Agreed about CCBill. Rates are getting very close to being regional discrimination, which we both hate. I mostly stay away from CCBIll nowadays for that reason. I go with Epoch whenever I can,
I was last there in 2010 so although recent updates have slowed to being non existent, there were still quite a few since my last membership. If you haven't been there for a while I'm sure you'll find some good stuff from 2010-12. Even their leased content is good.
There are no problems with TCC if you only collect videos, as download speeds are quite good, but if you like photos it's a pain. One thing that occurred to me is if you like photos you will never have enough time to capture all of them on all the sites in a month or two. To join TCC is $49.97 but if you join separate sites it's only $29.97 and you get quite a few of the TCC sites as a bonus, usually between 13 and 17, depending on which site you join. So if you want to collect photos obviously it's best to join separate sites over the months, until you have downloaded all the photos, otherwise you will be paying for many sites you wont use. Incidentally if you cancel TCC membership they offer you a cut price offer to stay on.
It's very much personal taste, but I like their style, of great looking girls captured by professional lighting and camerawork, which has a very bright and colourful look. The only thing you may not like is the quality of video which is not very high def. It's good and I'm happpy with it but very high def afficionados may not like it. Good enough for me though and the pics are great, if only there were a way of downloading them.
Thanks Marc. Yes they could do themselves a favour and give a better preview section, especially as they are so low profile. They could find some new subscribers and lengthen their life, but all the signs are thay're on life support.
Yeah I pretty much agree with that, Pat. For me the material is as good as any I have seen. Amazing models and photography, but negatives so bad they shot themselves in the foot.
I am probably one of the few who would be willing to fork out more than a $50 join fee, providing the material is top rate. I am one who thinks porn is too cheap, ridiculously cheap.
The strange thing is, although they have no customer service and don't seem to care less about the site being customer friendly, they don't try to trick you with cross sales, or any other dirty tricks for that matter.
I think I will go out on a limb and say the material is the best porn I have seen (although admittedly that is very subjective). Okay I'll say it's my favourite material, because what is the best porn is just opinion.
I'm not sure whether to feel sad at the demise of a site that produced such quality, or pleased because management is clearly such a bunch of total assholes.
I see very few free pics from this network on free forums so maybe their policy of having no zipped photos works. However one argument for paying to join sites is ease of downloading material. For this network it is easier to search free download forums and download zipped photos.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
No DRM, pre checked cross sells, or download restrictions.
Superb photography and lighting.
Beautiful girls, with few fake breasts or tattoos.
Very little filler material, although older material is lower spec.
Pics are very good, and have much more variety of angles than seen on most networks.
There is a progression from clothed to unclothed, with some great softcore pics.
Streaming in chunks.
The male leads and cameramen mostly keep out of the way. There is occasionally some abuse (choking on Ass Teen Mouth for example), but the focus is nearly always on the models.
No condoms.
Cons:
Expensive
Rip off exchange rate from CCBill.
No zipped photos.
No customer service.
Awful log in. Each site needs a new log in plus captcha, you have to log in again every time you leave, and you get timed out of the site very quickly.
Very few new updates.
Video downloads are only in wmv, but for me that is no con, as I prefer wmv.
Very little ethnic or weight diversity. Models are mainly white and slim.
Homogeneous product. Most of it has the same look.
The most customer unfriendly network in the entire universe (even worse than Ewoks customer services at DeathStar.com).
Bottom Line:
When I first joined this network three years ago I said it had great material but is let down by lousy management who couldn't care less about their customers. Nothing has changed in that respect. I haven't tried to contact customer support this time. I tried three years ago on a number of occasions but never received a reply. I have no doubt that still holds. If anyone has ever received a reply from this place I would be both pleased and amazed to hear from them.
Pictures are still unzipped, and the log in is still ridiculous. You not only have to enter your name and password for each site, you also have to enter a captcha. Why? You have paid money to join a site, you are unlikely to be some sort of computer bot. Furthermore, none of the sites remember you are logged in, so once you leave the site, even if only for a few seconds, you have to re enter you name, password, and new captcha. It is still the most customer unfriendly network I have ever joined.
So why did I join again after three years? For a number of good reasons. For my taste this has the highest download strike rate of any site. In other words I wish to download a higher percentage of updates from this site than from any other. The girls are stunningly attractive, the videos and pics are beautifully lit and shot, and have very good angles for displaying the models.
