My understanding always was that it is fake. Sort of a humor type joke from them. If you have seen the Eva Angelina clip on FoC, the guy completely covers her face, chest and the floor with "cum". She is cracking up the whole time. I think it is more of an assisted masturbation site with very big dildos.
I'm not really into the cum swallowing, but it is mainly because of a few videos that I have watched that feature that guy Steve, older porn star and Max Hardcore. They kind of ruined it for me. There are exceptions, but most of the models do not look happy about swallowing. A big part of my turn on is seeing that the woman is really into what is going on. Once she frowns, it ruins the scene for me. The Steve guy I mentioned, he disgusts me, I saw one where he smacked Eva Angelina, then choked her. I also hear that the once legend Rocco is doing these same things in his latest videos.
Growing up in and around L.A. I saw way too many women forced to do things they didn't want, plus, with my job being in Psychology, I have to counsel many women who have been forced to do things as well.
Look at it this way, when was the last time you saw an established porn star swallow? You rarely do. Instead, it is the younger models who are trying to make a name for themselves. They are in that spot that if they say no, they are probably afraid they will lose any future job oppurtunities. The Eva Angelina one stood out to me because from everything I have seen of her she really loves sex and loves being cummed on. She even smiles during facials or body shots and laughs a little. But she did not look happy when she had to swallow because the guy was choking her. I have seen some though where the girl says she wants to swallow and looks to be truthful about it, those are a turn on. It is a few aging male pornstars that are ruining it. Just like everything else, a few bad apples ruin it.
As a big fan of Sandra Shine, I had always gotten her videos and pics from the Euro sites, Club Sandy, Pix and Videos, Xisty has some great SS content as does Babelicious. Now I see what at least doesn't look to be too new, of a site of her own. It looks like the last TBP fact update was in February of this year, from what I can tell the site is updating at least 1 video a week, probably 2-3 pic sets a week, that should put available videos up around 50 and pic sets over 100.
If you are a Sandra fan check out the preview on the site. It looks like she is going to do similar to Eve Angel, meaning, much better once on her own site. Eve's look changed when she started her own site and Sandra's look seems to change in the previews. Sandra is easily one of my favorites with a very curvy natural figure. I guess the price part threw me off since the first price is listed in Euros, and I live in America. It does say on TBP that ccbill handles the billing.
I will probably join it, but if anyone has tried it out let me know. Thanks
When you click on the join now or instant access, it will show only a $29.99 option, but if you look down the page you should see something that says, "Segpay our secondary billing" click it instead, it will open a new window that has the trial option available. For some reason, the trial isn't available from CC Bill on their site, but SegpayEU it is. Another thing to watch for, it is a 3 day trial, I'm not for sure how fast SegPay cancels their accounts when you cancel, but I know that Paycom has been known to take up to 5 days, which would give them enough time to charge you for the whole month.
Also, this site is available through maniacspass or smoochmyass.com, if you go through smoochmyass.com you get 60 some other sites as well, even on the trial, unless they have changed it. My wife was really into the skilful hands site, we joined it probably a year ago, but I had forgot about these until you posted this comment.
Hey Khan, I noticed that as well, but the site facts were updated in 2007, according to the review. It really looks odd, check out the review. Where it says, "videos" it says 320 videos, at the bottom in the "other" section it says picture galleries and over 300 videos. Then Maggie's review says, "No videos" as a con.
I would think that could cause some confusion. Especially when it says the site facts were updated just last month, 4-09-07. The thing is, I would say it is easy to go on the site a few times and miss the videos, I did. I just happened to look up and see the link to "videos".
The videos are of good quality, but they, the site, is saying their videos are exclusive. I don't believe that for one minute. They have an Adrianne Sage masturbation video that I have seen on New Sensations. I don't know if because they are owned by New Sensations, they are saying it is still exclusive if it appears on one of their other sites. They also have a Taylor Ann POV blowjob that I've seen on several of the New Sensations sites in the NS All Access network. Plus the split videos can get annoying. One that I was going to download had 7 parts to it. I just skipped it.
My fascination with Eve Angel was what broke me down to try it out, I had noticed she was on their main page. I did download her one video on the site in 4 parts, it is good quality, and I understand why they split them, but other sites like Club Sandy and Pix and Videos split them, then give you the option to download the whole file as one.
