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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
exotics - I just thought of something else. If you're still a member there now and are willing to do this for me, please check the contract terms the next time you're there. You can access it at the bottom of the main page by clicking "Terms" and the contract comes up. Section VI is on "Membership" and paragraph E is on the download limit. (or you can just search 'download limit' and find it quickly too. It may be that you're even a memmber under a different contract. That makes no sense, but who knows? It might be possible.
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12-20-11 05:05pm
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12-20-11 04:55pm
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
This is really strange. You can exceed the maximum by a factor of six and I actually get shut down at 8GB one day. I really hope that the site staff answer my email. I think the questions I asked are fair. But maybe the answer might not be good for you - maybe they'll impose the limit on you too!
I have no idea if distance matters, but I doubt it. Besides, a porn buddy of mine who lives near me also reported that he had no daily limit. My theory was that it was new, but since you still have a membership and don't have a limit that scraps that theory too.
All I download are the wmv files. If HD is available I don't download it. I know there is some rule about "big" files but I don't know what they mean by big files. Does that apply to any file of any format that is over a certain size or does it refer to a particular format only? That would seem a bit odd to allow a member unlimited downloads for massive HD files but cap a guy with a slower connection who is downloading smaller files.
No matter how this turns out it really won't be that big a deal. I'm not out much, and I'd have to admit that after a month I'll have still had my money's worth. And honestly, I'm not all that impressed with the network. I'd like to think that's not just because they imposed a limit on me and some other but not on everyone, but most of the material is pretty cookie-cutter. And the video quality is nothing to get excited about either.
I think your theory about being allowed to accumulate 10GB days for a few days and then using them is interesting. That might just be possible. Arguing against that is once I hit the limit the screen I get says I've exceeded 10GB is a 24 hour period. It still seems like you and some other members are getting a better deal! I hope it continues for you!
If I ever do get a reply to my email I'll be sure to let everyone know what the terms of the limit actually mean.
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12-20-11 04:29pm
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
No answer yet... I think the questions I asked are reasonable and my tone was very respectful, so I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe the site's staff will provide some answers.
I did get unlock after 24 hours and appeared to have the full allotment again. But by "full allotment" I mean that I wasn't actually allowed to exceed 10GB. The first day I was allowed just over 9GB and the second day just over 8GB.
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12-20-11 04:17pm
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VideoBox
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elephant's Reply
elephant - that's how the pricing structure works for the first month. If you signed up for Kink at half-way through your first month of VB membership then you'd only pay half the price. If you decided to carry both memberships for subsequent months you'd pay the full charge. I've not seen this before either, but I have to admit that I really appreciate it. I just added Kink today and I'm working on a mini review with some stats that you might find useful. I'll post it as a comment on the VB site once I've finished writing it.
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12-20-11 04:14pm
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Reality Kings
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selphy's Reply
I did sign up, but at least thanks to the members here I knew what I was getting into.
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12-20-11 04:10pm
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Zellys
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Capn's Comment
100% agree that a decent tour is essential. I wouldn't buy a car from a catalogue and I'd be reluctant to open my wallet on the basis of a brief tour that dumps me into the 'join' page. The way I see it, if you're a webmaster and you're proud of your site then you'd want to show it off.
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12-19-11 02:29pm
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FTV Girls
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LePornoisseur's Reply
Is there still a bit of exhibitionism and public nudity in most of the sets? That was a big plus for me.
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12-18-11 01:11pm
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
On some sites, like Young Legal Porn and ALS Scan imposing such a low limit would mean you could only download a few scenes a day. I agree that with internet speeds and cost today a limit of 60-100GB per day would make more sense. 10GB (or 9 in my case...) doesn't make sense in 2011.
I realize that it is Sunday so I'm not looking for a reply to my questions today, but I do hope they reply and give some clear answers about a policy that is anything but clear. Exotics4me didn't have a cap, and another member here who doesn't post but who is a real-life porn buddy of mine said he never got locked out and downloaded 50+Gb per day.
