I type my reviews in Word and use character count to keep myself within the limits for the 3 sections, so I was surprised, pleasantly, to see my most recent one having over twice as much space still available in "bottom line" once I'd hefted it over to the PU review form. And I don't think you overdid it in your excellent TeenFlood review.
It may not happen that one site would select licensed pics not already posted at another site, as the chances are they'll be from different companies and just won't be paying attention. I like it when they just post everything worth posting. It means there's a lot of inspecting and "narrativizing" to do, as I try to bring a set down to a reasonable amount, but I'd prefer that over letting someone else do the preselecting for me.
Example: Tricia Brill, whom I first saw at one site with nice pics but in sizes too small. There was one favorite pic in there. Later, Europornstars posted the set with much larger sizes, but they just happened to omit that one pic that was the clincher for me. I thought, "How could they DO that??"
But overall, Europornstars will sometimes post volumes of Viv Thomas content that you will only get a fraction of at Viv proper. (The Tricia Brill mentioned above wasn't a VT set.)
And yes, it was lovely Tricia laying on a couch, on her stomach. Very very nice! Jeez, I've really got it on the brain! LOL.
So of course I'm looking forward to hearing about that site from you, when you have time.
And BTW, sometimes the VivThomas content comes to JustTeenSite. There's an enormous VT set of Eve Angel there with 158 pics at 4992 which showed up June 27th, for instance.
I'm hoping, well, dreaming really, that somehow they post the Mia Stone "Bike Trip" set in full (she's wearing these black and white striped stockings) and the Susana Spears at the window then on to a bare white bed -- both VT sets -- in full glory.
Great review! Informative and also enjoyable to read. The way you wrote it -- beyond "just the facts ma'am" -- gives me a sense of being on the site as a user.
I've been on it before, and the first time was in Dec. 2003. I was thrilled by the amount of exclusive content. At or since then, I collected my own rare photosets of Tyler Lee, Adriana Lima, Jana Cova, Market Belonoha, etc. Not tops in image quality, but some nice poses!
I noticed on my most recent visit that there's been less exclusive content -- and lot of it has shown up at sites like TeenDreams. That's been my biggest gripe.
But the navigation, I agree, is confusing. The way I dealt with it was strictly reverse chronologically, using the back button a lot to return to where I left off in the calendar. It's because, as you say, the links aren't reliable. That's been true for so long that I doubt it will ever change.
Good point. I enjoy the fact that most gangbang guys (especially when the numbers are big) don't look like the steroid workout kings that fill the rest of porn. Sometimes they're even short, fat, balding, older guys who get some action. Yes, in my fantasies, I bet she "would let me." That girl likes sex and isn't judging me.
Things are weird, all right! Just went to the site and sure enough the updates are unbroken, yet they never showed up any time I signed in. The fifteenth of this month was the last update listed in my browser. The company is located in Aruba, The Netherlands Antilles, but there's an announcement on their entrance page, dating back to February, that leads me to believe that their server is in Atlanta.
Just in case this might not be so I took a speed test from Curacao (Aruba's next door neighbor. Aruba itself wasn't listed) to Eastern Canada: The speed was quite good at 9000 kbps but, by comparison, I tested Atlanta and got a speed of 15180 kbps or a 1897.5 KB/sec transfer rate. A far cry from 89 KB/sec. :-)
BTW, referring to a previous post complaining about a lack of response from support, someone does speak English there because I got a reply from them when first I joined and did their survey. Of course, it could have been one of those automated responses but I find it hard to believe that someone in Aruba, involved in any business at all, couldn't speak enough English to serve the majority of their customers.
Ah, well, it's over and I'm glad that things appear to be working for you.
Twilight Zone time, exotics4me. Things were indeed as Denner and I described them ... for us! He didn't mention the lack of updates but I haven't seen any since July 15th. I even hit the reload button on my browser just to make sure I wasn't looking at an expired page even though I don't even use the cache! :-) Sorry to say I can't go back to see if the updates show up now because my subscription just expired. It was a horrendous experience for me. The flash streaming didn't work most of the time, download speeds were terrible, around 89 KB/s, worst I ever experienced with a site, while you seem to be quite content with them. Could there be something about the browsers? Denner mentioned that his Netscape didn't work and I used Firefox. Let us all sing: Two different worlds ... !"
