Yep Cap'n, same applies here, which probably makes us sort of weird. Being weird is something I came to accept, and eventually be proud of. Better that, than be mainstream sheep, being told what to watch, what to think, and what to consume.
As a final PS before the review gets buried, I think I had better add that if you go to the model directory or photos on 18 Eighteen, you will find a wealth of archive softcore photos. Finding hardcore is very rare, but the softcore picture archives go back ten years. I should have put that in the review, but being more a hardcore fan I virtually ignored it, and the navigation is not user friendly, so I gave up searching. There is also some hardcore in there which is not listed under hardcore.
Otoh - I was looking at porn from the age of 8, which is 45 years ago (and look what it's done to me). Shaved was definitely not the norm, it was all bushy, except in early days when they couldn't show pubic hair at all. I remember having a conversation when I was 17 with another school friend about trimmed pussy. Even then I preferred the shaven look, but he preferred the natural look. I was ahead of my time! It's possible my preference comes from those old 50's and 60's pics where they couldn't show pubic hair.
Thanks Graymane, it's always nice to receive a positive comment. Yeah I have always hated those gynaecological close ups. I want to see the whole beautiful girl. It's not so bad on the pics, and the photography is good. It's just on the videos they close in far too often for my taste. It's been a problem with porn since the very start, and this site is by no means the worst. Even on those old fashioned 70's films with plots, that some members here rave about, there were a lot of closeups in the hardcore scenes. There were stand ins for some of the actresses in quite a few of those too, which is why they used the closeups.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
No DRM/DL limits.
A variety of download options with good download speed.
Sites still updating.
Lack of irritating things Porn Users hate like pulling hair, spitting, slapping, insulting the models, mucking about on camera etc.
Good customer service, and no pre checked cross sells.
No regional discrimination.
$10 discount for 18 Eighteen through TBP/PU.
Easy sign in procedure.
Good quality video and zipped pics.
Mostly no contraceptives.
Models are young, attractive, have girl next door looks, and there are mercifully few fake breasts.
Cons:
Navigation is difficult, not least because there are far too many links and adverts for trying to sell members material outside the membership.
Far too many tattoos and piercings.
To use a perfect Drooler phrase - "pussy fixated" sums up the photography and camerawork, which is a shame because they are professionally done, with both the videos and pics looking good. It's just there are far too many close up groin shots, and three quarter shots, especially in the videos, where you don't see the whole model.
Very little anal.
Suprisingly few videos compared to some sites, especially long serving ones. Less than half the material on 18 Eighteen is hardcore.
Bottom Line:
TNA Tryouts and Picking Up Pussy are included with membership. You get a 10 dollar discount through TPB/PU. I was more interested in TNA and PUP than 18 Eighteen as they specialise more in hardcore, but I joined through 18 because of the discount. Less than half of the 18 Eighteen material is hardcore.
Pics come in downloadable zips or you can watch them as slideshows. Videos can be streamed or downloaded. Specs are as follows-:
Pics 1600 high or 800 medium resolution. TNA only has around 16-30 in each set whereas PUP and 18 Eighteen have 50-80.
Full downloadable videos in HD wmv at 1280x720 and medium HD wmv at 854x480. Medium wmv at 640x360 and mp4 at 640x360. There are also 5 minute segments in wmv at 640x360 and 360x240, or mp4 at 640x360. Unfortunately 18 Eighteen does not have the high 1280x720 downloadable videos. They do have 720 HD streaming. Full videos or 5 minute clips are available for mobile devices.
The videos on TNA Tryouts take the form of a girl coming to the door and pretending to be a newcomer. She takes part in a short interview before doing a strip and having sex. On Picking Up Pussy the build up takes the form of a girl being picked up by a driver or on a street/in a park. On 18 Eighteen the sex starts a little quicker. You see the same girls on all three sites, so the build up is just a bit of acting to get the scene going. Camera work and pics are good quality, but once again there is far to too much groin/pussy oriented and three quarter close ups for my taste.
