Thanks for the detailed answer. Spanking isn't a niche that I'm into - yet. A few years ago I could have listed some niches that I wasn't into that I am today mostly thanks to guys like you making recommendations like these. I'll be checking out all of these sites, even the ones you say are pretty extreme, and I'll likely join one or two.
(And I should add that puns on my username are perfectly fine. It's a longstanding nickname I've had that reflects my past military service but mostly that my friends all realize that I am obsessed with the female bum. Actually, obsessed isn't really the right term, but I don't know a word for obsessed x 100.)
I don't really have an interest in this but I sort of want to check it out. If a guy wanted to join a spanking site for the first time would you recommend this or a different site?
What are the resolutions for the most recent scenes?
Thanks for the comment. To be honest though, none of the sites here are true gangbang sites. Hardcore Partying is probably the closest to being a gangbang but while there may be dozens of people in the room only a few are fucking. In most cases there are three to five girls and they each take on two or three guys. Their fun to watch, but not true gangbangs. Think of them as mini-gangbangs with some exhibitionism thrown in for good measure.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- 37 Sites
- Over 1800 scenes
- Something for most broad range of usual niches
- Supports download managers
- Streaming available
- Downloads available
- Download speeds to industry norms
- Exclusive scenes with well known stars
- TBP / PU discount
Cons:
- Updates are infrequent for a network of this size
- Only one file type for download WMV
- Search function needs to be improved
- Scene page hogs bandwidth as it downloads to stream
- Wide range in resolutions
- Some scenes very low resolution
- Scenes arent dated
- No biller
- Some scenes labeled as HD arent
Bottom Line:
Ive got mixed feelings about this network. On one hand, its large, with over 1800 scenes spread over 37 sites covering the usual porn niches of teens, cougars, lesbians, MILFs (if those differ from cougars I dont know), big dicks and interracial. They also have some relatively rare sites with group sex in a party setting. Probably the only major site niche theyre missing is anal, but I promise I didnt let that glaring oversight affect my score or review. Another advantage to this network is that it does offer exclusive scenes with some of the best known porn models. If youre looking to add new scenes of your favourite starlets you should consider a membership here.
On the other hand, updates are few and far between for such a large network, and many of the sites dont update at all. Because the scenes arent dated in any usable way I cant really provide more definitive information, but it appears that only ten sites are regularly updating, with another four that may be occasionally updating. By regularly updating though, I dont mean that it is regular as in a set schedule. As of the date of this review the last update was nine days ago. The network updates by adding one scene to the network at a time. So if you join the network for a specific site you may find that site doesnt update or doesnt post an update for the month youre there.
As porn, this is just standard-fare stuff. That isnt meant to be an accolade or a criticism, it is a simple fact. On most of the sites the porn looks just like the porn on other similar networks. The production values are up to normal standards. The networks production values dont fail it, but neither do they set it apart.
The networks main page shows you the most recent six updates. This is the only place where there is an upload date associated with a scene. From there you can go into the individual sites or search for pornstars. I didnt find the search function to be especially useful, but there is a pull-down menu of tags and that works well. Be advised that the tag menu works on individual sites too, so if you have the After Class Adventures site up and use the anal tag it will sort just that site by anal. Using the search function to do that will give all the anal scenes on the network even though youre just on one site.
Opening a scene brings you to a separate page. My biggest complaint is that the scene starts downloading the streaming video immediately and automatically. I find this to be a big bandwidth hog that I dont want. To the networks credit though, the scene doesnt start to play automatically. At this page you can stream or download the video. Ive criticized sites in past reviews for only offering mp4s since I prefer WMVs, so its only fair that I criticize this network for only offering WMVs. Customers should have a choice.
An issue with the downloaded scenes is that they are only available in one resolution. In some cases, presumably with older uploads (remember, no date info is available) the resolution is 320x240 at 906kb/s. These are almost unwatchable by 2012 standards. Newer files come in at 1280x720 at 3100kb/s. Both resolutions play at 30fps and are in WMV 9. The site really needs to remaster their older stuff and offer a lower resolution option for people who dont have the bandwidth to download a large file. Apart from the lowest resolution scenes, they look good.
In a comment from last year, insomniacxxx stated that some scenes labeled as HD arent. This is still true, but it may be that he and I noticed this on the same scenes. I saw some 320x240 scenes that had the HD logo.
