Drooler, thanks for quick response on the pricing of averotica site.
You must live on the East Coast, or else you are a night owl like me. Lol.
I'm thinking of rejoining Just Teen Site for 1 month.
Haven't been a member of Just Teen Site since early 2006, and they've added a lot of pics since that time. Also gives me a chance to see the vids at Just Teen Movie.
I've read your review of Just Teen Site, and looked over the models.
I still have the photosets of Just Teen Site I downloaded back in early 2006, but the site was small back then, and it's definitely worth a second visit for me.
Drooler, did you get a special price at $24.95 for several months' membership to averotica?
If yes, can anyone else get that price, or a discounted price for averotica?
Current prices for membership at the site are listed as:
Monthly: $29.95
3 months: $49.95
6 months: $99.95
Pornusers shows a 1 year membership at $99.95, but the averotica site itself shows a 6-month membership for $99.95.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-These are uncensored Japanese videos. No mosaic or pixellation to hide the genitals.
-Easy login. Once you save your username and password, just hit the login link, enter the Captcha, and you are in.
Actually, once you enter the site, site-re-entry is automatic, without having to hit the login link.
-Attractive models. I think Japan has some of the most beautiful models in the world.
-Can stream videos in four different qualities: 240p, 480p, 720p, 1080p
-Can download the video in four different qualities: I chose one step below the highest quality, to save hard disk space.
-OK download speeds. I average between 1-2 GB/sec. My max download speed is about 5 MB/sec.
-Download managers work. I used Down Them All.
-No DRM.
-No download limits.
-They give the name of each model. There is brief listing of the models' physical characteristics.
-The videos are professionally shot: excellent camera-work, good lighting, good focus, good sound control.
-This is an easy site to use.
Cons:
-I think the cons are basically minor.
-The models have pubic hair. I don't consider this is a con. But for people who have grown up with the modern models who almost all shave their pubic hair, this could be a slight turn-off.
-A number of the videos feature vibrators: Japanese porn seems to love vibrators: tiny ones, and the large super-sized vibrators. For the pussy, for the breasts. This is a plus or minus depending on whether you like vibrators.
Bottom Line:
Site advertises 883 videos.
Site theme is Japanese models with big tits.
These Japanese models have large breasts, but not the giant breasts that some European models have. My guess is that most of the models have natural breasts, but I'm no expert on this.
They give the model's name for each video, and a brief physical description:
Mizuki Akai
Height 156 cm (61 in)
Weight 46 kg
Breast size Medium
Measurements 83-59-82
Breast factor Natural
Hair color Brown
Eye color Black
Birth date 4 April 1991
Birth place Japan
Ethnicity Japanese
Official website N/A
Note: although her breast size is listed as "medium", I would consider her breast size as large. Especially for a Japanese model. Japanese women normally have small breasts, and Mizuki Akai's breasts would be considered large for a normal American. Not super large, but definitely on the large size.
Most of the models I saw had large breasts. Not super-large, but very nice-sized "large" breasts. Natural. Not plastic. No evident surgical scars. The breasts move naturally when the models move.
The plot/action is minimal: the girls are lightly dressed, they soon are naked, and they have sex with one or more guys.
There is cunnilingus, blowjob, lots of kissing and fingering (something the Japanese do much more than European or American porn models), lots of ehahhs, aihhhs, uuuuhhhs sounds from the Japanese models to show they are excited by the
sex.
The large breasts swing and jiggle and shake and bounce when the model moves--which is really nice, because with a lot of European models with big breasts, the breasts seem more like bolted-on pieces of flesh which hardly move when the model
moves. I enjoy natural breasts, although some people love large breasts and don't seem to care whether the breasts are natural or plastic.
Anyway, even though big breasts are the theme of the site, the focus is more on regular sex. There is not a lot of breast-fucking, or even a lot of titty-sucking. This is mainly a site that focuses on normal sex: guy kissing and licking and fingering the pussy, fucking the pussy, girl licking the penis or giving a partial blowjoy, whatever.
