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07-06-15  06:04pm - 3240 days #11
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Definitely a bit surprised but not entirely unexpected. When I saw Rick mention "investors" coming on board for MyPorn and that PU/TBP was going to be left out of that project, that sort of made me wonder what was actually going on. Well, now we know.

My initial impression is that this sounds like a win for everyone. Rick has been a ground breaker with his past works and it sounds like the new site will be another step up. I wish him and whatever part of the PU/TBP gang that moves along to MyPorn all the best.

For those of us PUer's who still like the forum and doing reviews, I think it's a win since we won't be the red headed step child left behind at the road side. It sounds like Mantas has some ideas and intends to keep things up. Obviously time will tell but at least it sounds promising coming out of the gate.

Good luck and best wishes to all involved.




That's awesome of you to say WG.

Glad everyone so far has an open mind. I really appreciate the support and understanding. I've been really encouraged how Rabbit has responded so far. I'm very excited to see what's in store for the future of this forum and TBP! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-05-15  05:32pm - 3241 days Original Post - #1
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Lady and gentlemen of TBP and PU. I’m happy (and sad) to announce that thebestporn and pornusers is officially under new ownership. As of this week, our parent company, Ranks.com, has signed a purchase agreement with Rabbit’s Reviews to manage and takeover both web-sites. This is the very first announcement btw. We wanted you to know before anyone. The official press release will go out tomorrow.

It’s very emotional for us in a lot of ways. The review space has been our home for so many years now (since 2003), and we take a lot of pride in all our work and its success. I never would have expected both sites to thrive for over 12 years. As most of you know, we’ve been moving our focus toward our beastly endeavor MyPorn.com. The initial plan for MyPorn was to widen our scope and to bring an improved review process, in addition to a next gen movie and forum platform. However, as the enormous project evolved, we realized that to be successful, we can’t try to do too much. MyPorn has to define itself with clarity. In the end, it was clear that MyPorn is purely meant to be a modern movie platform, and we’re very excited to make that leap.

I really want to thank and express my gratitude to all of the users that made TBP and PU what they are. Trusting us to provide this resource in your lives means so much. We used every last resource we had left to keep TBP and PU going. It’s been uncomfortable to watch the sites slowly trail off the last couple years. You get what you put in though, and our efforts were spread too thin. The fact is that our burn rate (monthly expenses) is now at an all-time high with MyPorn requiring more and more staffing/resources. This acquisition comes at the right time and is a win-win for everyone, including you all as users.

I’m putting just as much trust in Rabbit to take our sites to new levels we’ve never seen. The transition will be subtle and will take time. Both camps are already working very close to take over management and add new reviewers. Maggie will be writing reviews throughout the month from our side. We’ll be training their staff on our processes and virtually handing over the keys through August.

Even as review rivals, I’ve been friends with Rabbit now for almost a decade. Rabbit is truly the best man for this job. I’m confident he’ll keep the integrity of our reviews, and give the proper attention that our users deserve. I hope they prove me right and re-energize this community while keeping its intelligent and positive spirit alive. I’m very excited to see what Rabbit has in store. He’ll be joining this thread to hopefully share some of that vision.

Our new journey is just getting started, and I know we have something really special with MyPorn. I can’t wait to pull the curtain on this massive construction site ya’ll have been hearing about for way too long. I shake my head when I think back to all the announcements and timelines. I can’t stand when companies continuously push back product launch dates, and here we are that exact situation. All I can do is ask for your forgiveness once we do finally launch. If you’ll have me, I’ll be right back here looking for Alpha testers soon enough.
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06-04-15  10:56am - 3273 days #10
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I like Rick's new avatar ... looks like someone who just finished a long weekend in Vegas performing unspeakable acts to land a few dollars of "Angel Investor" money. While I'm guessing it's true that 'pimpin' ain't easy', there has to be a better way to fund a website site

A few quick thoughts / observations / bitchings:

- I assume the plan is still to eventually integrate PU/TBP into the new site. The main reason behind this query is that things are almost dead here. Two reviews a day on TBP, almost no forum activity and a few reviews / comments per week on PU. If the new place is a new and flashy as predicted then I don't see much traffic flowing towards this neck of the woods. In fact, I see more people just leaving. One quick thought would be to take some of those hard earned angel bucks and bring back the PU raffle at least for a while (I know it ain't happening but it's just a thought).

- An extension of my first thought is that many of PU users are going to feel a bit homeless for a while. I see the forum activity shifting to the new place while PU/TBP sort of languishes in the backwaters. Meanwhile the primary focus of MyPorn will be movies and pictures, essentially a glorified tube site, with the comments and general forum chatter probably reflecting that level of user. In short, not much going on here and not much of great interest there. Nothing can probably be done about this in the short term but as this is one of the few places on the net where porn fiends can actually talk intelligently it seems like you don't want to alienate your base for too long.

