But I think you're right. The site was designed "to feed my curiosity - but not my libido."
Which is why I said that the erotic scenes lack impact.
What was erotic in the movie, is now a snippet of naked flesh that has lost the eroticism that made it meaningful.
Excellent bottom line summary:
"The site is what it is. You get a well run inexpensive site but not one to sign up for to get off. If you are just curious to see the stars, you may find it interesting. On the other hand, if you are a fan of a particular star, you probably already saw the scenes that are here. Now you can own that 20 second clip."
That was my main knock against the site: the clips which feature nudity lose the impact of the scene or nudity because they are so short, without the setup that the movie or other source provides.
Also, many of the scenes seem to be low definition, and have lost the crispness of the original source material. So for porn, that loses a lot of impact, as well.
What I found out from personal experience.
I signed up through Rocket Pay (I'm not using the official name, I'm not bothering to check at the moment) to some MetArt satellite site years ago.
Then, a few months ago, I did once of the 2-day free trials for a different MetArt site.
The default biller was RocketGate.
And I didn't have to give any credit card information.
RocketGate had kept my credit card information on file over the years, from the MetArt site I signed up with years ago.
So RocketGate might have the credit card information you gave them, from years ago, if you signed up to any site using RocketGate as the biller.
I don't know if CCBill and Epoch are the same.
If they keep your credit card information once you give it to them, or if it's only kept for active porn memberships.
But the system RocketGate uses, I suspect, once you use a credit card to pay for a subscription, they might keep the credit card data on file. And I don't know how you would check if they have it on file.
Or whether you can ask them to delete it, if it is on file.
I mean, you can ask RocketGate to delete your credit card information, but legally, they might have the right to keep it anyway.
Thanks for the information.
I haven't been keeping up with what is being offered lately.
But Comcast is not available in my area.
(I live in Los Angeles County, norther part of the county.)
Spectrum and AT&T are the basic choices for internet service in my area.
I used to be with Spectrum, but currently with AT&T.
But I'm probably going to switch back to Spectrum.
Because, for me, my ATT contract is for 75 Mbps.
But I use the Wi-Fi for my laptop.
And the Wi-Fi speed often drops to less than 1 Mbps, which is lousy.
With a 100 Mbps connection at Spectrum, my Wi-Fi speeds ranged from 8Mbps to about 22 Mbps, so that's why I switched to ATT.
Which I thought would be faster.
But there is some wiring problem with my house, which the installation tech mentioned.
And that's why my Wi-Fi speeds average less than 1 Mbps to maybe 5+ Mbps, which is lousy. Since I'm paying for a 75 Mbps connection speed.
Thanks for the info.
I will drop by my local Spectrum office to see what the plans and pricing are.
On the internet, Spectrum says 100 Mbps is what they offer.
But will check at the local office, for better information.
But great that you mentioned what is available in your area.
I've read that Spectrum is rolling out faster internet connections, but I don't know specifically if they are offering it in my area, and what the charges would be.
The basic offering is 100 Mbps, no data cap. For $45/month.
Which is not bad.
But 1GB seems like Zoom-Zoom to me.
WTF?
1GB connection?
I live in LA county (CA), and the fastest speed from Spectrum is 100 Mbps. (I think).
I need to call around to see what's available.
I've never used a payment processor to initiate a sub with a porn paysite.
I've used RocketGate in the past.
Some of the sites in the MetArt network use RocketGate, so I assume they are a reputable biller.
I've used RocketGate for years, for 1 or 2 subs. Never had a problem.
So I suggest unticking the pre-checked cross-sale, and sign with RocketGate.
As far as pre-checked cross-sales, almost every porn site I've joined had a pre-checked cross-sale on the join page.
I think I've only found one porn site that did not have a pre-checked cross-sale on the join page: that's one site out of maybe 100 different sites I've joined.
But this is a holiday season (Easter). I suggest looking for a site that is running a holiday discount. There are many that are discounting their regular price. 50 to 75 % off is a great deal.
AdultTime.com is running a special where you get 7 days free, streaming only. Check it out, then if you like the site, cancel the free membership, and join for a discounted price. During the holidays, they often have specials for about $65/year, or $10/month (the $10 might be only for the first month).
Adult Time is a huge network, one of my favorites: low price, quality videos and photos, wide variety of niches.
I've been dinged a few times by billers when I didn't find a pre-checked cross-sale, but never had the persistence to get them to reverse the charge. But it was always small change, 2 or 3 dollars.
But I'm glad you're sticking up for the rest of us.
