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messmer's Comment
from mbaya:
At least you have me to agree with you. I love hairy pussy, but body hair, NO WAY.
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06-10-11 06:10pm
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messmer's Comment
from Capn:
I have to admit, despite the decent subscription deal I am on, I am finding very little of late worthy of being saved.
Cap'n. :0(
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06-03-11 06:52pm
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#4
from 2 Free K:
(messmer's Reply)
@ Messmer - sorry for the delay. If you haven't been on in a while, I'd suggest checking it out - they've probably acquired a few sets worth collecting. I don't recall any big changes regarding the undressing procedure. I feel the same as you - I hate it when they're nude ASAP. I think Sean R still draws it out the longest (although I wish he didn't have such a monopoly on the UK cutie dept).
Regarding the bigger photos, I never use them. They're too big (at least for my screen). If you're viewing on a T.V. they might be useful, but on a standard monitor you end up having to scroll too much. Luckily ATK quickly realized that, so they provide several viewing and download options.
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06-03-11 08:58am
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#8
from The Bishop:
(messmer's Reply)
Hi messmer,
Thanks for the detailed response.
I actually agree with you though you may think that's odd. One of my old complaints regarding sets is if the jump to the goods straight away - no I'm in 100% agreement with you here - I love sets where it’s slowed down.
That's why I like the longer Sean R sets it can be a while before you see all which is so much better; love sets with lots of clothes too including long dresses with the classic suspenders and stockings but like you I find this has deteriorated of late.
Yes I think you’re right, some people want to see pussy from the outset, and think you’re odd if you like the models clothed for long, and don’t get me started on people that think there is something wrong if you like to see women in their natural state. Everyday porn is so boring to me, and I hate hardcore boy/girl stuff.
Anyway I think it’s improving but I can see your point, the models that used to come through from R Williams were always pretty good but his content has trailed off a lot.
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04-07-11 03:22pm
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#4
from The Bishop:
(messmer's Reply)
Hi messmer,
Yes they are still in volumes, guess that is something they ought to update too!
I've given 90 based on the upgrade and vastly improved interaction on the boards since the start of the year, they now provide information on upcoming models for example.
I'll openly admit though it's possibly a little high, see my response to Cap'n - I have yet to find another site that gives me the same raunch factor as N&H along with big sets, seems very hard to get this elsewhere.
Yes not all the contributors provide crystal clear images (something that baffles me) but photographing a live subject isn't as easy as we'd think no doubt, however I don't think that excuses blatantly poor quality.
However things are improving albeit a little too slowly.
Bishop
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04-06-11 10:59am
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messmer's Review
from Ray O:
Good review. I agree with most of your points. I was a long-time subscriber to ATK N&H - over ten years consecutive. In fact, I gave them an outstanding review only a year or two ago.
I quit in 2010, probably for good. They really made a lot of changes to the way they operate, and almost all of them degraded the site.
1) Too many repeats of the same models
2) A reduction of their stable of photographers. They have only about two left that are any good.
3) Hardcore porn videos. SLick, over-produced sets and format.
4) Using pro porn stars. They are fake in every way except no silicone.
5) Not really trying to find real amateurs and natural GND gals and not willing to pay to get them.
There is more, but do you really care? They basically drove me away - I guess in favor of some other type of customer. I bet they will be out of business in a year or two.
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01-02-11 08:32am
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messmer's Review
from tangub:
Thanks for the review. good to read the photo sets come in one zip now, last time i was at any of the ATK sites it was 20 pics per zip and so time consuming to unpack them all and move to one folder.
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10-22-10 03:34am
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messmer's Review
from graymane:
As usual, a very comprehensive and informing review, messmer. I've been contemplating joining something, anything that'll bring back some hair. I'll give this one serious consideration when making a decision.
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10-20-10 10:43pm
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#2
from Capn:
(messmer's Reply)
Yes, I am using similar software.
I would just rather not download 100MB & have to delete 80MB of it.
Cap'n. :0/
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10-19-10 11:43am
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messmer's Review
from Capn:
I rejoined recently myself because I got a good promo offer.
Whilst I am pleased I did, I still think user selected zips are required.
Some sets have as many as 250 pics in, telling a story that could easliy be told in 100pics or a bit less.
These sets feature a lot of duplication of poses so could be regarded as padding.
I have started pruning after download, but I find it a PITA!