My overall site impression is that Japanese women with large breasts are having sex.
It's just a man or men having a good time with a Japanese woman. She moans a lot in the Japanese manner, but aside from that, the sex is very little different from American or European sex. The sex is not harsh or violent or kinky or
sadistic. It's clear that the woman is there to enjoy the sex. This is not heartcore or glamcore. It's almost like a toned-down Teen Mega World site, except that the models appear slightly older than the teens at Teen Mega World, and the
sex is less forceful.
Do not join this site if you are looking for the super-sized breasts that some models have.
Do not join this site if you are looking for a site that features sex focusing on large breasts, and whatever games might be played with super-sized breasts.
Do join this site if you want to see attractive Japanese models with large breasts who are having sex. But the sex is basically mild. (Maybe I'm too jaded, because seeing a woman in a room servicing four men with blow jobs and some sensual fucking, no longer seems that extreme to me.)
Giving the site a score of 80. The site has professionally shot videos of attractive Japanese models having sex. If the sex were hotter, I would give it a higher score. But this is a nice site.
You keep coming up with all these off-the-wall sites. Don't mean this site specifically, but where are we supposed to come up with the money to try them all? :)
Some web sites don't use zip files, to reduce the chance of piracy. But a web site that posts zip files that their subscribers can't open is obviously more intelligent than a non-zip web site. This way, the pirates will waste their time trying to crack the un-usable zip files, instead of trying to steal the individual photos and videos.
Not replying to emails for customer support might also be part of the piracy defense.
Some pay sites I've joined don't answer emails. I can't say what percentage, because I rarely send emails to the pay sites I join, but there have definitely been times, when I had a problem and I emailed support, that I got no reply.
I know you've had similar experiences.
The old expression, "grin and bear it", seems to apply.
Brings back fond memories of looking at photos on a CRT monitor.
Actually, my LCD monitor recently went out, and I'm now using an old CRT monitor I still have, until I buy a new LCD monitor replacement.
The LCD monitors really have a much better image than the old CRT monitors (or maybe I'm just talking about all the spots on my old CRT monitor that I am currently using).
Thanks for the tip.
Most of the sites I join use CCBILL or EPOCH, and I've never had any trouble cancelling with them.
A few sites have their own payment processors, and I'm a little leery joining them.
But if CCBILL or EPOCH is listed as a secondary processor for those other sites, I will definitely try your trick.
It's worth the extra trouble to get a processor that you can trust.
MBI-Probiller is not a scam processor, but they do make cancelling a subscription more difficult than CCBILL or EPOCH.
With MBI-Probiller, I opened about 4 chat boxes to talk to an agent to cancel.
2 of the chats put me on hold after a representative told me he was transferring me to an agent that could handle the cancel.
After 15 or 20 minutes, I closed those chat boxes.
On the third chat box, I waited over an hour before I closed that box, because no agent came on line.
On the fourth chat box, I got lucky. And was able to cancel my subscription. The agent tried to sell me a cheaper membership, but I kept saying no.
CCBILL and EPOCH are so much easier to use--and to cancel.
WARNING: MBI payment processor is very unresponsive.
I am trying to cancel my membership to Babes network.
Evidently, you can't use the internet to easily cancel.
They state that sending an email takes 3 business days to process.
There is no system to cancel like CCBILL or EPOCH offers.
Trying to use chat to cancel means waiting a long time before someone responds.
First, you get a representative, who says he is transferring you to an agent.
Then you wait, and wait, and wait for an agent to respond.
Cancelling should be easy, not hard.
If need be, I will have to call my credit card company, and refuse payment for the monthly charge.
Maybe it makes sense for them to make it difficult to cancel.
But it destroys customer good will.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-A large collection of attractive models, in their late teens or early twenties.
-Videos and photo sets are professionally shot: good editing, good lighting, good sound, etc.
