Computers can make mistakes.
So the error message that a server is mis-configured could be worthless (I sometimes get that same mis-configured error message, and ignore it: sometimes I re-send my email, and it then goes through.)
Anyway, it might be that your account was hacked. That seems to be very common, about charges to cam shows that people never watched or requested.
Or, it could be a computer error, where your mouse flicked over some link, and that's why you are getting charged.
Or some other reason.
So, my advice, have patience, but not too much: Send a message to chat, or support, that you did not request the cam shows, did not watch them, and were billed in error.
I've never dealt with ECHST.
From what I've read (you can't put a lot of weight on internet reports about payment processors), they are far less responsive or reliable than CCBill or Epoch or Vendo.
Some of their agents can be rude with dealing with customers.
So, stand your ground.
Do not pay fraudulent charges.
If need be, if ECHST does not want to give a refund, call your credit card company, and protest the charges.
And, as a last resort, have your card cancelled, and be issued a new card account with your credit card company.
(That's if ECHST continues to make charges on your card.)
"No problems using my download manager (Firefox DTA)"
Is there a new version of Down Them All that works with the current version of Firefox?
My understanding is that DTA has not worked with the newer versions of Firefox for a while.
So:
Are you using the current version of Firefox, or an older version that allows DTA to work?
If DTA has released an updated version that works with the current version of Firefox, I would be glad to know.
The Old 'n Young site (part of Teen Mega World network) still updates with 1 or 2 videos per month.
The site started around late 2007, and has 107 videos currently.
So if you are fan of this niche, and haven't been a member of TMW for a while, the site (and network) might be worth a join.
Especially with a PU discounted price of $14.95/month.
You get 1 or 2 updates per month for the Old-n-Young site.
That's because you only get 1 update per day for the entire network, so any one site is slow to update.
But if you haven't been a member of TMW for a couple of years, and you like the network, you should find plenty of new videos that you will enjoy.
At the Old-n-Young site, and other sites, as well.
You caught me.
I must have been asleep when I was copying the review to the PU site.
And I deleted the con section of my original review, replacing it with the pro section.
Thanks for noting the error.
I have updated the review to fix that error: but the con section is not as complete as my original review, because I'm doing it from memory.
If you did not mean to join the upsell, maybe you could email the website customer support or the payment processor and ask for a refund.
It's worth a shot.
Some sites will easily offer a refund.
But I don't know about Porn Pros.
When I joined My Naked Dolls site recently, I was repeatedly declined because the software for CCBill said the price I was paying was invalid.
"CCBill.com is the payment processor for your order with http://mynakeddolls.com and unfortunately, we are unable to process your transaction at this time, due to Website has invalid pricing."
I did a live chat with CCBill.
They suggested deleting cookies and restarting my computer.
Which did not help.
A couple of days later I got an email from CCBill stating:
"We have tested the sign up page you reported and have found it working properly. Please give it another try. If it is still not working for you please let us know."
And I emailed My Naked Dolls, told them of the problem, that my membership was not being accepted, and they told me to keep trying.
A few days later, I was able to join the site.
But I had previously tried over 5 times, using different credit cards, to join the site.
And kept getting the message that the membership price was invalid.
Years ago, soon after I joined PU, Anonymous gave me a negative trust vote.
Said my reviews were too much like other members' reviews, and that an English prof would think I copied material from other reviews.
Still bothers me.
Guess I have a thin skin.
Time to move on from negative comments, unless we really feel there's merit in the criticism.
Sorry you wasted $30 on a poor site, because of some comment from Anonymous.
I always felt that Anonymous was a coward's use of negative comments, that the person would not own up to the comment.
The browser page opens: 59.17.17.0.0.0.0.0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.vixenx.com/t2/?nats=bestporn.59.17.17.0.0.0.0.0
I can then click on the "Sign up" link (upper right corner of the page, or click on one of the thumbnails for the site videos, and it opens the join page:
https://join.vixenx.com/signup/signup.php?nats=bestporn.59.17.17.0.0.0.0.0&step=2
The prices shown are $18.83 for 30-day membership,
and
$0.50/day for 6-month membership.
I am using Firefox browser.
I suggest clearing your cookies and cache if you can't open the Vixen X site.
Disclaimer:
I'm not a shill, or connected with any porn site except for paying memberships to some.
Sometimes when I try to offer helpful advice, I am accused of being a shill or working for a porn site.
Or being compulsive or a liar or some other psych problem.
Whatever...
