Don't worry about it! My review would have just re-stated what you said.
The porn niche of MILF is odd. First, there seems to be a stock definition of someone who has large breasts, real or fake. I like that FTV has a broader definition. Frankly, I'm not really a fan of the whole MILF designation. Who cares? If a beautiful woman wants to do porn I don't care what her age is. I tend to lean to younger models primarily because many of those have the smaller breasts / petite body that I like. But there are so-called MILFs that I still love too. Remember Tara Ashley? She had a short career and started in her early 30s. She even was cast in some teen-themed stuff. Models like Dani Jensen and Marie McCray will always cause me to hit the download button, regardless of their age.
Besides, just because a model is 20 doesn't mean she has to be petite. Gabbie Carter is a big deal these days and while I see the star quality in her, her body type isn't what I usually watch.
Porn classifications are strange and we can't change them.
FTVX has been teased for so long that it's probably just a unicorn now. There are a few hardcore scenes at FTV Girls. Those started as teasers for the new site which was promised to be coming soon. That was maybe five years ago. The really strange thing is that the guy who owns the site could make a ton of money by going ahead with it. But then again, he's probably in the 1% just on FTV Girls alone.
One thing I do miss is the more risque public shoots at FTV Girls. They still exist but are more guarded now. The site owner wound up in legal trouble for one particular scene. Unfortunately that scene is no longer available.
I might regret writing this and drawing the ire of some, but it's odd that it's completely illegal for a couple of models to flash their breasts discretely in a store but it's legal for someone to walk in with a loaded handgun.
I recall Sally Struthers once lamenting that if a movie depicted a man cutting off a woman's nipple it got a PG rating. If it depicted a man kissing a woman's nipple it got an R Rating.
Excellent review! Coincidentally, I was starting to write a review of this site as well but that doesn't make sense since you've covered everything and your comments are very close to what I was writing.
I agree that the whole "MILF" thing here is stretched a bit. My preference is for younger models so while I have been a FTV Girls fan and regular subscriber for a long time this was my first time joining FTV MILFS. What drew me in was that many of these supposed MILFs are in their 20s and very beautiful. I'm glad I joined.
Like you, the fact that the videos are broken down into clips has caused me problems too. I'd guess that the first few times I joined and rejoined FTV Girls it took me a while to discover/remember that these were in clips. It is confusing though I suspect the FTV sites have a lot of recurring subscribers so this isn't an issue for them.
There has been a third FTV site that's been teased over the past several years. It's called FTVX. Apparently Rob, the site owner, has some hardcore scenes with some of the models and he had been teasing a full site for these but nothing has ever come of it. That seems odd to me as it could be very lucrative for him.
I've heard that FTVX is coming later this year too. That's a site I'll be joining as soon as it goes live. FTV does some excellent stuff so I have high hopes for their hardcore site.
I'd never heard of this site until you mentioned it but that isn't too surprising since I'm not really into MILFs. Part of me wishes the site didn't exist so the owners could put more time and effort into getting FTV X off the ground. Combining the beautiful women of FTV with hardcore sex is a recipe for a great site.
This site is part of the Burning Angel network, which features models with lots of tattoos, some piercings and generally with a Goth or punk look. This site blends the niche of a specific look for the models with sex in a bathroom. Most of the bathrooms aren’t private so don’t look for public bathroom sex here. The site is small with just 28 scenes and it hasn’t updated since March, 2011.
Khan's right on this. I see the discount when I click 'join' so the most likely issue is a cookie from an earlier visit. Clear your cache and you should be fine.
This looks like a great site, BTW. If you join please post a review to let everyone else know what you think.
Excellent review. Based on your one line "This site is for people that enjoy watching cute teens having hardcore sex and getting sodomized" I think I'll check it out. I do want to see your response to lk2fireone re the limited sites depending on how you join.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- 240 videos
- Streaming and downloads available
- Updates with one video per week
- Pics offered (with zips)
- File names use the model’s name
- Male talent knows their role
- Excellent selection of lesser-known models
- Simple but effective site design
- Supports download managers
Cons:
- Only one file type for download (wmv)
- Model name usually only includes her first name
- Only one anal scene
- Files added after May 2, 2009 start streaming when you open the link (make sure your sound is turned down!)