One thing that for me does not now seem so bad, is navigation. I don't think it has actually improved, but since I first joined I have visited sites with seriously BAD navigation, and in comparison TCC is not so bad. Home pages give you an accurate preview of the material, and most of the time they are very inviting. Most of the sites in the network have a homogeneous samey look to them, with a few exceptions, Hardcore Youth being one. I have seen comments on PU that it is leased content, unfortunately there are still no zipped photos even on that site. Some of the older content on the network looks a bit different and has lower spec.
The models may be white and slim, but they are very beautiful, and at least not so skinny they look like concentration camp victims. There is an accent on anal, but as well as the softcore photos, there is some good straight action too. The majority of the updates are one on one, but there is some dp, and the Double Teamed Teens site is dedicated to that. It does have an overall homogeneous look across the network. Although produced well, it could do with something a little different on occasion, even if that just means changing the location or furniture.
The softcore pictures are very good, but are not part of the video. On most sites they appear to take a series of softcore pictures, then the model starts back with her clothes on. The video and second section of pictures go from here. The male lead enters, quickly takes of the model's clothes, and the action starts straight away.
With usually over 500 pictures to a set for the new updates, and no zipped photos facility, the time and effort to painstakingly store every single one of them becomes such a pain, that you start to ask yourself questions like "do I really need this photo," or "will the quality of my life really improve if I store this one?" At some point I start to spend more time trying to weed out the few that I don't want, than just going ahead and capturing the lot. After a while this whole place becomes the biggest pain in the ass since Vlad The Impaler was assassinated. Given the amount of material on TeenCoreClub, by the time you have manually captured only a tenth of the photos you want, you will need an ice pack on your arm. So this is what they mean by porn giving you a stiff wrist.
Just because there is no one in customer services doesn't mean there isn't anyone at home (obviously there is someone around to pocket the money), and the lack of a zipped photos facility may well be by design. You are going to need more than one month to capture all the photos you need, so it certainly stops everyone joining for one month only, downloading everything, then putting it all on a free download forum. I would rather pay three times as much, and have zipped photos. However, if this is the price I have to pay for their survival, given the quality of the material they offer, I can live with it. I ended my subscription because I knew I didn't have the time or inclination to store each individual picture. In the end I only downloaded a small part of what is available. What I do have is very good indeed, even though they don't have very high definition material. I may return when I have more time to manually save pictures.
Beautiful girls, great camerawork, and some great material, but a number of other networks outscore it by around ten points, both on PU and TBP. That says a lot about its negatives.
Fabulous review. We are in complete agreement. Beautiful girls who look great, with good quality photos and vidoes. It could be one of the best networks in porn with scores of 90+. Unfortunately management/owners/webmasters couldn't give a shit. Customers are treated with utter contempt. One of the most customer unfriendly networks in porn.
Thanks guys. Had a real moral crisis on whether to do the review. Had it completed nearly six months ago and had to go with it now or it would be too late. I hate contributing to a forum that has censorship regarding free material, on the other hand I admit they do a lot of good, and help their members. I can't condemn them too much as they do seem to have a conscience.
It was asmith who said I concentrated too much on tech and not enough on opinion, content, and stuff that couldn't be found elsewhere. In looking back at my reviews I found he was right. My reviews did not explain what the site would be like to a new subscriber. So I wanted to do one that was better.
Added to that there were some things I wanted to say about this site. In my opinion TeenCoreClub has some of the best material on the internet, totally let down by all the negatives. With content of this quality it should be scoring 10 marks higher than the usual 80 something that everyone seems to give it.
I always enjoy what you two, Wittyguy, Messmer, Drooler, Denner, and the rest say. I find myself nearly always wanting to add something, but have stopped myself because of the PU censorship. I know this site does provide a great service for porn lovers so maybe I am being a little unfair. I may be putting in the occasional appearance as PU has always been great fun. Not sure what I should be doing. I know if this site were gone I would miss it, along with all the characters here.
Was a member approx. 6 months prior to this review.
Pros:
Very attractive new models
Good quality pictures and videos
Some good clothed and softcore pictures as well as hardcore
No DRM or download restrictions
Professional non irritating males
Good download speed
No condoms
A lot of action and no talk
Good billing agents. I used CC Bill
but I believe Epoch is also available
Natural girls with very few plastic breasts and
unsightly tattoos
Exclusive content
Cons:
Lousy/non existent customer support
Annoying log in and navigation
Expensive
Few updates
Pictures are not zipped
Relatively few girls with most appearing
on all the main sites of the network.