Cap'n. :0/
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10-19-10 09:58am
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#5
from Ray O:
(messmer's Reply)
Ideally each set should start out clothed and lead to nudity. I am ok with a 25% : 75% clothed to nude ratio, but I agree that at least some pictures should be clothed. In my opinion, slutty, overdone make-up and glam-style shots are a waste of my time.
Also, poses are important and different angles. Lighting and background too. That is why I have my favorite photographers - Sean R.; Riley Williams, Toby Mayes, and some of Wanton (BMB) stuff. The rest is usually poorly done. Most of the poor stuff I see is due to poor poses and the inability of photographers to shoot the goodies. I'd estimate that of the 7 or so daily updates, three are from overexposed models, two are from crappy photographers and maybe two are top-notch sets.
I don't need to see a whole set of some chick's feet covered with fruit. I also don't need to see a bunch of male ACTORS painting fake cum on the models. There is plenty of cheap porn like that on the web. ATK used to have higher standards, though they are slipping.
The high recycle rate of models and standard porn shoots are definitely signs that they are letting their tight standards go in favor of some quick cash and expansion into mainstream porn.
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02-17-10 08:25am
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#12
from Ray O:
(messmer's Reply)
Messmer:
I get ya and hear your pain (ok maybe not pain). I agree that many of the sets could spend a little more time on their dress and look. In fact, even though my favorite photographer is Sean R. and I really love his explicit shots, his biggest downfall is he rarely shoots full body shots, which I find to be quite the set up for the more graphic shots. He also is obviously not a breast man and rarely pays much attention to gals breasts, which sometimes is fine, but some of his models have absolutely wonderful breasts so it is a waste.
Dhara: OMG what a pig! She shows up every couple of years and I guess they like her since she has hair everywhere, even where she shouldn't (the mustache for one). I don't want to sound cruel, but she gets paid for this and is fair game for criticism. She is by far the ugliest woman I have seen on the site and probably one of the most unattractive women I have ever seen period. I mean really, I'd rather jerk off to a guy than her.
So I get and agree with your comments. I think they could do a better job with some of the sets. I also don't get why they have 60+ sets of some models. I'd rather have variety than one model over and over again (another reason I just let my 8 year membership lapse).
Ray
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11-22-09 02:30pm
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#9
from Ray O:
(messmer's Reply)
Agreed. I have said before that I don't understand why one would want to limit the amount of materials provided that you are paying for. Yu can always download and edit.
Perhaps Capn doesn't have good high speed internet? I can download a zip of 250 pictures in about one minute.
This is a vast improvement over when ATK split downloads of each set into 10-15 separate zips that one had to download, rename and combine. That was only a year or so ago.
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11-22-09 07:59am
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from Ray O:
I like but don't completely get your comment. I think the overall quality of the models is quite high and prefer their natural models - even if they are not Maxim quality. I hate the majority of solo female sites as they are all either (1) real porn stars, (2) wanna-be porn stars; (3) jaded strippers prostitutes and dancers; (4) Hollywood, bleach blond, shaved models or (5) drug addict skanks. So on a comparative basis, I'd say their models are still first rate. It could be a case of different strokes for different folks. Can you name some sites or types of models you like vs the one's you don't?
As to skills of photographers and repetitious posing. What can they do? They are working with a model for half a day and have to get 10 or more sets of them posed from dressed to naked. To a certain extent, there is only so much you can do. As a photographer that personally sometimes shoots nude models, I can say that the goal is to capture the gals faces, figures and sexual goodies in a way that is both tantalizing and at times graphic. You also want to make sure that the model looks fun and not bored. When you as a consumer look at 10 sets of one model in one sitting, you will of course see some repetition and if we a re doing our job right and you like the model, each set will be different enough and the model erotic enough to be entertaining. I have to wonder if your boredom is due to overexposure to the material. That being said, there are a lot of photographers, that in my opinion, are not so good at getting the most out of the models and have poor lighting and close-ups. So again, it would be instructive for you to list a site that does it more the way you want.
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11-22-09 07:54am
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#6
from Advent:
(messmer's Reply)
I just wanted to let you guys know that we are working on a forum for our members/non-members to be able to post on. We know we will get negative comments on it, as we can not please everyone all of the time but we also feel it is a very important tool for us to use to stay in touch with our members. I know IT is working on it non-stop so we should be bringing it out soon. This is one of the things that is ahead of the custom zip feature.