I'm about 21 hours into being locked out so I'm interested to see what will happen in a few hours. If selphy is right, and I have no reason to think that he isn't, I won't get 10GB access right away but will get it back gradually. That will be a real piss-off.
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12-18-11 09:59am
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elephant's Reply
elephant - I haven't added the Kink channel yet. Because the price is pro-rated for your first month the price to join goes down each day. If I kept my VB membership for a second month then I'd pay full price for the second month. But since there are only a few scenes I really want from Kink I'll wait a few more days and then the value will make more sense.
I can't be 100% certain yet, but I don't think every Kink site has scenes on the Kink channel. I'm certain that none of the gay-themed sites have material there, but that makes sense since VB has a gay site and that may have a Kink channel too. I can say that Ultimate Surrender, The Training of O, Water Bondage, Kink Live and Public Disgrace are there for sure. I'm pretty sure there are some scenes from Everything Butt, Fucking Machines, The Upper Floor and TS Seduction. I'm less sure about scenes from Hogtied, Sex and Submission (but I am sure they have at least one - the one where Sasha Grey does her first bondage shoot - that's a great scene!), Bound Gang Bangs and Fucking Machines. I'm almost certain that there is nothing from Pissing, but that may be because it pushes the limits a bit too far for VB.
I'll probably add the Kink channel by the middle of the week and when I do I should be able to give you a much more definite answer about what's there. The thumbnails are too small for me to see the watermark, but I recognize many of the scenes so I'm fairly confident in the accuracy of the information I've given you above.
As for price, I think if you joined VB and then immediately joined Kink the price is $30. But remember that's pro-rated so the price drops. And once you have a VB membership you can see the Kink scenes so you can get an idea of when it makes sense for you to join. I've never been a member of Ultimate Surrender so I'm planning to wait until the price drops below $10 and then I'll download the dozen or so scenes from that site. If you wanted more then you'd have to gauge it on your download speed. VB allows download managers and the links don't seem to ever time out so that's a plus too. That's the same for the Evil Angel channel so I'm assuming it will be the same for Kink too. I'll let you know that too.
As for no ink and smaller breasts, those are what I look for too. I can't say for sure what proportion of models are ink-less and small-breasted, but I can say that I've never been dissatisfied so it didn't ever stand out as an issue for me. I suspect that whole alternative sexuality thing brings in some inked models, but there are lots who aren't.
I'll be sure to post a comment with more details on the Kink site when I join later this week.
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12-18-11 09:52am
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Reality Kings
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elephant's Reply
It is a big pain in the ass, but at least I knew about it when i joined. I'd be very pissed if I didn't know about it. I can even understand why a site might want to impose a limit, but 10GB per days seems awfully low. With a fiber op connection a member can hit that in an hour.
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12-18-11 07:40am
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FTV Girls
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LePornoisseur's Review
Great review - and welcome to PU.
Does FTV Girls still have their videos in segments rather than a full-length video? And if they do, so they start each segment with a 10 second title screen? Those were the two things that bugged me about them.
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12-18-11 05:46am
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Reality Kings
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exotics4me's Reply
exotics - I don't think what I'm downloading would qualify as 'big' files. They certainly aren't HD. I was working my way through the newer Captain Stabbin scenes and downloading the only wmv files there. Those are probably larger than the files intended for mobile device users, but they aren't 'big' by today's standards. It may be that you're treated differently because you're a former member. I'm a former member too but I don't think the network was called Reality Kings back when I was there last.
The clause in the terms of membership about the download limit has an awful lot of wiggle room in it for them. They're vague because they say they "may" impose a limit of 10GB per day and up to 15 "big" files. I have no idea what that means. They're also a bit vague on when you get privileges back. I emailed them and asked several questions about what they mean. I was polite and respectful but was looking to have some of the terms clarified. I'll have to admit that sending them an email is also a bit of a test since I think the chances of them actually responding to me are about zero. I suspect that RK is just another faceless mega site with no interest in customer service. But if I'm wrong I'll certainly retract that. And if I get some clarification on how they impose the limit (and on who) I'll report that here for future members.