You need to contact the billing agent and explain the situation: that you are unable to get service, that you cancelled your membership, and are still being billed.
If nothing else, you should not be billed again.
And, you should be able to cancel past payments, if you have an email or documentation that you cancelled your membership.
You didn't specify who the billing agent is.
Look at your credit card statement: that should give you the name of the billing agent, and a contact point (telephone number, web site URL).
Contact the PU staff. They might be able to offer help on the issue. But you will need to give details on the billing agent, and maybe some of your membership details (login name, whatever).
I used the toll-free telephone number to cancel.
The process was simple and fast.
Press 0 to talk to customer service.
I was connected to an agent, who asked my name.
I gave it to her.
She cancelled my membership.
Bing.
I got a confirming email immediately.
Fast and simple.
So, if I was scoring the site, I would give it an A for easy cancellation (if you check your credit card statement for the billing agent-which shows the billing agent URL and phone number).
Otherwise, I didn't know who the billing agent was, or how much they would charge for membership rebill.
But thanks to pointing out the need to cancel. I would probably have forgotten to, since I have too many memberships to keep track of what I have.
Since you are in Canada, the phone number I gave you for was the US.
Read the following text from the 413 web page:
It gives you an email address, and a phone number for calls outside the US.
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http://413prod.com/
Hello. This is 413's Customer Service web page.
We are here to assist you. Our customer service staff is happy to answer any questions or resolve any problems. We want to service you the best way possible.
If you have a charge from our company (413prod.com or 413pro) on your credit card statement and wish to inquire or if you tried to reach us by phone and were unsuccessful (see business hours below), please e-mail us at: support@413prod.com - We will respond within 48hrs.
If you are having any technical difficulty with any of our websites, please e-mail us at: webmaster@413prod.com - We will respond within 48hrs.
Thank you.
Our business hours are:
Monday through Friday 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM Pacific Standard Time.
Within United States call us toll free at 866-413-3222
I checked my credit card bill for the membership price.
The biller is listed as 413PROD.COM
The telephone number for the biller is 866-413-3222
That should help you cancel your membership.
(check the statement of the credit card you used to sign up with. That should give you the same info, so you can cancel using the phone number listed.)
I joined the Teen Fidelity site (and got the other 2 sites included) about the same time you joined.
During the sign-up process, the sign-up page disappeared after I entered my details (email, credit card, etc.).
So I don't know who my biller is.
The confirming email I got did not list/show what the rebill price.
But thanks for the heads-up.
I should try to cancel immediately, because I don't know what they will charge for the rebill price, and I don't know who my billing agent is.
The Teen Fidelity site itself is great, but like you say, who the heck is the biller, and how do you cancel?
I think that Pure Taboo and Teen Fidelity are best in class for the cinematic quality of their porn videos.
Both sites feature hardcore porn with high production values.
And both sites inject a plot element that heightens the impact of the porn.
You have to let your mind go a little, to enjoy the story/action. But the sites are creating what I think of as artistic or cinematic porn on the dark side.
I think that some of the videos at the Pure Taboo site are impressive.
Some might dismiss or not appreciate the artistic approach to hardcore porn.
And some of the plot lines can be foolish.
But the site tries to create a perverted sense of hardcore porn, that I find valuable. It's like watching early visions of The Twilight Zone, done in hardcore style.
So I disagree with professional porn reviewers, who score the site in the 70s. The site has some videos that are worth watching: you are watching movie-quality porn (except the acting or plot can be funky).
Excellent review.
Nice overall view.
Nice details on the content.
My only suggestions or disagreements:
I didn't get the heartcore feeling from the sites or videos: Yes, the sex is mainly friendly, not rough or cruel. But it's mainly a guy and girl or a guy and two girls having fun while having sex. Not a lot of romance or seduction. So not heartcore.
Also, I believe that it should be pointed out that anyone joining the TMW network should join through the TMW site itself: because the site navigation and the search function work so much better at that site.
If you join through one of the satellite sites, the search function is limited to the site you joined through: that means the search only returns content from your join site, not from the entire network. That also means, that if you switch to a different site in the network, your search still returns only content from your join site, instead of from the site you are currently logged in to.
Whereas, if you join through the TMW site directly, the search function returns content from the entire network. Making the search function much more efficient, if you are searching for the content of a specific model.
It seems obvious to me that the PU staff should ban the webmaster from the PU site.
He is making repeated personal attacks on PU members.
Not in a professional manner.
Which should not be allowed to continue.
If he had behaved in a professional manner, it would be a different matter.
But this is a ridiculous dogfight, that detracts from the spirit of co-operation and friendship of the PU community.
