GLAD YOU GOT YOUR PROBLEM SOLVED, AND RECEIVED A REFUND.
IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE WHEN CHOOSING YOUR PAYMENT PROCESSOR, I RECOMMEND EITHER CCBILL OR EPOCH, THEY ARE BOTH EASY TO DEAL WITH.
JUST MY OPINION, BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS, BUT I'VE DEALT WITH CCBILL AND EPOCH FOR MOST OF MY PORN SUBSCRIPTIONS.
VIV THOMAS IS PART OF THE METART NETWORK OF SITES.
THEY ARE A TRUSTED NAME.
CONTACT THEIR SUPPORT TEAM AT: support@vivthomas.com
TELL THEM WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS.
THE METART SUPPORT TEAM IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FINEST, MOST RESPONSIVE CUSTOMER SUPPORT STAFF I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED.
YOU CAN FIND MANY EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY HAVE HELPED PU MEMBERS WHO HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THEIR SITES.
THE METART SITES USES DIFFERENT BILLING AGENTS.
I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH ECHST.
CONTACT THE METART SUPPORT TEAM (THAT I LISTED FOR YOU) AND YOU SHOULD GET A PROMPT, COURTEOUS RESPONSE.
YOU DID NOT GIVE MANY DETAILS ON WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS:
WHAT THE CHARGE WAS FOR, HOW IT HAPPENED, HOW MUCH THE CHARGE WAS, ETC.
EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF YOUR PROBLEM, SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, AND CAN WORK WITH YOU TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
OTHERWISE, IF YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU WERE CHEATED, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ANYONE TO HELP YOU, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS.
METART (THAT OWNS VIV THOMAS) HAS ONE OF THE FINEST, MOST RESPONSIVE CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAMS YOU WILL EVER FIND.
I DON'T WORK FOR THEM, BUT I'VE HAD MANY SUBSCRIPTIONS WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS.
CHECK YOUR EMAIL OR SPAM BOXES FOR A SPECIAL OFFER FROM TEAM SKEET.
$14.87/30 DAYS.
OR
$60/YEAR.
I'M A CURRENT MEMBER, SO THE OFFER ISN'T MUCH USE TO ME.
(I'VE ALREADY CANCELLED MY SUBSCRIPTION, BUT IT STILL RUNS FOR SEVERAL MORE MONTHS.)
I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE EVER GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM A PORN PAYSITE THAT THE SITE WAS UNDERGOING MAINTENANCE.
BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT COMMON, IF A SITE IS DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE, FOR A NOTICE TO BE POSTED AT THE SITE'S PAGE, THAT THE SITE IS DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE.
IT'S NOT REALLY AT THE MEMBER'S PAGE THE NOTICE IS GIVEN, BUT THE OUTSIDE PAGE WHERE YOU WOULD ENTER THE SITE.
THAT APPLIES TO PAYSITES AND NON-PAYSITES.
I'VE EVEN SEEN THAT NOTIFICATION FROM THE PU SITE.
LOL.
(AGAIN, NOT INSIDE THE PU MEMBER'S PAGE, BUT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PU SITE.)
YOUNG BLACK TEENS SEDUCING WHITE BOYS.
THE SOME-WHAT REVERSE OF THE MORE-COMMON YOUNG WHITE GIRLS WITH OLDER BLACK MEN THEME.
BlackValleyGirls IS ONE OF THE PREMIUM SITES IN THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK.
IF YOU SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE SITE, THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK MIGHT NOT BE MENTIONED, MAKING THE SITE SEEM NEW AND FRESH.
THE SITE HAS ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS, AND ONLY HAS 10 VIDEOS SO FAR.
FROM THE ADVERTISEMENT I SAW, THERE WAS NO INDICATION HOW SMALL THE SITE REALLY IS.
I BELIEVE THAT EACH PREMIUM SITE IN THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK REQUIRES A SEPARATE MEMBERSHIP (INSTEAD OF THE ALTERNATE SYSTEM OF JOINING ONE PREMIUM SITE AND UNLOCKING ALL THE PREMIUM SITES WITH THAT JOIN).