Anyway, it should be interesting to see the actual beta and what gets rolled out. I have to admit I'm a bit partial to the current setup but I know the economics don't work out any more for standard review sites and PU as a whole has lost a lot of participation. So, we'll see what the brand new world has to offer.


Thoughts, observations or bitching, I always enjoy reading a Wittyguy reply!

TBP/PU will run independently for a few reasons. We chose not to incorporate reviews into MyPorn and keep it focused on movies as our primary content. The site become too bloated/complex, so we had to scale back. With that said, the movies area is amazing! I couldn't be more proud of the end result.

Sadly the PU forum has slowly dwindled. We have put a lot of technology into our new forum system at MyPorn, and we'd love our community here to join. I'd love to keep this forum up and running also for the members who still value it. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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06-01-15  02:05pm - 3276 days #5
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Thanks Khan for the heads up! 😁

We've been quietly but aggressively working behind the scenes on MyPorn.com. I'm very appreciative to everyone who has supported this project since it was first announced. We've raised 700k in the past few months from angel investors to really power the final development stages and provide a marketing boost for launch.

The overall scope for MyPorn has narrowed and I'm happy to report that TheBestPorn and PornUsers will remain our dedicated review platform and operate independently alongside MyPorn. We're moving forward without a review platform on MP, and dedicating the resources toward our featured movie and forum software.

Out of good faith to our loyal community members I've included some of the newest designs to digest. This is a "mockup" of the new MyPorn homepage and a movie page. Somewhat of a tease, they don't tell the whole story by a long shot. Try not to judge just yet, it's better to wait and let the site speak for itself when it's ready.

Home Page: http://cl.ly/image/3n313T3I0e0j
Movie Page: http://cl.ly/image/3w390c0u1S0i

Speaking of... we're 1-2 months away from a working Alpha site. I'll be posting here when that's ready and inviting a select group of members here to participate. All registered porn users will automatically have priority access post-alpha.

Thanks to everyone for their patience. Nobody is more anxious than me to release this product. 👍 The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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09-26-14  01:25pm - 3524 days #8
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09-25-14  12:20pm - 3525 days Original Post - #1
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Hi everyone! 👋

Back in May we came up with an idea to create a fresh emoji set (after seeking a solution for myporn’s forum), since there were no licensed options for web use. I had been working with a talented artist who I thought would be perfect. 4 months later we had finished a complete set of emoji icons (over 800 total) and built a web-site to showcase them along with tools for developers to implement them. They’re completely open source, and something we wanted to contribute for the love of it.

Visit either of the new sites:

Emoji One: http://www.emojione.com/ (learn more and demo)
Emoji Codes: http://emoji.codes/ (browse all emoji, and the corresponding shortnames)

They’re fully compatible with unicode standards which means that if you insert an emoji from, say your mobile device, into the pornusers message box it’ll convert properly. More importantly though, it enables the use of a massive library of graphics for desktop users as well.

This is how to insert an emoji into your message:

1. In the message box, type a “:” to bring up the emoji selector.
2. Start typing a keyword for an emoji you wish to find.
3. Select the emoji you’d like to use and it’ll insert the corresponding code.
4. To view all the codes and emoji available, visit: http://www.emoji.codes

Here’s what the emoji panel looks like…



Hope you all enjoy them! 💚

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FAQ:

Did this impact the myporn launch date?
To some extent, yes. By about 1-2 months, but the overall reward has been priceless. We’re still on track for Q2.

Will the former animated emoticons still work?
Definitely. They’re still available from the message panel. Note a few code names had to be changed to avoid conflicts. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-26-14  08:06pm - 3585 days #33
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Thanks for your feedback twotails! I also agree that most casual users have yet to discover the upper end of the porn world. So many paths of resistance as well. We'll make it easier than buying a song on iTunes. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-22-14  10:05am - 3590 days #22
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Originally Posted by AWpress:


Not trying to be contentious, but that's currently how thebestporn.com operates anyhow; as far as I know, TBP is already an affiliate of every site they review. Almost all affiliate programs offer content to their affiliates,(review sites just don't need it for their method of promotion).

The only hurdle I can envisage lies in the amount of content they'd need; they might need more content than is given to affiliates by default (depending on the site). Negotiating this is far from unheard of, however (e.g. tube sites).


AW !! Haven't spoke to you guys in a long while.

That's 100% accurate, all content deals will be completely custom from their tube offerings. We think and hope content providers like yourself are ready for a fresh new delivery/exposure platform. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-22-14  10:03am - 3590 days #21
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


So if I get this correctly - myporn.com is essentially a third party go between for a specific contracted group of providers & end users by offering teasers & discounts. The provider group is going to be limited to whomever you are able to contract with.

