Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ Realistic, pretty hardcore spanking
+ The straight guys seem genuinely straight to me
+ Fair amount of verbal in the videos, which I love
+ No DRM used
+ Sleazy, amateur feel unusual in a US site
+ Uses CCBill
+ Generally sexy models
+ Lives up to basic theme/promise of site
Cons:
- Expensive
- Recurring billing
- Seems to use regional billing - see below
- Updates only once a week
- Updates may only be part-scenes
- Video quality variable, average at best
- Audio quality also variable and average at best
- Not everything promised in the description
actually happens in the videos
- Very little sexual action - some masturbation only and that's in a minority of scenes
- Fussy, intrusive log-in system
- Streaming seems slow with lots of buffering.
Bottom Line:
The theme behind Reluctant Young Men is in the title - the men are there purely to earn money, do not enjoy being spanked, and have reluctantly agreed to do it for cash only. This in general seems to hold true - many of the models are belivably straight, and even the gay ones sometimes seem reluctant to do it. A minority of the videos do seem to show guys who are perhaps a bit more into it, but the spankings are hard and real and there's no acting here.
The video quality is variable and never goes above average - you can see it's an "amateur" site. The downloads are WMV, but I found the streamingly frustratingly slow - constant buffering meant long waits and gaps between scenes. Videos are 720x480 in WMV format. Photos are just sets of videocaps, with no zip files to download. The audio is only average too - audible but a bit muffled which is a shame as audio is important on a spanking site. Very much amateur production values here - sexy, but there's a trade off in quality.
The theme rarely changes - the majority of spankings are over-the-knee though a good range of implements are used. There's usually a reason given in the description as to why the guy is being spanked - turned up late for a shoot, didn't return calls etc. and sometimes other guys are brought in as witnesses.
The spanker is usually one older, chunky guy who isn't conventionally gorgeous but suits the role of a firm disciplining older male figure. He remains clothed throughout and is good at verbally humiliating the guys and reminding them that they are being paid by the viewers so to ensure we get a good look at his spanked ass etc. Sometimes if the guys cry and get remorseful he rubs some cream on their butts and gives them a hug to comfort them. Very occasionally he wanks them off too - but sadly this is rare.
I'd have preferred more of the comforting and and masturbating and maybe some more sexual contact at the end too. The site is very focused on spanking and it does it well, but sometimes you feel you'd like more variety in the guys both spanked and spanking, and maybe some costumes, different outfits and sceanrios to spice things up - the same format can quickly get a little repetitive.
The site is a pricey $34.95 a month on recurring billing - and when I paid it converted it straight to £25.83 which according to xe.com is actually $42.71 in US dollars, meaning they added several dollars on to an already price subscription for me in the UK. Thankfully it's CCBill so it was easy for me to cancel the recurring subscription.
The log-in system is frustrating - you have to log in with your username and password every time, it won't allow you to stay logged in - and you have to re-login before you watch or download each video - and if you forget to check the "remember me" box each and every time, it will forget you on the next video, even in the same session.
Most frustrating about the site was the lack of some things promised in the description - sometime it promised a guy would be rubbed and hugged at the end but he wasn't, and one guy was supposed to have been kept in a chastity device and was about to be masturbated for the first time in a month - but they didn't even show the chastity device or it coming off, which ruined the whole point of the scene.
This is a pretty hardcore spanking site and it does show real, fairly serious spanking with no acting so if you're a spanking purist, you'll probably like it. The verbal descriptions are sexy and there are some horny little twists, but overall for me there was too much promised and not delivered on, the quality wasn't good enough, the variety wasn't there and it wasn't sexy enough. For the very expensive price, these failings were a little too much to forgive. If you adore hardcore, pure spanking it might just be worth it, but personally I won't be re-joining.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ Low(ish) monthly price
+ Lots of extra bonus material
+ Latest Rob and Jill scenes are a decent size
+ Fairly unique theme with a real married couple
+ Very creative variations on a theme
+ Bills with CCBill
+ Lots of videos going back a long time.