IF YOU JOIN THIS SITE BASED ON A FLASHY ADVERTISEMENT, THINKING IT WILL BE A FAIR-SIZED SITE, YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE BUYER'S REMORSE, WHEN SEE HOW LITTLE CONTENT THERE IS.
THE THEME IS ATTRACTIVE, BUT THE SITE NEEDS TO GROW A LOT TO BE WORTH THE MEMBERSHIP PRICE.
OR ELSE, CHANGE THE SYSTEM, AND GIVE ACCESS TO ALL THE PREMIUM SITES WITH MEMBERSHIP IN ANY ONE OF THE PREMIUM SITES.
NOTE: THE PREVIEW PAGE FOR THE SITE HAS 35 LARGE-SIZED THUMBNAILS, IMPLYING AT LEAST 35 SEPARATE VIDEOS.
BUT THE MEMBER'S PAGE SHOWS THE SITE ONLY HAS 10 VIDEOS CURRENTLY.
"some incredibly beautiful amateurs"
AGREE COMPLETELY.
THE MODELS DON'T LOOK LIKE PORN STARS, BUT MORE LIKE THE BEST-LOOKING GIRLS YOU MIGHT FIND AT YOUR LOCAL SHOPPING MALL.
WAS IN A HOSPITAL AND THEN A NURSING HOME, SO DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO PORN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. BUT SINCE I WAS IN A LOT OF PAIN, PORN WAS AMONG THE LEAST OF MY CONCERNS AT THE TIME. TRYING TO GAIN STRENGTH TO WALK AND GET OUT OF THE NURSING HOME WAS THE IMPORTANT THING.
ONCE THEY STICK YOU IN A NURSING HOME, YOU NEED DOCTOR'S APPROVAL BEFORE YOU CAN BE RELEASED--UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO LOSE ACCESS TO YOUR MEDICAL BENEFITS. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU ARE A PRISONER.
AFTER PU MEMBER PITYTHEFOOL POSTED A NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT THIS SITE, COMPLAINING HE HAD A PROBLEM CANCELLING HIS TRIAL SUBSCRIPTION, THERE WERE 8 COMMENTS TOUTING THIS SITE FROM NEW PU MEMBERS.
SLIGHTLY SUSPICIOUS.
SPAM? OR A WASTE OF PU SITE SPACE?
IF THE SUSPICIOUS COMMENTS ARE DELETED, THEN PU CAN DELETE THIS COMMENT, AS WELL.
USE THE CHAT FOR EVIL ANGEL.
ASK IF THEY CAN HELP YOU GET A REFUND ON YOUR FUCKBUDDY SUBSCRIPTION.
THAT'S A LONGSHOT, BECAUSE EVIL ANGEL IS SEPARATE FROM FUCKBUDDY.
BUT THE CHAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO CONTACT SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP.
IF CHAT CAN'T HELP, CONTACT THE DEBIT ACCOUNT COMPANY, AND DISPUTE THE PAYMENT.
I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH A DEBIT ACCOUNT MYSELF, BUT MOST CREDIT CARD COMPANIES I'VE DEALT WITH HAVE BEEN BOTH FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL IF I DISPUTE A PAYMENT-AND IMMEDIATELY GIVE ME A CREDIT FOR THE DISPUTED CHARGE (AFTER ALLOWING FOR PROCESSING TIME).
JUST TELL THE DEBIT ACCOUNT COMPANY YOU ARE BEING CHARGED FOR A SUBSCRIPTION THAT YOU DID NOT INTEND TO JOIN, AND DID NOT USE THEIR SERVICES.
AND THAT THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO REFUND YOUR PURCHASE PRICE.
WHICH IS ALL TRUE.
IF DEBIT ACCOUNT TELEPHONE ACCESS SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE, THAT'S THE FASTEST WAY TO SETTLE THE MATTER. UNLESS THEY HAVE A CHAT LINE OPEN.
CHAT WOULD GIVE YOU A WRITTEN RECORD OF THE PROBLEM.
BAREFOOT. KEEP IT SIMPLE.
