REPLY TO
#2
from lk2fireone:
(rearadmiral's Reply)
THANKS FOR THE REPLY.
DEVILS FILM AND PETER NORTH (AND I ASSUME MOST OF THE OTHER SITES IN FAME DIGITAL NETWORK) GIVE YOU A SECURE SITE (HTTPS) TO LOG IN TO THE SITE. AND ALSO WHEN YOU SELECT YOUR LOGIN DETAILS.
MANY PORN SITES DON'T BOTHER WITH A SECURE LOGIN.
THERE ARE SOME SITES THAT MAKE IT A REAL PAIN.
AND I'VE WRITTEN COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE SITES AT PU.
BACK IN 2014 I POSTED A PU COMMENT ABOUT CANCELLING PROBLEMS AT DEVILS FILM.
HOWEVER, TODAY I WAS SUPRISED AT HOW FAST I WAS CONNECTED TO A CHAT OPERATOR. AND HE/SHE WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND PATIENT.
I CONNECTED TO A CHAT OPERATOR WITHIN 2 MINUTES. WHICH IS FAR FASTER THAN I GET A CHAT OPERATOR AT AMAZON OR MOST OTHER SITES I'VE JOINED.
ONE THING: BACK ON 11-04-14, I POSTED THAT FAME DIGITAL NETWORK SITES WERE NON-SECURE WHEN LOGGING IN, AND/OR CANCELLING.
THAT HAS CHANGED--AND IMPROVED.
THE FAME DIGITAL SITES ARE NOW SECURE WHEN YOU LOG IN.
SO I ASSUME THEY ARE ALSO SECURE WHEN YOU CANCEL.
ACTUALLY, YOU REPLIED TO MY COMMENT ABOUT THE NON-SECURE STATUS OF DEVILS FILM BACK IN 2014, WHEN I SAID THAT CANCELLING (AND GIVING YOUR LOGIN DETAILS TO CANCEL) WAS NON-SECURE, IF YOU CANCEL VIA THE INTERNET.
SO I GUESS THAT WE ARE BOTH FANS OF THE SITE/NETWORK.
LOL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE SAYING THAT GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE:
BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THIS SITE THIS MORNING, TRYING TO DECIDE IF I WANTED TO JOIN.
THE FACT THAT IT'S PART OF NUBILES PORN IS AN ADDED BONUS.
THE NETWORK HAS A LOT OF GREAT LOOKING MODELS.
WHICH IS ONE OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS.
I DIDN'T JOIN TODAY, BUT I'M SAVING THIS SITE/NETWORK FOR A FUTURE JOIN.
Yeah, I also get a kick out of it when I stumble across pee scenes from unexpected sites. Brazzers is up there because I remember a few years ago one of their employees posted on their forum that they do not have any pee scenes because it is "not sexy." I guess things have changed with that Maddy O'Reilly scene.
There's also a Brazzers trailer floating around the tubes with Riley Reid pissing into a pool. It's from the scene "A Day With Riley" on Pornstars Like it Big. Not sure if the peeing made it into the final cut, but it's in the trailer, and I'll check it out next time I join.
I think many people tend to have narrow or pretty specific interests within the niche, even though the niche itself is extremely broad with dozens of sub-niches each with their own fans. As for myself, I'm not so particular, and I like almost everything. M2F peeing is the only thing that doesn't really do anything for me, but I save some of those scenes anyway. The most perplexing thing about people within this niche is that many prefer "genuine" amateur content and turn their noses up at anything professionally produced. They want to believe that the model actually has a pee fetish herself, and not that she was just paid to do a scene.
Self-censorship has been in vogue for years. I think it's easier to sneak a bit of peeing into a more mainstream site than it is to have a dedicated pee site. Kink.com continues to make and post occasional pee scenes on many of their other sites, including M2F peeing, which the billers are supposedly so opposed to.
I am actually hopeful that the tide will turn the other direction soon and self-censorship may decrease. With alternative payment options like Bitcoin springing up left and right and becoming more practical, it is only a matter of time before the CC processors lose their leverage.
I think it's the push further towards mainstream that motivated them to stop shooting for WaterBondage.com. They were talking about going mainstream back in 2013.
