I find that I generally don't rely on a raw number score that a lot of sites give, including TBP and our own reviews here. With TBP and the detailed reviews here I much prefer an explanation about the site. I figure that I might score a site low just because I don't like a particular niche but another PU member might score it high because they do like that niche. I try to remain objective in assigning a score. I've reviewed sites that I really didn't like but that had high-quality videos and pictures, decent download speeds and were well laid out. I still scored them high because they were good sites regardless of the fact that I didn't personally like the material.
And I agree - PU is a great place to hang out. This is probably among the most civil user-driven sites on the internet!
Thank you Sir! The rules here require that I try to give a balanced and measured review and I agree with those requirements. But it was hard to find anything good to say about this network. In that case I just make sure to document and justify my criticisms.
I've been a member at Teasers VOD twice and highly recommend them. For me I prefer certain elements in public nudity: 1) stars I know, 2) U.S. settings and 3) not too much editing. The reason for 2 and 3 is because I think a huge part of the allure for these sites is how nervous the model is, and a model in Budapest is likely to be less nervous than a model in Los Angeles just because in the U.S. the risks are higher. Teasers has all three of these elements. But there is one warning - if you want to join Teasers I recommend that you do it soon. They've stopped updating due to a cease-and-desist order from the City of Los Angeles. There is still a lot of material though that makes the $30 fee an excellent value. Part of the reason I recommend joing now is that another site, Nude in L.A., shut down completely. That site had my #1 and 2 requirements but the shoots were edited in such a way that the nervousness was gone so the shoots lost a lot of 'heat.'
Another choice is ALS Scan. They haven't done any public nudity stuff in several years, and admittedly they did shoot that in Europe, but some of the shoots are great. I especially like the shoot with Ashley Bulgari - she is SO nervous. It's a fun shoot to watch. ALS Scan isn't a public nudity site, so I wouldn't suggest that you join just for the public stuff, but ALS Scan is one of the best porn sites on the 'net so the public stuff is just icing on the cake.
Public Flash is also good, It has my #1 and 2 preferences but can be a little more tame with usually just flashing rather than full nudity.
FTV Girls usually has some public stuff in each scene, and some of them can be pretty daring, but they're usually more tame than Teasers.
There's also Public Disgrace. This site is in a league of its own in combining BDSM, public nudity and public sex. If you're looking for degradation and humiliation (but with full consent) along with the public nudity I'd definitely try this one.
I've reviewed all of the sites I've recommended so you can get more details there. I've also reviewed a few I didn't like too so that may be of some use to you too.
I always go straight to VB2 to avoid a lot of the gimmicks in VB3. My concern about this is that it would probably hog a lot of bandwidth for stuff you likely don't want to see. Is that the case?
Thanks for the comments, BadMrFrosty. I walked into this disaster with my eyes wide open so I can't blame anyone but myself. This network could really have been a home run with some of the themes they have, but they really fail to deliver. I'm sure developing and running a good porn website is difficult, but that's why you hire people who know the technical stuff. But since they appear to have been around for years I'd guess that they don't intend to change, and they don't rely on repeat business.
Thanks for the comments, gaypornlover. This was clearly my own fault given that there weren't many positive comments about the site from anyone. I got burned, but I don't feel too bad since I knew that I was likely to get burned. I had a recent experience where I signed up for a site expecting to be able to download scenes and learned it was streaming only. That site, including the Terms of Service, was pretty vague so I did feel cheated there.
I'd guess that a serious disadvantage that you have, as one of the few gay PU members, is that you're breaking the trail more than the rest of us. For most of the sites I've joined some other PU member has likely been there before. I probably haven't said this loudly enough, but I'm glad you stick around and contribute as much as you do. I may not have any personal interest in the sites you review (but I always read them!), but I am interested in your perspective and you write excellent reviews that will form a great basis for new gay members as they join PU.
It's odd that they'd use a tiered price structure that creates a dis-incentive for new people to join. I heard an interview on a canadian radio program with the site owner's lawyer. At that time they were one of the few websites that were actively going after pirates, and one of the messages i got was that Lightspeed and other smaller sites are really being hit hard by piracy. The cruel irony of most anti-piracy prevention measures is that it likely only hurst the paying customers who support the site and would never post the material on a torrent or tube site.
