I would love to direct porn, but as for being a part of it, not so much. As pointed out by others, the fantasy of the porn star is always attractive, but the reality of it is usually less glamorous.
Well - I take it back, I was at first thinking traditional "Silicone Valley" porn - but some of the sites on Kink.com wouldn't require me to be in the nude in front of a crowd - Fucking Machines for instance - of course that would be damn similar to directing porn like I mentioned above. But still, I suppose I would be interested in taking part of that sort of thing - it would be an interesting experience, no doubt about that.
The real question is: What would be your breaking point with Ms. Knowles? Pissing? Feces? Sacrificing a goat? ...while pleasuring it? (hmmm, this reminds me of the "I never" skit with Quagmire on Family Guy)
Haha - honestly, you can pick pretty much any random action and there will be some people (men or otherwise) out there that are aroused by it. I think the infamous "2 Girls 1 Cup" video is evidence to that effect.
As for me personally, if the performers are into the aforementioned spitting act, yeah, I like to watch it. As I said before, there are times when people obviously don't like it but still take part in it - and that just isn't fun for me.
And as for aggressive replies to your comments - I don't see why people would get that upset. Anyway - one thing I can definitely say for you Pinche, you're opinions are always very consistent! I've never seen any one of the other users focus on specific topics as much as you, lol Anyway - you've obviously got a specific vision in your mind as to what you want to see in porn - you are out in California, start a porn website! I'd subscribe for at least a month or two to check it out :-)
I find the responses this poll has generated interesting. Of the 21 votes at the time of writing, not one was cast unequivocally for spitting, yet 17 votes were against it with 1 indifferent and 3 for it in certain conditions. 17 votes - 81%. Reading through the replies, all who bothered to write talked about how much they hate it. I found it fitting that not 4 days ago the online comic PVP found spit an interesting topic: http://www.pvponline.com/2008/02/02/spit-take/
But I digress. What interests me more, is how prevalent in porn people feel spitting is. If you've read my reviews and posts in the past I'm sure you've guessed correctly how I've voted - but I'm fascinated by how much people are focusing on this. I wouldn't have thought spitting would attract so much attention. Especially with the popularity of blow jobs - a hell of a lot of saliva is involved in that folks, even if the model is careful to swallow frequently.
I'll admit, I don't like spitting on the camera lens - but a large reason for that is that it obscures the image and it is also jarring - sort of like if they threw a book at the lens as well (like in the old 3D movies). Thinking about it, I suppose there is a lot of saliva being added to porn these days, but I don't really notice it too much. Graphic, excessive spitting (like the models spitting into each others' mouths) entirely depends on the reactions it garners from the models - some are into it, some are pretty obviously not. I enjoy watching people have a good time and enjoying the activity - however if they are disgusted by what is happening - then the entertainment value is lost for me. Specifically the emotion of disgust, though.
Another thing people may forget, despite the popularization of various sexual lubricants, Saliva is a wonderful lubricant. It is 98% water, but more importantly, it contains Mucus. Mucus doesn't dry out or get absorbed too quickly and from a healthy human it is relatively colorless and odorless. You can actually hear an industry professional laud the qualities of saliva in a fisting class for Kink.com: http://news.behindkink.com/blog/default/2008/01/15/
Looking at the universal distaste for spitting, but not necessarily saliva directly (as in the blowjobs) it appears to be a cultural taboo that is more far reaching than I would have guessed. I'm certain a grad student could have a great time writing up a paper about the origins of the offensive nature of spitting. I know many people would rather be punched in the face than be spit in the face. Unless the person had Hepatitis or some other infectious disease, I'd take the spit. And if performers in the heat of the moment spit on each other, I'll happily watch it - because it is just a bit of fun, nothing to be taken too seriously.
Generally if 10 minutes have gone by, other people have responded to the topic or reply and if I need to add anything I'll also be making some remark relating to the new replies as well, so a new reply of my own is reasonable. Most of the time, errors aren't an issue as I'm pretty careful about reading my reply before posting it. All in all, I think the 10 minute expiration is a good idea and keeps the posts fresh.
I haven't read anything about them using mo-cap for their movements, however they are pretty damn good. Sometimes you will some clipping issues, an elbow passing through the floor or if using two female models with large breasts, the breasts sometimes will pass through each other. But the actually movements are very smooth and even have a bit of variability built in to give the illusion of random movement. It as natural as most Anime - so not really human exactly, but smooth enough to make it interesting to watch.
The clipping problems can be an issue, but generally they don't show up too much, and its better than the other programs I've used. They often don't transition between positions because the models will have to move to a different part of the room, or flip over. So there's definitely room for improvement, but the movement is pretty good. I believe you can download a demo try out the program and see what you think.
I wish they upgraded the textures for high resolution machines and ironed out all of the clipping issues and maybe added threesomes - but hey, one step at a time I guess.
Sorry, I would have responded to this earlier had I noticed.
