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        Good to know, I didn't realize they would try that. Though I will never purchase an upgrade for downloads. Especially if the site was deceptive about it.  
 
At that point I'm pirating as I've done in the past.
         
         
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    08-29-19  06:36pm 
                 
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                Brazzers
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        Thanks for info. Though it appears the deceptive streaming-only stuff is not exclusive to the porn portal and more indicative of all the newer sites from Mind Geek. Regardless of how you join.
         
         
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    08-29-19  06:28pm 
                 
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                Adult Time
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        Yes, trans porn is traditionally marketed to straight men. It's how you get a trans site stuck in the middle of Reality Kings, Evil Angel etc. 
 
Adult Time is great value, basically a 'Netflix of porn'. I'm somewhat skeptical if what they are doing will ultimately work long-term though. The fact that $9.95 discounts are popping up all over may not bode well. 
 
It should also be mentioned that at least some of the secondary {non-Gamma) sites are not at all complete. For instance, the Jays POV channel is over six months behind the main site.
         
         
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    08-29-19  06:10pm 
                 
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        Yes, trans porn is traditionally marketed to straight men. It's how you get a trans site stuck in the middle of Reality Kings, Evil Angel etc. 
 
Adult Time is good value , basically a 'Netflix of porn', I'm somewhat sceptical if what they are doing will ultimately work long term though. The fact that $9.95 discounts are popping up all over may not bode well. 
 
It should also be mentioned that at least some of the secondary {non-Gamma) sites are not complete, for instance the Jays POV channel is over six months behind the main site.
         
         
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    08-29-19  06:09pm 
                 
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                BaDoink VR
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                FelixTheCat's Comment            
             
         
        Thanks for the heads up.
         
         
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    08-18-19  04:18pm 
                 
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                Mylf
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        Do you have a link or at least the name of the site you recieved that deal from?
         
         
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    07-27-19  08:47pm 
                 
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                rearadmiral's Review            
             
         
        Been thinking strongly about pulling the trigger on this.
         
         
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    07-27-19  08:26pm 
                 
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                Trans Angels
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                standard's Review            
             
         
        Your off on the Epoch thing. It triggers on the 2nd attempt, some sites are like that.  
 
I still got burned though, purchased a discount subscription and it turned out to be streaming only. Nowhere before the purchase was that disclosed. I ended up cancelling straight away.
         
         
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    07-27-19  08:06pm 
                 
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                Teen Fidelity
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        That is pretty strang since I joined a couple of sites earleir this month via Epoch and I only use Visa. It's Probably just this site that has an issue. Maybe they've decided they want the Visa payments for themselve.
         
         
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    05-29-19  04:14pm 
                 
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                Reality Kings
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        You could have just used work around i mentioned around a couple years ago.  
 
Just enter the wrong cc expiration (a future date), and it will take you to Epoch (the secondary biller) You may have to do it twice to trigger. 
 
I've done it before (a while  back) with RK and still it often with Brazzers.
         
         
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    05-17-19  10:40pm 
                 
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                Brutal POV
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        Thanks for the heads up. I'm honestly suprised they are still around with all the iterations theyv'e gone through. I was mildly interested a few years back until I saw how few sites were updating for the price (and a small catalog to begin with). 
 
It seems they discard customers like they discard sites.
         
         
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    02-02-19  09:05pm 
                 
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                Reality Kings
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        I still don't understand why they decided to go with a different pricing model than even Brazzers, who who owns them. You can get Brazzers for 9.99 practically anywhwere and it includes downloads. They are the only MindGeek site that prices like this that i'm aware of.
         
         
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    01-13-19  06:51am 
                 
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                superjank's Comment            
             
         
        I typically always go to the actual biller to cancel when possible. Still does not excuse the behavior.  
 
I got burned by them on that $60 up-sell though, which is probably worse depending on how much you were over-billed. They don't even have a warning for that thing, you get charged as soon as you click.
         
         
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    12-13-18  05:50pm 
                 
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        I joined Devils Film for $9.95 through Idealgasm.  
 
https://www.idealgasm.com/deal/devilsfil...0day-pass-just-995-2 
 
However, my list of network seems to not be quite as expansive as Mbya's (based on him getting Evil Angel as well as all the sites he listed in the forum thread he started).  
 