Hey Exotics, not trying to bust you on your score for this one. Just stating my preferences is all. I probably have some scores that are too high/low for others too. I like your idea about the forum post as I've found some members who do a decent job of writing reviews but consistently score too high in my book. When I give them trust ratings I usually note that as part of my comment.
As for the complete sets thing, I think the "completeness" of a set depends on his contract or at least that is my guess. If he's doing a shoot for, say, Teen Dreams he'll probably give out the full set. With his own material, my guess is that he reserves some of the content he leases out to others for his own site.
I'd agree that Viv's site is more focused on the pics but, like the other reply noted, I don't understand why he doesn't go larger. A lot of Viv's stuff also appears on other sites like ATKgalleria, Twistys, Sexy-babes and other mega-sites which means if other PU users have been there they've probably seen a lot of his material already. I would note that Viv doesn't seem to release full photo sets to some of these sites so you'll probably find the complete sets at his site. For my money, Viv would have to boost his video quantity and quality to score in the 90's but as a picture lover his site is still pretty good.
"Thanks, I had a similar review for the Abby Winters site last year. They're both really good sites, and I would hope that my review shows others that like glam porn, that they might not like this one, just like I would hope your review shows those that don't like glam porn, that is the site for them."
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Yep, that's why I believe a very short review of any site is next to useless. Because every user's taste is so different, (I love hair and have just resubscribed to ATK Natural and Hairy) it is important to give as many details as possible about the contents of a given site.
Quality is very important but the contents are even more so because you might find yourself stuck with a site for a month (or three) that you find terribly boring. Happened to me a few times, Twisty's and ATK Galleria being two recent examples. They are quality sites, most people love them but they couldn't have been farther from what I was looking for. :-) So thanks again for making it so clear to folks about what to expect. Hope new reviewers will read and follow your lead.
I haven't been a member for quite a while, but I used to be and Adriana is a jewel - her webcam shows are great, if you can get to see them. She likes chatting with her fans, likes it when her fans talk dirty to her and seeing her fuck herself with one of her huge dildos while going "Ai-yi-yi-yi-yi" is very hot!
I had a big hearty laugh at the end when you mentioned Mr. Bizarro. (Or I suppose we could toss in the SNL Reagan-era "Bizzaro World," in which there's a huge crisis, to which the US President responds by immediately falling asleep.)
That get-all-the-pics-in-one-place "feature" is just a putting the list of zips one page. Reduces the number of clicks by 25% because you don't have to go to each page in the gallery. Yippee.
I would be easier for THEM to have to make just one zip file for a gallery, you'd think. Maybe they have some program that makes the zips automatically (?) -- so that's why they could care less?
Karupspc used to have zips out the kazoo, too, but they stopped and even went to the trouble redoing a massive amount of content, e pluribus unum. My hats off to them for that. But all the ATK types have to do is switch to single zips now; they could leave their "legacy" files as they are.
Yes, I think the recession's hitting the porn world, too. And what are the US presidential candidates saying about it? NOTHING!
Just want to say I'm glad you brought this up -- your main point about the files being packaged into "mini-zips." Reminds me of those variety 8-packs of breakfast cereal with one serving per tiny box.
I've complained about it before myself. ATK Premium is the only site they offer with complete (all-in-one) zips of photosets. Are the people who run the other sites looking at ATK Premium and asking themselves, "Hey! How did they do that??"
It really IS TIME for ATK Exotics AND ATK Galleria to just put all of the files into ONE ZIP! You know, there are some longer sets at ATK Galleria that have 12 or MORE little zip files! Arrrgghhh.
Surely we're not heading into 2009 with this 20-pic-max-per-zip business still going on, are we????
A fair and detailed review, exotics4me, even though I gave the site a much higher rating. But that's where individual tastes come in and that's why I appreciate reviewers like you. You give all the pertinent details and will steer those who share your taste in a direction more suitable for them without knocking a site that's not quite your cup of tea. BTW, not sure if you will feel the same way I do, given our differences but while you are there download the g/g video (three parts) of Page and Rachelle (could be listed under Rachelle and Page). Rachelle's orgasm is the most realistic I have ever seen in all my porn travels. She's awkward, inexperienced with women, and so genuine and appealing that I marked the three segments: do not delete! :-)
I'd definitely recommend this site for someone who's never joined. Last I looked they had an even cheaper 7-day price. While it isn't always true, Viv Thomas's stuff tends to give a good emphasis on ass. There are treasures to be found here of Eve Angel, Mia Stone, Sandy (Zsanett Ergerhazi), and LOTS more.