Bottom Line:
Please note that my membership ended in August.
The network contains 15 sites but only a handful that are top rate. However the top rate ones are superb IMO. They have the freshest and newest performers who are either first timers or very new to porn. The girls are generally very attractive.
One of the advantages of these sites is the great pics of the girls starting from fully clothed and slowly stripping down. There are plenty of pictures of girls fully clothed, partially clothed, nude, then then hardcore scenes. The picture sets usually contain around 600 pics so there are around 100 fully clothed to partly clothed then around 100 posing nude followed by the hardcore stuff. I think the softcore fans would love the softcore pics here. Maybe this angle gets overlooked because the hardcore stuff is extremely hardcore.
The videos start with the guy undressing the girl and getting down to oral followed by sex straight away. Ass Teen Mouth is just that. It contains oral followed by anal. Some of the scenes are choking, but are not particularly nasty or excessive. The picture sets still contain the softcore stripping.
The pictures and videos are nearly all the same style and usually set in the same studio. This could be considered a pro or a con. Personally I like it although it could be considered a little samey. I like it because you know what you are going to get.
Compared to some sites there are relatively few models, with quite a few appearing on different sites.
The male performers do what they are supposed to, and the cameraman keeps out of the way.The males are not irritating.
The material has the freshest faces, captured by professionals with great camerawork and bright lighting which results in high quality videos and photos. Some may consider the results to be clinical but I like that look. There is no plot and no build up in the videos. The model sits on the bed, is stripped by the male and it's straight down to action. No pretence. It's just models being paid to do a job and then getting on with it.
The best quality pictures are 853 by 1280 and the best quality videos are 960 by 540 with bitrate of 3000.
The older material has less high spec.
I think the videos and pictures look great although I understand these specs mean they are not really high definition.
Streaming is available.
Some of the sites have not been updated for a long time, and have low spec material.
Some of the girls are too skinny for my taste.
The bad stuff is that the site is run by people who couldn't care less about their customers. Communication with them is impossible. They never answered any of my emails. The log in procedure is a real pain. There are no zipped pics, which means every one has to be individually downloaded.The whole feel about the place is that it is run by people who have complete and utter contempt for their customers. It has great material let down by typical lousy management.
Thanks for the info. It's a site I have considered joining for about 4 years! I never did because there always seems to be a better site about, and because I am mainly a hardcore vid person rather than softcore pic person. The site still sounds pretty good though. As you say, I gotta check it out once.
Very informative review. This was a site I was contemplating joining at one time, but there are too many negatives and too many other sites that offer a bit more, especially as I prefer vids to pics. Nowadays before I join a site I always try to work out the TR - tattoo ratio.
Good to hear that. I find it hard to believe that sites with really good customer service use cross selling. To me TMW looks a lot better now and better organised than last time I visited.
Yes that's what I've been thinking. It's spreading like a disease. Not just cross selling but dirty tricks on the whole. Soon everyone will be doing it just to keep up with those who are. I am starting to hope all porn sites go broke and get what they deserve. Once that happens people will have to start actually warching all the stuff they've downloaded. Wont that be boring!?
When I originally reviewed this network it had no pre checked cross selling. I thought I would join again as it looked to have improved since that review. Unfortunately it now has pre checked cross selling. Sad and frustrating to see one more network which previously had a good reputation join the tricky rip off con alliance.
Good review pat. I was going to join this network a few weeks ago but found they are now trying to trick customers with pre checked cross selling. That's a shame because it does look better than when I was last here.
Thanks for the comments Micha. Ouch! I thought I was being mean with my mark, as it's the second lowest of all the active reviews. Most give middle eighties to middle nineties. I didn't have the download troubles that you had, but slow speeds do make membership a pain. Slowest site I've experienced is VideoBox.
I agree with some of your comments concerning the lesser sites on the network, but there's a lot of good and great material to be had if you like their style. It's not particularly to my taste, but others love it. I agree with your views on navigation and search. It became such a pain I gave up and almost certainly missed a lot of good material.
There's quite a large cross section of opinion on this one. I suppose the bottom line for a potential customer is, do you consider the idiosyncratic style of the material to your taste and therefore make it worth putting up with the faults? Thing is, if this network could improve their camerawork up to their best standard, equal that standard with photo sets, and improve navigation, they could be an amazing network - given the scores some award, a number of members already think they are.