Yeah, those Pissing.com scenes are definitely gems to hold on to.
I never want to see a site close, except for the worst of the worst scam sites, but I don't feel too bad about Pissing.com. For one thing, I've got all the content. Also, the site was kind of a monument to failure. They had without a doubt the best domain in the niche, they were well known, yet they only managed to turn out 31 scenes before grinding to a halt and staying around on life support for almost a decade. Anyone contemplating a new pee site only had to consider the fate of Pissing.com to be deterred. Maybe Pissing.com closing will help clear the air a bit. It is encouraging that many of the new pee sites this last year seem to be off to a much better start than Pissing.com.
Pissing.com never caught a break in its entire existence. I guess the rocky start to the site was the first warning sign back around 2007. I remember they promoted their content heavily, including on the most popular forum for linking to peeing TGP's at the time. I can't name it here because it is a free site. It was a unique place where a number of sites promoted their content directly and openly, and even interacted with customers in the forum, despite more than the usual amount of piracy going on openly at the very same time. It's still around, but hardly active compared to 2007.
Anyway, Kink posted a number of Pissing.com FHG's there, and actually got a very negative and discouraging response. They seem to have made the mistake of not understanding their customers. Their style of porn was hardcore with peeing and a BDSM flair, and this tends to appeal to fans of hardcore and BDSM who want to delve into peeing. Their audience at that forum was made up of a different customer base however, it was mostly people with a primary interest in peeing, who were mostly not into or even averse to hardcore, and also averse to porn that appeared too "produced." Pissing.com was definitely both.
Shortly after this discouraging reception, they stopped producing new scenes. They also ran into trouble with their credit card processor since they had person to person peeing, and that undoubtedly also played a role. So when they stopped producing new scenes, that was the next nail in the coffin.
They hung on years after that, but last year, I noticed that while you could get to pissing.com directly, Kink had stripped all links to and mention of Pissing.com from their landing page. This was a sign that maybe they didn't see a spot for Pissing.com in their future.
Then, several months ago, I checked back in on Pissing.com out of curiosity to see if it was still there, and the landing page was full of errors. Another warning sign.
Now the site is gone. I don't see it listed under the sites available in the archives. Maybe the scenes are still buried somewhere in there despite not being listed, but a current member would have to check in order for us to know.
An excellent review as always, rearadmiral. Two things (besides the lack of updates and shortage of scenes you mentioned):
a) I never understood why so many of the male actors masturbated while attempting to pee and, because of that, one always got a trickle rather than a stream, and
b) the old Kink habit of the pre-action interview where the actor fervently proclaims how much she loves water sports .. which takes away from the BDSM atmosphere and makes the scene more playful. Which will be fine with those who find the whole subject degrading but chances are you won't find them as subscribers of Pissing.com in the first place.
I frankly found most scenes quite boring and have deleted most of them. As you stated, not one of the better Kink.com sites.
So...what happened? I would hate to think that a company/brand as reputable as Playboy would give you the runaround. I found your note because I was here looking before signing up. I think I'll wait to hear what happens with your case before I do.
Our contact spoke with Pro Biller on your behalf and customer service is saying they should be able to assist you. Please call them again, explain the mishap and email me (michael@rabbitsreviews.com ) about the results.
I spoke with our contact with Playboy and he confirmed that unfortunately they wouldn't be able to assist in this issue. The billing is overseen by Pro Biller and they would be responsible for any and all customer service/billing issues.
In many instances, because most sites and networks are run by small teams (and in some instances, just one person) it is easy for us to work around customer service issues by speaking directly with the necessary people to get it resolved. In Playboy's case, they're a branded property that's licensed to a large company which itself has its billing handled by another company.
I wish we could be of more assistance on this issue.
