They removed it awhile back. I went to join the trial not long after that review to get the rest of the Skillful Hands content, but it was gone and even worse, they've changed the Skillful Hands site. It used to be exclusive content, now they just add scenes from DVDs that are available at any DVD site.
One time, first site I ever joined and I can't even remember the name of it. It was a solo model site that had this really cute, spiral curl hair model, blondish brown hair. It wasn't Next Door Nikki though. I am trying to think of her name. Anyway, it said, "See it all inside". I paid the $30 and got inside and there was no nudity, just a bunch of tease pictures. I was thinking she had "Little" in front of her name, but that was back in 2002-03, I have seen the site since then and remember that it was grouped in a network now. Since then, I want to see at least some nudity on the tour if I have never joined the site. Next Door Nikki has called upon me many times on those TGP sites, but I will not pay to be teased! I have cute college girl neighbors for that!
I have been using Tiava for years, and it is my favorite. I think the first I ever used was Elephant List and seems that was while surfing the web with a Sega Dreamcast, so that is pretty old school! Most TGP sites that I see now though, are like the ones from back then. Not maintained well, you click a link and have no idea where it is going to take you.
Tiava's is better though, it has the search engine built in and you can even search by site name and even dig deeper with model name. An example, awhile back, I didn't know if Nubiles had Eve Angel content. I first searched for Nubiles.net and probably 1,000 results came up. I then added "Eve" to the search and it brought up the samples they had of Eve from Nubiles. Of course, it doesn't always work unless the site submits content to Tiava.
You can also search for pictures, movies or both and she has more niches than any TGP I have seen.
Good review, I'm shocked about the price raise though. The site's name is what it is for the price it used to cost $8.99, and even worse, if you look in their "Reviews of 899" and I quote from one of the reviews that they list right there for all to see, "Who couldn't afford $8.99 a month." Not for sure if they even realize that is still there on their site. Oh and look at #1 in their FAQ, the question is, "What do I get for $8.99" The last line of their answer is, "Download our movies and keep them forever all for $8.99"
Depending on how much Eve Angel content you have, Teen Dreams also has several sites from her own site that they list as exclusive! Sadly, her site also lists them as exclusive. One of the top of my head is the one in a kitchen, it is on both sites as exclusive and some of the Eve videos are also from the official Eve Angel site.
I mention this just on the heels of another member here PinkPanther, telling me that Teen Dreams has content of a model named Sara on Teen Dreams, but listed as Sasha on Babelicious and Babelicious, lists her content as exclusive to their site, but it is the same content that Teen Dreams has. It gets confusing to say the least. One thing I have noticed a lot of sites doing is the "exclusive to this site's network", Teen Dreams has a Teen Dreams network that says it is exclusive content of 10 or 11 models, but nearly all of the content comes from Teen Dreams. Confusing indeed, not really drama queening at all, I hate joining sites that make me think I am getting something new only to realize I have it from another site.
I hear you Khan, I like to think I understand computers pretty good, but I like to think I understand women pretty good too!
That will be fine to remove the comment, and I would appreciate it. I am glad to see the discount price, VB has been one of my most joined sites over the years for the great value. It was their discount and the discount to Eve Angel's site (when it was running strong) that had me coming to TBP before PU was started.
Hey Khan, I ran CCleaner and was still seeing a completely different page that had much higher prices. I reset my connection to the cable modem, went back and now I am seeing the special price of $14.95, I really don't know what caused the other page with the higher prices to show up. Should I just edit the comment or can you remove it? Whichever would be easier for you all.
But I am seeing the special price again and do apologize for the error on my part.
Thanks PinkPanther, I thought I had seen her before, but couldn't figure out where. I will have to join Teen Dreams soon, some of that content that shows in the preview of Teen Dreams on her main page is the same content on Babelicious, I think. But there is a lot more on Teen Dreams.
I agree, Teen Dreams has some of the worst aliases for the models. I remember when I first joined it and couldn't find Sandra Shine. I had no idea she had been listed as Judit. Maybe the worst of all, one of the few other newer models that I really like is Black Angelica and she is listed as Nicky. I've never seen her listed as anything different than either Black Angelica or Angelica except the K spelling Angelika, how they get Nicky is beyond me! On the good side, I hadn't been on TD in nearly 6 months and looks like they are getting some interesting new models including this one Satin that I see in the updates.