- Odd process won’t allow you to browse the site while downloading anything – you get a message that the server is down for maintenance
- No search function but can browse by model name and categories (tags)
- Not much variety
- Site name doesn’t give clue of the specific niche
Bottom Line:
Fucked Hard 18 is a single themed site, the theme being massages that end in sex. I learned I had an interest in this niche when I was a member of Massage Creep and have been looking for good massage sites since then. Thankfully several PU members recommended this site because the site name gives no indication of the theme.
The site started on December 29, 2008 and now has 240 videos posted. The site updates by adding one new video a week. For those who prefer files other than wmv format, you’re out of luck. That’s all they offer for downloads. Streaming is also available. The files changed as of May 2, 2009. Prior to that there is only one resolution offered, 640x480 @1200 kb/s. After that date two resolutions are offered for downloads, 1260x720 @ 3200kb/s and 1000x564 @1600kb/s. Streaming is unchanged. All files use wmv codec 9 and play at 30fps. Subjectively, both versions look good. One word of caution for the post-May 2009 videos – selecting the link opens to a new page (as happens with the pre-May videos too) and when the page loads the video starts streaming. This is a pet peeve of mine as it hogs bandwidth and can be an unpleasant surprise for anyone who forgets to turn their speakers off. Webmasters: please don’t do this!
All scenes run from approximately 35 mins to just under an hour.
A potential problem with single-themed sites like this is that the scenes can be repetitive. That criticism can be directed at FH18 because the only thing that changes in the scenes is the girl. The setup is pretty much identical in every scene: the camera opens on a long view of a massage table, the girl walks in, usually by the camera so we can see her ass, she sits on the table and waits for the masseur to come in. He comes in, they introduce themselves. The setup is that she has been selected for a free massage because they are filming a training video. The girl gets naked, gets on the table and the massage begins. One thing I really like is that the masseur (who is the same in all the scenes) uses lots of oil.
One aspect of the scenes that I wish was different is what happens before the sex starts. I think Massage Creep does the setup better. MC has the masseur introduce himself to the girl and then he leaves the room while the girl gets undressed and slips under a sheet on the table. The camera acts as sort of a Peeping Tom while this is going on and the masseur peeks in too. Then the massage starts and it is played straight for a while before it becomes sexualized. With FH18 the masseur is in the room as the girl undresses and gets on the table. The massage quickly becomes sexualized with the masseur deliberately going for the naughty bits very quickly.
There is almost no variety in the scenes. There is only one anal scene, one lesbian scene, and one or two scenes with two girls. Model types are almost exclusively young, petite and natural. There are a few ‘enhanced’ girls, but not that many, and only a few sport a lot of ink.
Two things take this site from ordinary to extraordinary:
1) The models are stunning. The models are mostly ‘porn stars’ in that most of them have a listing on IAFD, but they aren’t ‘big’ stars in that they usually only have a handful of titles to their credit. Some A-listers do appear. While I like most of the A-listers, it is refreshing to see some models that I don’t know. (One beef is that while the site uses the model name in the scene name, they only use her first name. That can be frustrating with some obscure models with relatively common stage names like ‘Amber’ or ‘Natalie.’ I’d prefer her full name so I can source more if I want.)
2) The male talent and crew know how to make good porn. The guy in the scene does an excellent job of never getting in the way or trying to upstage the girl. The cameraman and male talent clearly understand that the scene is about the girl, not the guy. They both do their best to show the girl off. Many other websites could learn a lesson from these guys.
Pictures are available, but this isn’t a picture site so they are really just an afterthought. Zips are available. Resolutions on newer pics are good at 996x1500.
The site itself is simple, but it doesn’t need to be complex. There are multiple pages of scenes and you can sort by model and categories.
There are four bonus sites and several ‘DVD’ sites offered with the membership but those are streaming only.
One annoyance is that you can’t browse the site while downloading. Attempting to do so gives you a blank screen with a message that the server is down for service.
Overall, this is a site that is really better than I expected. The single theme and the lack of variety would suggest a lower score, but the amazing models and the site’s ability to show them off to their best without the guy ever upstaging the girl pushes the site beyond the average. I highly recommend this site.