On TNA Tryouts and Picking Up Pussy the videos and photo sets are dated, so although they are kept separate you can match up the pics to the video. On 18 Eighteen it's horrible. Very little is dated so in most cases you have to find either the photo set or video, then go to the model directory to match up the videos and pics. In fact there are so many bits and pieces, which are usually not great quality, that trying to find anything is very time consuming and annoying, because it's all mixed up with the upsells. Some of the material comes with the membership, some of it doesn't, and it's really tedious trying to sort out which is which. In the end I spent most of my time on the two bonus sites.
As on all sites, the older material is poorer quality. Given how long 18 Eighteen has been going I was surprised at how little high spec material was available. There was not a lot of hardcore avavailable on 18 Eighteen, but the other two sites are purely hardcore. Today I have counted 15 videos and photo sets on TNA, with 5 of them being 2011 updates. On PUP there are 30 videos and photo sets, with 5 being 2011 updates.
On cancellation there was an offer to remain for five pounds. If navigation was not so hard I'd have probably taken the offer.
However, I consider the money well spent, and good value. This is another site that I find to be almost old fashioned, and better for it, because of the lack of those annoying cons that we all hate.
Good review, as always. I like this sort of thing, so was interested to hear what Sex Video Casting was like. I presumed there was no hardcore, but it sounds as though I was wrong. I don't really like the ddf heavily made up 10,000 shoots a month sort of porn, but this site sounds a bit different, and more to my liking.
Silly bugger - me that is. When I referred to the $10 discounted price through Porn Users, I of course meant TBP. I'm sure anyone who reads it will know what I mean. Just in case they don't - you have to go to The Best Porn and click on 18 Eighteen and follow the link to get the discounted sign up price.
Ik - yep I finally found a place that got me back on the straight and narrow, and downloading legit porn again.
I have to give the thumbs up for this organisation. I've been downloading for free for the last few months because I refuse to take out a membership with any site that tries to trick potential customers with pre checked cross sales. I have thought of joining this one for several months but was put off by the cross sales. Then yesterday I checked once again but couldn't find the pre checked box. Were they hiding it in an attempt to trick us? I sent the following email.
"I have been thinking about taking out a membership to this site. However I have always been put off joining any site that tries to trick members with pre checked cross sells. There is a warning on Porn Users about pre checked cross sells on 18 Eighteen, but I cannot see any on the join up page. It has a tick besides the discount of $19.95. Is there a hidden pre checked cross sell?
Please let me know if you have stopped trying to trick people. If there is no pre checked cross sell I may well try the site for a month. If there is an attempt to dishonestly steal money I shall be complaining to both my credit card company, the biling agent, and also publishing a warning on Porn Users."
I didn't expect a reply but surprisingly received one. The email read "Thank you for contacting us, I went online to make sure it doesn't have a pre-checked box for another site. And we do offer another site for a discounted rate BUT you must manually check the box to receive the offer."
I mailed back "Thanks for your reply. Having to manually check the box is fine by me. It's the pre checked ones I hate. I think I shall give it a go."
They replied " Thanks for the reply, we used to have it like that and to satisfy the clients we removed it and now you must check the box yourself to receive the discounted rate for the additional site."
Now hats off to any site that responds to demand. I signed on, and so far am pleased that I did. I originally was attracted to TNA Tryouts too. However if you join this site or Picking Up Pussy it costs $29.99 for the three sites - 18 Eighteen, TNA Tryouts, and Picking Up Pussy. However if you join 18 Eighteen through Porn Users you receive the same three sites - for the discounted price of $19.99.
I will be doing a rare review in a few weeks, but at first glance I really like it. Too many tats and piercings for my taste, but not many fake breasts. Attractive girls too, with mainly good quality pics and videos, so I consider it a worthwhile purchase. Finally a site that is worthy of receiving my money.