To top all of this off, I do have to admit to being a little ticked that I got kicked off at just over 9GB when the limit wasn't even triggered. That's a definite breach of the contract on their part.
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12-18-11 05:42am
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Reality Kings
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12-17-11 11:02am
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Reality Kings
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slategrey's Comment
I just took out a membership here today and I can't get Free Download Manager to work. I can't say with other managers, but my guess is that if they block one they block them all.
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12-17-11 10:57am
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Denner's Reply
"BTW: We've got a lot to thank Larry Flynt for...."
I can't stand Larry Flynt. He seems like a massive asshole. But I agree 100% with your comment that we owe him a lot. And not just those of us who like porn. He pushed freedom of speech for everyone. And the fact that he took Jerry Falwell down a peg or two didn't hurt either.
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12-16-11 07:52am
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Cybertoad's Poll
I suspect that in five years things will be pretty much the same. Christian religious fundamentalism in Western countries seems to punch well above its weight in terms of having more influence than their numbers would actually support so I can't see them actually influencing morality laws more. In some European countries that are more liberalized there may be more of a tendency to pacify Islamic fundamentalists by making porn laws more strict. Maybe some European PU members can share some thoughts on that.
One significant change in the past 30 years in the U.S. and Canada was that back 30 years ago even strict religious people never had an interest in imposing their values on others. That's certainly changed. It's as if they realized that knocking on doors trying to convert people to Christ was taking too long so they said "fuck it, we'll just take over government and impose Jesus on everyone."
But I think the real influence on morality issues will not be religious folks, but soccer moms. Of both genders. I'll take a room full of fundies any day over a handful of pissed-off soccer moms. Soccer moms have a huge voice in North American culture and they're excercising that to our detriment too. Take the rise of bullying. Sure, a lot of it is media hype, but I'm convinced that much of it is the result of raising kids to think that they are so special and superior to everyone else that they have some right to lord it over others. Most of the important lessons I've learned in life have been the result of big fuck up that teaches me something new. It appears that kids now are being protected from failure.
Anyway... I guess this turned into a bit of a rant... sorry.
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12-16-11 07:50am
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VideoBox
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slutty's Reply
I've decided to take exotics' advice and not join the RK channel. I also based that on the advice of a friend (and PU lurker) who said he never experienced a download limit. His and exotics' experiences were the same, but I'm not going to count on that. But the fact that the RK channel isn't well organized and there is no search function I'll just join RK.
I'm still planning to join the Kink channel when the pro-rated price drops so I can sample some material from sites I've not had a membership to.
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12-15-11 09:00am
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Ivana Fukalot
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Trip999's Reply
I'm sure you'll be as happy with your choice as both elephant and I were. I'll look forward to your comments and a review.
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12-14-11 12:49pm
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VideoBox
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slutty's Reply
slutty - I think I might have an answer for you and it isn't because RK is only available through VB3. I went to VB using my iPad which doesn't have a VB cookie on and I noticed that the RK site doesn't show up. So I went to my PC and cleared the cache and went to VB and the RK channel is nowhere to be found. Then I logged in and it was there. That seems to be the answer, but I can't give you any thoughts on why they do it that way. It seems strange to me. I think the only logical explanation is that it's an oversight or an error. I can't imagine that VB and RK actually want to hide the fact that you can pay extra and get access to some RK scenes.
This certainly won't solve the problem that you can't see the RK channel, but at least you'll know why you can't see it.
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12-14-11 09:16am
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VideoBox
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Reply of
Denner's Reply
Thanks for the comments Denner. There still isn't a lot of HD material being added, but it is there. One big advantage to VB is that they let you tour through the entire site so you can make an informed decision on whether you want to join or not. They stress quantity over quality but are still an impressive site.
