It was you that once led me to Trike Patrol, several years ago, I think. I wish Jimmy would tone down the dramatics and work with us instead of trying to get an attitude with everyone and trying to start some kind of rebellion on his site against us.
It's kind of sad that he believes the average porn consumer is going to side with him after they see how he talks to everyone here. I had said before I posted the review I was going to give it a 65 but while reviewing it, I noticed the Flight Club and still think it looks very questionable. You know the worst part? As of right now, two of his members have sent emails saying they like him but agree about his business decisions being bad. It's like he didn't consider the negative consequences of asking his members to come here.
Thanks for the compliments and support, Shen. This is roughly round 712 with a webmaster. Maybe Jimmy will realize none of us are really against him. We have kind of "adopted" a few webmasters in the past and helped them out.
You're right about your navigation. It is terrible. If I could ever be of any use to you for advice (I won't charge), I would be willing to help you out with figuring out how to reprogram it, make it more user-friendly, post on here or on the Porn Users forum and ask. Believe it or not Jimmy, we do not get any joy from "bashing" a site. Humility is the key. Porn Users could be your best friends. I will give you that about conquests number but if you look back at my comment, I based my number just on your estimation of 2.5 hardcore scenes per week. You know why? I didn't know which were just the sex scenes and which weren't. What then comes up is how many of those are just part 1, part 2, part 3 and so on? I know one of the newer conquests has 5 parts in it. Does that count as 5 or 1?
On the ads, I can't use ADblock or something like no script. I have work chats, some are flash, some are java. I already use 3 browsers so I'm not disabling one of them just to be able to visit a porn site. The main ones I have a problem with are the moving ones. I'm not worried about clicking on them. I will say I almost missed the flight club because I saw the box for it and saw it was blue in color in the upper taskbar. I thought it required a different membership but I did go into it. I can see your point with it but why make users have to earn the right to download a scene? Imagine the way you would be looked at if you said, "You know what, members? You can download all 70 of those right now for no miles." I've been around porn since 2003. I'm not saying that to show my knowledge over yours. I'm saying I've seen many webmasters just like you, that are now working for Mind Geek.
I like that you all have exclusive content. I would rather join a site like yours than a mainstream, cookie-cutter site but you have to be willing to work with what some of your consumers want or you alienate them. I gave your site +35 for the models and believable sex. That's as big of an addition as nearly two of the biggest deductions combined.
Last, you mentioned to I believe Shen or Jook that you all are protecting the models. Why doesn't Trike Patrol? Porn is illegal in the Philippines. I just don't believe your explanation on that. Porn is frowned upon in nearly every country in the world.
To show you what happens when you bring negative attention to someone else, one of your members has already contacted me. Not defending you but telling me, "Jimmy is being a douchebag. Ask him how many of the Conquests are from Date Slam!" I didn't know what Date Slam was but I see it is another of your sites. You sharing "exclusive" content between your sites? Don't turn yourself into Julius Caesar, Jimmy. There's a Brutus around every corner.
Advice to survive in the porn world, when you fall in a hole, jump out. Don't stand there and dig yourself deeper into it.
You're right about your navigation. It is terrible. If I could ever be of any use to you for advice (I won't charge), I would be willing to help you out with figuring out how to reprogram it, make it more user-friendly, post on here or on the Porn Users forum and ask. Believe it or not Jimmy, we do not get any joy from "bashing" a site. Humility is the key. Porn Users could be your best friends. I will give you that about conquests number but if you look back at my comment, I based my number just on your estimation of 2.5 hardcore scenes per week. You know why? I didn't know which were just the sex scenes and which weren't. What then comes up is how many of those are just part 1, part 2, part 3 and so on? I know one of the newer conquests has 5 parts in it. Does that count as 5 or 1?
On the ads, I can't use ADblock or something like no script. I have work chats, some are flash, some are java. I already use 3 browsers so I'm not disabling one of them just to be able to visit a porn site. The main ones I have a problem with are the moving ones. I'm not worried about clicking on them. I will say I almost missed the flight club because I saw the box for it and saw it was blue in color in the upper taskbar. I thought it required a different membership but I did go into it. I can see your point with it but why make users have to earn the right to download a scene? Imagine the way you would be looked at if you said, "You know what, members? You can download all 70 of those right now for no miles." I've been around porn since 2003. I'm not saying that to show my knowledge over yours. I'm saying I've seen many webmasters just like you, that are now working for Mind Geek.
I like that you all have exclusive content. I would rather join a site like yours than a mainstream, cookie-cutter site but you have to be willing to work with what some of your consumers want or you alienate them. I gave your site +35 for the models and believable sex. That's as big of an addition as nearly two of the biggest deductions combined.
Last, you mentioned to I believe Shen or Jook that you all are protecting the models. Why doesn't Trike Patrol? Porn is illegal in the Philippines. I just don't believe your explanation on that. Porn is frowned upon in nearly every country in the world.
To show you what happens when you bring negative attention to someone else, one of your members has already contacted me. Not defending you but telling me, "Jimmy is being a douchebag. Ask him how many of the Conquests are from Date Slam!" I didn't know what Date Slam was but I see it is another of your sites. You sharing "exclusive" content between your sites? Don't turn yourself into Julius Caesar, Jimmy. There's a Brutus around every corner.