The PU staff needs to see what is happening, and ban the webmaster. Before it gets any worse. Enough, already.
That's a new one om me.
Why would a download service charge if you're not a member of the site?
Can you still download, if you aren't a site member?
Or maybe they figure, once a member, always a member, even when you can't access the site, but are still willing to support the site by paying for a download service you can't use?
Site stats:
151 vids
Most vids come with an accompanying photoset.
The photosets are probably made as screencaps from the video, but the quality is good: the model is focused in the photo, the photo is not as crisp as I would like, but it's far better than the screen caps posted from years ago. The colors are OK, not great. I personally would not collect these photosets, even when the models are cute. Because I would want a better set of photos.
There is a zip file for each photoset. But the zip file only comes in one definition. And as I said, the photosets are not worth collecting, even when the model is cute.
The site updates with 1 or 2 videos per month. But the network updates with 1 video per day. So you get a huge amount of teen hardcore videos at the network (over 5,000 videos, over 1,380 teen models).
There is little to distinguish this teen hardcore site from any other teen hardcore site.
It's basically teens fucking and sucking.
The site strengths are the models are mainly cute, and they are enthusiastic about fucking.
But because you get access to the rest of the TMW network, I'm giving the site a score of 90.
Without network access, the score would be much lower.
Banks, credit card records, etc. are being hacked massively, leading to billions of dollars in losses each year.
But the losses would be far greater if HTTPS was hacked.
However, there are all kinds of tricks hackers can use, to get around many computer safeguards.
Which is one reason for hacking: to make a lot of illegal money.
So, even though you are in Canada, your complete internet history (whatever sites you visited, how much time you spend at these sites, is recorded in US, and Chinese, and Russian, and who knows who else's databases.
But if a site is secure (mainly banks and other financial institutions, but also commercial sites like Amazon, and, hopefully, any site you give your credit card data or other sensitive data to.
And porn sites (many porn pay sites and even PU and TBP) are switching to secure HTTPS.
That means, your ISP keeps a record of your visit to each site, but not the member pages you have visited. The member pages are hidden by the HTTPS.
So, the US government knows you visited, let's say, Porn Fidelity, but does not have a specific record of which pages at the site you visited, or how long you spent at each page, or how much you downloaded from the site. Those details are hidden by the HTTPS.
As far as my Discover Card being declined: Porn Fidelity says it accepts the Discover Card for payment.
Usually, when a credit card is declined, it's because the Credit Card company declined the transaction. Most credit cards use an algorithm (a computer program) to make the decision to decline a possible transaction. The main reason is suspected fraud.
It wasn't the Porn Fidelity site, or their billing agent, that declined your transactions: it was, almost certainly, the credit card companies themselves.
You could, in some instances, have your credit card account blocked by the credit card company.
How the credit card company deals with possible fraud transactions varies by the specific company.
Sometimes, when your credit card is declined, you can call the credit card company, and tell them that the specific transaction is valid, and you want the payment to go through.
But like I said, the decline is automatic, done by computers, mainly because the credit card company suspects any porn transaction could be fraudulent (some unauthorized user hacked your account numbers).
No big thing.
The HTTPS means your ISP does not have access to the actual pages you visit, when a site uses HTTPS. They have a record of the site, but not the actual pages.
That is the value of HTTPS.
If your ISP had a record of the actual pages you visit hidden by the HTTPS, the world would be far more dangerous.
That would mean that hackers, who already make billions in theft from computers, would have easy access to your financial records, and there would be even more financial fraud than there already is.
Bank records, credit card records, etc. would all be exposed to hacking, if the HTTPS was not secure.
When I hit the PU hot link for "Browse Users", even though we both have the same number of points, your name is listed first.
I am considering sending a private email to Freddie, to complain about the listing order: my name comes before yours in the alphabet, so I should be listed first, and since you are from Canada, which Trump (our dearly beloved President) has revealed to be an enemy of the United States, that is a double reason why I, a US citizen, should be ahead of you in any fair-minded listing.
(Just kidding. Although I've never been to Canada, I might want to visit, one day.)
HTTPS pages are secure. That means your ISP, which keeps a record of your internet usage, only has a record of the site you visit, and the times you visit. Which information is turned over to the US spy agencies (mainly NSA, I believe). Read a little bit about Edward Snowden, who disclosed that NSA spies (keep massive records) on almost all US citizens (and other people throughout the world).
That includes all public and, I assume, many private, records.
US spy agencies (and Russia, China, and other countries) keep these records in massive databases.
There are high-level programs that use these databases to search for whatever.
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