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12-13-11 09:19am
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VideoBox
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Reply of
exotics4me's Reply
I'm not sure what to do about the RK channel, but I think I'll sign up in my last week just to take a look. I figure that will be fairly risk-free. I'd like to join RK again but I'm a little gun-shy with the reports of the download limit. I did confirm in their terms of use that they do impose a daily limit of 10GB, but it sounds like it can be arbitrary. I once had a membership to a site with a limit and it wouldn't unlock the whole day's quota at once but would do so as your quota freed up. What that really meant for me was that I could only go to the site every two days. It sounds like RK may be using that kind of system. But with the pro-rated membership on the VB channel I can limit my risk. If I really like what I see then I may take the RK plunge anyway. Maybe the limit is somehow linked to HD material only as you suggest.
The Kink channel is a definite for me. I regularly get memberships at several Kink sites but one that has intrigued me that I've never taken the plunge on is Ultimate Surrender. I'm figuring that with the pro-rated prices I can go in late in my membership and download the dozen or so Ultimate Surrender scenes on the channel. That will limit my risk if I don't really like them.
One complaint about both Reality Kings and Kink (but not with Evil Angel or Vivid which were added before VB3 was rolled out) is that the scenes aren't associated with any of the Kink or RK sites. Some may ask why that's a big deal, but if you're looking for some particular themed material it is harder to find than it needs to be. Ultimate Surrender has a distinct look with the set they use, but most Kink scenes are dark to set an atmosphere. But is that dark thumbnail a scene from The Training of O or from Sex and Submission? You'll have some work to do to find out. It's essentially the same for RK - you can't easily tell which site from the RK network the scene is from. Most might not care, but some of us do. Also with the new channels (Kink and RK) there is no way to add scenes to your favorites once you do decide that you want to see it. You either remember the details or you download/stream it right away.
Evil Angel and Vivid were added before VB3 went live and they have a much more user-friendly model.
If there is anything worth noting when I add both Kink and RK I'll leave a comment here on the specific issue, good or bad.
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12-13-11 09:17am
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VideoBox
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slutty's Reply
Slutty - I'm not sure why you're not seeing the RK channel but a possibility is that you're in the "old" VB site rather than in VB3. I prefer the old site so I download all the stuff I want from VB through that, but the only 'channels' you can even see on the old site are Evil Angel and Vivid. You have to go to VB3 to see Kink and Reality Kings.
The RK channel appears to have started on October 28, 2010, so it isn't new. They seem to add a scene per day too.
I'm hoping that the answer is that you can only even see it through VB3 because if that isn't the answer I'm not sure what the solution could be.
I haven't joined the RK channel yet but I plan to when I have some to go through it. One complaint, and this may be entirely subjective, is that it doesn't appear that the scenes are associated with any of the RK sites. I'd like to see some newer Captain Stabbin and VIP Crew stuff, for example, but I can't find any way to sort it by RK site.
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12-13-11 08:58am
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Skinny Super Girl
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elephant's Review
Great review, elephant. Gloria is a stunning young woman and doesn't have that typical porn look. You're right to say she looks like a runway model!
When I was a member about six weeks ago there were no girl/girl shoots of Gloria but the webmaster said that there likely would be in the future. Are there any now? There looks like there might be a really softcore one. Can you confirm that?
I'm also glad to see that the site is using the same photo on the main page where she's laying on a bed on her stomach and seductively glancing back at the camera. That is one of my favourite photos ever. It captures both Gloria's incredible beauty and the cameraman's ability to capture it. Both are essential ingredients to this near-perfect site.
If anyone is interested in joining SSG I'd strongly recommend that you do it through Young Legal Porn and pay the additional fee for the full access. If you only buy SSG then you leave too much of Gloria's material inaccessible on Young Legal Porn and 18 Only Girls.
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12-11-11 05:30pm
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Mike Adriano
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elephant's Reply
FYI - I added the Evil Angel channel at Videobox and there isn't a lot of overlap between the three sites. That good because it makes them all valuable, but bad because you have to get three site memberships (four if you count Videobox) to get all the Evil Angel material on the internet. You can see everything on offer without joining so if you're a big Evil Angel fan I'd recommend checking it out.
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12-11-11 05:18pm
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