So... wow... I didn't know anything about this stuff before reading your comment. I totally googled it and read an article about a number of women who had terrible work experiences with this guy. I never liked ryan in his scenes, i felt like he was the weak link and ruined most every scene he is in. He is definitely not a talented performer. This makes a lot of things I've seen in many scenes make more sense now. The constant creampies and such. Also, ryan reminds me so much of james deen, they both have that "im gonna take charge and make this scene about me" attitude. I hate that. These guys u can tell love to dominate over women. Probably an insecurity thing these guys have. Can't stand the type of scenes where these guys just throw girls around like they are their personal toys. So I will definitely be staying away now. Gosh, it's getting to where I can't sign up for any sites anymore. between the mindgeek allegations and the ryan madison issues now, and all the severe download limits being put in place with all these sites I feel like I can't sign up for about 80 percent of sites anymore lol. Everybody is doing this onlyfans thing, but cmon, onlyfans sucks bigtime. who wants to pay and pay and pay for streaming material that is often times crummy cell phone pics or vids that look like vhs quality. now im venting lol, anyways, yeah thanks for the heads up on ryan.
REPLY TO
#4
from lk2fireone:
(rearadmiral's Reply)
Maybe I shouldn't say this, but I regularly write reviews of sites I've reviewed before.
As long as I try to give a fresh take or add something new, there's no rule against submitting a re-review of a site.
You have to wait about 1 year before you can submit a re-review.
(The PU site states you have to wait 6 months before submitting a re-review, but the present software system makes you wait about 1 year before accepting a re-review.)
So if you want to submit re-reviews, to add some new ideas or whatever, there's no rule holding you back.
And I agree that exotics4me will be keeping the #1 position for a long time.
As for your dry spell, I don't know if it's from lack of current interest in porn, or if you can't find any sites worth joining.
If you can get a special discount price, I recommend the Adult Time network, LetsDoeIt, or Teen Fidelity (with Porn Fidelity and Kelly Madison thrown in) for your consideration. Wait for a holiday special on them, and any one of the three is worth joining.
I've seen Adult Time discounted to about $9.95 for the first month, and an annual membership discounted to under $100. So don't accept higher prices, wait for holiday specials for the best deals.
But even when you join a great site or network, you still have to find the content that interests you. Except all 3 sites I recommended have some really great hardcore videos. And a lot of stuff that is not so great.
REPLY TO
#1
from lk2fireone:
(rearadmiral's Reply)
Now you did it.
The last time I checked, you were miles ahead of me on the Users hit list.
But now there's a new guy in town, and I'm gunning for the #2 slot.
Watch out, because I'm smoking hot.
The Teen Fidelity site has some really hot vids.
At $9.95 for 30 days, it's a bargain.
REPLY TO
#7
from lk2fireone:
(rearadmiral's Reply)
There are many sites that give alternate names for porn models.
One of my favorites is: www.indexxx.com
It's free, and easy to use.
You can search by the model's name.
You can also search, under the "Website list" hot link, for the models that appear at a specific website.
(That is helpful for model names that are used by many different models.)
You can also build a listing of your favorite porn models, if you register for a free account.
(I've registered, and have never gotten a bunch of spam from indexxx.com, that I know of.
But I do get a bunch of spam from porn sites.)
If you want to track a model, indexxx.com will list most of the web sites she appears at.
As well as her name at each web site.
Which can be very useful.
Separately, "incest" porn seems to be very popular. By "incest", I mean step- brother, sister, father, etc.
So you can get your fix of old-young from those videos.
REPLY TO
#5
from lk2fireone:
(rearadmiral's Reply)
Teen Mega World has an Old-n-Young site.
That hasn't updated since October 2015.
But it has about 85 videos.
I'm sure you've been a member of TMW (a lot of the PU members probably have).
If you skipped the Old-n-Young site at TMW, it's probably worth a visit.
Or if you've forgotten the videos you watched.
(As I get older, I watch a lot of videos I've seen before, almost as if it's for the first time).
PU discount is $14.95 to join through Old-n-Young.
Or you can join through TMW PU discount for the same price.
Both memberships give access to all the TMW network sites.
I don't know why, but a lot of the TMW models really appeal to me. They are not made up to appear their best, and in many of the scenes the clothes and sets are cheap, but the girls are young and physically attractive and can give a hot performance.
That is strange as it still shows just 12 months, 3 months or a day trial for me.
Must be another way of trying to rip us poor saps in Europe, so tired of seeing these days prices $19.99 and $29.99 when we go and try to join it just changes the currency not the price, so becomes £29.99 ,seems so unfair.
So yeah I would think this would be just another way of making more money from Europeans. I'll pass, thinking of giving porn a break to be honest I think.
09-20-1502:10am
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