You can try emailing customer support at Fantasy Massage.
Tell them that someone at customer service at 21Sextury said that a membership at any one of the Adult Time sites gives you membership to the entire Adult Time network.
It'w worth a try.
Because that's what the customer service rep told me.
He did not qualify the statement by saying it has to be a full-priced membership, or length or membership, or any other qualifications.
He stated, any membership in one of the Adult Time sites gives you full access to the Adult Time network.
Which is not really true.
Because I have membership in Devils Film, my join was for 1 year in August 2017, I renewed the membership in August 2018, but I wss not given a membership in Adult Time until I joined 21 Sextury.
According to the customer service rep, I should have been given an Adult Time membership much earlier, with my Devils Film membership.
USE THE CHAT FOR EVIL ANGEL.
ASK IF THEY CAN HELP YOU GET A REFUND ON YOUR FUCKBUDDY SUBSCRIPTION.
THAT'S A LONGSHOT, BECAUSE EVIL ANGEL IS SEPARATE FROM FUCKBUDDY.
BUT THE CHAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO CONTACT SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP.
IF CHAT CAN'T HELP, CONTACT THE DEBIT ACCOUNT COMPANY, AND DISPUTE THE PAYMENT.
I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH A DEBIT ACCOUNT MYSELF, BUT MOST CREDIT CARD COMPANIES I'VE DEALT WITH HAVE BEEN BOTH FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL IF I DISPUTE A PAYMENT-AND IMMEDIATELY GIVE ME A CREDIT FOR THE DISPUTED CHARGE (AFTER ALLOWING FOR PROCESSING TIME).
JUST TELL THE DEBIT ACCOUNT COMPANY YOU ARE BEING CHARGED FOR A SUBSCRIPTION THAT YOU DID NOT INTEND TO JOIN, AND DID NOT USE THEIR SERVICES.
AND THAT THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO REFUND YOUR PURCHASE PRICE.
WHICH IS ALL TRUE.
IF DEBIT ACCOUNT TELEPHONE ACCESS SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE, THAT'S THE FASTEST WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER. UNLESS THEY HAVE A CHAT LINE OPEN.
CHAT WOULD GIVE YOU A WRITTEN RECORD OF THE PROBLEM.
FuckBuddy.nl IS NOT PART OF THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE.
EVIL ANGEL JOIN SITES (ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PORN WEB SITE JOIN PAGES) OFTEN HAVE A PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SELL.
YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY SIGNED UP TO WHAT IS A TRIAL SUBSCRIPTION TO A DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIP, UNLESS YOU UNCHECK THE PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SALE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR FUCKBUDDY.NL SUBSCRIPTION HAPPENED.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CROSS-SALE ON AN EVIL ANGEL JOIN PAGE.
YOU ARE NOT GIVING MUCH DETAILS ON WHAT HAPPENED.
IF YOU DID JOIN FUCKBUDDY.NL, WHICH YOU APPEAR TO HAVE DONE, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR: WHAT THE PAYMENTS ARE, TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP, ETC.
SO CONTACT THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT AT FUCKBUDDY.NL, AND HOPE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIVE: A LOT OF CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAMS AT PORN SITES ARE NOT RESPONSIVE, AND OFTENTIMES DON'T REPLY TO REQUESTS FOR HELP.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN USE THE CHAT AT EVIL ANGEL. WHICH IS NORMALLY VERY RESPONSIVE. IT'S FREE.
ASK THEM FOR WHATEVER INFORMATION ABOUT FUCKBUDDY YOU NEED.
DO YOU WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF FUCKBUDDY?
THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.
CHAT IS FREE. AND IT'S MUCH FASTER THAN WAITING FOR EMAILS FROM CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
SO USE THE EVIL ANGEL CHAT SERVICE.
YOU LISTED THIS COMMENT ON THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE LISTING AT PORN USERS.COM.
FuckBuddy.nl IS NOT PART OF THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE.
FuckBuddy.nl IS A DATING SERVICE. FOR SEX. BUT THEY STATE THEY ARE NOT A DATING SERVICE. BUT A HOOK-UP SERVICE FOR SEX.
(IT'S A DUTCH SERVICE, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LOST IN THE TRANSLATION OF WHAT IS DATING, WHAT IS HOOK-UP FOR SEX.)
SO, SOMEHOW, YOU SIGNED UP FOR THEIR DATING SERVICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMS ARE, MEMBERSHIP FEES, WHATEVER.
YOU NEED TO CONTACT THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO FIND OUT THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU SIGNED UP BY MISTAKE, PERHAPS YOU CAN CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
Thanks, Amanda.
PU/TBP (but mainly PU) is the number one source for information and discounts to porn sites for most of us PU members.