Cons:
- Site is messy and very difficult to navigate
- Site looks poor - very basic design, lots of misspelt words
- Most videos only available in one of several file types and size/quality
- Regional pricing, which isn't made clear (I was charged the equivalent of $20.26 rather than $17.95)
- Not all videos are available to stream - those that are, are in a completely different section
- Main content gets samey - there's only so much variation you can fit into a single concept & one couple
- Not all videos are as described.
- Some extra material doesn't really fit in with theme of site, doesn't seem to be exclusive and is poor quality.
- Download managers are forbidden from the site.
Bottom Line:
I do want to say that I do understand that this is an amateur site, and I did try and take that somewhat into account when I wrote my review - but they do still charge for it, and whilst it's still at the cheaper end of the market, a recent price increase, and extra charges for non-Americans thanks to regional billing, it's creeping to the territory of much more professional sites.
I also do understand that as a gay man the site is not really aimed at me, but I joined it because I do enjoy other CFNM/Femdom sites. I feel bad giving this site a low score for these reason, but I have tried to be fair and my score reflects the above factors.
Rob and Jill is an amateur site run by a real-life married couple. The theme of the site is her controlling when and how Rob is allowed to ejaculate, mainly via handjobs. Jill comes up with a massive variety of games and scenarios for them to act out, including gameshows, chastity, all sorts of devices, "ruined" (minimised) orgasms, etc. I find Rob very attractive, and the site has been going for so long that there's a LOT of videos.
Jill is very good at acting out the scenes and gives lots of verbal commands to Rob, but also describes what she's doing for her audience very well. She likes to instruct other wives and husbands in the best techniques for this kind of sexual lifestyle. Rob puts up with it all stoically, rarely speaking but obviously enjoys every moment of it.
There's also a fair amount of bonus material of very variable quality - the best is user-submitted by other femdom women, the rest seems to be fairly generic, non-exclusive and low-quality porn.
Rob and Jill make a great and sexy couple and the scenarios are very creative. They've made a unique site and it's a privilege to share their intimate life.
However it's just so sad the way the site itself is, as it really lets things down. Only the latest material offers video which is of a high enough resolution and quality to be worth watching - and this is from someone who isn't fussy about demanding hi-def resolution or glossy production values.
Until recently the videos were so small in size and resolution that's it's just a small image in the middle of your screen - it's just barely worth watching. The videos are presented in at least 4 formats - WMV, RN (RealPlayer), MPEG, AVI. However there is no consistently at all - each movie is generally only available as one file type and it's completely random which one you'll get for each video. Most of the videos are low resolution. I found the sound quality often poor too. The last few update videos are much better - she seems to have settled on WMV files in a larger format.
The site layout is overwhelming when you first join but whilst you get used to it, it's so badly organised it's frustrating. This isn't usually one of my main issues, but here it's difficult to ignore. If you find a scene you like the sound of, you can't immediately stream it - you have to remember the title, go back to the main page, find the streaming section, and then try and find it there. It may or may not be there. Then if you do like it (having waited for the sluggish video to get going, with lots of stops for buffering - forget trying to pause and jump and forth during streaming) you have to go back to the main screen, back to the download section and try and find it again. There are no search options to speak of - videos are simply presented per section on one large page in date order - that's it.
Often I found the videos didn't match up to the hot descriptions. For example in one video she promises to feed Rob his own cum - but you don't see her actually do it - his face remains out of shot.
I think from then on video quality will be acceptable quality and worthwhile. However the vast majority of the material remains in the other formats at resolutions which are simply too low for me to find them of any real use.
Overall an interesting concept but to me, the site just doesn't work overall.
Not sure if the site has gone over to regional billing or what but I was charged $17.95 per month recurring, not the $12.95 stated here and on TBP.
Perhaps PU could check with the site if this is for all users or just European ones? I've submitted an update report to TBP.
I will review the site later but first impressions are not good.