Does this mean, the listings & reviews of the current PU provider database will be culled to those that you are able to contract with? If so, the 'My' in myporn refers only to Rick & A$$ociate$.

Capt: "It looks like there is nothing there for photo folk." being an example in this thread that leads me to that conclusion.


Reviews will not be limited to only sites the content partners. The reviews and forums are a huge part of the site. We've built the forum software from the ground up to include features you won't find anywhere. Everything works together in harmony.

I'll give you an example of how we're more than just a video streaming site.



This is a window into the site profile page, where you'll find similar site facts (as TBP), feature options on the left (movies, reviews, forum, and models). You'll be able to access not only all of the movies they have with us, but instantly view the overall reputation, reviews from real people, a dedicated forum, and a list of all models. Further down the page you'll find a list of site representatives where you can easily view their community reputation, and general comments about the site.

Besides the forum, we're building a private messaging system also from the ground up. Industry and consumers alike will be able to message each other or create a group discussion. Imagine someday keeping all of your important private adult-related conversations away off of your desktop and conveniently in one location.

There will be push notifications fb-style which I've received death threats from my programmers (you know, in so many words). When you have a vast array of services, such notifications (and there's around 30 notification types) become invaluable.

It took a lot of might and emotion to scatch our initial plans, but it was done to improve the overall product. I promise the wait will be worth it. So labeling myporn.com as "Teasers & Discounts" misses the mark completely and is borderline insulting. BTW, the free HD "teasers" will avg about 15 minutes in length. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-21-14  01:04pm - 3591 days #17
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Originally Posted by elephant:


Hi, I very much like the new look of the site. I agree it would of been better as you know now Rick if you'd of announced it this year, but things change as I too develop websites and its really hard to plan for all uncertainties. 3 months can so turn to 6 months with things you take down another path with developing cause you get new ideas as you go along.

Its great its now turned into a bigger project and looks exciting stuff. Good luck with it all.

Last question does it offer like individual movies from loads of studios that sign up to the site.


Appreciate the support/understanding elephant!

Regarding your question, that's correct. Our goal is to offer comprehensive library starting with the top studios (and the newest movies) in our industry. As we grow, we'll branch out to all niches, etc. The secret ingredient will be in how simple it will be to "follow" your favorites and get fb-like notifications when they add new movies. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-21-14  12:50pm - 3591 days #16
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Yes its fun for sure, It sorta like art kinda.
I been building since websites began, was always fun
to make stuff and then see people enjoy it.

The new site structure looks amazing and I am sure it will kick butt.


This is a time where I wish we had a like button. New forum will have a like and dislike button. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-21-14  12:49pm - 3591 days #15
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Originally Posted by Capn:


It looks like there is nothing there for photo folk.

Cap'n.


Unfortunately that's correct. One of the main ingredients we had sacrifice were the galleries to scale down the site. The initial list of sites/features were way too overambitious. It's something that we'll keep as possible content to add later. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-18-14  07:48pm - 3593 days #11
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I feel ya Rick, its fun to create stuff and like you I did something not really done before. The rule is not only to improve in what others do, but do it different, learned that in business college, also learned when I ignored that things go flop.

Just like JB, Yea I did the same thing, the what the hell thing was in my head allot. But After making the same mistake it was clear what occurred here too.


Appreciate your perspective CT! This business is never without it's challenges. I guess that's what also makes it fun. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-18-14  10:14am - 3594 days #9
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


It pains me to rain on your excitement Rick, but this progression of postponement is rather sad. In my book it would be preferable to have waited till your site was finished before enthusiastically promoting it and then disappointment by delay. I realize that it's an evolving process but I'm sorry you involved us in the mix. We were floating along rather happily and the expectation you set up was one of immediate change, though the only change we see is that those expectations were not met. I sort of liked the vivid display you had in Q1 2014 over the current one. My own excitement & enthusiasm is waning my friend... but then I'm just an ol porn dog so I'm sure in the big picture it matters not.


I feel you and in hindsight I jumped the gun with the initial announcement last year. I should have been more patient and waited until we were further along. However, it's tough to regret my choice either. At the time I was so excited to be working again and wanted to show the community I was actively working on a new project. My excitement got the best of me and as the project evolved, and evolving more, we had to make some tough choices resulting in an overall direction change and re-built interface.

I understand where you and I assume others are coming from. It frustrates me to when companies delay (and delay) their release dates. I whole heartedly apologize for disrupting the chemistry at the time.

As far as the interface, it's far superior to the old. After we released the preview pages in January, I sought out opinions from a number of my trusted friends and it caused me to re-think what we had built. I'm glad I did because the result is unparallel. It'll respond to your browser size (from mobile, tablet, desktop, to full HD) unlike the old and is more compact. There were too many moving parts with the former and had issues with cross-browser compatibility. It was a tough choice and kept me up many nights, but ultimately I know it was the right one. If we had been further along, it would have been no turning back. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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07-17-14  04:58pm - 3594 days #3
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Originally Posted by biker:


All I want is a spell check, because I stink at spelling and it takes forever to write a post. But this sounds good.