There are videos, but it is a hassle to find what you are looking for. I had noticed that TBP said no videos, but it is right on the first page of the members section, "videos" up at the top of it. I don't know if they just missed it, because I did at first. I kept thinking if I clicked on the model it would bring up videos too. The videos categories are out of whack as well. The one Eve Angel video is a 4 way lesbian movie, it shows up in the blowjob category, the solo category and the Big Movie category. There is no order to the videos either, just 30 or so pages of thumbnails showing each one.
Veronica has no movies, but has 33 picture sets and Olivia de Treville has 14 picture sets, but no videos.
From what I can see a lot of the videos are of New Sensations biggest stars, Adrienne Sage, I even saw Taylor Ann, who I know is not Hungarian. Overall, it looks like if someone spent maybe a week on the site working on it, they could make it a decent join, especially for picture fans. They have around 50 sets of Anetta Keys, no videos though. They have pictures of her that I have never seen, where she had braids when she first started porn. It is kind of like finding an uncle's old magazine stash ha ha.
Maybe I missed something, but while browsing Teen Dreams in what is my first month back on the site since the problems they had. I noticed "Viv Thomas" over at the side in a link. I'm a huge Viv Thomas fan, so I clicked on it, and, it looks like teendreams now has what looks to be all of his content combined with teendreams. I just paid $30 a month for Viv's video site just a few months ago and loved it. Now for $20, I am getting it, his photo sets AND teendreams? I rated Viv very highly just for his video site. I am shocked, and all I can say is that this is an incredible deal for $20. I don't know why it isn't being advertised more, and that is the reason that I am posting this, to let everyone know.
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This might be #1 on my list of pet peeves in porn. Especially when most of the sites use alphabetical order listings, at least use the same first letter of the first name. Some examples.
Eve Angel, at worst on other sites she is known as Eva, which Eva is her real name. She has some early career movies as Severine and I think one or two as Katie, but those are DVD's not sites.
Then there is Veronica, the beautiful blonde Euro star, I've seen her use a few other names, but each start with a V as well.
Then you have these messes. Zafira is listed a Brinette or something like that on teen dreams. Sandra Shine is listed by a way off name. I have noticed teen dreams probably has the biggest amount of different names stars than any site.
In a review I did of xisty, the webmaster replied and told me that they have no control over this. It all depends on what name the woman uses with them. It is odd though, you rarely see any of the American models by different names.
Hey Crazy8, I will be rejoining the first week of June. There was several sites I wanted to check out, and have learned a lesson about getting too many sites at one time.
When I mentioned the girls talking, I've seen Eve talk in older videos. You can tell she has trouble, but the ones where the cameraman was respectful and nice, she would smile a lot while talking and it gave her an innocent look or sound to her voice. The same with the ones I have seen of Mia Stone talking.
A bad example of talking to the models would be a site about an apartment, I won't use the full name of it, but the guy was annoying. He was asking Eve on it, "What is your favorite cartoon?" It was too much you know? I wondered if he did it because she wasn't willing to do hardcore, it was like he was badgering her. Even a "Hi, my name is (model's name) I hope you enjoy" would be a nice touch.
Most of the Euro girls seem nicer than the American models, not for sure on that, but I speak as an American who grew up in Los Angeles, where women with attitudes was the norm. I hope everything works out with Eve being on your site. I'm running out of new material of her outside of her personal site.
I did stop by your site today after work and love the new look of it! I'm also seeing some models that have been added since I was a member. I don't remember seeing Simi, though I was a member in March/April. I still don't know what you all have done with Britney. I picked up some clips and pics of her from another site. She looks way better on xisty and seems to be enjoying herself more on your site.
I will definitely be doing a follow-up/edit of my review of your site in early June. Just the presentation change in the preview has caught my eye, great colors and backgrounds. It looks even more professional now. I like sites that give you at least a classy feel to them. You all will be a top 5 site if you keep this high quality up. I will send a ticket in on your site when I re-join. Keep up the good work.
Sounds you like found those famous "bubble girls" Aria clips. I heard they are on celebrity movie archive. The full clip from bubble girls has Aria shaving herself first, then fisting, then the dildo stuck to a table, then probably the most hardcore solo I have seen of her with a dildo while sitting on a big chair, she really gets into this one. Then it has a little more tame masturbation in the bath and a peeing segment.