Advice to survive in the porn world, when you fall in a hole, jump out. Don't stand there and dig yourself deeper into it.
This might take two replies. If there's one thing I have a problem with everyday, even in real life, it is people that try to impose their self-worth and intellect on others. When I corrected your spelling of laughingstock it wasn't to be grammar nazi. It was to show you brought pettiness into our productive conversation with the insult of "laughing stock". I, in turn, corrected it with pettiness. Logical flow is the single-biggest reason our society fails at conversations. You nearly broke the logical flow with an insult. If you had not said "laughing stock", I couldn't have corrected it. Go ahead and say I did something wrong there. It's like blaming someone for stabbing you after you shot them.
I do appreciate your attempted civility in the explanation of industry/non-industry. You will be able to explain why I scored Girls Out West, one of the least industry sites, one with 100% amateur models, a 97 just two months ago, right? I said "attempted civility" because of this "you are pre-conditioned". Hi Jimmy, meet me, a PhD in Psychology and Philosophy. Pre-conditioned is what you do to leather or a cast iron skillet. The word you're looking for is predisposed. See how nice I am to you? You will be able to look like you really are talking over people's heads now. Back to talking eye to eye on a human level. I graded your site in comparison to Girls Out West not in comparison to Reality Kings of Brazzers. Girls Out West has over 4,000 videos, over 2,000 photo sets. They are all downloadable. The videos are 720p to 1080p and the photos are up to 6000 long end. They update everyday with a full video and their price is $29.95. The advantage your site has is I much prefer your models. I would love to love your site. That's what you are not willing to understand. My biggest problem with your site is in your business philosophy (no downloads, high price, low quality photos, annoying ads). Those are things you can fix. Those are things your members at ASD might very well turn on you over once it's pointed out to them like you did by inviting them here.
Another attempt at pettiness with "The 90s called big pictures and video downloads". Jimmy, in the 90s, most of us were on dial-up, we weren't downloading big pictures and definitely not videos. I remember having DSL in 2003, I believe. Cable in 2005. You're using a diversionary tactic to avoid the reality of 90% of all porn sites, industry/non-industry, allow downloads and aim for the highest quality pictures and videos. It's your choice to give your consumers what you want. It's their choice to criticize you for it and not come back. I would rather your site excels and blows Mind Geek out of the water than to see it fail but you won't believe that because you only seem to listen to you.
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Just making a note here for PU members and staff. Sometime, earlier today, I was at work and saw that Jimmy has put a feedback request up on his site.
"Perplexing review by user on pornusers - Agree/disagree? Come voice your support for Asian Sex Diary!"
It links to my review. I know the Porn Users rules under "content standards". I know he is breaking multiple rules. He singled me out in the link and directed his members to voice their support for him.
I'm posting this at 10:55 PM on 4/2/2019. It can be used to see how many sudden Jimmy supporters we have show up.
I will continue my productive conversation with Jimmy in the review comments.
Last, this should be used to see who is "stirring the pot".
I just want to add a few facts. Facts cannot be argued.
The trophies/model list is 7 models wide by 12 tall. That is 84 models per page, 7 full pages = 588. There are 12 on page 8. So 600.
I compared Trike to ASD based on value. Your numbers above, which I appreciate, says 2.5 hardcore scenes per week so 130 per year, 6 years x 130 is 780. Your numbers also say Trike has 500 plus. I can download 0 from ASD for $40. I can download 500 plus from Trike for $30. We have to stay on the same page to make this work.
I won't defend myself for removing points for non-Asian pornstars being on an amateur Asian site. That sounds like an "industry", "non-industry" dilemma.
And could you explain what you consider industry and non-industry? I have no motives with the one question in this. I am just curious.
Go easy on the insults, Jimmy. Laughingstock is one word.
I almost held off on posting it but I doubt I will go back to the site. I kept running out of characters or I would have explained the Flight Club offer better. I kept having to remove a sentence here and there.
Here is the offer:
"Written Info Article: +400 miles for a well-written article on any particular subject related to hot Asians and porn lifestyle. (min: 4 paragraphs)"
I also noticed two "reviews" by Chevy14 on Freeones which explains why he said he was updating his review here. It's copy and pasted on Freeones. His first review is on Rabbit's Reviews in the comments too. He must have got confused and pasted the 2nd one here.
The newest review very much goes into the porn lifestyle, he talks about John setting out to creampie as many local Asians, more creampies for European Porn Stars and even African women. He also talks about all the countries John visits.
I think the worst part was I originally had it lowered to 10. My main thinking if the webmaster replies to it is he can tell me anything inaccurate in it.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- An Amateur Asian porn site. That is relatively rare these days.
- Over 500 models (see cons).
- I like their sites Trike Patrol and Tuk-Tuk Patrol. Those also feature John Tron who is on ASD as well.
- Some of the Asian models are very attractive.
- Kind of updates "daily", an example of kind of, the March 30th update is a 30 second video of John Tron talking and standing in an airport terminal, I guess. The screenshot that I clicked on showed a very pretty Asian woman in tight jean shorts but she's not in the video.