Team Skeet premium sites (require a separate membership for each premium site):
Name of site + Number of movies
BFFS Movies 102
Black Valley Girls Movies 23
DadCrush Movies 97
DaughterSwap Movies 76
FamilyStrokes Movies 160
Shoplyfter Movies 91
SisLovesMe Movies 123
Submissived Movies 117 Teens Love Black Cocks Movies 97
BOTTOM LINE (CONTINUED):
You can flag (report) a problem with streaming or downloading a video with a handy hot link by the video.
You can post comments for each video (like or dislike, whatever).
The like/dislight buttons seem more realistic than at many other sites, which seem to favor almost unanimous approval. Team Skeet seems to allow negative votes on videos by members.
Bottom line summary:
1. If you don't experience slow connection speeds;
2. If you don't expect a glamcore experience that Blacked, Tushy, X-Art provides, but a more bread-and-butter approach to teen porn;
3. Many of the models are cute, even if not much effort is put into making them attractive.
4. Then, because of a low price ($17.87/month with PU discount), you get access to a large amount of teen hardcore videos in a wide variety of niches.
Giving the site and network a score of 85.
If it weren't for the complaints by some PU members about the slow connection speed, I would give the site and network a higher score.
But since there's an element of uncertainty of what you will be getting for your money, I think 85 is a fair score.
IN THE NEXT REPLY, SEE A LISTING OF THE SITES CONTAINED IN THE BASIC SITES YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, WITH THE NUMBER OF VIDEOS IN EACH SITE.
Physical books give a better, more familiar experience when reading, than ebooks.
But ebooks are usually cheaper, and more convenient to keep and read.
So I use both.
But most of my library is ebooks. Because of cost and convenience.
I'm really glad that ebooks were invented.
Even though you can't seem to hold the same affection and regard for them as a real book. It just seems like a different experience when you are reading a screen instead of a paper page. Less of a real connection.
I am suggesting that Amanda should give you 1 and 3/4 points for this comment/review.
You would have qualified for 2 full points if you had included the pros section of this site.
But this comment is really worth more than 2 points for anyone reading it and avoiding this site membership.
So, thanks for the heads up.
(But I would never have joined anyway, since the site-niche is not my cup of tea.)
In Los Angeles, I only use Spectrum for internet service.
Which is why I'm paying $45 for a 100 Mbps connection.
If I bundled internet, phone, and cable, I would be paying about $29 for each service, with a 100 Mbps connection speed.
What's nice about Spectrum, and Time Warner before that, was there were no data caps.
So I never had to worry about using too much.
But since I don't belong to Netflix, I don't think I use all that much bandwidth, anyway.
I'm much more selective about the porn I download today.
Back in the day, I used to stream the videos or slide show the photo sets, then download almost everything. Now I rarely download anything except what I feel is very good to great.
I was born in Los Angeles. Spent most of my life here.
But I lived in Augusta, GA for almost 18 years.
Nice town, but the summer weather was hot and humid.
Winters were mild, though.
But the insects: you had large cockroaches running over the streets at night.
You step out in the yard in the summer without a shirt, and in a few minutes, you're covered in mosquito bites.
You take a shower, and 10 minutes later, you're ready for another shower, in the summer.
I know people are supposed to get acclimated to the hot and humid weather, but I never did.
If you count the time I spend at PU (the main site I use for reviews on porn sites) and other review porn sites, I would guess 25-50% of my web time is spent on porn.
But if you add in the amount of news I read about Trump, who I believe is related to my porn addiction (there, I've admitted I'm a porn addict), the % goes up.
I need to cut down on my porn addiction.
I kicked cigarettes, so maybe I can kick porn.
But it took many tries before I was able to kick cigarettes completely. Many tries and many years.
I live in Los Angeles County.
I've been a member of Time Warner for internet for a few years.
I started with their slowest speed.
Paid around $30/month for 30 Mbps.
After 1 year, they raised the price to about $54/month.
While offering new subscribers 30 Mbps for $30.
I called the office, and they said that $54/month for 30 Mbps was the price for current subscribers, and that I didn't qualify for the new subscriber rate.
So I talked some more, and they finally offered me 50 Mbps for $40/month.
Which was faster and cheaper than the 30 Mbps for $54/month.
After one year, they said I no longer qualified for the $40/month introductory rate.
So I asked if I could have a cheaper plan, and they told me even if I dropped my internet speed, I would not qualify for a cheaper plan.
So I told them to end my service at the end of the current month.