Also I've cancelled right away which I often do if I can tell I won't enjoy a site so I don't forget to do it later and get rebilled, but my cancellation e-mail says I was billed "?20.26" despite my joining e-mail saying it was £13.87 which sounds about right for $17.95
Either way whichever currency it means it's not the correct amount. I've queried this will CCBill and will update when I get an answer but until this is sorted out I'd approach this site with caution and double-check the charges - at the least you're probably not going to be paying $12.95 a month anymore.
** UPDATE - CCBILL have just e-mailed me saying I was billed £13.87 which is equivalent to $20.26. I have e-mailed back saying in that case I was over-charged because the site is supposed to cost $17.95 to join not $20.26. We'll see what they say to that! **
** UPDATE 2 - Okay it's the old regional pricing. So, the price to UK users, and presumably other Europeans/rest of world people is actually $20.26 per month. However, whilst that's bad enough I don't understand how I can get regionally billed without even knowing it! Not impressed. **
Be careful - there's a notice on the site saying you're not supposed to use download managers at all and if you do they can cancel your membership and report you to CCBill.
That may be why you're having problems?
Always good to see a webmaster replying positively and constructively to a review - I wish more would, well done.
Well-written review but if you used paragraphs it would be much easier to read.
Excellent review - you sound a little in love! I agree about her being called "skinny", that's not a compliment to me. Though I think in today's world some women do see it a compliment! I'd prefer the word "slender" or as you suggest "petite".
I tend not to do one-model sites as I prefer variety, but I have had a bit of a passion for the odd model in my time and I wouldn't probably join their site as part of a network as you suggest.
Each to their own I suppose but smelly dicks? Lovely! Of course computers are yet to have smell emitters but just to prove how nice and smelly they are the preview section (somehow I couldn't look away, like a car crash) the dicks are suitably dirty looking!
I think I can safely say I'll be avoiding this site!
Hey there thanks so much for your help, it worked! Turns out a RealPlayer add-on/extension was causing the issue, and then Firefox said that extension was known to cause issues with Firefox anyway. I disabled that and it worked fine. In fact I've now uninstalled RealPlayer completely and touch wood, my browser seems much more stable now!
Wow, thanks for the really helpful reply, I appreciate you taking so much trouble!
Actually I do find Firefox has been crashy for a while, but it kind of comes and goes and this is the only site which crashes it 100% of the time.
I keep meaning to reinstall Firefox totally - reinstalling it but with my old settings saved doesn't help - or move to another browser, but none of the other browsers I've tried really suit me - I prefer a old-fashioned layout, and the others are too streamlined and minimalist for me, can't find anything.
Also I don't want to lose all my bookmarks and passwords but I know that's just laziness!
I'll try what you suggest - it might turn out it solves my Firefox issues overall!
I'd like to join this site but can't! Every time I click on it it crashes my browser (Firefox) immediately. I've tried it over a few days in case the site was having temporary problems, and I've tried the link here, via a Google and Yahoo! search and just typing the address in full in the address bar but it won't work every time.
Other sites from the same group seem to be working fine. Anyone else having trouble?
Naming this site "Str8Hell" when there was an existing site called "Straighthell" was naughty! Perhaps it's why Straighthell is now renamed BreederFuckers!
It's obviously on a very similar theme but the previews don't look up to the same standard - they use a lot of very similar ideas to Straighthell - pure conincidence I am sure - but it doesn't look as well done.
The preview scene of a woman fucking a man with a strap-on was a hoot - never have a seen such a bored-looking girl!
Looks like they're trying to combine lots of different ideas like CFNM as well as gay stuff into one site.
This site has long been blocked for UK users, so to my surpise when I was looking at preview pages for it one day it let me click though to the joining page.
Delighted that they'd obviously changed their policy, I signed up only to be given a membership to a completely different site - absolutecruelty.com, which is a heterosexual site!
I e-mailed Verotel support about it who did promptly cancel my membership and refund my money.
I suppose it might have been a mistake that I was allowed to join from the UK, but then how did I get subscribed to a completely different site immediately?
Verotel said in their e-mail that mine wasn't a one-off case and that several other members had contacted them with the same issue. I don't know if all were UK users, but I would say approach this site with caution.