Cons:
Cons will be explained in the bottom line:
- The navigation is very bad. You have three search options: alphabetical, country and date of release.
- The value is very low. $40 for no downloads, not even the photos.
- The photo quality is 1600 long end at best. That was barely acceptable in 2007.
- The blogs, the master guides, have not updated since 2015.
- Non-Asian models. It's an Amateur Asian site! I can see American and European amateurs all over the internet.
- The price. It's the only website on the internet that is $40 with no downloads.
- The ads. Seriously? 12 ads in the right margin and 3 are moving? For a $40 a month website?
- The Flight Club, a rewards system, definitely see Bottom Line.
- The camerawork in doggystyle.
- Some of John's own comments to members make you wonder how "unique" he is.
- Their own sites Trike Patrol and Tuk-Tuk Patrol have nearly as much "sex" content with downloads and are cheaper.
- A lot of cleaning up needs to be done on the site.
Bottom Line:
I considered saving this for my 350th review. I have both welcome emails to verify I am a full, paying member on the site. Seemed too easy to just jump in and pummel the site. The truth is I wanted to like this site. I once read something by John Tron about his frustration with Americanized women and I could relate. I have read other things by him about his love of Asian women.
I expected this site to have problems with me. The no downloads is a problem since I am a collector but would someone really try to sell a site for $40 a month, no downloads and not deliver with a very unique experience? I took that risk. They set the precedent with the price and no downloads.
The content reminds me a little of Amateur Allure. It's formulaic. Some of the models are really pretty. There is an indifferent part for me but could be a positive or negative to others. Most scenes end in a creampie. I'm indifferent to both the creampie and facial. I do want to note before the creampie, some of the videos skip a little. Looks to be edited. It isn't my connection. I'm on gig internet.
The streaming videos look good if you go full-screen. If you don't go full-screen you will have at least one moving ad and five more ads beside the video player. There are also 6 moving ads below the video player.
I watched several of the non-sex videos, a few funny moments, but nothing special. The photos look like they could be good until you click one and see it's lost in 2007. They are 1200 to 1600 long end depending on the orientation of the photo. You also can't download the photos.
In a comparison, I watched 2 of their "sample" videos on free porn hub, a tube site, they allow the content to be there. I only had to see 2 ads beside the video player on free porn hub. The videos are shorter (9-12 minutes) on porn hub but it's because they edited out most of the bouncy camera parts.
Each doggystyle section is similar to mounting a camera on a mountain bike and riding it down the mountain. They also use a fixed camera for doggystyle. This gives you the unique experience of only seeing the woman's side boob, side butt and John's side gut.
The blogs haven't updated since 2015. The product reviews by John haven't updated but once in the last year and one of the newest reviews is an external hard drive. Something you won't need on this site.
One of John's replies to a member that asked if he was going to bring the model back ... "asking every day. Her husband seems to be the problem". The site's tagline is, "Conquering Asia: One slanted pussy at a time."
Member reviews have long been based on "value" meaning price/what you keep from the site. That is $40/0. Look at that, I found the unique part about the site! It's the only site on the internet charging $40 for what is equal to a glorified tube site, except it has more ads than a tube site.
I started the review saying the site set the precedent. It is what happens when you insist on playing by different rules than other competitors. I'm not talking about mainstream porn, either. I'm talking about Trike Patrol and Tuk-Tuk Patrol. They have downloads and are $10 cheaper.
I believe ASD jacked their price up to get people like me to think "they must be doing something really special on this site to charge $40 for no downloads." I would have been much happier with a month of Trike Patrol.
I'll end with the Flight Club. They reward you points for things like being a member (+100), for logging in (+10) which pays them for all those ad views, commenting (+10) probably reloads the ads. You can "buy" scenes for 600 to 2000 points. Oh and for writing "informative articles" about Hot Asians and Porn (+400). I'm wondering if I get those points for my review? I noticed at least one "member" (the 99) review here has the same review all over the internet. A note on the price, the 2013 TBP reviews said the price was $29.95. How many sites have increased their price from 2013 to 2019? Upon canceling, Vendo offered me a "please stay" discount of $19.95 a month.
I used the same scale I have used for 12 years and on 349 reviews to write this review. I rarely list all deductions or additions since there usually aren't this many. I will not argue or debate with their webmaster but he is welcome to comment. Here are the additions and subtractions.
-20 for no video downloads.
-20 for the price shifting/overall value.
-10 for the non-Asian models.
-10 for poor photo quality and no photo downloads.
-10 for the ads, the not updated blogs.
-10 for a rewards system that awards members for shilling the site and clears their points as soon as they cancel, even if they still have membership left.
That's 100-80 = 20
+35 for the pretty amateur Asian models and the non-doggystyle believable sex.
+3 because I don't like odd numbers.
Of note: I have taken -20 for poor photos and no photo downloads before. I knew I couldn't add enough points to make up enough to get it to 50 points.
100-80+38 = 58.
The saddest part about your responses is it shows how shallow webmasters can be. You look at the score and it dictates whether you are happy or not. You don't realize that 99 from two weeks ago hurts your site. No one believes a site with 4 pros and 3 cons is a 99.