I’m a huge fan of public nudity and was pleasantly surprised to see this site since it is actually a rare site in a rare niche. This site features well-known American porn stars doing some relatively risky public nudity.
The site has 18 scenes with some well known models doing public nudity in the Los Angeles area. Stars such as Taylor Rain, Gen Padova, Violet Blue, Courtney Simpson and Desire Moore make appearances. There is public nudity in some relatively secure-but-still-public areas and most scenes also include the model performing oral sex on one of the guys. The site no longer updates and the newest scenes are likely from 2005 to maybe 2007. This, unfortunately, is where the good news ends.
I find that public nudity sites can be hit or miss. I realize this is subjective but some sites manage to remove all the tease and risk from public nudity, thereby turning the heat way down too. Such is the case here, but the heat gets further turned down by the fact that the cameraman is clearly an amateur – the camera work is jerky to the point that if you have a weak stomach you might want to avoid these videos. To make matters worse, the models are often filmed while standing in the shadows so lighting becomes a serious flaw. To top it all off, the editing can be pretty bad too with too many potentially interesting bits obviously cut out.
But it gets worse… assuming the videos were shot several years ago and realizing that technology continues to advance, then even by the standards of the year these were shot they are well below the norm. The videos come in at just 320x240 at 330kb/s and only 8fps. Surely these specs were state of the art more than a decade ago. The low resolutions combined with the jerky camera work make a lot of the scenes essentially unwatchable.
And continuing on our cavalcade of crap, the scenes are only offered as clips with no option to download the entire scene as one complete video. The only potential good news is that by offering clips only you might not realize that the download speeds are up to a decades-old standard too. I haven’t seen download speeds this slow in years. The average speed I got was about 130kb/s. That’s KILOBYTES, not megabytes. I saw speeds drift down to double digits frequently.
I always try to find something positive about any site I join, but there’s really nothing good to say about this site. The one possible positive – big-name American porn models doing public nudity in Los Angeles – is vastly overshadowed by poor camera work, poor lighting, poor editing, abysmal download speeds and the lack of full-video availability.
The last possible positive also falls flat: this could have just been a bad site in an otherwise good network, but the rest of the network (Hush Pass) isn’t much better. So even if you’re a big fan of public nudity like I am, trust me on this: don’t bother joining this network.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Site updates by adding one scene every three or four days
- Offers streaming and (some) downloads
- Pictures offered
Cons:
- All videos, even new ones, are broken down into clips
- Slow download speeds
- Older videos would have been low resolution even when they were filmed
- Navigation is strange
- Not all scenes can be downloaded, just streamed
- Website design is poor
- No search function
- No independent biller
Bottom Line:
I realize that I can be correctly chastised by the members here for joining a site that is almost universally panned by reviewers. And the only review that graded the site fairly high was short on detail and long on subjectivity. But given that I’m on a public nudity kick lately and this network has a public nudity site I figured that it couldn’t be THAT bad. This network might just be the worst I’ve ever joined.
The network is a collection of 20 unrelated sites that cover most of the usual porn niches with some emphasis on interracial scenes. Apart from the public nudity site I was also looking for access to several sites that feature ‘parties’ like Frat House Fuck Fest and Bachelor Party Fuck Fest. The odd thing about the site is that at first glance it looks fairly well designed. It looks like many other decent networks, but when you start actually using the site you soon realize that there are serious design flaws.
Some readers may question this approach, but I will admit that I’m reviewing this site after downloading and viewing very little of what’s available. I’d normally download and view a lot of scenes from a site before giving an opinion of it, but in this case while there are definitely scenes I’d like to see it isn’t worth the time or hard drive space to have them. All of the videos on the site are available only as clips. Even the newest videos don’t offer a full video option. I can understand why this was done in 2002, but in 2012 it is a very rare person who’s internet speed dictates getting clips. To make matters worse, while the specs on the newest scenes seem reasonable, the videos actually look blocky and pixilated. Add to that that the cameraman can’t hold the camera steady and that movement causes the pixilation to seem worse. The videos are difficult to watch. The newest videos come only as WMVs and are 720x480 at 1700kb/s and 30fps. I don’t understand how all the tech stuff is inter-related, but subjectively these videos look terrible.