Photos are available for most scenes, as singles and zips. The resolution isnt bad, but not great, at 945x630.
The network allows download managers and I had download speeds comparable to similar sites.
The site bills internally and doesnt use a third-party biller.
So would I recommend this site? Without a doubt I definitely would, but Id make sure that a prospective member realized that it isnt perfect. A member gets access to a lot of good porn for an excellent price using the TBP/PU discount. I realize this isnt a glowing review, but it is a decent site that could see some improvements.
Everything I wrote in my 2012 review still stands except for two things. First, the site has grown a lot and continues to update regularly. Currently there are 105 DVDs on the site.
The site primarily gives access to several series from Mile High / Reality Junkies. These are:
American Tranny (15 Scenes)
Babysitter Diaries (64 Scenes) Big Breast Nurses (41 Scenes)
Charlies Porn Family (6 Scenes)
Corrupt Schoolgirls (24 Scenes)
Cougars Prey (43 Scenes) Couples Seeking Teens (71 Scenes)
DP my Wife with Me (8 Scenes)
Filthy Family (52 Scenes)
Girlfriends Get Even (15 Scenes)
MILFs Seeking Boys (24 Scenes)
Moms Cuckold (69 Scenes)
Office Perverts (48 Scenes)
Pornstar Athletics (15 Scenes)
Too Big for Teens (69 Scenes)
You might be able to tell from the titles, but the two best-served niches here are teens and MILFs and there is a lot for both groups. Many of the titles cover both niches in the same scene. Im more of a teen fan but the number of MILF scenes dont bother me. It does seem a bit odd to have selected two opposite niches to cover.
One niche that isnt common on the site is anal. Thats a negative for me but I realize thats a positive for a lot of people. There are currently only 32 anal scenes on the site and those are split between the teen and MILF genres. (This doesnt include the 15 tranny scenes which probably also have anal.)
The update schedule is regular, but also fairly slow with only one scene being added every four days. Given that the site only draws from one studio the update schedule is understandable. I dont think its a negative, but you should be aware of it if you plan to join.
The other big change from when I reviewed the site is that like all sites on the Fame network the timeouts when using a download manager have lengthened considerably. Before the change it was impossible to queue more than three scenes because the links would time-out so quickly. Thats been fixed. There is still a time-out limit but it is much more reasonable and allows you to queue 15+ scenes (720p, approx. 1GB per scene), though this also would depend on your internet connection.
Also like all other Fame sites there are a lot of options for downloads and streaming. WMVs are available in 160p, 240p, 360p and 480p. MP4s are available in those resolutions too and are also available in 540p, 720p and 1080p.
Id keep the 88 score that I gave it last time and still recommend the site to anyone whos interested in what is on offer. I cant confirm if the trial is still full and unlimited but the discount price makes this a pretty good value.
One final note: Im not saying that PinkPanther is wrong in his comment, but I havent experienced anything like that in the two times Ive been a member. If that changes Ill post another comment.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of the Fame Digital network
- TBP Discount
- Updates every five days
- Top quality porn
- Many options to stream or download the videos
- Videos and photos
- Supports download managers
- Good download speeds
- High production values in the DVDs
Cons:
- Small site (as of this writing)
- Only 41 DVDs as of review date
- Not bundled with any bonus sites
- Scene links time out after approximately 10 minutes
- No zips for the photos
- Not much anal
Bottom Line:
Im a big fan of many of the Fame Digital sites, especially the two that give access to a wide variety of Evil Angel DVDs. This site is a relatively new addition to the Fame family and if youre familiar with their premium sites then this one looks a lot like the others. Thats not a bad thing; all the premium Fame sites have a straightforward approach to sorting and accessing the DVDs and scenes. Other sites could learn from their practical approach.
The site is laid out well: you can choose to sort by scenes, DVDs or by series name. You can search by star and niche too. Finding what you like here is certainly no problem.
The site features titles from the Reality Junkies / Mile High studio. All the Reality Junkies series listed on IAFD are represented on this site. Theres a good mix too, meaning that most people could find material they would like. Legal teens and cougars are both well represented. Series like Babysitter Diaries, Cougars Prey, Couples Seeking Teens, and Pornstar Athletics are all represented here. It seems that just about the only niche that is under-served is anal. For many, that might be a good thing, but for an anal fan it is a bit disappointing.