I've seen I think 3 of her with other women in what I would call, "full sex" with each other, not just kissing and posing together. Outside of those, I am almost positive she hasn't done more. I agree about the definition of hardcore, it is too hard to keep up with. I've heard a lot of newer porn fans say that hardcore requires a cumshot. I considered Aria's bubble girls video to be hardcore, she obviously orgasms in two of them.
On a couple of side notes, I went to the same high school that she did in California, but I had graduated 2 years before she started high school. The people that I know that knew her in high school say the same thing her site says about her, "Very intelligent, sweet, shy" what gets me is of all the damn models on the internet she would have to be the shy and sweet one!
On a more interesting side note, she has officially divorced her husband the guitar player in Marilyn Manson. If I'm not mistaken that was her 2nd marriage. Maybe this could mean more hardcorish videos and pictures?
I wish I had seen this earlier or read all of the TBP review. I didn't find out the hard way, but was reading a few other reviews after joining All Sites Access, and noticed the DL Limit. What I found almost humorous is that they finally started using higher resolution vids only to not raise the DL limit, so those bigger vids just eat your limit up faster.
You are probably complaining to the wrong people. I would think the choice is made by the female. That is why the original facials in movies were called, "Money Shots" if they took the shot to the face, they made more money.
You would probably be better off joining a site like videobox or any of the video sites that let you see pics of the scene, so you could see where the cumshot is going to be, face or body.
By the way, I actually agree with you. I don't really like facials either. I do know that there have been many models who refuse to do facials, believe Tera Patrick used to refuse them.
Also, look into the dvd sites because porn that is a little older, didn't have many facials in it. A lot of those sites carry older "classics" that had some really beautiful women in them.
Thanks for this heads up on this one. Wicked Pictures has been on my list of sites that I will join as soon as they drop their DRM and allow us to download their movies. When I first seen this Wicked Scenes, I thought maybe it was a site that was allowing downloads of each scene from their movies. They have many top models in clips I haven't seen, especially Eva Angelina. Here is hoping they decide to let us download in the future.
Denner, I just noticed where you talk about the speed problems on Pix and Video, I also have a speed problem on there with a 10 M connection. Mine will open, then after loading about half of the models on that page, just slow down to dial-up speed, causing many of the models pictures to be replaced with the little dreaded red x in the corner. I don't have as much of a problem with it on Club Sandy, though it also does it a little. I've not noticed their other sites that come with pixandvideo having as much slowdown on them.
I just rejoined a few weeks ago, and did not realize they are now giving 10 extra bonus sites, which I didn't find much in them that interested me, but I'm wondering if they are getting too much content going at the same time. Good review, there are very few multi-model sites that have the quality and quanity that P&V has.
Thanks to the reviews from Denner and Turismo, those reviews were my first introduction to this site. I just joined yesterday so I haven't gotten enough time on the site to write a full review, but I will say that Anjali Kari is one incredibly beautiful woman and from what I can see there are over 100 scenes of her on here!
I will admit when I first seen the name, Killer Gram, I thought it was an older or mature site. So far all I have seen is incredible looking women. I didn't realize that I had seen some of the models before, until joining. I never knew them by their names. I have downloaded a few clips and this is definitely a site packed with very hardcore movies.
I will have a review in a few weeks, as of right now it looks to be in my top 5 or top 10. There are plenty of Indian girls as well between Anjali's section/site and another that has other Indian models. I also like the very clean look of the site itself. Good stuff so far, and I don't see that changing over the next few weeks. One last thing, I also haven't seen any of these clips anywhere, it may not be exclusive, but it has been all new to me so far.
I have posted about how much I like the General Entertainment sites, Eve Angel, Mya Diamond and Lora Craft. With the one main problem with any of the three being that each one will go down 1-2 days per month on average. I had wondered if it was maybe a server problem they have or something technical of that sort. I recently noticed that only3x.com site is listed in Mya, Eve and Lora's site as a partner site, but it isn't under the General Entertainment name. Also Club Maria Belucci is in with only3x and listed as a partner to those 3. Maybe this is the beginning of a family of sites like 21st Sextury?
