This isn't the first time that's happened, and it doesn't only happen with online purchases, but that's the majority of times that they've called me. Embarassingly, Bang Bros doesn't bill too discretely. I should have just confessed to the young lady on the phone that I was downloaded the new Tanner Mayes anal scene.
Thanks for the info. I'm due to join the network soon so this is a nice addition to the rest of their sites. I agree that 13 is very tiny and since these guys suffer from the same disease as 21 sextury so it's possible that 13 is all there will ever be.
Aww man, you got some hugs and kisses out of that comment, how come I never get those?
For some reason, I always get logged out when I click behind the scenes after logging in here. Of course apparently I'm one of the only few the like BTS content. But I agree, really good site.
That is a nice site as well but I think EBI isn't very happy with them because they use the info EBI gathers on all the models and then uses that info to update their on site
Hasn't that always been the big problem with sites that feature Eastern European girls? Thank God for EBI because I don't think I could ever keep track of all the names some models wind up under.
Although in their defense. They aren't the ones choocing a different name for them. This is all on the sites manager since he or she is the one choosing a name for the model.
This is due to your web browser security settings/preferences, which you can modify to your liking at any time.
Your web browser is simply telling you that our website is using a method called HTTP authentication for username/passwords. Your username and password are encrypted and stored using a secure method, to prevent others from accessing the site with your login credentials.
This happens most often with certain versions of Internet Explorer, which by default have a very high level of security notifications. If it's annoying, you can change your browser settings/preferences - or try using a different browser, like Firefox.
You don't need to worry about your username/password anyway. We have a convenient system in place that blocks password abuse and sends you a new password right away if need be.
Of course, if you want to change your username/password or have any other questions questions, our Customer Support team is available any time - 7 days a week to help. You can contact us through the 'Support' link on the top right of every page on our site.
That is interesting. It makes it look like some feature within html itself, possibly javascript, that allows detection of an insecure link. I am no expert on html and still less so on javascript. It also suggests that there is a bug in the site's implementation of it.
But, as you say, it is not a bank. Input of login details on insecure links is absolutely standard practice except with banks etc.
I would rather use Firefox anyway, although IE would be safe at a site like X-Art. Not getting the message with IE could itself be a bug in IE or the site's code could be buggy in Firefox and not in IE.
On the very rare occasions when a site has blocked my login details for alleged password sharing, they have provided another set on being contacted and have managed to trace the problem to some error within their own organisation. I think it has only happened two or three times and at least six years ago.
So I would not worry about the message on the form - provided it did not also ask me for my credit card details ;-)
Thank you, lk2fireone. I am humbled by the compliment. The only trouble is that it takes several days to write each review. Not continuous time but rereading and reorganising and trying to ensure that I communicate more than my own personal reaction to a site. And I tend to start with about 9000 characters of bottom line that I have to prune down to 5000. I could not have coped with the old format of review with the smaller bottom line section.
I will be very interested to see your review if you do join at some time.
I think you fully understand my preferences too. I am glad you are enjoying X-Art and I think you are right that I would not enjoy it.
Is that notice given by the site, or by the browser? For example, in Firefox, you can set various warnings to show, or not to show, regarding sending data on forms over secure and insecure links.
Not sure if IE, Opera, Chrome etc have similar choices but they probably do.
The most likely one in Firefox is the warning about submitting information that is not encrypted. You can look at Tools>Options>Security>Warning messages to see what you have set.
Basic authentication is unencrypted.
Login and password details are usually - almost always - sent over an unencrypted, insecure connection. The only purpose of sending the login and password is to gain access to the site's server, which both transmits and receives via an insecure connection.
It is a long time since I had any details hacked. I think the most likely place for that to happen is via a site's signup page where they ask for data before you reach the billing agent (CC Bill etc).
Thank you so much for that lk2, really appreciate it. I've already signed up and yes I did get the dollar price without any regional pricing supplement so a great deal all round :-)
P.S. Forgot to add thanks to Pink Taco for giving us the heads up on this one, always appreciate it when someone finds a special offer for a site on my wish list.
I'm not really familiar with Freeones, but the limited experience I have with it (usually in tracking down a model that I can't recognize using just the one small thumbnail at IAFD) suggests that it isn't a tube site since it only links to tour pages of websites. I might be wrong on that, but if I'm right I hope that Khan will weigh in and allow the link.