It's sad because you are downplaying the incredibly thorough review mbaya gave your site. It shows you as being a little self-centered. You don't think other people will look beyond the score since you don't? Maybe some people aren't bothered by no downloads and could add some points back for the 20 point deduction. He posted an explanation for every deduction and addition. He could have buried your site but instead he gave it a 70 and left it open for others to decide what matters to them and what doesn't.
He did it for free on his own time. And your response is to come here and belittle him and his review? I know you advertise Rabbit's 89 review of your site and say you are the highest rated Asian site but you know what? When I saw "no downloads" Rabbit's 89 dropped to a 69, in my eyes. See why the number doesn't matter as much as you think?
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- I am reviewing this more as a network than individual site. You get several Asian sites and a few European or American sites. This is the site I joined through but I think Creampie Thais is considered the flagship site.
- 10 sites are included IF you join through Asian Suck Dolls (see bottom line).
- All the scenes I have watched on the different sites are downloadable in 480p or 720p. Creampie Thais has up to 4K.
- The action is pretty good on the sites and most if not all of the "models" look like amateurs to me.
- Easy cancel through a biller I had never used called Tea Money Media.
- Fairly large collection when you combine all the sites.
Cons:
- Most of the sites on this network look like they are 10 or more years old. Why does that matter?
- The dates on the scenes show every site as still updating with new content. That's a double con. I guess they don't think people will realize the video quality gives away the age of the content. Or that TBP has reviews from 5-10 years ago and the numbers haven't gone up.
- The European sites just threw me off (bottom line goes into this too).
- The navigation has some major glitches in it.
Bottom Line:
What we have here is a network of sites, a true network at that from Ghost Pro. I bounced back and forth on my score because there's some tomfoolery going on here. I always wanted to work that word into a review.
Ghost Pro has 17 sites. Most of them are Asian sites. I think Creampie Thais, Creampie in Asia and Thai Girls Wild are considered the three top ones but only one of those came with my membership to Asian Suck Dolls. If I wanted to pay more and join through Creampie in Asia, I would have got Thai Girls Wild too and only Asian bonus sites.
See that tomfoolery? Most of these sites are nearing generic. To get the other ones I would like to have, I am going to have to join through Creampie in Asia. They could combine this group of Asian sites and have a really nice 10-11 site Asian network but instead would rather have me pay them twice to get all 10-11 of their Asian sites. Tomfoolery is a nice word compared to what I should describe them as.
There is no way this is new content. I will use Trixie Swallows as an example. It launched in 2003, no kidding. The last TBP update in 2016 shows it having 160 videos. Here on 9/3/2020, it has less than 160, more like 130-135 and according to the site it has updated 6 times since the beginning of August 2020. Tomfoolery.
But I do like some of the content. Asian Suck Dolls is kind of like an Asian version of Amateur Allure. It has 60 scenes on it and these all look like amateurs to me. I don't recognize any of them. And they are not just oral scenes. The scenes have full sex and sometimes bouncy camera to boot.
Creampie Thais is a good site, TBP scored it 84. I do believe it is still updating as it has 4K videos and it's as good of a creampie site as I have joined. I'm indifferent to creampies so it's not getting any bonus for those from me but overall if you're into creampies there are nearly 200 videos and I do think they are updating.
Asian Sybian had potential for me since I like solo and even though Sybian doesn't make for the best porn it can be fun to watch women try it the first time. It only has 21 scenes on it and these young Asian women last about 4-6 minutes.
Go Go Bar Auditions is pretty good. I thought it would be Thai girls stripping and having sex onstage but it's not. It's more like casting couch scenes. They do have some of these with 1080p video.
I can see what they have done. They have included a couple newer sites with a couple older sites and thrown in some Euro sites to flesh the numbers out instead of packaging their best Asian sites all in one package so you have to join two different sites to get all their sites. I am tempted to join through Creampie in Asia which would get me their other Asian sites and if I do, it will have cost $50 total to get all their Asian sites. I am going on a hunch that says they didn't record the Euro sites they have.
I will say their creampie sites look as good as any of the Asian creampie sites and they offer good quality videos and downloads, something some Asian creampie sites don't offer.
There are pluses and negatives here. This will show it even more. As a true network each site has its own model list, the scenes are listed just from the site you select and that's something I really like in navigation of a group of sites. But there are major glitches. Up in the corner of every page is a dropdown box with the different sites you have access to in it. Each one you click on asks you to sign-in. Your login won't work on any of them. In the middle top of each page there is a "bonus sites" section. You click that and it shows all the sites included just like the dropdown box does, same sites. If you click the name of the bonus site ... it takes you to a join screen like you're not even logged in. If you click the link that says, "Take me to the members area" that works. One out of three ways to get to the other sites works.
That's how the whole network feels to me. If you do the math of good sites they include when you join Asian Suck Dolls, it's about a 1/3 good ratio too.
If you like creampies and Asian women in 1080p or 4K this might be the only site that offers that with Creampie Thais. Besides their other site Creampie in Asia. There's value here but you're going to work to get it.