Verotel said they are investigating but whether they'll get back to me I don't know. If they do I'll update on here of course.
I've given up mate - every e-mail I have sent has been replied to with the usual "protect models privacy" nonsense! I keep checking the site to see if they're reviewed the policy but no luck.
Maybe not worth moving abroad for but close - it is such a sexy site! If only there was a way round it, but I can't think of one!
I would absolutely love to join this site, but they have a crazy policy which blocks UK users from accessing it. This wasn't always the case, as I've seen other reviews including on this very site from UK users who have been members in the past.
The official reason is that it is to protect the models privacy - they are UK-based and do not wish to be seen! This is such nonsense as they have preview pictures and video clips all over the web which are available in the UK, so their privacy isn't protected at all.
Even sillier, their sister (brother?!) site "First Auditions", which IS available in the UK, carries a handful of videos from Straight Hell as a "guest gallery".
They will not budge from this being the reason, and they will not allow UK visitors to join. Whatever the real reason is, it's very frustrating.
Apart from Brutal Tops, a site also from the same studio, this is the only site I have ever known to be specifically blocked in the UK at the site owners insistence, which makes it even odder!
The clips I have seen, and the few scenes I was allowed to download as a member of First Auditions, are extremely hot - this is easily the sexiest porno I've ever seen. If Straight Hell was available in the UK I would never leave!
Hi mate it's my biggest porn-related frustration ever!! Good to meet another gay site reviewer on here!
No, it's not worth joining FA to get the videos if you don't want the other FA content - at the moment there's only four StraightHell videos on there, and they're only scenes, not the whole set of any one story.
It might be worth joining some time down the line as the guest studio contributions seem to be added every couple of weeks, but they're from four different sites - CMNM, CFNM, BrutalTops (also unavailable in the UK) and Straighthell.
There's four BrutalTops and four Straighthell scenes right now. If they add 2 a month from 4 studios in rotation, then you're only going to get a new Straighthell scene every 2 months - so I guess if you waited a year there'd still only be 10 Straighthells and 10 BrutalTops videos in total!
I've e-mailed them at StraightHell and the other sites before asking why they won't make it available and asking for the real reason but they just say there are no plans to make it available in the UK and ignore the part asking for a reason. MAYBE if enough people asked them, or even UK users left their other sites at the same time in protest, they might relent. Not counting on it though!
I SO want this site it drives me crazy! I HATE not being able to access it! They claim it's to keep the models identity private in the UK but that's such nonsense - they have preview videos and stills all over the web!
Someone suggested a proxy to me but whilst that would maybe let you get to the sign-up page, you'd still be paying with a UK-based credit card so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work and they'd block you then.
The only partial workaround is to seek out the reasonably long previews on the net, and if you join First Auditions they have a handful of full-length scenes available as a "guest studio" contribution - strange that one, since First Auditions is accessible in the UK!
I've always been tempted by this site but put off by the fact that it seemed not to update - the previews never seem to update - unlike the other sites run by this studio, which are always given dated updates in their preview areas and heavily cross-promoted, this one always seemed a bit obscure and forgotten about.
It did used to have a full preview section with videos though and was mentioned, though not much, on the other sites.
Now none of the other sites seem to mention it and when I checked the homepage has no previews and nowhere to join - only a login for existing members.
I've heard of sites no longer updating but they usually still let new members join. As I know the company behind the site is still going and updating other sites, I am confused as to why they wouldn't let anyone else join.
I wonder if they plan to close the site and are only keeping it open until current members subscriptions expire?
Seems as shame as a it looked a hot site with a lot of potential to me....
I never heard of a site which restricts the quality of what you can download to fully paid-up new members! Waiting six months before you can get the best quality? That's just bizarre. I wouldn't dream of joining this site on principle, no matter how much I liked the content.
We porno fans need to get fussier and start demanding to be treated with the respect paying customers deserve. The studios complain about piracy and free streaming sites but don't seem to understand that treating people who do pay for porn badly is part of the problem!
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