live video scheduled for this month so hopefully they are going to start doing that again since it shows a very good effort to improve the site with something a little different. I'm going to use the +/- again, when I say for new members who like glam porn with masturbation, g/g, some b/g, add 5 points to the score. If you have been here many times before, you could remove 5 points from the score. It's still highly recommended. It's also a good site for those who are interested in the photo side of porn with a nice amount of videos too.
I would have reviewed this site, but because of job duties ended up missing the last two weeks of my membership. Admittedly, I wouldn't have joined this site if not for a promo Kink sent to join it at a much reduced price.
My feeling with this site is that it wasn't what I expected. As someone who isn't really into BDSM, but love Kink's "live" content, I was left with the feeling that this site would be much better for those who love BDSM, but are less into the live part. There is a voyeuristic feel to the content as well as exhibitionist, but some of the BDSM was just a little more than I can enjoy and the live parts aren't like the other Kink sites where a live crowd is brought in to watch.
I could be wrong there. The scenes generally revolve around a group of dressed people doing casual things like eating, cleaning, while a dom or doms, dominate a sub or subs, right in front of them. Where I could be wrong in this not being an actual live audience of normal people is that the "guests" are dressed as if they are at a social event. I think my believability factor is being pushed here. I can't imagine a group of everyday people going out and plunking down cash for a thousand or two thousand dollar outfit to watch someone be dominated, but again, I could be wrong. It's hard for me to see myself doing that so of course it makes it less believable for me.
On Ultimate Surrender's live shoots the crowd is a group of normally dressed people in t-shirts, jeans, shorts and while those are likely planned as well, with crowd/performers interaction, I find it more believable.
Not to down this site because I've never seen a bad Kink site. As always, the content is very high quality technically and in creativity. If I get another promo to it, I will definitely give it another go, but I can't see paying the non-promo price for it. Would definitely recommend it for those who like BDSM and even more of a recommendation if they like voyeurism and exhibitionism. The best compliment I can give is that I think the site is a bit ahead of its time. The other reason I wouldn't review it is I didn't even get a chance to try out the live cams or raw footage sections.
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