I think my biggest surprise was how easy it was to cancel with them. I kept the score at a decent score as I think joining through Creampie in Asia will give me a better experience as far as content goes.
I just believe they could have themselves a very good Asian network if they stopped splitting their sites up into two packages. I might go ahead and join their other sites and see how it is.
Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Bizarre, kinky, very hardcore and it's uncensored Japanese.
- 215 scenes, video with each, gravure (studio) photos, screencaps, all are downloadable.
- 75 models, they seem to be specific to this hard fetish content.
- 10 categories to choose from and some are quite a bit rougher than I'm used to.
- Easy to navigate, also has tags that help and are accurate.
- 1080p available on all scenes
Cons:
- Could use more video download options, 1080p, 540p and a mobile version.
- Probably more hardcore than the average porn fan would be into.
- Updates are not following a schedule. Latest update was March 30, 2020, previous one was December 2019.
Bottom Line:
We will say you took Kink's dungeon and moved it to a dark alley in Japan. Then you set it on fire and conjured up demons. That's kind of how this site feels.
There are sexy parts, some very pretty models but the fetishes and punishment takes center stage.
If you just randomly selected some scenes from here there's a good chance each one would freak you out a little more than the previous one. If I was going to make a direct comparison to another site, it kind of reminds me of Public Disgrace. The scenes feature multiple men. One female. They take turns with her, they burn candle wax on her and something I had never seen, dropping burning candle wax onto the tongue.
The scenes could use subtitles. There's obviously a story going on in each.
There is even the use of a pillory. The amount of burning objects and fire didn't get me too excited as my one big fear in life is fire. They will light something on fire and put it near the model's face. I'm sure like Kink, they are very careful and it's safer than it looks but it's out there for sure.
The collection is not real big with 215 scenes. I do like that they include gravure pictures in zips since you rarely see the woman looking happy in the scenes.
The quality is good, I would have been happier if they had 720p instead of 540p but that's not a huge problem. Every scene has 1080p option.
I think people that are into bondage would be the direct audience. There's a lot of rope play and restraints. As hardcore of it seems to be there's some scenes that are very erotic. You get some where they have the model in spread eagle and you're looking right at her pussy as she's getting wet and stimulated. One the other side of it, there's one with a model with probably a dozen clothespins attached to her boobs, suspended in the air with melted candle wax stuck on her face AND a large flame in front of her face. Maybe I'm not as understanding to some of this but wouldn't the flame touching the melted wax restart the flame on the wax?
None of the women seem to be anymore despair than on a site like Kink. These models seem very acclimated to this style of porn and most even look like they enjoy it. It's hard to tell without subtitles and with the stereotypical laugh/cry for help some of the Japanese models have.
It's definitely not my favorite site but you do get some good multi-person scenes. One of the scenes has as many as 4 men with Magic Wand vibrators using them all at the same time on the woman. They have some homemade looking sex toys too like what looks like a chainsaw but instead has a dildo on the end.
If they do something better than most American sites in this type of porn it's that the Asian models are more believably under serious stress and fear. That can make it difficult to watch if you're sensitive to seeing someone in despair or it could be exactly what you like. Maybe it's the lack of English? It makes the "acting" more believable.
If nothing else, it's an interesting site. It is also included with the excellent Japan HDV network. Which is why I mentioned subtitles. The scenes on Japan HDV have subtitles. These don't. It's worth a look just to show you a different style of bondage than we are used to here in the western hemisphere.
Look at all this booty! This is a great site, not quite ready to review it yet, but this site should be called, "Big Assed Booty" not Ass Masterpiece. The quality is really good, some of the best and to my surprise, this is not an anal site. I thought it would be considering the name, but the name is based on the fine trailers these women are towing in the back of their pants. Reminds me a great deal of Round and Brown on the Reality Kings network. It adds to an already very good Naughty America network.
Forgot to say, there's also an European version on Cum Louder called, Latin Asses in Public. Cum Louder has changed a lot and it's kind of hard to find but it's under "sites" in the preview. They seemed to knock off nearly every popular niche site from Bang Bros and Brazzers.
That's one of the old hidden gem sites. I checked my folder just to see and I actually have 74 videos from Asses In Public. I remember they had to remove a bunch of them. When it was running full-speed, I honestly thought it would end up being one of the greatest porn sites.
I was on there back in the summer and have some of their videos from then.
One is of Tanner Mayes, it is split into four separate parts, each part labeled like this tan035MAR_171305001, the second part is the same up to the underscore and changes to _171306001, third part is _171307001, fourth _17130801. The total scene is around 40 minutes long, but the downloaded parts are only 10 minutes each. There aren't any splash screens though. Each part fades out and the following part picks up right where it left off.
They do have some good videos, especially some of the older videos of now well-known models early in their careers, but the older ones are split into as many as 10 parts. About the only way to watch those is to line them up in a row in a media player playlist or else each part in those older ones are only 2-3 minutes each.
The technical quality varies a bit, but of the newer videos I have they are 640 high end with 1,900 bitrate. Occasionally you'll find a HD video that they've licensed from some other site.
From my experience, all of the ATK sites are much better for pictures than videos.