We already knew you folks were looking out for us.
But you said it best, when you wrote: "We try our hardest to provide assistance in all manners for our community, including customer service when needed."
I assume you are located in Europe, which is why they are charging you in Euros.
I'm located in the US.
My Porn Users link to the site leads to a join page where the price is $14.95 USD for the first 30 days.
After 30 days, membership renews at $39.95 USD every month.
I would contact the biller, which is probably FAMECARE.COM.
Tell them the membership fee you agreed to was 39.95, and not 47.54.
If you are willing to pay 39.95/month.
If not, just cancel the membership immediately. Definitely cancel before you are charged the higher rate.
You should have site access until your 10 membership fee term runs out at 30 days.
Actually, I personally would just cancel my membership anyway.
And re-sign-up at a later date at the 10 rate.
If I couldn't sign-up at the 10 rate later, I would just skip the site.
Even 39.95 seems like a high price to pay. For me, anyway.
There are plenty of other sites that are less expensive.
FAMECARE.COM has a chat line.
(They also have a telephone line, and an email. But the chat line is available, and very fast.)
I tried the chat line today, they answered almost immediately. And the operators are very helpful.
I asked what the membership fee to Evil Angel is, they told me within a few seconds.
They also gave me a code for a 50% reduced fee membership (for the first 30 days).
That membership would renew at 39.95.
So, famecare seems fast, helpful, responsive.
I had a similar experience when I cancelled my subscription to Fame Digital network.
I called a toll-free number, and got a recorded message all the representatives were busy. I left my telephone number. That was a few days ago, and I don't think they ever called me back.
But I found a link on one of their sites that let me cancel through a webpage, and I got a confirming email soon after.
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-The massive improvement in the site navigation, quality of the content (money spent on nice-looking sets, photograph and video equipment to film the content in excellent lighting and professional technical standards).
-The attitude of the models: they are there to explore their sexuality: so the sex is hardcore, but without cruelty: teenage girls getting their rocks off, by themselves (masturbation), with one or more other girls (lesbian), one girl and one or more guys, whatever. These girls are up for anything, and I wish I had a few of them in my home.
I would die happy, because I couldn't possibly keep up with these sex-crazed teens.
Or maybe I should admit that these attractive teens have a healthy appetite for sex that far exceeds my body's capacity.
The people running the software are not aware of the price discrepancies.
And this one particular site has been allowed to run down:
You can no longer stream many of the videos.
A lot of the thumbnails for the videos (showing what the model looks like) have disappeared.
A lot of the photo sets for the videos have disappeared.
Many years ago, when they started this site, it was a separate join from the Teen Mega World network: You did not automatically gain access to all the sites in the network, which sites you got access to depended on which particular site you joined.
And the actual number of sites, and specific sites in your membership, was unknown.
Since then, they have improved the network immensely, making it easier to use, improving the quality of the videos and photo sets.
But the most recent network update was a step back.
They made navigation harder and more time consuming, to access the content at the different sites, to search the content at the different sites.
I still like the network, but not as much as I used to.
And they raised the yearly membership fee: I've bought year-long memberships several times.
Pat sums it up neatly.
But I was curious to see the contents of Ex GF Box. And my previous membership in Teen Mega World did not include the Ex GF Box site.
Thanks for the reply, pat. I was a member of Teen Mega World myself for several months recently. On the signup page for Teen Mega World, it says you get 25+ bonus sites. One of those bonus sites is WMB Girls, which is just a clone or something of Teen Mega World, because it's a gateway to the other sites like Teen Mega World, and neither site (WMB Girls and Teen Mega World) has any content of its own.
But like I said, Teen Mega World signup page states 25+ bonus sites included with membership.
Ex GF Box signup page states 30+ bonus sites included with membership.
So I was just wondering what the specific sites were that are included with the Ex GF Box membership.
But I think you are probably right that the main difference between joining through Teen Mega World and joining through Ex GF Box is that Ex GF Box is not included in Teen Mega World. There is also a higher monthly price if joining through Ex GF Box.
And I think a lot of Ex GF Box is old content from other sites. Because I recognize some of the advertising photos for Ex GF Box as old photos I've seen before (from Nubiles, I think).
When kiddoc posted in a comment at PU that he could not get in to the new exgfbox site with a membership to Teen Mega World, the webmaster posted this reply, on March 09, 2011:
Stas RC Webmaster "Please write to our tech support, and we`ll fix this problem"
So it seems very clear that the webmaster thought that a membership to Teen Mega World was supposed to allow access to exgfbox.
But it's not that major of a deal. If I can't get in, so be it.
I understand the logic of what you are saying: Put out a new site, and unless you join specifically through that new site, do not allow access to that site with membership from an older site.