Thank you Rick.


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07-17-14  01:11pm - 3595 days Original Post - #1
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For those that have been following our development knows this project has evolved dramatically. What started out as TBP/PU version 2013, grew into a multi-site project under the myporn.com domain, has now settled comfortably in as simply MYPORN.COM.

Visit our new landing page, just released a few hours ago:
http://www.myporn.com/

There is no mistake about it, we're shooting beyond the stars. We've doubled the size of our development team and are producing things I couldn't have dreamed of last year. In my gut, I see this as not only a game changer, but possibly a new game altogether.

Tubes were invented about 8 years ago and changed the entire landscape, most say for the worse. Today, not only do they control the vast majority of adult traffic. Revenue to premium producers took a nose dive, due to the poor tube business model which favors ads.

The market we're creating will be a "freemium" business model with no ads. We'll be the first (as far as I know) to convert a sale directly from the free movies themselves. This puts the money (which we'll split) directly into the producers pocket and offer additional exposure to their brand/site. Not only that, but it rewards the highest quality studios. This is a unanimous victory for porn, and especially fans.

We need YOUR help to spread the word to all your porn loving friends about this venture. You guys have been my sounding board from the beginning. Every piece of input has been carefully analyzed and applied. I can't wait to show you guys more, but that'll have to wait. It's important we don't expose too many trade secrets at this time.

If you have a twitter and/or fb account, please follow/like/share us:
http://www.facebook.com/myporncom
http://www.twitter.com/myporncom

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05-25-14  01:29pm - 3648 days #71
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Monahan,

I appreciate you seeing it that way. The site/concept has already evolved into something really special. If we couldn't afford to be this patient, we would have launched an inferior product already. Luckily we have the revenues and can take the proper care/time.

Once it launches, I know everyone in the business will attempt to replicate it. It'll also be much more difficult to make changes after that fact.

Don't blame anyone who's impatient by now. I've told everyone we would have launched months ago! Nobody puts more pressure to launch than myself. My friends/famliy constantly ask, and it's not fun having to say the same thing.

With that said, I'm more and more excited each and every day about myporn.com's future! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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05-22-14  03:02pm - 3650 days #67
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What are the url for your sites? I'd love to see them.

myporn.com is going to about as polished (front and back) as you can get once we launch. We know how much interference there can be when making major updates after the fact. We'll have a very thorough alpha/beta program which we'll be starting up soon enough so we can start testing more.

You're right... as much as development can be slow and frustrating, it's a lot of fun too! The results are always worth the pain. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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05-22-14  12:41pm - 3651 days #65
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Hey Cybertoad! Still chugging away...

It's a continued work in progress and it took us a while there to see 20/20. Since January we've made excellent progress and Khan can attest to the fact that it's coming along great.

The last 6 weeks we've been working on the db infrastructure to handle sites, companies, and affiliate programs. Most of that work has been organizing all the import rules so we can accurately export the site/company information from thebestporn.com.

Another component that has taken months to perfect is our custom web text editor. We tried multiple libraries like ckeditor.com and they were overbloated and not fully customizable. We've had to hire a javascript expert to get all the features we wanted such as text styling, linking, image upload, video embedding, emoticons, and more. It's built from the ground up and will be used for the reviews, messages, and forum.

We should have a new splash page at myporn.com soon with the a look into the new interface. I'll refrain from giving any specific launch dates still until we're closer to completion. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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04-04-14  10:08pm - 3698 days #62
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I finished my first site two weeks ago after 60 days of straight work. We are now expanding into a site 10X size what we just built started right after finishing the last.
Feel your pain Rick, doing 2 back to back is hard can't imagine 7 at once. Our first site is sky rocketing at stats blow me away, next site will be bigger no idea how big this one will be but paid a premium to make it work.
Fun stuff though , nothing like building a site and seeing it do well.

It will be all worth it Rick when its done.
I have 6 more sites to build after this one a total of 8 to be done by next spring.

CT


Congrats CT!

It's always an accomplishment to finish something great. Sounds like you've done just that. Nothing better than opening up your web-site to the world. From one developer to another, best of luck with your expansion. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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04-03-14  07:17pm - 3699 days #53
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Minor Update:

We're still working diligently on myporn.com. Late January we made a bold move to re-design (dramatically improve) the interface and scale down the site as well. Looking back, I'm not sure what I was thinking trying to build 7 sites at one time. The other delay has been technical challenges with developing for every major device (whether mobile, tablet, desktop). It's so much more difficult today than it was 10 years ago, with the benefit of more advanced capabilities.