For older videos things are worse. I joined specifically to get access to Butt Naked in the Streets and was sorely disappointed in that. It’s rare to have a public nudity site featuring well-known American porn models in an American city so I had high hopes. Unfortunately the older videos come in at just 320x240 at 330kb/s and only 8fps. I’m confident in saying that when these were uploaded several years ago they weren’t even close to being up to industry standards then, so in 2012 they look truly awful.
Download speeds are also well below what I’m used to with modern sites. I don’t know if the older files are on a different server, but the older files I downloaded came in at speeds I haven’t had to endure in years. The average speed I got was about 130kb/s. That’s KILOBYTES! I saw speeds drift down to double digits frequently. Things were a little better with the newer files, with the average speed around 3MB/s. That’s about half the speed I’m used to with other sites.
I’m not sure why, but many of the scenes can’t be downloaded, they can only be streamed.
There doesn’t appear to be any kind of search function at all. No tags either, so you just have to sort through the individual sites.
The network does update with one scene being added every three days.
The site has no independent biller. I cancelled my membership just hours after joining. Cancelling seemed easy and I got a confirmation email but I’ll be watching for additional billing in the future since one commenter had a problem.
The site navigation is strange and difficult to use. Selecting a site on the network brings up a window within your browser. Not a new window or a tab, but this ‘floating’ thing that is superimposed over the main page. You need to scroll through it but its too easy to accidently scroll on the main page which then moves the floating widow out of your view. And too frequently I clicked my browser’s ‘back’ button instead of closing the floating window, thereby kicking myself back to the login screen. This method seems to be an attempt to be innovative but it doesn’t work and just seems gimmicky.
Thanks to TBP and PU I rarely get burned in a membership and had I trusted the members here more I’d have avoided this disaster. I’ve been on a public nudity kick recently and having access to the public nudity site seemed to justify the risk but it didn’t pay off. The best I can hope for now is that someone may read this and the other reviews and avoid this network. The porn here is actually pretty good, but it is so poorly shot and accessing it is so difficult that it doesn’t make a membership worthwhile. I am definitely NOT recommending this network. The disappointing thing is that the themes on many of the sites are pretty good. The guys who hire the talent and think up the themes should fire the cameraman, editor and webmaster and start over.
I checked their FAQs and they still talk about downloads, but only in the context of not allowing download managers. If they've changed the site to eliminate downloads they really need to be upfront about that.
I suspect that this is a much bigger issue with European and Russian, etc. models than it is with U.S models, but I try to stick to the old name. The one case I can think of where an American model was ordered to change her name was Violet Blue who was sued by another Violet Blue. Our Violet Blue became Noname Jane. The strange thing about that is that the porn Violet Blue was/is probably a lot better known that some second-rate 'journalist' hack.
Interesting review. I'm a huge Kink fan too and have a couple of memberships on the go now as well. This is one of the Kink sites that intrigued me but that I've never taken the plunge and joined because I'm not certain if I'd like it. What I did a while back was when I had a Videobox membership I waited until the last days of my monthly membership and joined the Kink Channel for the pro-rated price and downloaded all the Ultimate Surrender stuff there. I'm glad I did it that way, because while this site brings all the usual high-quality aspects that Kink is known for, the niche just isn't for me.
I agree with your negative comments about Kink, but I assess them differently, I guess. The site navigation is basic on all their sites, but given that each site is such a narrow niche I don't find that an issue.
One thing I definitely agree with you on is the need for a zip file for ALL the photos in a set. I don't download photos much, but Kink's approach needs to be rethought.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Large site with access to a lot of Wicked’s catalogue
- Most files have at least two download options
- Later files have 720p and some even offer 1080p
- Contract girls (get access to a lot of material from the contract girls)
- Easy to download complete movies
- Supports download managers
- TBP Discount
Cons:
- No tags for scenes
- Small scene thumbnails on main movie page
- Only one file format offered (mp4)
- A lot of silicone
- All condoms, all the time (neutral, really…)
Bottom Line:
Wicked Pictures is a studio that I’ve liked for years but never really downloaded much of their stuff. To make matters more difficult, there are two sites that are either operated by or affiliated with Wicked. Obviously the technical information in this review only applies to this site.