Having said that though, I too can't find the discount link and I'd like to take advantage of it. Would you be so kind as to email that to me as well?
First, thank you for that huge compliment regarding my reviews. It is particularly gratifying coming from you, who have so many well argued and balanced contributions on PU.
I would be prepared to write a review of any Diesel site but I think it would be unfair to do it now and base it around a rewrite of my current comments. This is because my actual membership was in January and so is nearly five months ago. This is within the time limit allowed by the rules but the webmaster says (in his posted replies on PU) he has made and is making improvements to the still photography, having recognised its present shortcomings. I think that before I write a formal review with a score in its headline, it is only fair to give him a chance to deliver on that. Based on what you describe here, I am sceptical of the likelihood of that but I feel that allowing a further six months or so for it to occur would be fairer and more useful than my jumping in now. I agree that, given my tastes, it is likely that any Diesel site would take a very long time to build up much photo content that pleases me. Of course, that means potentially being disappointed with what I get for my membership fee but I would feel even more reluctant to sign up now, when I think I could almost guarantee disappointment. In any case, I would be likely to score the site above its personal worth to me. And I would do that to a greater degree if the webmaster were to modify his tour so that it better represented the content in a less extravagant manner.
You ask: "So when you give Metart a 90s score, do you mean that represents your personal satisfaction with the site? Or do you mean, instead, that is your "professional reviewer's" opinion of the site, apart from your own enjoyment?"
I mean the latter. MetArt is absolutely clear in its aims; and its style is abundantly clear before signup. It has a tour which shows every cover they have on the site. It has glossy and professional photography which is amongst the best in its niche and it is a large site with no download restrictions and full download manager support. So I feel I could not deny it a 90s rating even though glossy and professional is not what I want, so that its content is worth closer to around 82 for me personally.
Like you, I also find it hard to achieve this objective scoring. I think it is actually impossible completely to override personal satisfaction. If this were feasible, there would be no need for more than one review in order to establish a score.
You say: "My tastes are different from yours, but you've talked me into a ATK Galleria membership in the near future."
That is fine and I think you would enjoy it but I was not trying to talk you into it, despite my enthusiasm.
You say: "I am looking forward to reading your future reviews."
Thank you. One of those reviews will be for ATK Galleria in the next two weeks. I am hoping to do KarupsHA too around the same time.
Thank you for the approval of my three reviews. I shall shortly be adding reviews of KarupsHA and ATKGalleria as I now have current memberships to both.
I noticed the AdultLabs content at Diesel. I was already very familiar with AdultLabs content and their site. TeenDreams have a lot of AdultLabs content, including all that I later saw on Diesel. As content providers go, I think AdultLabs are pretty good but I already have it from TeenDreams!
As for my preference - "What I want is for the model to look like she wants to rip my clothes off." - well there is plenty of that on ATK, Karups and SuburbanAmateurs. I keep returning to ATK and Karups as they keep delivering. I love the Russian and Eastern European models. ATK do not get many of them. Karups get hardly more than ATK. Nubiles get some but they are "doing things". WeAreHairy have a few too.
I was hoping Diesel might offer a good source of those Russian/Ukrainian hotties in high quality but non glossy style but not doing things. Perhaps part of my problem is that I have joined so many sites that I have seen a lot of their models before and the Diesel content was no better. If I had never seen them, and wanted video, there is probably no better site on the net for collecting them all together.
I think Diesel could help themselves by giving access to their whole model directory in their tour, rather than a one page teaser with every alphabet letter link going straight to a join page. Also, if they claim such great pictures, how about some full size samples in the tour?
It is only through the great review and answers to questions that you have just done that we can find out anything significant about the Diesel network. Their tour is nothing but empty hype. In fact, if it had not been for the favourable reviews on PU, I would have run a mile from that tour. I am not saying the Diesel sites are empty, just that the tour has no content (for a photo enthusiast). It is not unique in having an empty tour and there are very many with worse ones too. But it is the sort of tour that makes me very suspicious of finding anything worthwhile inside.
In summary, I would still be prepared to give Diesel another chance by signing up in 6 months to a year from now. I would go in with open eyes, expecting to be very disappointed again but still probably worth a punt of a month's subscription.
I would not argue with your score. It would be justified by the video content, especially if Diesel stopped claiming to be anything other than a video network until they have a substantial amount of photo content. Or they could offer a cheap membership giving access only to photos. I would sign up for that. I do not expect a site to be best in all areas. What irritates me is when it claims to be so but only delivers in one.