BUT NYLONS AND OTHER STOCKINGS/HOSIERY/WHATEVER-YOU-CALL-IT CAN MAKE A NICE CHANGE OF PACE AND SET OFF A GIRLS LEGS ATTRACTIVELY.
FuckBuddy.nl IS NOT PART OF THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE.
EVIL ANGEL JOIN SITES (ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PORN WEB SITE JOIN PAGES) OFTEN HAVE A PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SELL.
YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY SIGNED UP TO WHAT IS A TRIAL SUBSCRIPTION TO A DIFFERENT MEMBERSHIP, UNLESS YOU UNCHECK THE PRE-CHECKED CROSS-SALE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR FUCKBUDDY.NL SUBSCRIPTION HAPPENED.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CROSS-SALE ON AN EVIL ANGEL JOIN PAGE.
YOU ARE NOT GIVING MUCH DETAILS ON WHAT HAPPENED.
IF YOU DID JOIN FUCKBUDDY.NL, WHICH YOU APPEAR TO HAVE DONE, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR: WHAT THE PAYMENTS ARE, TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP, ETC.
SO CONTACT THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT AT FUCKBUDDY.NL, AND HOPE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIVE: A LOT OF CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAMS AT PORN SITES ARE NOT RESPONSIVE, AND OFTENTIMES DON'T REPLY TO REQUESTS FOR HELP.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN USE THE CHAT AT EVIL ANGEL. WHICH IS NORMALLY VERY RESPONSIVE. IT'S FREE.
ASK THEM FOR WHATEVER INFORMATION ABOUT FUCKBUDDY YOU NEED.
DO YOU WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF FUCKBUDDY?
THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.
CHAT IS FREE. AND IT'S MUCH FASTER THAN WAITING FOR EMAILS FROM CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
SO USE THE EVIL ANGEL CHAT SERVICE.
YOU LISTED THIS COMMENT ON THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE LISTING AT PORN USERS.COM.
FuckBuddy.nl IS NOT PART OF THE EVIL ANGEL WEBSITE.
FuckBuddy.nl IS A DATING SERVICE. FOR SEX. BUT THEY STATE THEY ARE NOT A DATING SERVICE. BUT A HOOK-UP SERVICE FOR SEX.
(IT'S A DUTCH SERVICE, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LOST IN THE TRANSLATION OF WHAT IS DATING, WHAT IS HOOK-UP FOR SEX.)
SO, SOMEHOW, YOU SIGNED UP FOR THEIR DATING SERVICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMS ARE, MEMBERSHIP FEES, WHATEVER.
YOU NEED TO CONTACT THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO FIND OUT THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU SIGNED UP BY MISTAKE, PERHAPS YOU CAN CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
SINCE YOU ALREADY PAID FOR THE MEMBERSHIP (AND CANCELLED), I WOULD SUGGEST TRYING TO GET YOUR COMPLETE MONEY'S WORTH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF VIDEOS (AND PHOTOSETS--IF YOU ARE INTO PHOTOSETS) THAT ARE WORTH COLLECTING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR NETWORK, WITH A HUGE AMOUNT OF CUTE TEENS.
AND SOME OF THE VIDEOS ARE GOOD TO EXCELLENT.
AS WELL AS THE PHOTOS.
I USUALLY GET AROUND 2 MB/sec FOR MY DOWNLOAD SPEEDS. WHICH IS NOT GREAT, BUT IT'S ACCEPTABLE, FROM THE SITE AND NETWORK. MY MAX CONNECTION IS RATED 12.5 MB/sec, BUT I DON'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR THAT FROM ANY OF THE SITES I'VE EVER JOINED.
BUT I ENJOY THIS SITE AND NETWORK, BOTH FOR THE MODEL SELECTION, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE VIDEOS ARE HOT.
THEY DON'T GLAMORIZE THE MODELS LIKE A GLAMOURCON SITE, BUT MANY OF THE MODELS ARE CUTE ENOUGH THAT THEIR CUTENESS SHOWS THROUGH.
BUT I AGREE THAT A SLOW CONNECTION CAN BE FRUSTRATING AS HELL, AND TAKES AWAY FROM ENJOYING A SITE.