So the end of January we started re-coding everything we had built up to that point. Up to today, we've built all the major elements including a fully functional forum which is currently only open to staff. Over the next month we'll be integrated sites and testing video functionality. I expect there will be an opportunity soon to allow some of you guys to help us alpha test during this development phase. We're getting close to that point.

I really believe myporn.com will be a major game changer for this industry. The anticipation drives me bananas ... but I know the effort will pay off. Thanks for everyone's patience! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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03-16-14  05:48pm - 3717 days #17
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There is a lot beauty contained within this thread. The keen observers of beautiful creatures have become the creators with their choice of words. Graymane, that takes a lot of guts to share your story. Your language is already artistic in their own way, but this one taps into the greater human emotions that are sometimes hidden beneath the surface for too long. I know what you guys mean when hands are raised at the talk of change. The type of characters that make up the soul of this community are quite remarkable.

Graymane, I hope you continue to fight for the simple pleasures. Hope to see you around for much much longer. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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03-03-14  01:40pm - 3730 days #5
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No problem! You also shoud be hearing from our rep Ken, who handles these type of issues. We're working directly with GGG to make sure all outstanding issues are resolved. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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03-03-14  10:43am - 3731 days #3
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Looks like they haven't resolved anything like they promised us. We've gone ahead and pulled all their company links, but we've left the previous reviews/comments and the ability for you guys to write new ones if you'd like.

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Some common patterns I've noticed and which I agree from my own tastes...

-face is noticed first (especially smile) and probably the most important
-natural over silicone
-girl next door (goes back to natural, realistic)

Also 10 seems to be the avg models tracked. Everyone uses slightly different resources, but indexxx seems to be on top of the models best.

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02-13-14  09:08am - 3749 days #15
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I remember sitting and waiting minutes for a single CGA (2 color) image like it was jesus appearing before me. If it was free, I felt like I had committed a crime! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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02-12-14  07:22pm - 3749 days #12
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:




Sorry - but I was just cruising Brasser's website and noticed they had on the video page a thing called Fuck Stats. I like this a lot. It's the first time I've seen such an offering. (scroll down the attached link)


Wow, this is some crazy micro-data. This is the kind of stats I enjoy too, wondering how useful this would be to the masses.

Swallow :05 seconds. lol

I've had a similar idea, but not to this extreme. Very interesting!

Lot of possibilities there... like building a playlist where you only watch the "swallow" portion of each scene, skips to the next automatically.

GREAT info so far guys. I had never seen 18index.com before... my god. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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02-12-14  12:00am - 3750 days #3
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Thx slutty for the info.

Feel free to post links you guys !! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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I need to learn more about you!

few questions...

1. Approx how many models do you follow?

2. Do you use any online resources to locate new content from each model?

3. What's the best online resource to get model bios/aliases?

4. What usually attracts you to a specific model?


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02-11-14  05:06pm - 3750 days #47
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Hmmmm....

What's available now are only preview pages... only the links at the top are functional.

No invites have been sent out yet... only the ability to sign-up for a later invite. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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Things are moving along well!!

We had to replace our html/css developer a couple weeks ago which slowed us down, but his replacement has been brilliant!

The site has also already gone a major interface upgrade... based on lots of feedback. Wish I had more to update, but that's all I have for now. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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appreciate your feedback turbo! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I tell you Rick, I am very intrigued about the plans, my business brain tells me it not doable. But I was also part of the group that made money off of the other group that doubted this new fangled thing called the internet LOL. People thought I lost my mind spending money on names ?? LOL whats a name you gotta be kidding. Well, I do ok because I made great choices. And I am a penny pincher too.

Well Rick here's to prosperity


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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I'm don't really feel qualified to weigh in on this as I don't tend to buy 'parts' of something. When I buy from iTunes, for example, I usually buy the album and not just a song.

I think what you're proposing is innovative. This is where I'd normally say that you can't make this work because the people who want to steal porn will always be able to do that. I won't say that this time because the last time I did you pointed out that if you could crack that nut you'd have a greatly expanded customer base. That was a eureka moment for me and made a lot of sense. I'm sure that kind of thinking-outside-the-box is what has made many smaller companies into larger companies.

As for scenes, I suspect that I'm part of a minority who probably would have limited interest in that. Not that I have a limited interest in porn scenes, but even though I subscribe to a lot of sites in the run of a year I research them here and at TBP so that when I do join I know I'll like what they have, and that means that for me it'll always be a better value to just join the site.

Where it would work for me is if a site offers a scene with a model that I'm always looking to add more of. But that's really subjective.

To answer your question though, I would pay as much as $4 for a scene, though I'd be more likely to buy if you could come in at the lower end of your predicted scale.

Good luck with this and thanks for keeping us updated.