I didn't have that problem. I did the full tour, mainly because I was wanting to see if they had added the full zips yet (this was last week), and then clicked "Join Now" and received the discount. I actually had planned on posting a re-review of the site in the next few days that will be adding +4 to my original score.
I just clicked the comment to post a comment about the full set zips. I haven't downloaded any of them yet, but will be sure to check them with the WinRar software as I download them. I'm starting to think that $20 on WinRar to replace WinZip was one of my best investments!
I have been a member on ATK Galleria, ATK Exotics and ATK Premium, and to be honest, none of them are that great for movies. Exotics has some full scene downloads. Galleria has very few full scene downloads. Premium has most of their movies in 2 parts, which is better than 10, but a lot of Premium's movies are licensed from DDF/1ByDay.
I guess though, if I had to pick one for movies, I would go with Premium. The best thing about ATK Premium to me is that nearly every model is hot. It is sort of a best of the best site, that has their best models from each of their sites. Like with ATK Exotics, you are going to see a lot of average at best models, most of which are hardly desirable to download movies of.
Premium has some models that caught me off guard, like Twisty's Treat of the Month Georgia Jones, ATK Premium has a ton of her content, more than any site has, as a good example of their high quality models. Most of the models they have on Premium have 2,000 or more pictures and a handful of movies as well of each one.
I think ATK is going to give you a ton of women, pic quality is pretty good 1500, videos leave a lot to be desired. No full clips, and the quality isn't that good either. Picture wise though, the sheer number of models on this site is crazy. Let me throw a few numbers at you.
Models that have the name that start with letter A - 237
With the letter J - 145
With the letter K - 162
With the letter L - 175
With the letter M - 198
With the letter S - 190
As you can see, that right there is over 1,000 models. I'm not for sure the total, but I have to imagine it is over 2,000 models.
You also will get some really great nearly amateur photos of some of the top Euro models like Eve, Zafira, Sophie. That are from the early years of these model's careers. The only model I haven't found on here that I always check for is Lucky. I checked Lucy, Lucie, but nothing. Everyone else is here and many you haven't heard of and some that you wish you never saw!
It is a great site though I've been an ongoing member off and on for the last several years and have most of the stuff from it that I want. Updates come in bunches, daily too. One warning, not all of the content is exclusive. I know that with Eve, I've seen several of the sets on Twistys as well.
Paul Markham, I've heard of it but haven't tried, I believe that is the one that Sapphic Erotica gets their material or girls from? I do love Sapphic Erotica, so if it is anything like it, it should be great.
Karups PC, I have considered joining it more times than probably any site that I haven't joined. Matter of fact, I'm heading over to it after I finish this to see if they have a model list up. I've heard nothing but good things about Karups' line of sites.
If you have been on 1byday, especially back a few years ago, that is very similar to ATK Galleria. Loads of content, quality is average. Though, I heard 1byday is revamping their already great site. I'm stuck as well, I'm going to join a couple of sites tonight.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- One of the biggest picture collection on the internet
- Large daily updates
- Videos are decent quality, but there are many of them
- Some exclusive content
- Just about any model you can name from Europe is on this site
Cons:
- Despite the many updates, the site still looks the same from a couple of years ago.
- Videos only come in parts, so you get to download 4-5 clips to get a full scene
- I think the price could be lower, site is fairly similar to Twistys, which is $10 less per month.
Bottom Line:
Here is an old favorite of mine that I recently joined again to see how things have changed. Well, they haven't changed. There is still a whole lot of guessing and scrolling. Click on each letter of the alphabet, then start scrolling to find the models you are looking for.
The pictures are nice size, up to 1500, and can be downloaded in zips. On a side note there, the zips are split into parts, usually 4 or 5 tiny files, 2-4 megs each. Which shows that they need to update their site. Downloading 4 files that are 3 megs each with a 10M connection seems like a waste since as soon as I click save as, the file is finished.
Another complaint with the pictures is the way they are labeled by the model's name only, so you get to re-name them while realizing the sets are already finished downloading.
Don't get me wrong, it is one of the all-time great sites for those who collect pictures. The movies are good enough and if you have certain models you like, they are at least can be reached from the picture page instead of trying to find them in the movie gallery.
This is an especially good site if you like Euro models who are now in the elite Euro model group, most of them have older sets on this site that you won't find anywhere but here. You will even see some of those models that you knew as solo or g/g only doing b/g sets. If you've never been a member, bump the score up to a 95. If you've been a member, things haven't changed much, but I still recommend it!
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A network that is too big for its own good and too good for how big it is. See bottom line.
- I receive 7 sites with this network including ATK Girlfriends, which is not officially listed as part of it. Sites will be listed in the bottom line.
- Very high quality, amateur-level models, even though many either went on the pro careers or are better known than the typical amateur.
- Photography is excellent and zips are included. You just have to keep in mind these scenes and sets are filmed and photographed as amateur models walking in the studio. You’re not going to get a lot of glam.
- Videos are good and of good technical quality but the videos on most of the sites are not as good as the photosets. Those are downloadable videos.
- Download speeds are good (80% on my max).
- Price varies. I join this network once every year. Price can be as high as $99.95 and I have seen it as low as $49.95 and that’s for 7 sites that still sell as standalone sites at $19 - $29 each.