I'VE DONE THE SAME THING AS YOU, JOINED A SITE, THEN GOT SO FRUSTRATED BY SITE GLITCHES THAT I BARELY USED THE SITE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH EITHER THIS SITE OR NETWORK.
THANKFULLY.
COMPUTERS CAN BE FUNNY. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE TEAM SKEET NETWORK FROM MEMBERS THAT EXPERIENCED HORRIBLE DOWNLOAD SPEEDS.
BUT AGAIN, I'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY WITH THAT NETWORK, AND MY CONNECTIONS ARE USUALLY OK FOR THEM.
Astronaut Space Suit or Disposable Hazmat Suit.
Think of the rewards you will find, stripping a nubile blonde from her protective gear.
The sense of mastery, of power!
Halloween is coming, and we need to keep our senses keen, with a bit of imagination.
(joke).
I WENT TO SOME GLAMOURCON CONVENTIONS, WHICH WERE PROMOTED BY HUGH HEFNER, AND MAINLY FEATURED PAST PLAYBOY PLAYMATES, WITH SOME OTHER PIN-UP MODELS. THE CONVENTIONS WERE HELD IN CHICAGO AND LA.
I WENT TO THE LA CONVENTIONS, WHICH WERE IN MY GENERAL AREA.
I GUESS THE INTEREST IN THE GLAMOURCON CONVENTIONS DROPPED, BECAUSE THEY USED TO BE TWICE A YEAR FOR MANY YEARS, BUT THE LAST GLAMOURCON CONVENTION WAS IN 2014.
THE FIRST GLAMOURCON WAS IN 1993, I THINK.
SO WOULD GLAMOURCON BE CONSIDERED PORN?
IT WAS MAINLY SOFTCORE EROTIC. NO NUDITY AT THE CONVENTION (EXCEPT FOR PHOTOS OF PLAYMATES AND OTHER PINUPS).
A CHANCE FOR PAST PLAYMATES TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY, IF THEY WERE LUCKY, SELLING AUTOGRAPHED PHOTOS OF THEMSELVES.
I'M SURPRISED AT THE LOW QUALITY OF THE VIDS.
THEY ARE PROFESSIONALLY SHOT, GOOD FOCUS, GOOD LIGHTING, GOOD SOUND CONTROL.
BUT THE DEFINITION IS LOW.
A RECENT VID POSTED 02/27/2015 FROM A DVD IS OFFERED IN:
160p
240p
360p
480p
THAT IS FOR BOTH STREAMING, AND FOR DOWNLOADING.
TEEN MEGA WORLD, WHICH USED TO BE LOW-GRADE HARDCORE, NOW OFFERS 4K DEFINITION FOR SOME OF THE VIDS.
AND MOST OF THEIR RECENT VIDS OFFER UP TO 1080p.
ACTUALLY, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE MOVIE FROM LOVE HAIRY.
JUST LOOK AT THE COVER PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MOVIE AT LOVE HAIRY:
IT'S THE SAME COVER PHOTOGRAPH USED AT THE LIFE EROTIC SITE:
THE LOVE HAIRY COVER SHOWS "THE LIFE EROTIC" SITE, NOT THE "LOVE HAIRY" SITE, IN THE PHOTOGRAPH.
(YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LOVE HAIRY COVER WITH THE CONTENT SHOWN, NOT THE CLEAN COVER THAT REMOVES ALL THE CONTENT DETAILS.)
HOPE THIS HELPS.
DO I GET A GOLD STAR, LIKE THEY USED TO GIVE OUT IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL, BACK WHEN I WAS IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL?
AMANDA, IF YOU WANT TO DO A STEP BY STEP COMPARISON OF CONTENT POSTED AT LOVE HAIRY AND THE SAME CONTENT AT ONE OF THE METART SISTER SITES:
1. LOOK AT ANY PHOTOSET POSTED AT LOVE HAIRY.
2. CHECK THE POSTING DATE, AND THE TITLE/MODEL.
3. LOOK AT THE DEFAULT TITLE OF THE SET.
THE DEFAULT TITLE OF THE SET SHOWS THE METART SISTER SITE WHERE THE SAME CONTENT WAS ALSO POSTED.