-Models are fairly clean: not a lot of tattoos or piercings, they are young.
-Multiple choices for video downloads: ipod sp/480p/720p/1080p (MP4 format only).
-No DRM.
-No download limits.
-No site timeout issues (that I am aware of. Can be logged in to site without activity for a long time.)
-Content is exclusive.
-The content (photo sets and videos) shows the posting date to site.
Cons:
-Some hot links lead to 404: Page not found error. Try clicking the hot link a second or third time to see if the video/set will come up.
-Requires capcha to login (in addition to username and password).
-Wish the listing of models was more basic: a simple, alphabetical list of the models. They do have lists, based on top rated/most viewed/my favorites, but it would be easier to search through the models if the list was alphabetical.
-Not a lot of diversity in the models. They are basically white, young, attractive. Some PU members would wish for older models, different ethnicities, body types.
-Uncheck the pre-checked trial membership offer (on the signup page), or you will be dinged for a membership you probably don't want.
-There is a zip file for each photo set, but it comes in only 1 definition, not hi/medium/low definitions many sites offer.
-The zip file for the photo set downloads with a numerical name. Need to rename each photo set file with the model's name, plus data.
Bottom Line:
This is a glamcore site, where attractive young females egage in solo, two-somes (m-f or f-f), or occasionally, three-some sex.
I prefer the X-Art site over the Babes site. The X-Art videos seem to have more heat. The X-Art photos are just more stunning. These are both glamcore sites, but the X-Art experience is grade A, while the Babes experience is grade C. Am I
being too harsh on Babes? It has fine models, but the content is just not up to the standards of X-Art. The navigation for X-Art is simpler than the Babes site. I sound like a shill for X-Art, but I am not. Whenever I join X-Art, I pay the full price for membership (except I do look around for discounts). I have joined X-Art multiple times with a 1-year membership,
because I think it's worth the money. To join Babes for a 1-year membership would be a major waste of time and money.
I joined Met-Art with a lifetime membership, because I think that site is exceptional. The Met-Art videos are boring, but the photo sets, and the models, can be lovely.
Bottom line: If you want glamcore, join X-Art instead of Babes.
I have been dinged a few times by the pre-checked cross sales.
From my experience, what I've learned:
You can not get a refund on a pre-checked cross sale.
Even if you call the billing company within minutes of the pre-checked cross sale going through, and even if you have never used the subscription to the pre-checked cross sale site, you will still not get a refund.
The only thing you can do is cancel the subscription to the pre-checked cross sale site as soon as possible, so you won't be billed the expensive, additional charge for the cross sale site going into the monthly rate.
Because the monthly rate for the cross sale site is almost always very expensive, much more than the normal monthly rate for the site you can find elsewhere.
So it definitely pays to examine any site join page, to make sure any pre-checked cross sells are unchecked.
It makes a difference how you get to the preview page of this site.
If you use the hot links from PU/TBP to get to this site, you find working preview pages that will give you a list of the models at the site, plus samples of the videos and photos.
If, instead, you use http://www.babesnetworkDOTcom/tgp/?nats=16babes.41.2.61.0.0.0.0.0,
you get a preview page that shows thumbnails of videos. That page does not lead to any listing of models, or to any sample of videos or photos. Apparently, they put the page up on the Internet, and haven't bothered to finish the rest of the preview pages/links at that URL.
The thumbnails do lead to a signup page, so I thought the preview pages were broken. Until I stumbled across the PU/TBP links to the site.
Does membership to Bad Girl Mag give access to 7 bonus sites?
TPB states that 7 bonus sites are included with membership to Bad Girl Mag.
Does anyone know if that is correct?
When I go to the site itself, and click the join link, I do not see any mention of bonus sites as part of the membership to Bad Girl Mag.
There is a separate membership of 8Teenies Pass, which TPB lists on the review page for Bad Girl Mag. Membership to 8Teenies Pass is priced higher than membership to Bad Girl Mag. Membership to 8Teenies Pass gives access to Bad Girl Mag plus 7 additional sites.