The Reality Junkies studio is relatively new so you wont find any classics here. Also, since they havent been around very long that will indicate the models youre likely to see. Many of my current favourite models make appearances here.
Like other Fame sites there are a variety of options for seeing the videos. Streaming and downloading is available and both offer various options. Streaming is available in three resolutions from 240p to 540p. Downloads are available in two formats, WMV and MP4. The WMVs are available in 240p or 480p. I downloaded the 480p videos and they come in at 720x400 at 2200kb/s. They use codec 8 and the videos play at 30fps. I dont pretend to understand the technical bits of videos, but even though these numbers are lower than on other sites the scenes look great. The MP4s are available in five resolutions from 240p to 1080p. Id prefer to download the HD stuff, but I hate the players that play MP4s. To further add to your choices, there are five resolutions available for mobile devices, also up to 1080p. There arent many other sites that offer such a wide variety of options.
Pictures are available, but since this is a DVD site I didnt download any. Theyre decent quality at 1280x763 and there can be a lot of them per scene, but the deal-breaker on photos is that there doesnt appear to be any zips. There are frequently hundreds of photos per scene so if you want all the photos be prepared to work for them. This is a really odd oversight for a site that gets everything else so right.
There are some negatives to the site too, but each member will weigh these as they choose. By far the most serious negative to the site (for now, anyway) is the size of the site. Currently there are only 41 DVDs on the site. Updates are added, but there doesnt appear to be a schedule for updates as they can occur every couple of days but sometimes there looks to be as much as five days between updates. I cant say this for sure, but I assume that the updates add a scene like the other premium Fame sites and not a full DVD. Offsetting the small size is the TBP discounted price of $9.95. One caveat with that is youll want to remember to cancel your membership before the end of the month as it looks like it rebills at $30.
Other minor negatives are that unlike most of the other Fame premium sites this one isnt bundled with any other sites. That certainly isnt fatal but it would be a better value if this membership gave you access to other Fame sites.
The final negative, which is also in common with other Fame sites is that if youre using a download manager youll find that the links time-out after about 10 minutes.
Obviously any prospective member will have to decide if the value is here given the newness and size of the site, but for me the (current) lack of quantity is more than offset by the quality of the site and what it offers. The DVDs themselves have high production values with current A-list stars, and the site offers them to members through a simple and effective interface and high download speeds. To further add to the value, Im not aware that this studio offers these videos on other sites. The bottom line for me is that this is a site that I was glad I joined and I wouldnt hesitate to recommend it.
Yeah... it was a true case of bait and switch. That happened to me with a couple of Gamma sites on Black Friday. Evil Angel was on sale for $5. How could I say no? There was no mention that it was streaming-only.
Heads up for anyone wanting to take advantage of the RK Christmas deal.
I joined Reality Kings to take advantage of the Christmas deal offered here at TBP. I joined knowing full well that the membership would be streaming-only and that I’d have to pay an additional $15 to get downloads. In my opinion, that’s still a good deal so I signed up. On signup I did have an option to join “RK Premium” for an addition fee but that was for two days only. I don’t know if RK Premium is downloads or something else so I clicked ‘no.’
Once I got into the site there were two ways to upgrade to downloads. The first was to go into the ‘my account’ settings and the second was simply to try to download and a dialogue box popped up. But the problem is that the only download upgrades offered were upgrades to extended memberships, one of them being a $130 upgrade to an annual subscription. And to be honest, I still wasn’t sure that these were even the upgrade to get downloads.
The good news is that I was able to add the downloads for $15 to my monthly subscription but to do so I had to go to the biller’s chat service. The bad news is that took 45 minutes. It may be that Probiller was experiencing long delays today but it was 10 minutes before I was connected to an agent and even then I occasionally had to type something to keep the session from timing out after five minutes of inactivity.
So just be aware that unless I’ve missed somewhere on RK where the download upgrade is quick and simple that you’ll have to jump through a few hoops to get downloads if you want them.
I’m about to join Mofos through the Christmas offer here and the setup is the same for that so I may have to go through this again…
I've had this problem three or four times too. I can't say for sure that it happened with a RK subscription but that is entirely possible because I do subscribe there once per year or so.