I’m not doing a full review of this site. This site is one site you get access to when you sign up for any of the Dungeoncorp (aka Dungeon Bank) sites. The other sites are Society SM, Cum Bots, Perfect Slave and Strict Restraint. I did a review for Society SM and most of the comments I made there apply here. I’ll just add a bit about the specifics of Fucking Dungeon here.
Fucking Dungeon is part of the five-site Dungeoncorp (aka Dungeon Bank) membership, and as such it offers excellent value. All the sites are BDSM themed, and most have a particular niche. This site offers women bound and then fucked. It’s a lot like Fucking Machines in the Kink.com group.
This is a large site that offers many different women. Many well-known porn stars participate, and some less well known women too. This isn’t a site that caters to one taste in body types, so while people like me who like petite, small-breasted women will have lots to enjoy, so will people who like fuller-figured and larger-breasted models.
My criticisms are relatively minor. One isn’t much of a criticism in that I’m really complaining that the site offers too much – but the fact is that the scenes can seem a bit repetitive. The other is that given the nature of the scenes – women in bondage getting fucked – it must be hard to coordinate the bondage with the camera angles. The result is that the women are often bound in positions that make camera work difficult. Again, this isn’t a serious criticism.
My last criticism is more of a personal taste. Many, maybe most would strongly disagree with me on this too, but I think the site could use a lot more anal play and anal sex. For a modern porn site in this anally-fixated porn world, and a BDSM site at that, this site bucks the trend and sticks mostly with good old-fashioned vaginal sex. If your definition of old-fashioned sex involves a tied-up woman, that is.
This is an excellent site and I’d recommend a membership even if this was all you got. Throw in the bonus of four other BDSM sites and this is a great value. If you like BDSM and haven’t had a membership to a Dungeoncorp (aka Dungeon Bank) site yet, get out your credit card and get busy.
Great review. I'm a big fan of this site too, and many others on the Kink network. Like you, I always cringe when I see their membership fees, but then I remember that this is innovative and very well done. Their overhead costs are also likely quite a bit higher than a studio that uses a couch in a living room. For me, I think while the actual cost is higher than normal, it still provides excellent value for the money spent.
Also, make sure to sign up for their email newsletter because they frequently give site discounts to subscribers. Also, the last time I was there when you had a membership at one site you got a discount on others so that helps too.
It's nice to see that they're up to their old tricks. I was a member there a long time ago and they were recycling then too. It's too bad because JM Productions had some of the best porn on the market. i really wish someone would restart the American Bukkake and American Gokkun series' again.
I sure hope someone answers and confirms that they have been upgrading the video. I was a member a couple of years ago and a lot of the quality was crap. I'd take a new membership pretty quick if someone could answer your question in the affirmative.
In 2011 having no zip option just doesn't make any sense. It woudn't be a deal breaker for me as pics are just an added bonus, but I still don't get not offering zips.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of a network (five sites in total)
- I only paid $13.95 when I joined through Jerkoff Zone (but read that review before you decide on whether this is a good way for you to join)
- Pics available
- Free Download Manager works well
- Updates (one scene per week)
- Streaming available
- Downloads available
- Supports download managers (no obvious time-out issues)
- Bills through CCBill
Cons:
- Not great value for the full membership price ($29.95)
- Low quality videos for newer uploads
- Very low quality videos for older uploads
- Scenes aren’t associated with the DVD title and number
- No zips for pics
- Only one video file option
- A lot of overlap with other JM Productions sites
- No search function
- Very basic layout
Bottom Line:
I joined this site because it was offered to me at a discount when I joined Jerkoff Zone. Both are from the porn studio JM Productions (JMP). I don’t know if this is a standard offer, but even at the discounted price the site isn’t a great value so I wouldn’t recommend paying full price.
If you’re not familiar with JMP or Gag Factor, think of Facial Abuse or Max Hardcore turned down to 9. It’s still very rough, but not as rough as Max or FA. The series uses well known porn models and face fucks them. There is lots of gagging, runny noses and eyes and general unpleasantness. At least the guys aren’t as misogynistic as the ones at Facial Abuse.