Thinking differently for a sec...

If we take out the fact that you can buy/organize individual clips from your favorite sites in your own personal online library that you can access from anywhere on any device (i realize i'm a little obsessed with the idea haha), here's another way to look at how this benefits us all:

Assuming we can successfully create content partnerships with every major site (and it's appearing that should be able to find a common start ground)... imagine a central resource where not only did you get the best site reviews, a grade representing each sites overall trust (billing/service/privacy/friendliness), but also a place where you could easily preview dozens if not most of their entire collection.

Previews could be 2-5 min teasers, or up to 1/2 of newer scenes at no cost at all. Then going one step further, if you still were on fence about joining... you could even purchase a clip as a trial, and if you didn't like the clip, get all of your money back for it (so long as you didn't download it, only stream).

Even if you were never interested in purchasing a scene on it's own, having a central discovery zone where you could virtually feel part of the site without ever joining, is an unbelievable resource to any fan of our genre.

One might argue such a product might expose even more, resulting in less sales and the "mystery" of what's inside. My argument would be... a better penny spent, is a happier consumer in the long run. A happier consumer tends to spend more to feel that satisfaction over and over again. The more satisfied our consumers, the more loyalty. With more loyalty is trust, and with trust is a connection that can last forever. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-23-14  04:13pm - 3769 days #21
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01-23-14  11:43am - 3770 days #19
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think as was said last year was the new system wont work for everyone. Took. me some time to adjust to the fact my new home may not work for my uses.

I guess for me it still is not clicking the way it should.
Big Box movies sell 20.00 ish new in stores and 6 month old movies sell for 3-4.00 for a used DVD 8.99 if at Walmart sealed.( Family owns a video store which includes adult movies is where I get the stats )
Why the convenience of online is better then ordering a DVD I found Itunes which is the example being used to be very much yesterdays news. I do not buy in Itunes yet have 35,000 songs () ( No BS I truly do and never stepped a minute on Itunes.)

Other systems like Amazon, Netflix, HUDu are all struggling to stay afloat in the streaming movie industry. And what they provide is new in HD and pretty reasonable month.

Its with all the others doing it a diffent way and not making it very well. I just can't grip the pay for movie thing. When I can get it cheaper buying bulk if it where and still get HD and the download.

Hmmmmm I don't know. Sorry just can't seem to wrap my head around it to make it work in my brain.


The beauty of technology today is that there are many ways to access the same content. There's always those who will always enjoy going to a store, picking out movies, and ripping the plastic off. Then there's others who have no problem paying a little extra to avoid even touching a disc.

Me personally, I always go for the least path of resistance, whenever possible. I don't mind paying a little extra if it means a faster more elegant experience. Less clicks, less thinking, faster delivery.

I have to correct you on Netflix (and even Hulu). Both are profiting and netflix now has over 33 million monthly subscribers:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/01/total-n...-crossed-33-million/

As of last year, iTuns has passed over 25 billion song downloads:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/02/...lion-Songs-Sold.html

For us, it's not about replacing physical discs like DVD/Blu, pay-sites have successfully taken over already. It's about providing a need that clearly exists in all media. Consumers like picking and choosing, they like convenience, and the "pay and get it all" style of consumption doesn't work for everyone. People like just paying for what they use, and some of that is psychological I think.

Adult entertainment is very much like any other entertainment we enjoy. Unfortunately our industry has fallen behind with innovating how we access it. Time to catch up. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-23-14  10:17am - 3770 days #17
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Originally Posted by jook:


My 2 cents although it's probably not even worth that much being a stoopid noobie. First, it took me one more time than Rick. I had to read graymane's post 3 times before understanding it. -)

Personally, I don't ever see downloading clips. I'm speaking for myself. Aside from the fact that the genres I'm interested probably wouldn't be available, I like movies, not clips. And the cost, compared to download sites, will be impossible to compete against.

But that's me and I'm beginning to find out just how different my priorities are after joining this site. However, I wish you the best of luck.

I wish I had a crystal ball and could see what the model will be in 10 or 20 years.


Hi Jook, appreciate any and all opinions/feedback. I want to learn various perspectives in this thread.

May I ask which sites your currently using to access movies?

Are you primarily downloading or streaming?

When you say you prefer movies over clips... you saying you like to have a full DVD movies with 4 collective scenes? Or you saying you prefer a full scene instead of just a clip from that scene?

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01-23-14  10:13am - 3770 days #16
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


This is what I understand you said in the first paragraph:

While there is exclusive content on evilangel.com each scene available as a stand alone download, each director has also bundled this into a dvd (of sorts, since I don't think there are many dvd/blu sold that much any more), but because of this bundling process Myporn would not include this material even though evilangel is currently one of PU's highest rated sites.