Cons:
- The content feels outdated. Porn has evolved and changed with time. It could be a pro or con. This is more like internet porn was in 2005-08. I like it but it may not immediately appeal to newer porn fans.
- Consistency would be good. Their content is consistent. The different prices, the videos on one site being great (ATK Girlfriends) while the other sites lag behind. It would be a huge site if they combined all these sites but if it brought consistency, it would be worth it.
Bottom Line:
I have been joining the ATK sites since 2006. The sites I receive with a membership are: ATK Galleria, ATK Girlfriends, ATK Premium, ATK Exotics, ATK Petites, ATK Natural and Hairy and ATK Archives. I’m not kidding when I say I used to join ATK Galleria, Premium and Petites for $24.95 each per month. These sites were considered close to the top of the Euro boom in porn from 2005-2010. I never understood what took the Euro porn of the spotlight but we are left with sites still trying to find the magic from 12-15 years ago.
Each of these sites other than Premium and Archives, are still worth joining … on their own. Premium used to be one of my favorite sites but it has had lapses in video updates that last a year or more. It has just dropped off a lot and it no longer has that premium feel to it. It used to be like a greatest hits site. You could find your favorite model and they would have 4-5 of that model’s best scenes and photosets. Archives is just what it says. It’s mostly older content that is still worth looking at if you’re newer to ATK. If you’ve been to these sites, the archive doesn’t really offer that much. I don’t really like Natural and Hairy site. That is natural and hairy in the UK, Europe, France and it includes hairy legs, hairy arms, hairy armpits, hairy faces even. If people think that’s wrong of me to dislike that then people haven’t figured out subjectiveness. I’m not into it. I like prissy, pretty women. I consider body hair (besides pubic) to be masculine.
The other sites: ATK Galleria is a buffet of the best teen amateur models ATK has. The only set niche they are playing to is age. The models are all young looking. Race, ethnicity, body hair, none of that matters. Look at it like an art gallery. You will see all kinds of niches explored. They will all be young. ATK Exotics is one that I should completely understand. I have loved exotic women all the way back to a high school girlfriend. I have a different definition and opinion of what constitutes exotic. Exotic to me is different than what women I saw in the 90s. I also see exotic as Asian, shadowy, darker complexion with blue or green eyes. I believe that would also include women from India. I think Exotics is a geographic word as well. If you knew girls from Hawaii, they didn’t seem exotic but on the other hand, there are the “plain” women that can be exotic based on they are mysterious to you. Their eyes draw you in. That is exotic to me. On ATK Exotics it’s mostly non-white women. I’m not going to tell them that’s wrong. I believe it’s subjective and can be based on the area you are from. The one choice I was not happy with was when ATK Exotic started classifying hairy women as exotic. That is the one negative to the site for me. What’s next? Overweight women? They’re different too. I do believe ATK Exotics tries hard to find Exotic models. It shows how a label can help and hurt a site. We all have opinions about what is exotic and what isn’t.
ATK Girlfriends is the real star of these sites for me. I have scored the site very high in the past and as a standalone site, I would score it over a 95. It’s POV, interviews, dinner/date, sex. My wife loves to see me watch the Girlfriends videos with her watching. It’s fun porn. The models seem so relaxed and off script. So many sites push the unscripted scenes. ATK Girlfriends does it better than any.
All of these sites have years of content. A decade or longer for several of the sites. It is the closest real negative I think you can run into. A month isn’t long enough. Even if you get the $49.95 price, which is the lowest I have seen it, that’s still a lot to pay every month. It’s why the consistency matters. I am going to score it higher than I did the last time but it’s because I know how to use the network now. There’s so much high quality here but if you only see a small portion of it, it’s going to waste. If I knew a quick fix answer, I would share it, but I don’t. Maybe offer long-term memberships with lower prices? It’s hard to complain about any of the content. Recommended but know what you’re getting into.
Thanks Loki, I have always liked the ATK sites, they were one of the first sites (Galleria) I remember joining, along with Karups PC. I did not realize how frustrating it was going to be bouncing from site to site. I wanted to bang my head on the monitor. I'm sure I missed content too.
Also can understand and agree about the natural and hairy site. On that part, I don't mind the pubic hair, I prefer it over clean shaven. I just don't care for the hairy underarms and legs. Even ATK Exotics has some models with the very hairy underarms. I can't say I have ever known a woman in real life that has hairy underarms or legs.
And from now on, I will go back to joining one ATK site at a time. That is just too much content.
Normally, I wouldn't join a site or network for $50. There's another that I keep almost joining, Killer Gram, it's a British site, they keep going up on their price. I think it was $39 last time I checked and Abby Winters is the other, also nearing $40 a month but because I was going to join ATK Exotics and ATK Petites, I didn't see the one-time join of the network as too much for one month. I definitely feel different about that now. I hope we're not heading towards high quality, unique sites jacking their prices up. Just checked and Killer Gram is down to $24.99 a month. I'm glad I mentioned that or I would have forgotten to check it.