But from what I can see, looking at Bad Girl Mag, membership to Bad Girl Mag gives access to that site only, and not to an additional 7 bonus sites.
Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
Pros:
NOTE: I AM USING CAP LETTERS, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO READ AND WRITE.
-PART OF THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK. SO YOU GET ACCESS TO THE BASIC TEAM SKEET NETWORK WITH A SUBSCRIPTION TO BAD MILFS.
-PU DISCOUNTED MEMBERSHIP PRICE OF $17.87/MONTH (RECURRING).
-CAN USE PAYPAL OR EPOCH AS THE BILLING AGENTS. PAYPAL FOR EXTRA SECURITY FOR YOUR CREDIT CARD.
-SCENES APPEAR TO BE EXCLUSIVE TO THE SITE. HOWEVER, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE WITH MILF PORN TO VERIFY THAT. I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH TEEN PORN, BUT NOT MILF PORN. SO THESE SCENES ARE ALL NEW TO ME.
Cons:
-PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SALE ON JOIN PAGE.
-TEAM SKEET SPLITS THE NETWORK INTO A BASIC MEMBERSHIP, WHERE YOU GET ACCESS TO MOST OF THE SITES,
AND PREMIUM MEMBERSHIPS, WHERE YOU ONLY GET MEMBERSHIP TO A SINGLE PREMIUM SITE. I'M GUESSING THIS IS THE STRUCTURE, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER JOINED ANY OF THE PREMIUM SITES.
BUT IT IRRITATES ME WHEN I JOIN A NETWORK AND DO NOT GET ACCESS TO ALL THE SITES.
-ADS ON EVERY PAGE.
-SMALL SITE. ONLY 16 SCENES ON 2017-07-22.
-SLOW UPDATE RATE. 2 NEW SCENES ADDED PER MONTH.
-DECEPTIVE PREVIEW PAGE FOR THE SITE. THE PREVIEW PAGE SHOWS 54 NICE-SIZED THUMBNAILS FOR THE SCENES, SO YOU WOULD ASSUME THERE ARE AT LEAST 54 SCENES AT THE SITE. BUT THE SITE ONLY HAS 16 SCENES.
-PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SALE ON JOIN PAGE.
Bottom Line:
THE SITE THEME IS BAD MILFS. OLDER WOMEN (IN THEIR THIRTIES) LUSTING AFTER YOUNGER MEN. THE YOUNGER MEN COULD BE A NEIGHBOR, OR THEIR DAUGHTER'S BOYFRIEND. SO THE MILF (Mother I'd Like to Fuck) IS A BAD PERSON.
IN TODAY'S WORLD, AN OLDER WOMAN LUSTING AFTER A YOUNGER MAN IS NOT CONSIDERED BAD: SHE'S CONSIDERED HOT, OR LUCKY. OR SMART ENOUGH TO IGNORE THE OUTMODED MORALS OF AN EARLIER AGE.
WHEN DONALD TRUMP, OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF, ADMITS HE LUSTS AFTER YOUNGER WOMEN, HE IS SHOWING HE'S A MAN'S MAN, WHO DESERVES ALL THE PUSSY HE CAN GRAB.
ACTUALLY, THIS SITE TEACHES YOU THAT OLDER WOMEN HAVE A PLACE IN THE SEX LIVES OF THEIR DAUGHTERS OR STEP DAUGHTERS, TO ACT AS A MENTOR. AND THE OLDER WOMEN CAN SPICE UP THE SEX WITH A THREESOME INCLUDING THE (STEP)DAUGHTER AND A BOYFRIEND, WITH MAYBE A BIT OF LESBIAN SEX THROWN IN.
ONE OF THE REASONS I JOIN THESE PORN SITES IS TO LEARN THE CURRENT MORALITY OF THE USA.