The High DL is HD on the newer videos. You can also click "Pussies" to see the models in alphabetical order but the only way to follow the updates is by using the calender.
I think my forum post which I was about to reply on, it didn't completely come across the way I meant for it to. You can check that reply out and see what I mean.
I wanted to say that Babelicious is not slowing down at all. The newest model is this British model named Sasha. I first thought Sasha Grey, but she is from California. This Sasha has an incredibly seductive British accent and is quite dirty with that accent. She looks all of 20 at the most. I'm wondering if anyone knows anywhere else that has content of her? If you don't know who I am talking about their preview has a video preview of her on the main page. She talks in it so you can check out that accent too. Very pretty girl with a nice body, especially the lower half. I wouldn't want to see any hardcore b/g of her, just wondering if there is any other solo content since a big part of the charm was hearing her talk dirty.
I don't think I had really seen much porn from the British girls before, note to self, new fetish, British accent.
When I read the question my first thought was, "badandy400 has to be the one that asked this" ha ha!
I personally don't download everything. I have a list of models that I like and am pretty damn snobby about this list! I only download content from these models to keep. I do occasionally stray from the list to look at some new models, but I rarely find a new model that I want to collect. There are exceptions, the little British model Sasha on Babelicious is really close to jumping on the list. Not for sure if it is her petite but curvy body or her dirty British mouth, but I wasn't expecting either from her from her innocent looking profile picture. Then I watch a video and she is making Eddie Murphy blush! You know a girl is a good solo performer when she says, "You want me to cum for you again?" and precedes to nearly tear her innards out doing it. Gives a whole new meaning to us American PUs with the saying "The British are coming"!
I will also keep a folder just for the content that I am curious about and for DVDs that I download from the DVD sites. I've always liked the Combat Zone videos and will usually download the full DVD of those and keep them. A few more hardcore stars that I usually keep would be Tiffany Taylor and Eva Angelina. But all in all, it mostly all about those 10-12 models on the list. I'm telling you all, check out little Sasha on the Babelicious preview, now does she look anything but innocent? Watch one of her videos sometime, I was ready to drink her bath water!
I will give you this much, there does seem to be some site sharing content between the DDF sites and I don't understand why they are doing that either.
Things I don't agree with at all.
Anyone can take a look at their site right now and see 30 new updates since January with 40 or so reloaded updates that are remastered and of a much higher quality, but you say, "I was a member for 3 months and only saw an increase in the amount of archive material being re-posted."
As much as you don't think that is fair that they do remaster and re-release content, they are not hiding it from anyone. You can easily see from the cover of each set if it is reloaded and can see that in their preview before joining. And if the original was 512 high end and in parts and the new is 1280 high end, and in full scenes, it is new in that sense.
I was one of the first ones to complain about the archive removal in January, but I wouldn't say they hid it or covered up. I have an email from them that explains in full that they removed the archive and it came with a link where I could still access the archive.
Where your review jumped out at me was when you said, "I have been a member of their main competitor site and they showed everyone's comments and posted replys to most of them." Who is their main competitor? I noticed that the two family of sites that I generally consider the top two in Euro porn, 1byday/DDF and Pix and Video/21st Sextury BOTH received a bad review and a bad comment from you. It just made me wonder with so many untruthful parts in both if maybe you had a connection to the main competitors site that you mentioned.
I guess it also looked strange to see a complaint and con, and would assume a removal of points for them not responding to requests for different settings. I didn't even know 1byday offers members the chance to pick the setting. Even more so, I don't even know what a "train carriage" is, a bakery and shop, would sound like settings from a niche/fetish site.
Again, I am sorry if I am wrong, but I know for a fact that most of the things you say here are not true and the things you say in your comment about Pix and Video's site isn't true either, and I know that I can't be wrong about those parts that aren't true. Between the two, I felt like I had no choice but to change my trust vote from yes to no. I can deal with strange and differing opinions, but not the untruthful parts.
Disagree with this, about as much as possible. The first part I disagree with is when you joined both P&V and Club Sandy, it was $44.95 the first month, $39.95 thereafter, not $30 thereafter, that wouldn't even start to make any sense. Each site is $30 separately, so under the recurring rate you are claiming, you can pay $15 extra one time and get both sites for $30 every month thereafter.