"The tagging will be done by a qualified team of experts, in some form."

Tagging is such an interesting subject where I fear the current terms use can be misleading or just plain wrong. There is not a set & defined dictionary being used. As you know I have strong feelings about oral work. BJ, Deep throat, throating, knob gobbler, knob gobbler with hand job, hands free, face fuck, throat fuck ... well you get the picture, all can be used to "describe snow in Alaska" but are usually lumped into one or two of the above words in most releases.

I found in a couple of ADT reviewers, the late Den & Captain Jack, take care in distinguishing with a broader vocabulary than most porn tags provide.

Now having a Porn Act Dictionary would be a first. I realize this bark might be lost on deaf ears, but it is what I would love to see.


You are right in that studios like EvilAngel bundles their scenes into a DVD. I'm mistaken... we'll definitely include these type of scenes as well. In this case, we'll be selling the scenes individually, probably not the entire bundle at first.

Tagging something I'll probably bring up further down the road. We have to get this PERFECT... and while I could expand my staff to handle it, I'm thinking let's use experts in the proper fields to help manage it. We'll see though, a few possibilities here. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-22-14  09:24pm - 3770 days #12
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lol Graymane... I failed the first time, but upon reading once more, I'm delighted to report a successful comprehension of your last post. Appreciate it, I'm confident we're headed in the right direction. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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I expect the clips to be in the $2-4 range (HD only, downloadable and streaming)... but we'll be pushing for the lower end of that. We'll always be experimenting and adjusting as go. Right now we're still in talks with producers to get an idea of what's acceptable to them as well. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-22-14  02:45pm - 3770 days #8
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


My experience along these lines has been Fyretv whose pricing is cheap per clip to expensive depending on the newness &/or arrangement they made on the producer. You can also purchase the entire DVD. No downloads which sucks.

I've also looked clipsforsale (CFS) but their cost is pretty steep and god knows what quality you're going to get. I was lucky to find the lady I liked from CFS online and bought direct from her, though still expensive at least I knew she was getting the money.

Because I tend to follow an individual rather than a company, clips would work for me but download only. Cost I don't know about. If I know a scene is worth the cost I'm liable to pay it. But generally I have no interest in an entire movie. And I will join a site that would have multiple offerings in my niche (Like Evilangel).

It would be nice also if the fare was not just from DVDs. There are certain producers - Throated, BangBros, PornPros, etc. that I would love a select few scenes to purchase rather than having to join a site where 99% of the stuff is crap (to me crap, not the site itself).

And the attention to tags is funny because most times the on-line seller takes the tags directly from the producer which in too many cases is bullshit (Mike Adriano is an example).


We don't want DVD/Blu content, so hopefully we won't be messing with any of that. Only exclusive content from our top rated sites (in all content areas) to start.

The tagging will be done by a qualified team of experts, in some form. Whether it's our staff, or high level users like you guys. There will be benefits to all contributions like this, but we want the community to maintain these type of things. But every contribution is validated, so nothing gets thru that's shouldn't. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-22-14  01:32pm - 3770 days #5
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Couple points I can share.

Most everyone is used to a pay and download system
Not pay download,Not pay download,Not pay download,Not pay download,Not pay download, well you get the point.

How such a thing would work is not per download to me thats a bad idea, But buy a package. Say you buy a month gold package and you get X amount downloads. That way there is not 50 credit card charges either. You could have top end packages for people with $$$$ and low end for the occasional user.
I personally do not use pay per view, but I would buy a package.

Second point is:

Too hard to find a good pay per scene, is just too hard .
I means whats fair for a 20, 30 or 15 minute shot?
What about when its 18 minutes does it end up being a good deal or bad. I can not think of a good per movie charge just because I simply would not do it.
But as said a package deal feels like the old system, but allows your to do a sort of pay per view too. Just as a package. And having packages would meet all afford abilities and varied clientele .

CT


That's been tossed around as well.. and it's something that probably won't happen out of the gate, but something we'll be testing and hopefully implementing down the road. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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It's been years, and your profile pic still makes me laugh!

Anyone who can accomplish this won't be a follower in any way. Organizing and storing this many scenes would put most people on suicide-watch...

Here's the iTunes general pricing as a comparison:

Movies Purchase = $15 purchase (HD) / $13 (SD)
Movies Rent = $5 HD / $4 SD
TV Shows Purchase = $3 HD / $2 SD
Songs = $1

I use iTunes for all my music and some shows/movies as well since I have/use all the apple devices. They have the most extensive library, and it's easy/organized.

It's def not about being a "follower", but learning from both mainstream and adult. Using what we know the market bears is a basis of measurement that can't be ignored. TV shows would be the best comparison. They're primarily offered as a convenience because you can either watch it live, view it on netflix, watch it on their studio's web-site for free, or sometimes On Demand even for free.