However, the network didn't follow that route with Beauty Angels or Squirting Virgin. When they opened those two sites a few months ago, they almost immediately included them in a membership of Teen Mega World.
And the Webmaster of the site specifically implied, in a response to a comment by a PU member, that membership in Teen Mega World should give access to this new site, Ex GF Box.
Like I said in my review of this site, there are lots of yummy models. Skinny white teens, very little variation in body types.
But the site navigation is poor. The girls are not presented attractively in the videos or photosets. The same models can be found at many other sites, where they appear much more attractive.
You get bonus sites with a membership to any site in this network. But most of the sites stopped updating years ago.
And it's hard to believe, but the navigation at some of the other sites in this network are even worse than at this site.
My recommendation is to save your money for a site or network you might like.
I posted a comment at PU (this site) on Aug 11, 2009 about how photoflashes by photographers ruin some of the videos. I also said that the artsy style of the photography is an acquired taste. The site has both good and bad points. So it's up to the viewer whether he wants to pay for a site membership.
Regarding lack of response to emails requesting help, that's a problem at other sites as well. And I have posted at PU when I did not get a response to emails requesting help at different sites.
So your experience is not unique. And it's helpful when you state your opinions clearly, so other PU members can decide whether a site is worth joining.
I did not disagree with your review. I was merely pointing out that some PU members enjoyed the site and gave it good scores (in spite of any minor problems they may have had).
But your experience at the site was poor, and that results in a lower score.
Welcome to PU. Interesting review. Sorry you had such a poor experience with this site. Porn is very much a matter of personal taste. The previous PU reviews all gave this site pretty high scores, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
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You would think that the search engine at Adult Time and Fame Digital would be the same, but obviously they are not.
But even with the false positives at Fame Digital, the search has been massively improved, because you no longer have to try to search each individual site separately, and then try to page through each site pages to find her hot link thumbnails.
There are other improvements with the Adult Time structure: it's now much easier to search the contents of each site.
Even though Adult Time has over 100 channels (Adult Time calls its sites channels), you can select a channel/site and manually explore the site page by page.
Navigation has improved massively.
However, there is so much content at the Adult Time network, that it can get confusing and overwhelming.
So patience is needed to find the content that appeals to you.
However, that is a good thing: There should be a huge amount of good to excellent content at the network. And it's available at a very low price.
So I'm giving Fame Digital a score of 97.
That's because:
-You should get access to the Adult Time network.
-The navigation has improved massively. It's now much easier find the content, to view the content. To switch between sites.
-The low price of membership.
-The 50,000 plus hardcore videos contain a lot of good to really excellent porn.
Basically, I gave the Fame Digital network a score of 85 before. That was being generous, because even though I reported on the navigation issues, I found a lot of hot sex at the Rocco Siffredi site, with some very attractive models.
But now, with Adult Time access included, and improved navigation, the score rises to 97.
In my opinion, Adult Time is a fantastic bargain for porn consumers.
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Because the Adult Time network is the main value of the porn collection: far greater than the value of any one of its member sites or member networks.
Besides folding Fame Digital into the Adult Time network, what else has changed?
The Fame Digital network navigation has improved massively.
Fame Digital did a network upgrade a few years ago.
That made using the network much harder:
The boundaries of the individual sites in the network were blurred: You could not fully enter each site as a separate site: when you logged in to the site you joined, you stayed logged in to that site, even when you switched to a different site in the network. So, trying to examine the site contents was confusing, because thumbnails of videos from other sites were on the web page.
Also, the search was messed up: You enter a model's name, and only her content at the site you joined was returned: not her content at the entire network.
Also, to bring up her content, you not only had to know what sites her content was located in, but you had to switch to each site separately, and then manually page through the site pages to find her hot links, because the search function was poor, and you had to use the hot link of the model's video to bring up her video.
So it was difficult and time consuming to find, locate, and view the model's content.
Enter Adult Time:
It's almost like entering heaven.
You put in a model's name, and you get her content at all the Adult Time network.
With hot links to all her content, that you can click on bring up her videos.
It would take hours or days to find her content at the old system.
Now it takes a minute or less.
There are still some bugs that have to worked on in the Adult Time and Fame Digital networks.
I have a membership in Adult Time, that I got through my 21 Sextury membership.
I also have a membership in Devils Film, which was supposed to give me an Adult Time membership (since Devils Film is an Adult Time site), but failed to give me an Adult Time membership.
When I log in to the Adult Time network, and do a search for a model, the search is excellent: it returns the model's content throughout the Adult Time network.
When I log in the Devils Film network, the browser address bar shows famedigital.com. Fame Digital has been folded into the Adult Time network.
But when I search for a model's name, the search returns not just the model's content at the Adult Time network, but also a lot of false positives (models with the same first or last name).
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