I think they might be toying with different levels of access, as well as possibly randomly selecting customers (so they can still have a control group of customers with just individual site access to compare against). Just a theory, but the welcome page did mention something about me being "selected".
         
         
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    12-10-18  12:42pm 
                 
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                Evil Angel
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        I joined Devils Film for $9.95 through Idealgasm.  
 
https://www.idealgasm.com/deal/devilsfil...0day-pass-just-995-2 
 
However, my list of network seems to not be quite as expansive as Mbya's (based on him getting Evil Angel as well as all the sites he listed in the forum thread he started).  
 
I think they might be toying with different levels of access, as well as possibly randomly selecting customers (so they can still have a control group of customers with just individual site access to compare against). Just a theory.
         
         
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    12-10-18  12:41pm 
                 
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                Evil Angel
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        rearadmiral based on the info i got after joining Devils film this is basically in an experimental/beta testing phase right now. I had absolutely no idea I was getting access to all these other networks until after I paid (for Devils film only). 
 
My guess is they are market testing this to see if a Netflix style model (complete with "Adult Time original content") will keep members of these individual sites from cancelling. 
 
If it doesn't work they can pull the plug at any time, and customers won't be able to complain because all they committed to giving you was the individual site you joined (in my case Devils film).
         
         
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    12-09-18  08:22pm 
                 
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                Evil Angel
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                mbaya's Reply            
             
         
        Yeah i just tried logging into evil angel directly (with the same info) and it didn't work. Thanks anyway though.
         
         
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    12-09-18  08:00pm 
                 
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                Evil Angel
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                mbaya's Reply            
             
         
        I definitely see the 21 content, but I don't have access to Evil Angel, So it looks like there are some limits on it.
         
         
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    12-08-18  04:59pm 
                 
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                Evil Angel
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                mbaya's Comment            
             
         
        I was just about to comment on this. As you mentioned its basically all of the Gamma sites joined together (like voltron) to form a Mega site for one price. 
 
They aren't the first to try this. Porn Megaload has the same model, but charges a premium ($50 a month) and is not really close to this in terms of scale. 
 
It may be experimental based on the page I read after joining (through Devils film) so we'll see if it lasts. I guess the gamble is to provide such an overwhelming value that you really wont even think to cancel, similar to Netflix.  
 
Except Netflix is like 12 bucks, so we'll see. It seems to have worked out for Porn Megaload as I almost never see significant discounts on that site (and thus have never joined) so they may be on to something.
         
         
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    12-08-18  02:08pm 
                 
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                Filthy Family
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                yujin's Reply            
             
         
        You know I just now realized you guys have a form to report errors right on the site facts page. I'll use it next time.
         
         
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    11-13-18  05:56pm 
                 
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        I personally love tattoos on a women, guess i'm in the minority
         
         
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    11-12-18  05:52pm 
                 
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                Naughty America
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        That would make more sense, but isn't mentioned at all in the op's link. Plus on the join page, the top headline simply reads "Join Naughty America for this month's new releases."
         
         
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    04-30-18  07:59pm 
                 
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        Eh, unless I'm missing something that actually sounds a bit worse. Before you got 100 random videos, now all you get is the maybe 24-25 videos they will put out for the current month. Its at best a wash, depending on the makeup of the 100 vids they had previously.
         
         
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    04-29-18  06:14pm 
                 
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                bill20's Comment            
             
         
        Your mistaken they still use the same in house biller, with epoch as the backup, though there are  ways to manipulate the transaction to get to epoch.
         
         
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    02-14-18  04:36pm 
                 
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                Reality Kings
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                rearadmiral's Reply            
             
         
        They used to use epoch as their biller, but since they got bought out by mindgeek (company behind Brazzers) they've used Probiller, who i've personally not had problems with (though it's been awhile) but have seen enough horror stories to know they aren't completely legit either. I was planning on going back but not now.
         
         
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    02-14-18  04:06pm 
                 
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