SO MY PORN MEMBERSHIPS SHOULD BE A TAX DEDUCTION, SINCE IT'S MY CIVIC DUTY TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ADULT MATERIALS IN MY COMMUNITY.
(JOKE)
BAD MILFS IS ONE OF THE NEWER SITES IN THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK.
THE EARLIEST SCENE IS DATED 2016-11-28.
SO ALL THE SCENES ARE AVAILABLE IN LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH AND HD (HD IS 720p) FOR STREAMING.
FOR DOWNLOADS, ALL THE SCENES ARE AVAILABLE IN LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH, AND HD (720p AND 1080p).
I BELIEVE THE NETWORK WOULD BE A BETTER BUY IF THEY ELIMINATED THE BAD MILFS SITE.
THE SCENES FEATURE A STUPID PLOT. THE PREVIEW PAGE IS DECEPTIVE. I WOULD NOT HAVE EXPECTED SUCH FALSE ADVERTISING FROM TEAM SKEET.
NORMALLY, I GIVE ANY SITE IN THE BASIC TEAM SKEET NETWORK A SCORE OF 85 OR HIGHER BECAUSE MEMBERSHIP IN ANY OF THE BASIC TEAM SKEET SITES GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE TOTAL BASIC TEAM SKEET NETWORK
(BUT NOT TO THE PREMIUM SITES IN THE NETWORK).
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE DECEPTIVE PREVIEW PAGE OF THE BAD MILFS, WHICH HAS 54 THUMBNAIL SCENES FOR A SITE THAT ONLY HAS 16 SCENES; AND BECAUSE THE PLOTS OF THE SCENES ARE SO STUPID, I'M GIVING THE SITE A SCORE OF 72.
"I just wrote a detailed review about this site but my login to PU timed out and it was lost when I submitted. Trying again....not as detailed as the first time, sorry."
I NORMALLY WRITE MY REVIEWS IN A NOTEPAD OR WORDPAD FILE, AND PASTE THEM INTO THE PU FORM.
THAT SAVES ME FROM RE-WRITING MY REVIEWS, IF THE PU LINK TIMES OUT.
OF COURSE, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT METHOD.
YOU CAN GO OVER THE LIMIT FOR NUMBER OF CHARACTERS OR LINES ALLOWED, AND THEN HAVE TO EDIT YOUR REVIEW.
BUT IT'S FAR BETTER TO WRITE THE REVIEW ON A TEXT DOCUMENT, THAN HAVING TO RE-WRITE IT BECAUSE THE REVIEW GETS LOST IN COMPUTER NETHERWORLD.
Computers can make mistakes.
So the error message that a server is mis-configured could be worthless (I sometimes get that same mis-configured error message, and ignore it: sometimes I re-send my email, and it then goes through.)
Anyway, it might be that your account was hacked. That seems to be very common, about charges to cam shows that people never watched or requested.
Or, it could be a computer error, where your mouse flicked over some link, and that's why you are getting charged.
Or some other reason.
So, my advice, have patience, but not too much: Send a message to chat, or support, that you did not request the cam shows, did not watch them, and were billed in error.
I've never dealt with ECHST.
From what I've read (you can't put a lot of weight on internet reports about payment processors), they are far less responsive or reliable than CCBill or Epoch or Vendo.
Some of their agents can be rude with dealing with customers.
So, stand your ground.
Do not pay fraudulent charges.
If need be, if ECHST does not want to give a refund, call your credit card company, and protest the charges.
And, as a last resort, have your card cancelled, and be issued a new card account with your credit card company.
(That's if ECHST continues to make charges on your card.)
Current Member for over 6 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
-FIRST MONTH IS $9.95 WITH PU DISCOUNT, RENEWS AT $29.99/MO.
-CCBILL AND EPOCH ARE THE MAIN BILLERS, BOTH ARE TRUSTED NAMES.