I started watching porn in the mid-1980s when Gonzo had yet to be invented. Most porn that could be rented in those days followed a fairly standard pattern: studios had a few contract models, the movies involved acting and had a plot. And there seemed to be a rule that every movie needed a lesbian scene. Wicked still subscribes to this formula for many of their movies, even the newer ones. This is neither good nor bad, but only to give you a sense of what you’ll have access to.
At any given time Wicked has several models working on contract. There are pros and cons to this since if you like a model but don’t like Wicked’s style then you’re out of luck. If you don’t like a particular model you’ll end up seeing a lot more of her than you’d prefer, but on the other hand if you do like a specific model you’ll have access to a lot of her work. I found several models that I really like had been Wicked contract girls so this site gave me a great opportunity to get some scenes I didn’t have.
If there could be a “Wicked Girl” look, that look tends to be to the bigger-breasted women, many of whom are artificially enhanced. But as a fan of small breasts on petite women there was plenty to keep me happy too.
On another neutral note (for me, though it could be a pro or con for others) Wicked’s policy is for condoms in all scenes except for oral. The guys still pull them off for the money shot though.
The site is fairly large, offering 577 DVDs. These range from DVDs released in the early 1990s to newer releases.
Navigation is fairly straightforward: you can sort the site using scenes or DVDs, and you can go to specific models. After that any sorting or searching begins to fall apart. Each movies has tags applied to it, but those tags aren’t searchable and don’t seem to have any impact on the search function either. For example, I searched the term ‘anal’ and got many anal scenes, but I certainly didn’t get all the anal scenes with that search. They really need to have a better search function.
When you open a DVD page there is a large screen at the top of the page where the movie can be streamed. There are a list of tags and performers, and then vertically down the right side of the page there are small thumbnails for each scene. The good news is that you can download the entire video very easily. The bad news is that if all you want are scenes this can be more confusing. Once you open a page for a specific scene the only information available is the female model’s name. There are no tags on these pages to give any indication as to what’s in the scene – just who. I downloaded scenes that I normally wouldn’t have because the only information I had was female talent. For example, if I went to movie XYZ I could see that the ‘anal’ tag is there so there is anal in the movie, but site doesn’t tell me which scene has anal. I even downloaded what I though were b/g scenes that were actually lesbian.
Viewing the scenes is easy. There is a streaming option right on the page (which doesn’t download or play automatically – full marks for that!). Downloading the scenes is easy using a drop-down menu to select the available resolutions. I give the site credit for making good quality uploads available. Obviously the older material won’t look as good, but on the newer material options are available. While not all options are available on all scenes, the possibilities are: DVD, 720p, 1080p and iPod. I’d normally have selected the 720p but I found that the DVD quality was quite good so I chose that – and saved some disk space too. One caveat: the files are only available as mp4. No other options are available. The DVD files come in at 720x400 @ 800+ kb/s and 24fps. They look better than the specs suggest, and the HD stuff looks excellent.
Download managers are supported with no obvious timeouts. Download speeds were up to usual standards for similar sites.
The site does update by (apparently) adding one DVD a week. The schedule isn’t easy to determine because they only use a “release” date which with older titles is clearly the date the original movie was released (it certainly wasn’t added to the site in 1993) and with more recently added titles seems to be the date it was uploaded to the site.
The bottom line is that while the site has some flaws, I’d still recommend it. Wicked isn’t cookie-cutter porn like so many other studios. The material is great, I only wish the site did that material justice. And with the TBP/PU discount, the site is a good value.
It depends on the scene. In a fairly soft scene I like the model's eyes to be accentuated but not pronounced. But in a real ball-busting hardcore scene I'm a big fan of dark eye makeup.
Yes, online porn memberships is excellent value when compared with other ways of getting porn and with most other means of entertainment too. Movies, concerts, dining out all cost a lot. Golf too. And if your entertainment involves burning fuel, boating, trailering, avaition, etc., then online porn is still an excellent value.
Too bad we can't discuss our hobby in the same way everyone else does...
I think we're mostly in agreement. I have to have the sound off a lot of times for 'strategic' reasons. But when I am able to listen to the sound too I prefer no music at all. I'm so used to no music in much of what I watch that it seems obtrusive when it is there - even if it is subtle.