My experiences have all been different from yours though. My experiences have all been that I call the biller and I get something like the attitude you got but then I get transferred to another department and things change quickly. My impression is that whoever I'm speaking with at this other department can see the logs from the cam session because each time I've had the reply 'yeah, I can definitely see that this isn't you.' No one has said this, but it's been implied that people with hacking skills will use these cam sites to speak with family or friends around the world. In all cases I was given a prompt refund.
Also in all cases I have asked the specific question about whether or not my credit card information was hacked too and each time I get the same answer - your card information isn't linked to the cam site. In the several times I've had this happen there has been no evidence that my card was hacked too.
In my opinion there are two problems. The first are sites that create these free cam sites for their members. If I wanted to join a cam site I would. But like ads, I suspect there is enough uptake to warrant doing it this way.
The second problem is that these cam sites must be pretty easy to hack. It can't be cheap for the cam providers to have their sites hacked regularly.
As much as this is a pain in the ass, and trust me, I know it is a major pain in the ass, it is likely that your card is safe.
The issue about having the 24 hour wait for me is that if I get cut off at 9PM one night then I may not have time to go on that late the next day so my wait time becomes much longer than 24 hours. Download limits really bug me...
To make matters worse, their download limit seems to be arbitrarily imposed and can even change from day to day and user to user. This is counter-intuitive, but when you download HD files you can download more. I was often able to download up to 40GB per day the last time I was there as long as I stuck to HD files. The problem is that there often isn't any consistency so what I experienced a few months ago may not be the case now. But try the HD if you have the capacity and you may find you can download more.
I'm surprised at your comment that there is a lot of anal stuff and ATM there now. I was a member earlier this year and don't remember there being much anal. But as an anal fan I may not notice it as much as someone who doesn't like it.
I strongly agree with you - download limits seems to be a way to annoy that people who actually buy memberships. But if the limit remains as high as I found it (only when downloading the HD videos) then I can at least live with it. But I do wish RK was more clear about it.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- 42 sites (though not all are updating)
- Several unique niches
- Excellent mainstream porn
- Supports download managers
- Good mix of models
- Good mix of niches
- TBP / PU discount
Cons:
- Vague daily download limit
- Some sites no longer updating
- No active anal site on network
Bottom Line:
I had been a member here before and liked the network but didnt like the daily download limit. What I didnt like most about that limit was how vague and even arbitrary it seemed. Some members reported not encountering the limit, while other like me were cut off well before the limit stated in the sites terms. The limit is still there, and its still vague, but I didnt hit the limit often despite downloading a lot (Ill explain that) and the network does offer some excellent porn.
The site is logically laid out with the main page showing all of the network updates available. There is a tab that brings you to a page with links to the specific sites. Each site has its own page that looks like the home page. There is a useful search function in that you can enter a term and a drop-down menu appears with some suggestions that you may be looking for.
The network offers a really good mix of models and niches. There really is something here for most tastes: legal teens, MILFs, big breasts, big assess, women of color, party sites, girl/girl and anal. There is also a good mix of models with some big names and some lesser-knowns.
The biggest difference for me this time was that I only downloaded HD scenes. There are four download options: WMV, and three MD4s (low medium and HD). I didnt sample any other resolutions but the HD scenes are 1920x1080, 10,000kb/s and 29fps. Streaming is also available (no options on resolution) and clips are available too. There are also both pics and screencaps as singles or zips.
The network has 42 sites. To save me from adding details to each PU page, here are some basic details. Ive grouped them by when they update and the number indicates how many scenes there are currently:
This is a personal opinion, but Im disappointed that they no longer update VIP Crew and Bikini Crashers. Im a big fan of party sites and these were well done. (In the VIP still updates, but the dead sites offered some twists.) Im particularly disappointed that Captain Stabbin is no longer active. With this site no longer updating, RK is in an odd position of no longer having an anal-themed site on its network.
The network started adding the HD option in September 2010 so if you insist on HD youll still have access to almost 700 scenes. Keep in mind that the advantage to the HD scenes apart from quality is that you can download more before hitting the daily limit. One drawback is that that many of the files are large, coming in at more than 2GB.
The site supports download managers and I had no obvious problems with time-outs.