-MEMBERSHIP IN BANGABLE IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU ACCESS TO FUCKED HARD 18 FUCKED HARD GFS
NEW GIRL POV
Cons:
-NO SEARCH FUNCTION.
-THE SITE HAS A LOT OF VERY ATTRACTIVE MODELS. BUT IT'S HARD TO FIND ANY VIDEOS THAT ARE WORTH WATCHING.
TWO MAIN REASONS.
1. THE BULK OF THE SITE CONTENT IS SHORT VIDEOS WHERE THE MODELS DANCE IN THEIR UNDERWEAR, AS A SOFTCORE TEASE.
2. TRYING TO FIND A WORTHWHILE HARDCORE VIDEO IS TIME-CONSUMING. I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH THE TIME OR EFFORT.
-THE MUSIC ON MOST OF THE VIDS IS ANNOYING. IT'S BETTER TO MUTE THE VIDEOS.
-NO MODEL BIO.
-THE MODELS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED USE ONLY ONE NAME. SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO CATEGORIZE THE MODELS, UNLESS YOU RECOGNIZE THEM FROM ANOTHER SITE. AND MANY MODELS IN THE SHORT VIDEOS ARE NOT GIVEN A NAME.
-THE TAGS DESCRIBING THE VIDEOS ARE WORTHLESS. ON MANY/MOST OF THE TEASE VIDEOS WHERE A GIRL IS DANCING IN HER UNDERWEAR, THE TAGS SHOW: babe, Bangable, Horny, Looking for sex, Ready to Fuck, Sexy.
THAT IS FOR SOFTCORE TEASE VIDEOS, WHERE THE GIRL IS DANCING IN HER UNDERWEAR.
CONS CONTINUED IN NEXT SECTION:
Bottom Line:
CONS (CONTINUED):
THE SOFTCORE TEASE VIDEOS:
THERE IS NOTHING TO SHOW THE GIRL IS READY FOR SEX, UNLESS IT'S YOUR OWN IMAGINATION.
-THEY OFFER A DISCOUNTED MEMBERSHIP TO PORN MASTERMIND IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF BANGABLE.
HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF PORN MASTERMIND, YOU GET COMPLETE ACCESS TO BANGABLE, WITH YOUR PORN MASTERMIND MEMBERSHIP. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ERROR.
-SEPARATELY, I CAN'T ENTER THE PORN MASTERMIND SITE, BECAUSE THE LOGIN LINK IS BROKEN. IT LEADS TO A SUPPORT PAGE THAT ASKS FOR USERNAME AND PASSWORD, BUT WARNS THAT THE PAGE IS NOT SECURE, AND THAT SENDING THE USERNAME AND PASSWORD MAY COMPROMISE YOUR LOGIN.
BOTTOM LINE:
BANGABLE USED TO BE A SOFTCORE TEASE SITE FEATURING VERY SHORT VIDEOS (RUNTIME 3 MINUTES OR LESS, MANY LESS THAN 1 MINUTE) OF ATTRACTIVE MODELS WHO WERE DANCING TO MUSIC.
RECENTLY, THE SITE HAS STARTED ADDING HARDCORE VIDEOS FROM OTHER PAYSITES AS A FORM OF CROSS-ADVERTISING, AND TO EXPAND THE CONTENT OF THE SITE. THESE VIDEOS ARE FROM WELL-KNOWN PAYSITES SUCH AS JOYMII, SEX ART, WOW GIRLS, WOW PORN, ETC.
THE SITE HAS A LOT OF VERY ATTRACTIVE MODELS.
MOST OF THE VIDEOS ARE VERY SHORT, UNDER 3 MINUTES, WITH THE GIRLS DANCING TO MUSIC, WEARING UNDERWEAR OR BIKINIS.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND ANY VIDEOS WORTH WATCHING.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GO TO A TUBE SITE AND FIND A LOT OF VIDEOS WORTH WATCHING, AND THAT IS FREE.