JMP made about 30 volumes of the Gag Factor series and most of those had about 10 scenes in them. The site has most of what was produced, with a total of just under 340 scenes. 29 of the scenes are BTS material. I can’t fault the site for lack of material (though I do wish JMP brought that thoroughness to other series’ offered online).
What I can fault JMP for is the lack of quality in the material. The newest scenes are posted in one version only – wmv at 640x480 and 2100kbps. This resolution has been available since February 2008, which means that about one-third of the scenes are in this ‘high’ res format. In 2008 this resolution wouldn’t have been impressive, and it certainly isn’t now. What that also means, then, is that two-thirds of the scenes are only available in resolutions lower than the ‘high res’ files now being offered. Many of the oldest scenes are available at 320x240 with 360kbps. By today’s standards, these are virtually unwatchable. I doubt that they were state-of-the-art when they were posted in 2003.
A lesser complaint is the very basic layout of the site. The main member page is one long page with all the scenes listed. You get basic information on the scene and one small thumbnail. You get the star name, number of pics in the set, length of the video and the date the scene was added. What you don’t get is the volume number from the series for those looking to catalogue the scenes that way. With each scene description there is a link that takes you to a separate page. From there you can see and download the pictures (no zips are available) and stream or download the video. More recent videos have only the option of downloading the full video, while older postings have that and the option to break it down into segments. There is no search function, but since the site itself is relatively small and the niche is narrow there really is no need for one.
The pictures aren’t stellar in quality with a resolution of 750x500. That holds for the oldest and newest pics on the site. The number of pics per scene varies but ranges between 20 and 70 with the average in the 50s.
A membership here gives you free access to four other JMP sites, but that isn’t obvious right away. From Gag Factor you get access to two sites, and it’s only when you go to one of those that you see access to two further sites. The extra sites are:
The additional sites don’t merit a full review each, but I will post some specific details as a comment on each site’s page here.
One problem with these sites is that there is some overlap with the main JMP site, Jerkoff Zone. The same scene may be posted twice but in vastly different qualities. But since the scenes aren’t easily associated with the DVD title and volume it is difficult to know this before you download anything. What that means is that you’ll likely download duplicates of several scenes and delete the lowest resolution.
I can’t fault the site for the quantity because it appears they’ve made a lot of their Gag Factor scenes available here. But as a stand-alone site 300 scenes isn’t a lot, and not worth $30. The bigger problem, as I noted in my review of Jerkoff Zone, is that the site just doesn’t live up to the standard that I expected from JMP. JMP stuff may not be for everyone, but what they do, they do it well. And the website doesn’t do it any justice.
This site, even with the add-ons isn’t a good value for the full price. It’s not a lot better at the discounted price either. So unless you’re a huge JMP fan and are looking for an obscure scene that you can’t get elsewhere, I’d stay away. It bothers me to say that too, because I like JMP and would love to see them offer a great product at a decent price that would allow them to continue making great product. Their intended market must be elsewhere, because they aren’t looking for it on the internet.
I'm a big fan of Hotmovies.com too. I have several VOD sites that I use regularly (Adult DVD Empire, Hotmovies.com, Download2Own, Sugar VOD, Gamelink and AEBN Theatre). Each of them has some benefits and some downsides too. I was planning to do a review of each of the ones that are listed here at PU to let possible users make an informed choice but I'm not sure that I can make the reviews different enough to warrant that many reviews. Some VOD sites are definitely better than others, but when there is a rare title that I want to see it usually comes down to finding which site has it. If multiple sites have it then it comes down to quality and price. I'm amazed that the price difference can be as much as it is sometimes. My experience is that Sugar VOD usually has the best price.
I wish I shared your enthusiasm for streaming. For me the collecting and keeping is important, especially when I'm finding older titles that I haven't seen for years. I'd like to be able to keep them DRM-free if they were available that way somewhere. The only reason that I'm not completely frustrated with VOD sites is that a lot of what I remember from my 'golden age' of porn in the mid 80s to the mid 90s was absloute crap. Yesterday I found a title I had been trying to remember for a couple of years. It was called "Backdoor to Harley-wood 2." When I finally remembered the title and found it (on Hotmovies) I streamed it and it occured to me that the movie was terrible. It's sort of like thinking about the early to mid-1970s as part of the muscle car era when Corvettes and Trans Ams had less horsepower than most family sedans today.
Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Large selection of DVDs, many not available on typical membership-type sites – TBP says there are near 17,000 DVDs
- Good, but not great, search function
- Wide variety of themes and niches available
- Excellent selection of “classic” porn (please note that I consider ‘classic’ to be 80s and 90s)
- Wide choice of how to access the DVD
Cons:
- This is not a traditional DVD porn site – it can get very expensive
- Poor value if compared against a DVD site like Videobox
- DRM on everything
- Not all download/stream options are available for all files
- Download speeds are okay, but slower than some competitors
Bottom Line:
Part of me figures that most PUs have no interest in VOD sites, but then the sensible part of me figures that several good ones exist so someone has to be using them, and maybe a lot of people are like me and can tolerate DRM to see some DVDs that aren’t available elsewhere. For many titles, a VOD site is the only way to get it online.
Gamelink is HUGE, like most VOD sites. TPB says that they have close to 17,000 titles available for some form of viewing. Some of those titles are only available for purchase through the mail, but those don’t appear to be too common.
The search function on Gamelink is good, but it isn’t as detailed as some competitors, like Adult DVD Empire. The feature that seems to be lacking is the ability to do a multi-layered search. You can do a search for Tammi Ann or a search for LBO Entertainment, for example, but you can’t search Tammi Ann in LBO titles only. Not a deal breaker…
One aspect of Gamelink that is both good and bad is that most DVDs have several options available for viewing. You can buy minutes based on a package, you can stream the videos, or you can download them for a set rental period – usually 7 and 30 days. The bad part of this is that not all titles have all options available. I found several titles that I wanted to see but these were only available through streaming. I’m not a fan of streaming so I avoid these if I can. For downloads, most are available as a WMP file, but some have an option of DivX. Some only offer DivX. The quality of the WMP downloads is decent, but certainly not HD. I can’t speak for the DivX quality because I refuse to download a file manager and player just for a couple of videos.
Download speeds are less than I’ve seen at other VOD sites, and are about 400kb/sec.
Pricing varies quite a bit, likely on supply and demand. A hot title is naturally going to command a higher price.
One thing that really bugs me about VOD sites (all of them, not just this one) is that they are inconsistent with formats and prices. I’m not certain, but my guess is that this is the studio’s fault and not the VOD site. I suspect that if these sites had the choice they’d make all titles available in all formats at a lower price. My guess is that if a studio only wants their material streamed and demands a high price, then the VOD site has little room to negotiate. It ends up being a bad deal for us PUs.
But… other people than me have to use VOD sites too otherwise they wouldn’t be here. I’m pretty anal about my porn collection (pun intended) and I like being able to find and watch titles from my personal ‘golden age’ of porn, from the mid 80s to the mid 90s. For all their faults (and for a collector there are a lot of those) VOD sites help fill a void. Gamelink is certainly one of the better VODs that I use regularly and if you’re looking for a must-see title from any era I’d recommend trying them.
It seems weird to have the guys run off after being caught. I agree with you that this seems almost anti-porn. It would be much better if the cameraman were to catch the action and then join in!
I'm sorry to hear that you've been burned by this site and/or biller. A lot of us have had that same issue. It sounds like you are lucky though that you used a pre-paid card and there isn't enough balance to cover another month.
A couple of months ago I joined three sites that all used Centrobill, the biller in question. Two of those sites (Jay's POV and Bruce and Morgan) had the same biller interface that was both easy to join and easy to cancel. I also joined German Goo Girls and I had the same experience that you did. They have since tried to charge me twice but my pre-paid card has no balance left on it and I planned it that way. Oddly, the last emails I got from them came from "Westbill."
The thing I don't understand is how is Centrobill good for the other two sites and so poor for the GGG membership? All of the complaints about Centrobill have been with memberships to GGG or 666 Bukkake so there must be some alliance between these (related) sites and the biller to screw over customers.
The good news is that it sounds like you are safe from further charges.
Good luck finding anything else on the internet that is like GGG or 666. I don't think anything like them exists anywhere else.
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