I've tried PlaySexGame, 3D Playmate, Virtual Hottie 2, eGirl and Dream Stripper - as well as 3D Sex Games of course. 3D Sex Games is by far and above the best - the only games that I've seen rival or best them come out of japan - and they have to be heavily modified by users to make them uncensored.
3D Playmate is really awkward to use and falls easily unto the "Uncanny Valley" as certain motions are very unnatural (Virtual Hottie 2 has this problem too with a characters jaw moving or other strange movements) - 3D Sex Games avoids this problem with better movement and an approximated Anime look that makes the models easily attractive.
PlaySexGame is a great start but the graphics are quite low res and use basically no 3D acceleration as it takes place all in browser. Plus there is only one model that you simply drop into various situations - though you can change clothes, hair, et cetera. If they made a stand-alone program that took advantage of the powerful gaming machines out there - then they'd have something.
Virtual Hottie 2 tries and fails miserably - the user interface is terrible and it really isn't efficient in its code - I had trouble running it and my computer can crush games like COD4. I had high hopes for this game, but alas it was really just a test of your patience using it. Plus the login system was a pain in the ass.
Dream Stripper - amazing graphics, simply the best. But it is just a stripping game, plus the transitions between moves can be rough - the model will sometimes slide along the floor without moving her feet to get over to the pole, or sometimes instantly appear in a different position. Some of this has been fixed in the new version I've heard, plus they have more than one model now.
eGirl is a wonderful idea, mo-cap (Dream Stripper uses mo-cap too) capable of super high-res graphics, advanced textures and lighting and so on. It basically featured one model stripping and masturbating, with plans for multiple models later. They have been stuck in development forever - who knows if they'll ever make significant progress.
So 3D Sex Games provides semi-regular updates, isn't creepy as hell, runs relatively well (that had some bugs a while back, but it is out of Beta now), has multiple models and so on. The only sad thing is they got rid of their super cheap price so now it is back to $30 a month, which makes it a bit harder to justify.
I definitely expect to see the model's face - granted a model can have an impressive body, but an attractive face is the number one most important thing for me.
In fact, a recent study pointed out that most humans react this way. A lovely British science magazine called "New Scientist" had a short article about a study into the factor of the face or the body in a person's overall attractiveness. About 50% of the attractiveness was based on the face. You can check out the article here: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn11833
But studies aside, I find from an artistic stand-point continually cropping out the model's head gets repetitive and boring fast. Unless the project is to focus directly on some specific body part, I quickly begin to focus only on finding a shot that shows the models face - and get annoyed when I can't. Sure, you can pull the "mysterious" card - but unless the body is outrageously hot - it isn't going to work for me. The basic fact is that most humans enjoy looking at faces - be it humans or animals - how many kitten calendars are out there with the animal climbing out of some ridiculous location but looking directly at the camera? Babies even track faces automatically (Autistics aside).
I don't recommended producers the path of hiding the face unless they are keenly aware of what they are doing.
Currently I use Windows XP to organize the files. I used to separate the content into Photo & Video folders first, but so many mixed media sites exist now that I simply organize it by the production company. Then I make a folder within that with the model's name and the folder features a screen shot of the model - usually this can easily be pulled off the site and then you just set the folder's photo in the properties. Photo sets get their own folders in the model's folder, and the videos reside in the main folder.
If you are looking for a specific model this works pretty well, unfortunately, it doesn't organize it by the content well. I'm going to see about trying out ACDSee to organize it all as you are able to assign keywords and other nifty organizational features - plus the program now supports video too.
Backing Up the data is always a pain in the ass whatever way you go about it - be it DVDs or whatever. I recently lost a drive, so I think I'm going to try a mirrored RAID array setup next. Or I'll just live with it whenever the gods of entropy claim another one of my drives... which is more likely.
I agree that DVDs have many difficulties, but if you want to go the DVD route - Taiyo Yuden is the brand to go with. Sometimes hard to find, but worth the extra price - they even make archival DVDs & CDs designed to last 100 years.
Agreed - the new login system is much nicer. Plus it is network wide, so if you are a member of multiple sites on the Kink Network, you only login once for the network, not for each site as some networks still require.
I'd never heard the Mob rumor, but I do know that Peter North has never been quiet about the fact that he is bisexual. Also - for a lot of male porn stars, it is much easier to break into the Gay Porn industry as a fresh-face and then if you get a good reputation as a reliable model that performs well, you might start getting calls from directors wanting you to do male / female scenes as well. A large part of the trouble breaking into the Straight Porn industry is that the male porn stars never retire - so the demand for fresh faces is quite low. Of course the other popular route is just start your own company and make yourself the male porn star of choice - that has worked for many a name.
There really should have been an "Other (See Reply)" option - because a couple networks that I've signed up with have included Gay sites - so I suppose technically I have - but it hasn't ever been a primary choice of mine. Find it kinda boring, just not content I go hunting for.
Free sites? Yech. I do recall a time years ago when they seemed nice, but these days I can't be bothered. Ads, small photo sets, short and lousy quality videos. It is rough to say the least.
Anyway - as I am here answering this poll on a site that features the slogan "Porn reviews by the people" - I doubt it is much of a surprise that these days I exclusively surf for porn on pay websites.