I remember the first time I joined (back when 1280px was something to hoot and howl over) and I was like "Wow, fucking WOW!"
Now, I'm almost totally burned out on the 1280px limit there. He actually had a small number of sets that were, I think 1600px (of Kristina Banks, for instance). And they'd had a poll asking what the max pic size should be. This was maybe last year (?). 1600px was one of the choices.
Anyway, plus ca shittin' change. I wish they'd at least go to 1600px! But nooooo ...
And about licensing, some of the fairly newer content is showing up elsewhere, too, of Trisha Brill, Vendula, Zara and others at Europornstars and in at least 2500px.
Hey there, exotics4me ... looking forward to your review ... and I'm looking into the house calls by Gianna and Angelina ... they are both super sweet and love their fans, so you never know. ;)
I've been making this point for quite some time about this site and the Mya Diamond - I consider the people that run these sites among the most dishonest on the net and have been saying so as loudly and repeatedly as possible.
Have problems logging onto their sites and you better have the persistence of a demon because you'll need to follow these fucking thieves to every possible place and scream loudly in order to get them to ever respond.
Look at Freeones.com and you will see dated 2005 material for Eve Angel and Mya Diamond that was then re-posted as new. The people that run these sites are operating dead sites and just recycling the material.
It's nice material if you haven't seen it before but there hasn't been any new material posted to either site for a good long time - to figure out how long, one could figure out from the samples posted at Freeones.com approximately when the sites actually started, compare that to the earliest currently available and then you'll know how much was cut off from the beginning to repost as new.
Thanks. Wow, I was just reading through some of the stuff about not only Eve but Veronika Vemanova and Kyla Cole both having biz associate and/or male companion trouble. (Had been wondering what had happened to the Kyla Cole site.)
The guys there are pretty mad, too, at these predatory and/or insecure males.
Thanks, exotics4me. I can see now where you would be quite content if you download to an external drive while you are doing your work. Speed, as horrible as it is, became less of a problem for me once I lined up five scenes or so for download shortly before watching my usual nightly TV shows. By the time I got back to the computer they would usually be there waiting for me. I must remark though that in this site's case speed was NOT reduced by making multiple download. I get consistent speeds between roughly 80 (sometimes less) and roughly (sometimes more)110 KB/s no matter if I download one clip or five. As to streaming, I don't use it to watch, I use it to get an idea on what a scene is about. Support is horrible as well, I am still waiting for two answers from over a week ago.
However, just like you, I found some interesting material that will complement some of the videos I got from Video Box and the price was right. So it wasn't a lost month! Thanks for your courteous and thorough reply. I appreciate it!
THIS is serious stuff from exotics4me. Eve Angel - one of many PU's favorite - or close to.
Let's get some reactions from webmasters involved - I'd like to hear their version.
And I have had this suspicion about the Marina Mendoza site for some time and how the site has not got the slightest to do with Eve Angel herself.
But the news that the site Eve Angel is taken away from her is bad...
Let's try to get to the bottom of this in the name of this PU-goddess.
Hey, Exotics,
Where on the VivThomas site do they report that Eve no longer has anything to do with "her" site? I was just curious because it seems like a rather interesting thing to find on another (possibly competitor's) site.
I checked VivThomas as a visitor and scanned the "news" part and the Eve Angel bio, too, but I didn't find it.
Thanks should you find the time. Know you're busy.
When in a better mood, I've done that kind of thing, too. "Because I want to" or some such. I like yours, though!
I should make it a rule to never type in an actual "reason" on those forms. "I've lost all reason" or "Mortgage foreclosure" or "You assholes have ruined my life" or something like that would help to turn the tables.
Exotics4me, just a question. Did you ever find a reason that tempted you to lower the original score you gave this site or are Denner and I two of the unfortunates who keep running into technical problems? Just curious because it does happen sometimes that everything goes swimmingly for one subscriber while another has nothing but troubles.
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