I find the hair part unusual. I think everyone knows my favorite model is Eve Angel. She was never fully shaven and always had some hair.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- A network that is going to be very hard to review as a whole, massive network of young, teen, hairy, shaven and some just beautiful models.
- You get access to ATK Galleria, Premium, Exotics, Natural and Hairy, Petites and Archive. If you like them all you better set aside some time.
- I try to join sites through PU's links but I had a promo for ATK Network for $49. That's my max that I would pay for a site/network.
- This will be explained further, I am counting 10+ updates per day across the network.
- Download speeds are very good (between 80-90% of max)
- Navigation is not terrible, if you have been an ATK member before it will make the navigation better for you.
- ATK's photos are the focus for me. Their videos are okay to good but the photos are better.
- They have most mainstream niches covered on the network.
- Signup through CCBill
- Could be a lot better with some fixes. Even 15 or more points better!
Cons:
- I don't mean to offend anyone that likes hairy models but that hairy site is a waste for me.
- No access to Aunt Judy's or ATK Girlfriends. Maybe Aunt Judy's is understandable but why no ATK Girlfriends?
- Patience is a good thing. Time is too. You're going to need both to bounce back and forth between websites.
- The regular price $99.95 is way too much, $49.95 is better but I don't know that I will join again at that promo price either. I would say $34.95.
Bottom Line:
Maybe the most frustrating review I have posted ever. There's no way I was going to join ATK's network for $79 or $99. I had a promo they sent me about 6 months ago for $49. Since I hadn't joined Exotics, Premium, Petites or Galleria in nearly a year, I decided it would be worth joining the network to catch up on the content I've missed.
I considered Archives to be a site I wouldn't need to check since I have a lot of the older ATK content. I knew I wouldn't be downloading anything from Natural & Hairy. The first thing you will notice about the network is it's not a network. You are buying a membership to the six sites. You have to sign in on each. ATK is a massive site/network. Some of these sites have been around for as long as I've been buying internet porn.
I decided to look for a specific Eve Angel scene from ATK Premium. I first opened the "movies" tab. It shows Premium only having movies back to 2014. The Eve scene I was looking for was probably 2009. I clicked on the models list and there's Eve (Eva on here). There are 16 pages of her content. No dates. Two videos, two photosets per page. That's a lot of clicking. I bounced around from site to site having to sign in on each. I thought I would check Archives out, it says the current content in the archive is from 2001-2006. Then it shows newest updates in the Archive as 2019.
Stop it. This is not funny. This is a regularly priced $99 per month network!
I can fix it. Put all the content on one site. Call it Amateur Teen Kingdom! If you find a model you like, this is what you will have to do to find all of her content:
Find her on Galleria, download her content, login to Petites, find her in the model list, download her content, login to Archives, find her in the model list, download her content, login to Exotics, find her in the model list, download her content, login to Premium,find her in the model list, download her content. Yes, I know that's repetitive and redundant but when you do that for 10 models, you start to feel repetitive and redundant.
Put it all on one site and go with a $34.95 price. This reminds me very much of when the "All Only" network launched years ago with 5-6 premium sites in it for $34.95.
The content is good but trying to dig through 6 sites in 30 days? I would rather join one and have 30 days to go through it.
I don't think I realized that until halfway through my membership. I have downloaded all the Exotics content that I wanted/has been added since my last membership. I will be lucky to finish another site before the membership expires.
The ATK sites offer something rather unique these days. It's a professionally filmed amateur site. No, they're not all amateurs but when you see the models you will think it's from their amateur days. There's little to no glam here. Makeup is at a minimum. Premium, to the best of my knowledge, is the only site that offers "no implants". These sets will make your most favorite glamorous porn star look like the cute girl that just moved in next door to you. It's a major selling point. Their photos are much better than their videos. Premium has some good videos but overall, the ATK photos stand out.
The amount of updates is impressive. I'm just estimating at 10+ per day, across the network. Exotics alone has 3 to 4 updates per day as does Petites. And I get the part about Archives "updating" as they add old content but where is that old content? Is it being removed from the regular sites? If so, it shouldn't be an "update".
The video resolution on the newer scenes goes up to 4K. Photos are very good quality and downloadable.
I looked around for content from Fred the Photographer but don't see any new content filmed by him. He was always one of my favorites.
This is another thought about improving not just the ATK sites but any site that specializes in photos. Has there ever been a thought about combining all of a model's photosets into 1 zip? There are models on here with dozens of photosets at 10 - 50 MB. It takes 1 second to download those sets.
The frustration comes from knowing I would have been happier and it wouldn't have cost much more to join each site on a monthly membership. As it looks right now, I might get two of the sites caught up on my downloading. Those sites could have been joined for $17.95 each.
My preferred order of the ATK sites: Petites, Exotics, Premium, Galleria, Archive, Natural and Hairy.
Still don't get why Girlfriends isn't included as this is the ATK network and it's an ATK site. Seems like a missed opportunity to get ATK fans hooked on another site.
My score is leaving major room for improvement. Petites and Exotics could easily score 90 on their own. Maybe I will review one of those as a standalone and show how my frustration goes away when away from the six site package.
I would recommend any of the ATK sites if you're into the niche they cover. I just can't recommend this high-priced package of sites.
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