Second disagreement is that the bonus sites "all of their content" comes from P&V and Club Sandy. As a member in the 21st Sextury Network through Zoliboy.com, I am getting no less than 6 sites that have content that was never on P&V or Club Sandy.
The price claim can be verified by looking at Sweet Sophie Moone's site that still offers the combo packages of two sites for $44.95 and $39.95 thereafter. The content claims and my knowledge of the content and what has moved and what hasn't is backed up by two 6 month memberships to the Club Sandy and P&V combo over the last two years. I had the archived content and it is not the same content on all of the bonus sites. I'm a known obsessed with Eve Angel content fan, and could go as far as digging her content from these sites up on my hard drive and telling you the exact numbers of exclusive shoots to each site.
Personally, after exploring the bonus sites I would receive, I joined through Zoliboy as it had all of the bonus sites I wanted instantly, and would go as far as saying the package is the best value on the internet. Also, those bonus sites are updating with new content weekly that is in HD format, so how if those are recycled from the other sites are they doing that? Sorry man, but after reading your completely away from the truth review of 1byday and now this completely away from the truth comment, I felt I should post this and a reply to the 1byday comment to explain why I am changing my trust vote from yes to no. These things just aren't true, just like some of the things in the 1byday review aren't true either. I can't help but question your intentions seeing that you went after the top two Euro sites with untruthful posts.
No problem, glad to have helped, I ran into the same problem, even using WMP 11 with a lot of the MP4 video files that are showing up on ALS Scan and the VLC plays those too.
I had seen where Sophie retired too, the good thing for me is that I had an external hard drive that crashed in December and lost all of my content from her site and zoli's site, so you can imagine the great deal this becomes for me. I've joined both several times at full price over the years. I almost went with joining playful hands and getting its bonus sites, but it didn't come with lezbo honeys or dirty 101 or zoli's content, but by joining through zoli for the same price, I get both of those and playful hands and zoli. Not positive but Playful Hands seems to have some of the new Club Sandy updates on it, including the Eve Angel in genie outfit one. I believe 21st Sextury just pushed themselves up very high especially during this times are hard economy.
Hey Tom, if you don't want to risk upgrading to the new WMP, check out VLC's video player. It will play all videos from Sapphic Erotica and doesn't need any codec alterations that I know of, it also uses much less system resources than WMP and probably is the most flexible and easy to use media player on the internet.
Zoli is one of the few extreme fetish sites that I fool with joining, though I don't care for the new content, the old content isn't near as extreme and has some funny shoots, sexy ones too with some of Europe's top models. I couldn't help but laugh when joining and noticed the opening page has Zoli sitting beside of model, laughing and her head covered with a bag, kind of made me wonder if he read the comment about covering the newer models faces on his site? The biggest reason that I joined through Zoli was to get the 21st Sextury Network sites. Of those sites, I have been a regular member on Club Sandy, Pix and Video and Sweet Sophie Moone, but not many of the others.
For my $29.95 price I received instant access to these that I had been wanting to join Playful Hands, Open Air Pleasures, Flexy Pussy, Footsie Babes, Lezbo Honeys, Dirty 101 and Horny Euro Sluts. And that is instant access, not waiting until next month, those and about 25 other sites came with Zoli's site. That is a great deal, oh and it also comes with full instant access to Sweet Sophie Moone too. I really like how 21st Sextury has put the extra time in their sites now to show exactly which sites you get instantly, as I spent about 25 minutes going through them until I found the one that offered the most I was interested in joining, mainly and admittedly for Eve Angel and Aneta Keys content, both have a ton of content on these instant access sites.
Good poll Drooler, this came up awhile back in an email discussion with Nick of Babelicious. The reason being, at that time, there wasn't anyway to view the models except by ranking. I had missed several models that for some reason were rated very low. They did add the alphabetical search feature, but the model ratings do seem to be a bit odd to me in variance from site to site. A few months ago, I was on Xisty and Babelicious and was comparing the rankings. Since both sites have very similar model selection. Eve Angel was #1 on xisty but only #35 at Babelicious. Sandra Shine was #6 at Babelicious but only #44 at Xisty.