Well now Panther you can't put a gauge on a site that has been up for over 2 years based on just one month. I've been a member for a 3 month stretch last March/April/May on Eve's site, then joined it again in September 2006 and haven't cancelled since. It also depends on when you were a member, there was a time this past November/December that Eve had posted that she was going to a Sex Expo to accept an award along with Viv Thomas. Those few months did have some problems. Including the most common, updates posting, but you couldn't download them. Then there was a month, believe November 2006 where the updates were only coming once every 7-10 days, instead of daily and would come in 7-10 update bunch. I'm not for sure who does her updating, but I noticed that even Pics and Video missed an update yesterday. As long as customer service lets me know, "We will be back up in a day or so" I'm not too concerned.
In 2007, when Eve's site goes down, so does Mya's and Balkan Amateurs and on the most recent one also Lora Craft's was down, all four at the same time. I've been a member this year on Eve's, Mya's and Lora's (since they opened it) and the other two, Eve's the whole year and Mya's all but one month. Also what could make a difference on the interaction you are seeing with Eve on the site could have been the month you were a member. I don't think the comment section was put on Eve's site until this year. She replies to most and if not, she will a month or two after they have been posted. I have left 4 comments, she has responded to each one.
I like to talk about Eve and Mya's sites together since both are so similar. I don't know if I maybe worded one part wrong, when I mentioned personality. I didn't mean the site's personality, but was talking about the way I like how Eve smiles and laughs in some videos. The current problem that has come up on the sites has happened 2 times in the last 6 or 7 weeks. It lasts 1 day. The main page takes a good 30 seconds to open. If you do the tour, it opens right up, as does the payment page, but if you login, the screen goes blank.
This is fixed by the next day and really, I have all of the archives, so I am only downloading the one new update each day, so I don't even really notice when it happens. If you haven't been on it lately, you should try it out again. I still think the best value in porn is the combination of Eve and Mya's sites for $30. Have you seen the behind the scenes sets? Eve really does do most of the picture taking when it is a "friend". It is kind of funny to see the pictures since someone else is taking a picture of Eve taking a picture of another model.
Denner, hadn't noticed your reply until now. That is strange, the yellow thing wasn't flashing at the top of the screen. I have been a big fan of Mya's site. I still am NOT that big of a fan of Mya herself. I like women who smile more, laugh some, like Eve is. Mya does have a great body though. Now, if they moved Eve's friends to Mya's site and Mya's friends to Eve's site. Eve's site would have a 99 from me. Plus, I really like the General Entertainment sites, I like sites that let me use a download manager for one thing. Thanks for the reply!
Is that Tiffany Taylor on there? That site looks interesting. I used to live on the east coast and in the summer, there were these groups that would wear armor, and simulate the medieval times. I like the dresses the women wear, makes it look like work just to get one of those off!
Do they have any chasity belts, things like that? Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
It depends on which pay option you pick. Regular price for the ability to download DVD resolution is $17.99, you can get it by going through TBP for $14.99, the $9.99 doesn't give you DVD resolution option to download.
The last one I downloaded was "Bait #4" the screen resolution on it using the DVD option is 640x480. Which is pretty good, not bad, but not great. From what I have noticed, the age of the movie no longer matters as long as you pay the $14.99 for the DVD resolution, I may be wrong on that, but all of those DVD resolution clips seem to be about the same size (in the 500 meg range.)
I would like to see them bump the quality up some, but considering the low price and amount of content they have, 640x480 will do. Hope that helped.
I've never seen a cam show. I think I visited that cam network one time where all the model does is tease you with a bunch of guys typing in, "Show your boobs!" over and over. Then she replies, "Go private with me and I will" Not really for me. Though I would pay $30 a month to make my wife be quiet! J/K
Thanks King, It shows maybe 9 sets with a preview of each, but that price seems steep for a new site $24.99. I had seen a video clip with her and several other Euro models where they were celebrating one of the girls birthday. It was a real party, not one of those everybody just happens to be naked party. They were all dressed and at a restaurant. The cameraman asks Anette how old she is. She says, "23" she looks away and smiles, then says, "Um 26" she seemed to speak better English than most of them did.
There also isn't a trial option to see what all the site has. I guess I will wait a little longer and see how much it updates. I keep hoping for a tight white button-up shirt, black skirt and glasses set with her. I wonder if Shap would answer an email?
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