While RK isnt the only site on the internet to impose a daily download limit, they are unique in having one that seems vague and random at the same time. The limit is imposed differently if you are downloading HD or SD videos. If you opt for HD files, as I did, the limit was very reasonable, but since it was also higher than what is set out in the sites terms and conditions document that may not always be the case. The sites terms state that a member may download up to 10 gigabytes of data each day, and additionally up to 15 big movies as defined in Manwin Billing's sole discretion. The last time I was a member here I downloaded SD files and would be cut off at 8 to 10GB per day. This time I took only HD files and could usually get 30 or more files (at an average of 1GB each) before I was off. So while there is a limit, if this is how its being used then it isnt too big an issue.
The last time I reviewed RK I scored it much lower and that was solely because of the download limit and my perception that I should avoid HD because of that limit. This time around I took only HD and the limit for those is almost reasonable. This is a huge network with a lot of great porn that is easily accessed. Apart from my general opposition to limits and my subjective wish that three of the sites were still active I can still recommend RK as long as a prospective member knows what to expect. Its a lot of excellent porn for the money, especially considering the TBP discount.
has anyone ever really figured out what the download limit is here?
When I reviewed this network a long time ago I couldn't figure out what the download limit actually was. Some days I was allowed to download 12GB, other half that. But other members here said they had no limit imposed.
The clause in the Terms of Reference that is quoted or paraphrased at TBP is that there is a daily limit of 10 gigabytes of data each day, and additionally up to 15 big movies. I emailed the site back in 2011 to ask what that meant and go no answer.
But now the mystery has deepened a bit. I just went back to the site to confirm the wording in the TOS and there is no mention of the limit. I searched for every term I could think that would be used in that clause and got nothing.
So are there any current subscribers who can provide some insight into this issue? In her recent review at TBP, Vanessa doesn't mention it but it is still mentioned in the site stats.
That's a good point. I use Internet Download Manager and it has that feature so that is an option. You're right that it sucks to have to go this route, but if it works, it works.
That's insane. I had an email offer from them last week and thought of joining but then I remembered the download limit. I'm not entirely opposed to limits, but a 5GB limit in 2013 with HD files isn't acceptable. I'd like to rejoin, but not under these conditions. Thanks for the heads up.
There is no way to tell how close you are to the limit. They don't have any indication. But to make matters worse it seems that there is no universal application of the limit either. Some members here report having a limit imposed (like me) and other say they never had a limit. The Terms of Service are vague too in that they say there is a daily limit of 10GB (which might have been acceptable ten years ago but isn't realistic now) but there is some vague language about allowing a higher limit if you downlaod larger files. I emailed them to ask for clarification on that but never heard back.
I don't think there's any punishment factor here. I think that if at any time in a 24 hour period you hit the limit (amd I hit it at downloads as low as 7GB in a day) you get blocked from downloading for 24 hours.
Maybe with some luck you'll be one of the members who don't have a limit imposed. I'm not completely against limits, but 10GB isn't reasonable.
I know this is just a pipe dream, but maybe, just maybe the site owners will read all the complaints here about the unreasonable daily limit and increase it. I like a lot of there stuff but I'll probably never rejoin them until the limit is removed or made more reasonable.
Probably a good idea. I like their material but found myself frustrated by the site.
Interesting note on the RA thing. I wasn't aware of that. Even though I have a naval name, I wear an army uniform. I just couldn't think of any army-oriented, ass-related pun for a name...
When I was a member the limit was imposed on me and was usually imposed lower than the 10GB limit. I reviewed the Terms of Service and found the applicable clause to be vague. I still do. I contacted the site and asked for clarification on how they interpret that clause and did not receive an answer. Even if they didn't respond to my specific email, you'd think that if they saw the confusion here they'd weigh in and provide some clarification.
The vague element of theTOS is what are "big movies". The TOS makes it sound like the daily limit is 25GB, but I never experienced that. To further complicate matters, the way you're downloads get reactivated is also confusing. My recollection is that after 24 hours I didn't get my 10GB back, but only got it back over a period of hours. So if I hit the limit at 10PM on day one, I wasn't given 10GB at 10:01PM on day two. I was given some download ability but would quickly hit the wall again and have to wait an hour or so before I could download more. That was frustrating enough, but to add to my frustration was when I would read comments from other PU members who reported no limits.
I don't think I'm an unusual PU in what I download, but with file sizes approaching 1GB and fiber op connections becoming more common I think a lot of people would find a 10GB limit low.
I'm not opposed to limits, but they need to be realistic, clear and evenly applied. This site lacks those elements. That's too bad too, because I liked the content and would rejoin otherwise.
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