FOR EXAMPLE:
MODEL: DAKOTA
TITLE OF PHOTOSET: Teniri
DATE POSTED AT LOVE HAIRY: Sep 12, 2017
DOWNLOAD THE LOVE HAIRY LOW-RES ZIP FILE OF THE PHOTOSET (CHOOSE LOW-RES, FOR FASTER DOWNLOAD TIME).
CHECK THE TITLE OF THE ZIP FILE: MetArt_2017-09-12_TENIRI-DAKOTA-by-MATISS_315d5_low
METART (AND LOVE HAIRY) IS NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT THEY ARE SHARING CONTENT.
IF YOU CHECK THE METART.COM SITE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SAME PHOTOSET WAS POSTED ON THE SAME DATE AT METART.COM.
THE SAME APPLIES TO ALL THE PHOTOSETS I CHECKED.
MODEL: ULIA
TITLE OF PHOTOSET: Zacine
DATE POSTED AT LOVE HAIRY: Aug 31, 2017
LOVE HAIRY LOW-RES ZIP FILE OF THE PHOTOSET IS TITLED: MetArt_2017-08-31_ZACINE-ULIA-by-RON-OFFLIN_8de5b_low
CHECK THE METART.COM SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE SAME PHOTOSET WAS POSTED ON THE SAME DATE AT METART.COM.
IF YOU ARE INTO HAIRY WOMEN, THE SITE IS WORTH JOINING.
JUST BE AWARE THAT MOST OR ALL OF THE CONTENT WAS PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED AT OTHER SITES ON THE METART NETWORK. OTHERWISE, WITHOUT THAT UNDERSTANDING, YOU WOULD PROBABLY FEEL CHEATED IF YOU WERE A REGULAR MEMBER NETWORK MEMBER, AND JOINED THIS SITE LOOKING FOR NEW CONTENT.
BOTTOM LINE:
MAYBE IT'S JUST ME: BUT WHEN I ENTER THE METART.COM SITE, MY BRAIN JUST SHUTS DOWN SLIGHTLY. I KNOW THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL MODELS PRESENTED ALMOST EVERY DAY, BUT IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. I DON'T APPRECIATE THEM LIKE I SHOULD.
BACK IN THE 1960s AND 1970s, WHEN PLAYBOY AND PENTHOUSE CAME OUT WITH THEIR MONTHLY MAGAZINES, THERE WAS THE THRILL OF ANTICIPATION, OF SEEING BEAUTIFUL WOMEN EXPOSED. EACH SPREAD HAD 15 PHOTOS OR LESS, BUT THE IMPACT WAS MUCH GREATER THAN THE PHOTOSETS AT METART OR FEMJOY OR MPL STUDIOS WHICH HAVE OVER 100 PHOTOS EACH, BUT MANY OF THE PHOTOS ARE ALMOST DUPLICATES OF EACH OTHER, OR THE MODELS ARE PUT INTO TWISTY, UNNATURAL POSITIONS TO EXPOSE THEIR CUNT OR ASSHOLE, AND THESE MODERN PHOTOSETS DON'T HAVE THE IMPACT THE PLAYBOY OR PENTHOUSE PHOTOSETS DID. IN SPITE OF THE TECHNICAL ADVANCES IN PHOTOGRPAHY THAT CAN NOW SHOW YOU ALL THE GLORY OF 4K. WHICH IS NOT THAT WONDERFUL. WHO WANTS TO SEE PIMPLES AND RAZOR BURNS AND TATTOOS ON THEIR FAVORITE MODELS?
SOME PEOPLE, MIGHT. BUT NOT ME.
FOR ME, LOVE HAIRY IS A NICE CHANGE OF PACE FROM METART.COM.
I THINK IT'S WORTH JOINING. ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PRICE IS LOW: $7.99/MONTH, OR $60/YEAR.
I'M THINKING ABOUT A LOW-COST SUB TO THIS SITE.
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