And I paid T-Mobile for a one-month plan, with a slow internet connection.
Then I went into the Time Warner office, told them I was ending my service.
The sales clerk I spoke with, offered me a new plan at $45/month for 100 Mbps.
I was pissed, because I had already paid T-Mobile for a slower plan for 1 month.
But I told Time Warner to switch me to the $45/month for 100 Mbps plan. Then Time Warner changed to Spectrum.
Anyway, I now believe that 100 Mbps is the slowest speed that Spectrum offers in my area.
Which might explain why you got an upgrade to 100 Mbps, because that might be the slowest speed they offer in your area, as well.
The only surprising thing is that they did not charge you a higher price.
Unless you are on a contract that specifies the lower price.
I'm on month to month service, with the price locked in for 12 months.
That's the system they use in my area.
A few sites are trying out the different membership levels of streaming only versus streaming + downloading for a higher price.
I don't think the different membership level pricing plan is really catching on, because I've looked at a lot of sites and very few sites seem to be offering that choice currently.
Diesel Network (All Fine Girls, Wow Girls, Wow Porn) offered a choice of streaming only, with a higher priced streaming + downloading, a while back.
But they seem to have dropped the streaming only option. As far as I know.
The Best Porn (the sister site of Porn Users) still shows a streaming only membership for All Fine Girls.
But if I use the hot link from PU or TBP to access the All Fine Girls site, and hit the join link,
I only see streaming + download membership prices listed (for 1 month recurring, 1 month non-recurring, and 6 month recurring.
I'm a member of Diesel Access, with a diamond level membership, have been for over 1 year, which means I have access to all 3 sites.
But they are like many sites, that don't seem to have a need for a FAQ where membership prices and rules are posted inside the membership area.
Anyway, I'm glad that most porn sites do not offer a streaming versus streaming + downloading option.
That's personal preference.
To be honest, if I were more analytical, I should prefer the option of choosing a cheaper streaming only membership and a streaming + downloading option.
But I don't like having to make choices about this.
To be truthful, I used to download gobs of content from most porn sites.
But now I am more selective about what I download, and try to download only what I will watch again and again.
Unless there is some special reason: like, it's easier to watch a photo set on my PC, instead of trying to using the site's slideshow mechanism, which might be clunky to view.
One question on your review:
You write: "One day, I'm downloading at near max of 15Mbps, the next I'm barely getting 2Mbps."
Do you mean to write MBps, instead of Mbps?
B, with a capital letter, stands for Byte.
b, with a lowercase letter, stands for bit.
8 bits in a Byte.
2 Mbps, or even 15 Mbps, is very slow.
I'm with Spectrum (formerly called Time Warner), and I have a 100 Mbps connection.
There are slower and faster connections offered.
But 15 Mbps would be very slow, and Spectrum does not offer that slow a speed.
Whereas 15 MBps would be slightly faster than the connection I have.
Excellent review, as usual.
You cover the network sites in a comprehensive manner that clearly explains what each site does.
And you mention your own preferences, but try not to let them color your site review over much.
I don't remember when I was a member of most of these sites, but what I do remember is that I thought: many of the Dane Jones videos were high quality, with attractive young women in some hot scenes.
Dane Jones was a good site, with attractive young women in some hot scenes. Massage Rooms was also an very good site. Lesbea was a good lesbian site.
My vague impression is that the videos are excellent in technical quality: sharp focus, well lighted, good sound control, etc.
And like I said, some of the videos were hot (or that I really enjoyed watching them).
One reason for that is I like watching pretty girls and women. Doing sexy things.
I don't remember Girlfriends or Mom XXX or Fitness Rooms.
Mom XXX and Fitness Rooms don't fit into my preferred tastes.
Back in the early 1970s, before the internet, it was rare to see pretty girls in porn.
But since at least the 1990s, the floodgates have opened.
And it's hard to keep up with all these lovely girls.
The bottom line: an excellent, comprehensive review of a network.
You put a lot of time and energy and thought in writing this review.
Very impressive.
Sometimes there is a "gateway" ad that you have to pass through to enter the main member's area.
Today, I find a "gateway" ad for other sites, that is so large it covers the entire web page.
I can't find a hot link to leave the "gateway" ad page, to enter the member's area, where all the content (videos and photo sets) is.
Makes me wonder why I signed up for this site/network.
Edit: My apologies.
There is a tiny box that says something like "Enter the member's area."
I hit the box/link, and am passed through to the member's area.
Make sure you search the entire page, to get inside.
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