One possible exception is the original music that X-Art uses. I don't necessarily like it, but I will admit that it adds to the mood that the site is trying to create.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Among the best Public Nudity sites on the ‘net
- Many well-known porn stars
- Simple and effective site design
- Good lighting and editing
- Multiple formats available
- Videos and photos available
- Very daring
Cons:
- Forced to stop updating
- Photos seem to be a bit of an afterthought
Bottom Line:
This is my second review of this site. I returned to it to see what was new and to download the videos and photos that were uploaded since I was last a member. I expected some changes, but one of the changes that I found was definitely a negative. I’ll get that one huge, negative change out of the way first: the site is no longer updating and hasn’t updated since early November of 2011. According to the news posted on the site the owners didn’t make this decision, rather it was forced on them through a cease-and-desist order from the City of Los Angeles. (As an aside, I see that a similar site, Nude in L.A. doesn’t even exist now. They were a decent site in that they were more daring than most, but also managed to strip out a lot of titillation – pun not intended. So full marks to the guys at Teasers who are still keeping the site alive.)
The other significant change was just starting as I wrote my last review. At the time of that review they had only posted two scenes with the new format so I wasn’t in a position to do much more than simply note the change. The site now has 13 shoots with the new format. The old format consisted of breaking a model’s scene down into various parts and labeling those parts accordingly. The new format seemed to be an attempt to create a quasi-reality-show feel to shoots. They are still on the Teasers site, but they’re in a separate tab. They’re branded as “Real Girls of Porn Valley.” I’m not opposed to the new format (with one major exception being that there is an opening screen on each segment) but apart from the labeling of the shoot, and of the individual scenes, there really isn’t much of a change, and there certainly isn’t any major improvement over the older format. If there is a positive, and this is subjective, it is that the scenes seem to push the limits a bit more under the new format. Because that tends to be model-specific that could just be luck though. (I suspect that some of the more daring shoots are what caused the City’s legal response. Seeing Jennifer White standing naked in front of my house certainly wouldn’t cause me to complain, but I’m probably not a good example in this case…)
The format for both the older and newer shoots follows a bit of a formula. Most shoots follow the formula. The model is filmed as she tries on outfits and we see her changing; there is usually a scene with the model in a short skirt or dress and the camera follows her around in public areas as she flashes. There is a scene in each shoot where the model parades around in a skimpy bikini. There are also two or three clips of the model at a café (usually outdoor) where she is interviewed and asked to remove some clothing. Finally, there is usually a clip where the model is in a secluded, but still public, location where she strips nude and masturbates. In many shoots there is bonus material of the model masturbating back at the photographer’s house. In the public scenes people and cars can be seen going by. This is subjective, but I really like that the site usually doesn’t edit out the interaction between the model and the guys filming.
The models are the site’s main asset. There are many big porn stars here, and seeing them in the wild can be pretty interesting. Alexis Texas, Eden Adams and Katie St. Ives, among many other big names, have scenes here. If there is one downside to having such a model-centred site it is that the heat of the scene is really up to the model: if the model is daring and adventurous the shoot will be more fun to watch than if the model is shy and reserved. But a huge advantage to this is that this is one of the few public nudity sites that does show the models being nervous.
The technical stuff hasn’t changed since I last reviewed the site, except now there are now more scenes posted. There has been some new BTS material added too. The videos are available as WMVs (resolution depends on when they were added but maxes out at to 960x540 @ 3000 kb/s). MP4 videos are available in high and low resolution.
Photos are available, as singles and zips at 800x1200 but the main thrust of the site are the videos.
Some readers will disagree with my position that a site that no longer updates still has lots of value. This is subjective, but given that this site does contain a lot of material, serves a rare niche (American public nudity), and that political authorities seem to be closing in on that niche, I think the site is an exceptional value. The way these guys shoot their scenes puts them in the top few public nudity sites, and maybe even the best out there. Given that the site is under attack and others have closed, if you have any interest in this genre my advice is to join now before they disappear.
One possibility is that it will probably be out on VOD before it gets onto a DRM-free site so we can at least rent a VOD for a couple of days to see the scene. I know a lot of people don't like VOD sites, but for times like this they can work well.
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