BANGABLE CHARGES YOU MONEY FOR A SITE THAT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT.
I THINK THE SITE MADE MORE SENSE WHEN IT WAS JUST THE SHORT, SOFTCORE TEASE VIDEOS. THAT WAS MAYBE A YEAR AGO.
THEN YOU WOULD THINK, OK, IT'S JUST SOFTCORE TEASE, WITH ANNOYING MUSIC TRACKS, BUT THE GIRLS ARE YOUNG AND PRETTY.
NOW, WITH THE MIX OF SOFTCORE AND OCCASIONAL HARDCORE VIDEOS, YOU ARE LEFT WANTING SOME GOOD HARDCORE VIDEOS TO WATCH, AND IT'S HARD AS HELL TO FIND THEM. BECAUSE THE BULK OF THE CONTENT ARE THE SOFTCORE TEASE VIDEOS. AND THERE'S NO SEARCH FUNCTION, TO HELP YOU FIND THE HARDCORE VIDEOS.
EITHER SEPARATE THE HARDCORE VIDEOS FROM THE SOFTCORE TEASE, SO THE SITE IS EASIER TO USE. OR ELIMINATE ONE OF THE TWO CATEGORIES, SO THE SITE MAKES MORE SENSE THEMATICALLY. MIXING THE TWO CATEGORIES IN A RANDOM MANNER IS JUST FRUSTRATING.
BASICALLY, THE SITE IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
IF YOU HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO PORN MASTERMIND, THE PARENT NETWORK, YOU CAN BROWSE THROUGH THE BANGABLE VIDEOS TO SEE IF ANYTHING CAPTURES YOUR IMAGINATION. BEFORE YOUR FRUSTRATION GETS THE BETTER OF YOU AND YOU LEAVE THE SITE.
I HAVE ACCESS TO BANGABLE THROUGH A MEMBERSHIP IN PORN MASTERMIND.
BUT I HAVE SEEN AN ADVERTISEMENT AT BANGABLE THAT OFFERS A 40% DISCOUNT TO PORN MASTERMIND MEMBERSHIP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ERROR, OR THAT A BANGABLE MEMBERSHIP DOES NOT OFFER YOU ACCESS TO PORN MASTERMIND.
EITHER WAY, I WOULD NOT JOIN BANGABLE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GIVE VALUE FOR THE PRICE CHARGED.
WITH DIRECT MEMBERSHIP IN BANGABLE, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET ACCESS TO 3 OF THE SITES IN THE PORN MASTERMIND NETWORK: FUCKED HARD 18 FUCKED HARD GFS
NEW GIRL POV
SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW PAYING EXTRA FOR A PORN MASTERMIND MEMBERSHIP WILL GIVE YOU ANY BENEFIT, SINCE A BANGABLE MEMBERSHIP ALREADY INCLUDES MOST OF THE PORN MASTERMIND NETWORK.
ALSO, UNTIL THEY FIX ACCESS TO PORN MEMBERSHIP LOGIN, AND SOME OTHER PROBLEMS AT PORN MASTERMIND, I WOULD NOT JOIN THAT SITE EITHER. SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR A SITE WITH LESS PROBLEMS.
THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE MOST NEGATIVE SITE REVIEWS I HAVE WRITTEN.
I don't know what specific credit card companies you have dealt with.
I've dealt with Discover, Mastercard, Visa.
In the past, I've had fraudulent charges to my Discover and Mastercard accounts.
All it took was a telephone call to the card company stating that the charges were fraudulent, and the credit company dis-allowed those charges. I didn't even have to send any signed letters or forms to verify that the charges were fraudulent.
Sometimes the credit card company would issue me a new account number, with a new card. But there was never any charge for this. (For fraudulent charges to my account.)
A few times I called my credit card company (Discover, or Mastercard), disputing a charge. Not exactly fraud, but stating I didn't order the service, or for some other reason I didn't want to pay the charge.