I'm sure it is very rare. If it did happen, ignore her and stay well clear. Life is not a porn film, which is just as well, otherwise I'd have to change the sofa every week. I even stayed clear of a friend's sister because I am uneasy about that sort of thing. Even though it was his siter and not mine, it would not feel right.
Another excellent review. Ik did one on Teenamite, and these two networks do look okay. No dirty tricks I presume. I will not tolerate regional discrimination or pre checked cross sales. I may even stop downloading for free and join a deserving network.
Well done, another informative review. I am still tempted by this network. The Fuck Studies review by Pat also makes that network sound good. My comments on Messmer's Video Box review sums up how I feel at the moment. Not sure whether any site deserves my money. Doesn't sound like any dirty tricks on this network though.
Oh dear, I know you're right. Porn.com pissed me off because of their trick of trying to convince me that their "discount" of buying into the exact same network for 3 times the money, when I tried to cancel membership, is a good deal. Otherwise I would still be with them. VideosZ tries to trick you into buying membership with a pre checked cross sale, so they pissed me off too. One or two others I went to join had the same dirty tricks, as well as regional discrimination.
The result of all this is that for the past three months I have been downloading for free using those file sharing sites which Khan and Rick hate. I send a resounding "fuck you" to VideosZ, Porn.com, pre checked cross sellers, and regional discrimination sites. Piss me off or try to trick me and you lose my custom. I'm, not putting up with it, and I don't have to. If you go out of business, good.
I have been tempted for the past two years to join VideosZ but I couldn't stomach the cross sell so I never joined. Good to hear you don't think they're any better than Video Box. Plenty annoys me about VB too. I have money, I'm willing to spend it, but for the life of me, I cannot find a site worthy of receiving my money.
Messmer, sorry about this, but once again it sounds like I'm angry. I'm always angry.
Interesting review. I hadn't heard of this site before. Looks good but the download limits make it a no. Otherwise I would probably have given it a shot.
Missed this review first time around otherwise would have commented that I entirely agree with the review and the score. I'm sure they still have the perspective on some of the videos wrong too. Now American Vice has gone there isn't much to choose from in the way of quality video sites. I'd settle for just one, because that's all you need, but I can't find it.
This is the site that used to be known for dodgy practices, then suddenly TBP starts to give it good reviews but without saying why. Pink Panther brought this up in a comment. I avoided the site even though it looks like it has good material. Once a bunch of dodgy scumbags, always a bunch of dodgy scunmags.
Thanks for the comprehensive review IK - this is one of the sites I have been pondering over whether to join. It sounds like a good possibility. Only thing that puts me off a little, is that teen shouldn't always mean thin. There are teens around with a good figure. It seems Teenburg have never heard about puppy fat, because most of the models do look like they need a good meal. Okay, I'm being picky again. Looks like a reasonable site.
Great review Denner. I agree with everything you say with only one exception. The only thing we disagree on is the navigatiion. I find it really irritating and hard.
It's a shame there is a relatively small amount of hardcore compared to softcore, and that the video quality isn't a little better. Drooler also brought up the point about there being too many pussy oriented close ups.
Some of the models are a little average, but a lot do look like amateurs. Like you, I mentioned in my review that I considered the place to have an almost old fashioned kind of feel, and that's not a bad thing at all. Given the state of current porn, I think some of us like a place where they don't abuse or insult the model, have mouthy cameramen, or models with tons of tats and fake breasts. I gave it fewer points than you did but I'm a really mean S.O.B.
Agreed. I will not subscribe to a site that does that. A good reason why some who would willingly pay for material from that company will now download for free.
Another top notch review. Being the way I am, I look at the negatives first. This is a site I should be tempted to join but I'm not. Something about the girls and style which look so hard pro and well worn that it puts me off.
Another top notch informative review. This is a site I wasn't aware of and would certainly have igonored because I would have assumed mosaic censorship.
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