What I think happens, first of all I find it disturbing that I'm making theories about porn, but anyway, I think there are some members that go from say babelicious to xisty, where there is licensed content on both and they get mad that they already have the non-exclusive sets and give those low scores.
I also think videos of models that don't go beyond the tease step bring their rating down too.
I always think the comments are funny. I rarely get beyond 2 without seeing, "Wish she would do anal!" and you know that member is hitting the lower score everytime a non-anal scene is posted.
I happen to be a member right now and checked it out. Using Free Download Manager, as soon as I click "Ok" it stops, doesn't even start to download. This included with username and password stored in DL manager. On the other hand, I tried it with just the built-in standard DL manager in Firefox and had 8 videos downloading at one time. One thing of note that I noticed is that when you first sign in and click to download your first video of that session, it asks again for your login and password. That could be what is tripping the DL manager up. But you can download multiple files and with the size of the files, if you had 8 going, it would take awhile. The site also doesn't have a huge collection, what is there, is very good though.
The only thing I disagree with this is like with the site I listed above Eve Angel. With 1300 sets between pictures and videos, logically, most sites can't reach that amount of content in even 3 years with daily updates. If a site updates daily for 3 straight years, you have 365 days in a year x 3 years, would be 1,095 sets, while her site has around 1,300 sets. All the update really is, is an addition to the quantity of the site and amount of material available to the members. I could even use her site as an example of the bad side of needing daily updates. The webmaster of Eve Angel has removed the last year of old content and releases a set of it each day as "new" content, even though it was on the site for 2-3 years before the recycling started. Where the new members get screwed is if they just left the old content alone, there would actually be more content to download with the site not making daily updates. It looks like they have about 40 sets down right now that have been available on the site before and will release them over the next 40 days.
If they weren't trying to reach the "daily updated" status, there would be 40 more sets there for new members to download today. So there can be a bad side to daily updated as well since new members don't know if the content released in daily updates really is new or not.
I marked yes since one of my highest rated sites is no longer updating with new material, just recycled material, Eve Angel. As a solo site, the site still has more content than nearly all solo sites with around 800 pic sets and nearly 500 videos. The reduced price of $15 makes it even better. I still never figured out why the webmaster of her site is trying to be deceptive by removing old material and then releasing it is "new" updates. Eve is a very noticeable maturing model. The content he is putting up as new now is from 4-5 years ago when she looked like a very innocent teen model, the "older" content he has up from 2007 is really the newest content they have of her. So it goes from 2007 content, she was about 25-26 in that content to 2008-2009 updates that she is 20-21 in.
The site still, especially for fans of Eve and that $15 price is one of porn's best buys, with or without updates. You could join for a month and download 15 videos 640 high end, 2000 bitrate, and 20 picture sets 2000+ high end zipped per day for a month and barely have all the content.
Here are some numbers. I did a search for "videos" and "ass fingering" and found 92 scenes. It shows 45 scenes for "ass toys" and on just toy scenes there are 307 scenes with toys which would be a little less than half of the scenes they have. If you noticed in the review the search isn't the most accurate. The numbers could be off some, they don't always list scenes under the right category. Most of the models in the videos are Euro models. I would go as far as saying the American models at most make up 15% of the models and that might be pushing it. You almost get an amateur feel to the models. As much Euro porn as I have downloaded, I only recognize maybe 1/3 of the models.
Most of the big Euro stars are on there too, one problem that I think new members will have is with the name system. For example Eve Angel who rarely but sometimes goes by Severine or Katie is known as Daphne on Sapphic Erotica. Brigette/Britney Hunter is Brooke. There are probably a dozen or so of these bigger stars that go by a name that is only used on Sapphic Erotica and their sister sites. The good thing, the model index has a decent sized thumbnail of every model so you can scan those in an hour or so and find the ones you're looking for.
Just found out, this is the first time I've seen this
I went to cancel my membership at Give Me Pink, it still has 10 days left on the account, but I like to cancel ahead of time. When you go to cancel it offers to transfer your remaining days to one of the other DEV sites, Prime Cups, All Internal etc...
I haven't tried it so I don't know if you could keep doing this throughout the membership, maybe a week at a time on each of their four sites, but I do really like this option and hope other sites will consider doing this in the future.
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