Invest a spot of money and with a little bit of luck you can get exactly what you are looking for, in good time too.
Ah yes - I know what you mean. Those sorts of e-mails don't bother me as long as the site that is advertising is affiliated with the site I was (or am) a member of and as long as they have an unsubscribe link that works if I get tired of them. But networks advertising new sites have often gotten me to rejoin with those emails, so I often like them - you know, if they aren't emailing more than once a month.
How do you know it was Devils Films that sold your e-mail address? Was it a matter of the most-likely candidate or are you one of those careful users that has a new email address for each sign-up?
I just realized I joined this network (through a different site) so you might say I have a vested interest in this. Though I doubt my inbox could get all that much worse, I still nuke about 60 spam a day.
Ok - I finally got around to researching this, and while this is now my third message on the topic - I figured I'd be thorough.
None of the Kink.com sites have a monthly download limit. After finding zip in the FAQ about it - I actually contact their support guys and a customer support person named Elmer respond with this comment:
"We do not have a download limit for any of our sites. Enjoy downloading!"
No need to do any score tweaking :-) I actually can't imagine pulling over 10GB from this site unless you were just ripping all the content to look through it later.
Rarely do I have to trim photos from a set - but if I do it is almost exclusively for some mistake on the part of the photographer - entirely out of focus, unintentional motion blur, ridiculously bad lighting / excessive grain (think ISO 4 Billion), or if a position they've thrown the model in is really, really unbecoming. There are some poses that would require the model to be literally anorexic to sit in and not have a beer belly look going on. Bend a primate enough ways and eventually you'll get a beer gut, it is basic physiology.
In generally I don't edit out too much because, for one - I'm lazy, and also you might screw up the continuity of the set a bit. I will occasionally Photoshop photos to remove really bad zits or scars and that sort of thing, being that I use Photoshop professionally it only takes me a few seconds to do that and it makes the models look more like the "perfect" creatures that they are supposed to be.
Due to me being able to modify photos in such a manner, I hate when sites jump the gun on using Photoshop and "fix-up" the photos but do a really shitty job of it (like using the blur tool all over the model's face). It makes them look like they have cellophane for skin. I'd take the imperfect human look over the creepy android look any day.
Porn has become such a big business, that I think the sheer number of people involved protect much of the industry from the few abusive types that are responsible for some of the horror stories of old. Sure, I wouldn't be surprised that there are some models that later really regret doing porn - but I think the majority either enjoy it or are indifferent to it and like the money. I don't think there is much danger at all for the models and while sure some may be doing it to feed drug habits, any harmful events that may occur to them will be outside of the porn arena.
The really extreme porn I think is attractive to fewer models, but those that stay with it really are into it - I think that is the reason you often see the same models again and again, rather than the unending stream of models passing through the standard porn venues.
Still - I believe most models in porn, extreme or not, choose the occupation for its unique pluses: Good cash in your hand the day of for generally about 4 hours work (or less). Great hours, I've seen models complaining about an early shoot of 10 am - plus they usually don't work 5 days a week, though there are many that simply supplement their stripping career with porn. And for a number of models - the sex, many of them do like sex with or without a camera.
That said, I don't believe porn really causes any damage to anyone anymore (though there are exceptions in any business, not just porn). As for religious morality against it, well since I see most religious institutions as the instruments of some of the most horrific atrocities man-kind has commited - well, lets just say I'm not real concerned with their opinions on the subject.
So morally wrong - I don't believe so, no. I good investment of money - as user, nope - it is pretty much money burned - but the same can be said when I buy a DVD from Amazon. Time consuming, yes, very much so - and I'm sure I could spend my time more constructively but it entertains me and I think much of what life is about is finding good entertainment - whatever that may be for you.
To be honest, I've probably only subscribed to about 5 sites that use Epoch - and probably damn near a hundred that use CCBill (far and above my favorite), so my experience with checkout deals has probably been rather rosy by comparison. Still - I'm going to start checking closer on all the trial offers I see on checkouts (up-sells or unsavory swindles) and I'll try to determine the owners. I'm hoping this opt-out trials trend will die out soon when more and more customers start complaining about it online - but I'll report any sketchy ones I see so both users and webmasters alike can be aware of what is happening on the checkout screens.
I too have seen it on Epoch billing pages, but in this case it was BillFame.com, though interestingly enough the trial fee was billed through a different site called PABill.com. They are both owned by Dream Invest Ltd. So I guess they choose whatever name they like, I dunno.
If the billing companies are doing this without the consent of the webmasters that is extremely unsavory, but generally the trial sites seem to be owned by the same owner of the sites that I'm subscribing too, so I'm guessing it is an option the webmaster chooses. I would love for the webmaster to chime in and explain the mechanics of practice - but I'm guessing that probably isn't going to happen.
Haha - I gotta admit the retro porn did catch my eye - I have a soft spot in my heart for the porn of yesteryear. Well I look forward to your review sometime in the future - that network looks like it will be an interesting ride! lol
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