Thanks slutty, I don't think they're all screen caps but I think most are. It's a big surprise because given the excellent HD quality of the vids you would think they would pay more attention to the pics.
Thanks Stas. My main concern was not to put people off the network because those who love slim young models will love the site. I'm a mean miserable bastard, and though my mark was lowish compared to some other members it wasn't that low compared to others I have done. It's just personal taste, and for some this is a must see, at least once.
Thanks Ik, looks like we agree. Much as I dislike the TeenCoreClub network, and the contempt they have for customers, they do a better job of showing off the models.
Whatever happened to puppy fat? When I was a kid, teen girls had puppy fat.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
No DRM, no download restrictions, and no pre ticked cross selling dirty tricks.
Established company using Epoch as agent.
No regional discrimination.
A number of sites with a wealth of material and many pretty girls.
Not many tats and fake breasts.
$10 discount through TBP/PU.
Good quality high spec videos with the newer updating sites.
Updates are dated.
Model index.
Reasonable easy sign in. Once you have signed in you can go to any site on the network without going through the process again.
Pics are zipped.
Videos can be downloaded complete or in shorter segments.
The HD quality of the newer videos along with the unglamorous way they are shot, gives a real sense of two people having sex.
Cons:
Awful, truly dreadful, uninspiring home pages, which all look the same. making it very hard to choose clips.
Surprisingly poor selection of pictures. Some look like video caps. Those that aren't video caps, or aren't badly lit, I find to be unerotic. Personally I think they do not make the most of the model.
Too many skinny girls. Teen does not have to mean anorexic.
Navigation is difficult because everything looks the same.
Some sites don't update at all, and the quality is quite poor on these. Private Teen Video and Home Teen Vids for example. Here you get too many close ups, or angles from a distance where you cannot see anything, and terrible dark lighting.
Too many condoms - mainly on the older sites.
The lighting and camerawork is better on the updating sites but the samey uninspired photography and camerawork makes everything, especially the models, look the same.
Little in the way of stripping, showing off the model's body, or build up of plot.
Bottom Line:
It is just a personal thing, but I found this to be the most disappointing network I have visited. The girls are mostly of two types - white blonde and skinny, or white brunette and skinny, with little ethnic diversity. They all look very much alike. The way the videos and pics are shot exacerbates this impression. For some members, the thin girls will be an absolute plus, so I admit this is all about personal taste. I wish I had seen the Exotics4me review before I joined. It is very accurate imo. Add 10 points to the score if you like thin young models but subtract 15 if you don't.
Overall I found the network to be disappointing for photos, They often look like screen caps, and even those that don't do not, imo, capture the full beauty of the model. The one notable exception to this is the sadly defunct Nubiles HD where they have very good high definition photos. I found dimensions of 2048x1360 and 3168x4752 here, were mainly well lit, and made the models look good.
Some sites mostly do high. medium. and low quality videos in wmv, but the specs vary from site to site. High is generally 1280x720, medium is 860x480 and low is 480x270. However sometimes high quality is only 720x576. Some sites do high quality in wmv, medium in FLV and low in MP4 for portable devices, Fuck Studies in addition offers Ipod/Iphone Format and Mobile Format. Photo specs vary. 960x1440, 1024x768, 1280x853, 2048x1360, up to 3168x4752 on Nubiles HD, but once again the quality on the older defunct sites is not so good with specs down to 720x576.
You can download short two minute clips or whole videos. Streaming is available which I found to be good quality and customer friendly.
I think they try to give an impression of individual sites with different content on sites like Tricky Masseur and Beauty Angels, but for me, it is all very much of a muchness. Certainly the newer sites have much better video and picture quality, as well as content. The defunct ones are poor quality by today's standards. Poor in terms of both video and picture spec, poor lighting and poor camera angles. They are also a turn off for me, as they use condoms a lot.
I have tried to be as objective as possible. Obviously this network was not to my taste. I found the samey homogeneous nature of the videos and pics to be uninspiring and seemingly produced by a company that is using a painting by numbers approach. Despite this, if you are into slim young girls TMW will certainly be of interest, and I recommend you check it out. Despite the relative shortage of quality pictures, the video quality on the updating sites makes this a must see for those into a certain type of model, because there is plenty to see and download.
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