So like a porn scene... you might be able to get lucky and find it at a tube, but at what quality and annoyance ? You can buy a membership and download the clips, but the process is clunky (from buying membership to downloading each clip).. and trust is still very low. Convenience, organization, quality, playlist options, and dealing with one company you trust is a big benefit to most.

We'll be hosting all the clips and we'll figure out whether it's possible to keep the clips licensed permanently once it goes live. It'll just depend on how what we can arrange.. but our goal is to make strong partnerships to keep the content on our serves and available forever. At worst case, you'll be able to immediately download the file and keep it locally. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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Many of you know (some of you may not) that a big part of myporn.com is to sell individual scenes (unlimited streaming and download) from a large variety of high quality adult studios. Let's face it, our industry has been slacking and this is long overdue!

The reason it hasn't been done is the sheer amount of content/studios. We have relationships with most of them already, and we're starting with the very best. In time, we hope we can host all of the latest scenes from most of popular studios (popular being the higher ranked sites at TBP). Imagine being able to customize an online library with manual playlists, smart playlists, or simply browse by tag, or latest purchases. Just like iTunes, but it'll all managed and accessible online vs a local app on your machine/device.

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It's great to see this group coming together again... it's a testament to the respect and common goal we all share. Our new digs at myporn.com will enable this community to lead with level-headed minds. It will always start and end with our core audience and it's values. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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01-14-14  11:17am - 3779 days #41
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


About the only issue I have with PU as it is now is the inability to edit posts beyond a certain time limit. Will that be something that's changing in the new site?


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Our "initial" video requirements will look something like this:

1. must be 100% exclusive video
2. must be at least 720p, mp4 format.
3. must be at least X minutes long.
4. scene can't be over 6 months old (from posted date).
5. file must be original, as downloaded from members area
6. video will be handpicked by us or approved

As far as what sites get to participate... that's still somewhat up for discussion. To start we'll probably limit to top sites (by review score), then later scale it for more. We'll have to tools so users can only follow certain niches (tags), ignore sites by indvidual site or entire company, etc. Of course there will be filtering tools on top of that so if you only wanted to ever few movies with a X% likeabilty, you can.

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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


The new site looks pretty snazzy and I'll keep an eye out for that email whenever the Group A invitations go out.

Two things:

1) Will the top bar that connects the various sub-sites float for easy access? (i.e. the Nubile Films menu bar)

2) Will there be a mobile version or will the site be responsive, enabling it to adjust to any screen size?


Also: Welcome back Cybertoad! In honor of your return, here is a dancing banana:


Toadster's in the building!

1. We'll have sticky headers, absolutely. It'll work similar to how you described. The bar will change depending how deep you are in the site. On a basic level though, yes absolutely.

2. There will be an optional scaled down version for mobile (you can bypass to nromal site still). Tablet will use the same site, but mobile will be a completely unique interface. Having it responsive based on screen size was too large of a task in this case. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Glad I waited to respond to this one. My initial thoughts were in line with most others in that there a gazillion tube sites out there so why waste time trying to tempt the freeloaders with more freebies. I don't frequent them but I know a free are going to some HD so you're not really going to break any ground there.

My only other initial thought is that 10 pics are just too few. Double or triple that. There aren't that many pic hounds out there any more so I don't think it hurts to give us a little more freebie action to judge the goods.

My next thought was that the industry needs to shift to more of a token / itunes model which Rick duly noted is where he wants to go. Show a clip (probably 1/3 to 1/2 is OK) in HD and have a "Buy the Full Clip NOW!" button where customer can buy the full HD video and pic set (even though us pic types are in the minority it still adds value for virtually nothing). PU and the site split the fees. The only down side is that the New PU ends up having to mess around with credit cards / sign ups / consumer data (don't end up like Target) / licensing agreements / etc., which might cause more pain than gain. The upside is that if you can build a viable model like this and develop a template then that means extra $$ down the road when you can sell or develop templates for sites that already operate their own tube sites.

Overall, while I think adding such a model would add value to the new site it isn't going to overly add to the "social" aspect in that most people will just view for free or buy a couple of clips and move on. Like PU / TBP most will just be gawkers reading all of our prose in silent awe ... and wondering why the hell we just don't shut up sometimes.


Appreciate the feedback WG!

I think everything will click better as we release more pages. The social is a major part of myporn.com, even though it's not obvious from the preview homepages. We'll dive deeper into that soon.

Your exactly right when it comes to the "BUY NOW" effect. So for the active free video, if you want to stream the other half (or download the entire file), our plan is to offer it for $2. Videos that have expired can also be purchased at anytime, but not played.

Pay-sites will have control over how many videos are "active" at once... could be only 6 at a time, or as much as 100. Point is our entire collection is always "fresh" with the best of the best front and center. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn
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