In those cases, the credit card company dis-allowed the charge. Without any argument. Without asking for any letters or paperwork from me.
In those cases, the account was not closed, with a new account number given to me. I kept the old account number.
I've never had any problems disputing charges in the past. I don't do it a lot, but the credit card companies are friendly, courteous, and easy to deal with.
The issue of credit card companies dealing with scam sites is a separate issue.
My advice to you is to tell your credit card company you paid for a service and did not receive satisfactory service. That you want a refund. There should be no problem.
Don't bring up that this is a porn site--unless they specifically ask for that information.
Don't complain about scam sites or other issues that have nothing to do with the issue of your refund.
I've never had to prove anything to credit card companies. It's not an issue of proof. I'm not a lawyer, but my impression is that, by law, the credit card company is supposed to take your word for what happened. Sometimes they will require a written letter or document you sign.
If you paid for a trial membership to MYGF and you got no privileges for your membership, I would assume you should be able to get a refund from your credit card.
If you can neither view nor download any videos or photos, I mean.
But at least you posted a useful warning to PU members.
Personally, I try to avoid all trial memberships, because you never know in advance how limited they are. And trial memberships normally convert into high priced memberships at the end of the trial, unless you cancel them.
Glad for the warning, and also glad that you are able to take this so calmly.
I would be screaming my lungs out that I had been tricked.
Which would not be that good for me, at my age. Lol.
Thanks again for the warning.
This was a new one, for me.
Except that I was charged twice on my cell phone, for ring-tones, that I never ordered or agreed to buy.
My cell phone carrier representative told me I had probably opened a text message from some company, and that automatically gave the company the right to charge me for a service.
The reason I was charged twice (about $15 for each time), was that as soon as I noticed the charge on my monthly bill, I called my cell phone carrier to complain, they placed a block on the account, but somehow, I was still charged a second time by the *(^%$ ring-tone company.
I called the ring-tone company that charged me, they said they would give me a refund: it took about 4 months for me to get a refund, of $15 (they had charged me $15 twice, for a total of $30).
I gave up trying to get the rest of my money back.
But scams, thieves, whatever, are alive and well out there.
Even big-name corporations like to play games.
Sometimes they even get caught, and are forced to pay a fine.
But in the past, any fine they paid was small compared to the money they probably made from cheating their customers.
I signed up for a Devils Film membership in April, using Mastercard. And the credit card company blocked my account until I spoke with them on the telephone.
The credit card companies are trying to prevent fraud. So if they see a suspicious charge or billing agent, they block the account.
If clearing your cache does not solve the problem, try this:
use a different browser (IE, firefox, opera, whatever) to connect to the site.
badandy400 posted this advice to another member, golden zebra, who could not join a site:
"I would try clearing all of your temporary files and cookies. This typically clears up many of the issues that arise. Another option is to try using a different browser, firefox, IE, ect. Good luck."
golden zebra was able to join the site by using a different browser (firefox).
A week ago I tried loading the intro page for Amour Angels on my PC. That page did not load the images that it is supposed to show. Instead, I got a page that is mainly white-space.
(I am not a member of that site, was just trying to look over the models at the site.)
Anyway, I mentioned this in a comment at PU, asking if other PU members had the same problem. I got 2 replies, from Khan (PU staff) and Goldfish, stating they had no problem loading the page.
I then cleared my cache (I use Firefox browser), but that did not work. I still can't properly load the intro page for Amour Angels with Firefox. I also use Opera, a different browser, and that will properly load the Amour Angels page, with the images.) I also have that same problem for a few other sites with Firefox, I've noticed. I don't know why my Firefox browser does not load the images from some sites/pages. I need to slam my browser or PC upside of the head or go for anger management.
What I'm trying to say is that the problem seems to be in your PC software somewhere, maybe in your browser. Basing this on Khan's reply that he is able to load the site properly.
You can try clearing your browser cache. That might work, and would be a simple solution (that did not work for me, unfortunately).
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