That quote from your earlier review is a good summary of why I found the Diesel photos so boring when I was a member in January 2012. I think a lot of the lack of sex appeal is because the photographer seemed to have no idea of how to engage and commit the model. So they just looked like they were going about their daily life (with or without clothes on)or simply being goofy. I was hoping for better things in the material added in the last few months.
I have had memberships to MyPreciousVirgins (by which time MPV included all the TeenStarsMagazine content). MPV has some good photos but so few that you can find all of them within a week of joining. The model they call Mickey is a favourite of mine. She is Natasha (not Nata) at Averotica.
You have clarified that the girls at Diesel are mainly "doing things", I think. Remember I was a member myself of the whole Diesel network in January this year, so really I was wondering if there were any significant changes since then. Seems like the girls are still "doing things". "Doing things" means stuffing fingers or toys in their pussies or playing around with other girls, or boys, none of which appeals to me. Neither does the METArt style of looking vacant while not touching themselves sexually. I was hoping for some explicit pink shots (using fingers to spread pussy but without insertions). Photographers call that "US Magazine level" in distinction from "UK Magazine level", which has open leg but not pink shots, and from "Continental level", which includes insertions and masturbation.
I looked carefully for US Magazine level shots on Diesel but found almost nothing. I do not really want glossy photos or girls "doing things". Sometimes, in a photo set of a girl "doing things", the first half of the photo set, before she inserts anything, can still be great. SuburbanAmateurs are good at that.
Wow,wow,wow! Your reply to my questions is a review in itself. And it tells me exactly what I wanted to know in more detail than I could have reasonably expected. You are a star for going to so much trouble and I thank you warmly.
There is another reason videos do nothing for me and it is more important than all the ones you mention, though I agree with all of those too.
The main reason is that, in a video, I have no control over what view to linger on and no way to exclude the views that get in the way of enjoyment. It is not just a matter of pace but that is part of it too. In a photo series, I can delete the images I do not like, view a series as a slide show, pause on favourite shots.
I love open leg pink shots with finger spreading but I must have the face in view and in focus at the same time. Once the camera zooms to a body part and loses the face, I lose interest. I delete all the zoom shots from photo series but it is a real pain to go through a video editing all those out! And once I see a spread shot photo with a facial expression I like, I will want to view it for minutes at a time. Video pauses do not work well.
Hence, however good a video is, it simply cannot please me like a photo series.
I like MetArt and Femjoy though, for me, the best site is ATK Galleria, by quite some margin, so I would score MetArt and Galleria both in the mid to high 90s. I find the shoots on MetArt do not have the model sufficiently engaged, involved, aroused. Similarly for Femjoy but both sites have some gems. Rosalia on Femjoy (=Polly A on MetArt) and Sarah on Femjoy each justify a membership all by themselves. But it is on ATK Galleria that I find the most consistent chance of encountering models who look sexy and not merely beautiful.
All the photos I saw on Diesel had models looking like in snapshots, as you say. I shall comment more in my reply to your Msg #7, where you go into more detail regarding the Diesel photo style.
It also did rather irritate me how 18OnlyGirls and YoungLegalPorn are basically one site split into two for no obvious reason other than revenue. At least networks like Karups and ATK have divided their content between sites in a manner which is logical and comprehensible and they are large enough to have no problem justifying a split. Galleria, for example, is bigger than MET and Nubiles combined.
Excellent review, giving a clear view of how you felt about the site. Particularly interesting to me because I know you have always been more of a pix than vids guy.
I want to ask a couple of questions about the pics because I was hugely disappointed with this site when I was a member in January of this year, owing to its heavy bias towards video.
You say the newer pics compare to MET or MPL. Are they similar in style to those sites then? I would characterise those sites as very polished, professionally posed, emphasising beauty more than sexuality. I tend to find their images beautiful but not very exciting and look at hardly anything I downloaded from MPL. Are the later pics on this site in a similar style to those or are they more "amateur" towards the Karups, ATK style?
Are they doing multiple photo sets per girl or is it more of a one or two sets per girl kind of a site (like Pretty4Ever)?
Do photo sets tend to have toys/masturbation themes?
I realise it may be too soon to answer these questions. In January, I found it had almost nothing to offer for my photo tastes but it is definitely a site to watch and perhaps tentatively join in 6 months to a year if it continues to improve its photo content.
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