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11-09-09 10:16am
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#4
from Capn:
(messmer's Reply)
I would rather do that editing prior to downloading, with custom zips. :0)
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11-04-09 03:43pm
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from Capn:
(messmer's Reply)
A sad state of affairs.
I largely concur with your views & have recently cancelled my subscription.
The hardcore was generally marked low, so I can only think I am not the only one that doesn't wish to see it there.
I stand by my earlier comment about the sloppy editing & I wish there were a function for user defined custom zips.
It would save a lot of disk space for me! ;0)
It is also a shame there is no dedicated forum for the site members to air their views.
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11-03-09 11:12am
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messmer's Comment
from Drooler:
I've only been a member twice, and especially because this ATK site seems to be the one where the less attractive models get shunted off to. Just look at their preview page. How many babes do you see there?
Sure, it's not without some lookers, but it's a real time sink finding them amongst the rest.
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10-28-09 03:09pm
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#6
from TheRizzo:
(messmer's Reply)
Agreed I'd love to see All Over 30 start producing actual high definition videos soon. Especially of Jordan K and Andie :) But really thats my only real complaint with them. Well they could use upgrading the top size of their photos now too since a lot of the top sites have done so and with people having bigger monitors and faster connections.
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10-04-08 08:13am
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#4
from TheRizzo:
(messmer's Reply)
I just signed up for a month to see for myself how its looking there lately. No question the site is slipping and the movie quality is what is most disappointing. I am not put off so much by the quality of the photos but they seemed to have been losing their anchor babes that used to be there. One thing I liked about the site is they had some very hot girls but also mixed in hippies, older, bbw etc. Natural girls. I am seeing less of the hot teens with bush myself.
For $25 a month it still is a site I will join frequently though as its the only site that provides me with what I want when it comes to hairy girls. If the updates of the past few days become everyday for the next 6 months, I will have to re-evaluate and just take the hairy sets I get from sites like Abby and All Over 30 etc instead though.
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10-03-08 03:15pm
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from TheRizzo:
(messmer's Reply)
I do agree that they seemed to let their standards slip a bit of late with the updates. Hopefully its just a temp setback, but overall I still enjoy the site very much.
Allhairy is a joke. They seemed to make a go of it for awhile with some pretty good sets and decent sized updates but last time I checked they completely gave up and threw in the towel it seemed to me hence my low score for them.
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09-30-08 09:40am
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messmer's Review
from TheRizzo:
Honestly they are the only hairy site out there. My biggest complaints are the video quality still hasn't been improved and the fact they put all their hardcore hairy content on the Galleria site.
I still think you scored the site pretty low for a site like this that takes a niche and provides the vast ammount of content they do. The fact there is no real competition impresses me even more with how much new content they add weekly.
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09-29-08 05:41pm
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messmer's Comment
from boredsurfer:
I hear you!
Abby Winters is threatening to leave ATK behind. AW is nothing for photos, really, though, and the girls do tend to look alike, but the treatment of the models is free of the stupid photog chatter. Of course, most of the AW photogs are women, too.
God, just forbid the photogs to speak on the ATK sites and that will help a lot!
Many a lovely-voiced girl has been muted because I can't listen to the photog say stupid things like "Wow, you look kinda wet down there, what' going on there? Heehee."
How lame.
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03-31-08 10:59pm
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messmer's Comment
from visor:
Correct. ATK do need to learn from Abby!
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03-12-08 10:41am
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#4
from WeeWillyWinky:
(messmer's Reply)
I don't know, messmer, but I never noticed anything "darkish" or otherwise physically different about Toby's sets on ATK's various sites or in his work elsewhere. I did notice that his sets were extremely predictable and instantly recognizeable, at least with the older material, which comprises most of what I've seen since I'm not into the new style of softcore at all. Predictable as in: girl in doorway, expose one breast, expose other breast, lift skirt, turn around, get on floor, lift knees, open knees, turn on side, turn over...done. The models spent WAY too much time on the damn floor in most of Toby's vintage sets.
Over-all, however, I do agree that ATK lags behind some of the premier sites and are resting on their laurels technically and esthetically. I have always enjoyed my visits to their sites because of the sheer amount of content and the wide variety of photographers they use. But I do visit now far less than I did in the years past.
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