This is one of those learn from my mistake posts. Bang Bros are now offering more than 10 different addon packs, but you can only add them for the special prices once you're inside the members area of Bang Bros. Their biller, while not real well known, has never given me a problem and the biller itself replies to any problems with 24 hours from my experience. I had signed up for Bang Bros then added the Super Pack. When I went to cancel, I canceled "Bang Bros" from the support page. That didn't fully work. It canceled the Super Pack, but not the Bang Bros membership. After I went back and looked, after an email to their biller, there was a second membership listed on my account, which was Bang Bros itself. I hadn't canceled it. They could do better with this by listing the Super Pack as Super Pack and not Bang Bros, but I could have clicked the drop down box to see two accounts too.
So if you add anything besides Bang Bros, be sure when canceling to use the drop down menu to see the other accounts so you can cancel them too. In a way, I felt like this is misleading, but in another way, I can see how maybe someone would just want to cancel the addons, but keep Bang Bros, so it's iffy as to how you take this practice.
Can't say I haven't had one or a couple before, but I don't have one now or intend on getting one in the future. I do collect knives and swords though, mostly from the Far Eastern cultures. As for defense, I keep a basket with baseballs in it and dare anyone to try and dodge them!
I really would recommend this one, ATK Petites, the most for a new member to the ATK sites. ATK Exotics and ATK Hairy are very niche dominated. That leaves Petites, Premium and Galleria. Premium used to be their most balanced site since they had models from all niches. Now, Petites does that, including having some of Premium's content and having its own exclusive content. Galleria is the biggest of the sites and the oldest. I think they have over 2,500 models, but Petites has some of its content too. One exception that I think you like is Tanner Mayes. I don't remember if Petites had her or not, but Galleria has 30 photo sets and 6 videos of her, if she would be a deal breaker for you, then Galleria might be the better choice, but if not, then Petites will give you the broadest view of the ATK sites. One good thing, once you've been a member of any of their sites you start getting the $19.95 promo emails.
On all the ATK sites they have a DVD link in the navigation menu. This takes you to a DVD store that shows up in my Firefox tab as "Kick Ass DVDs" These DVDs can be bought for $29.99 and also have a VOD option. I found a few of the DVDs that had stars on them that are also on ATK Petites and can say with pretty high confidence that the scenes on the site with a regular membership are not the ones on these DVDs. One model that I checked both DVDs and the site for is the little Latin/Asian Kat since she has content on their DVDs and on the site, the videos in the site membership of Kat are not the scenes they have of her from the DVDs.
The best way to explain the models on the ATK sites is to say it's a lot like FTV's models. You will find some mainstream stars (in 2012), but the content will be older, from the earlier part of their careers. There are some U.S. stars like Jenaveve Jolie (very early in her career), Kat that I mentioned earlier, Amia Miley/Moretti, Jana Jordan, Jayme Langford are some examples that come right to my mind since I downloaded those and some have a ton of content. Both Jayme and Jana have over 100 combined photo/video sets each.
While looking through the DVDs, I just happened to have a banner ad for kickass (dot) com. And it took me to a Kickass Pictures site that looks similar to Wicked Pictures. It looks like they have around 1,600 scenes from the Kickass studio on it and the preview does let you see everything they have so you could check that out. Doing a PU search it is listed as Kick Ass Pass on here. Looks like a good site from what I can see, but also looks like a once $15 discounted price was changed to $30 price.
Last, most of the models are not going to be known by name. For every Jana Jordan there's a dozen unknowns. Hope that helps or at least doesn't confuse lol
I noticed in my confirmation for subscription email that this was at the bottom, "As a special THANK YOU for joining, we want to give you something FREE! No catch, no strings, no additional charges whatsoever. 110% FREE for you to try." I didn't put the rest since it has a code in it and link. It's for a free account on ATK Movies. I thought I would give it a shot. Filled out the email info, created a username and password, never received the email it said I needed to click on a link from. I would guess from the wording that the link takes you to a screen where you can put in your free access code that came with the confirmation email. I've checked my inbox, my spam box, but have nothing about it.
The other problem is one that other members have mentioned, the site is glitchy. I would estimate at least 40 models cannot be clicked on. Their thumbnail picture is missing, as is the line under their name which you can usually alternately click on.
I'm posting this part because it works for me. Some of the models that weren't clickable have large collections, including one that has 20+ photo sets.
In Firefox, if the thumbnail is not there, you cannot click the model or get to her content.
In the newest version of Internet Explorer, the thumbnails are still missing on some, but you can click on them and get their content.
One last part, continuing on my previous comment, the exclusivity is being pushed. I had first noticed the ATK Exotics sets showing up on ATK Petites, I can tell you they also have some ATK Galleria sets and ATK Premium sets here on ATK Petites.
The current poll question piqued my interest in Wicked Pictures again since I keep putting a membership off because of the lack of a preview with a full model list. The new preview is actually worse than the old one. I'm under the assumption that these mobile sites are the same as the full sites just made to be viewed on a phone or tablet. When I went to Wicked Pictures Mobile they have a full model list. I only needed to go so far to see 11 scenes of April Flowers, who is easily one of my all-time top 5 stars.
So I will post this here for now in case anyone else is looking for a model list for Wicked Pictures full site. I can't guarantee it's the same, but the other mobile sites are the same as the full sites as far I know. Give me a week or two and I will get a review or comment up to tell whether this list on Wicked Pictures Mobile is the same as the Wicked Pictures website.
I'm kind of surprised that I picked this but poor preview. I have said I'm going to join Wicked Pictures for over a year now, but still haven't because of the lack of a full model list in their preview and now their price went up so they fell another few spots for me. I can see how much the poor preview hurts based on I would still join with the higher price if they let me see all the models they have. I also learned over the last year to watch for wording in previews, especially of solo sites, like "hundreds of photos" instead of "hundreds of photo sets".
I'll add another possible answer that I have been using, "No facts info on TBP". I always check TBP on sites I haven't joined before. I ran into two different issues with this one. One site that had removed a lot of their content in comparison to the numbers they had when TBP visited it. One site that had no TBP facts that ended up having no zips,and no video downloads.
I enjoyed a membership at this site more than I thought I would. Similar to how I also enjoy Kink's Live Ultimate Surrender matches. I know it would knock the price up, but I think they should have a fully live site with each of their niches being covered on it. I would probably look for the lifetime membership option!
One thing you may not know being from Canada. Folsom Street Fair is a very liberal setting, nudity is allowed. From what I know from living in California, nudity is legal in the state, even in public. It's the lewd acts while being nude that are illegal. San Francisco though is probably one of the most tolerant cities in the United States, I would only rate Los Angeles and Miami above it. Not at all knocking Kink for shooting at a commonly nude fair, but thought you might find that interesting. It's a fair that leans very heavily on BDSM themes and though a few kids have been seen at the fair, it is 18 and over admittance.
I've tried several of Kink's site recently and this one runs neck and neck with Ultimate Surrender as my favorite.
I was going to join based mostly on the inclusion of Eve Angel Official to get the 30-40 updates from it that I don't have, but before joining, I see this contradiction on the "sites" area in the preview.
At the top of the page, "NEW! We added a new website to the network pass in December 2011 - EVEANGEL OFFICIAL"
On down the page, it says, "(note: Eve Angel Official is not part of the DDFProd Network)"
I may be being overly cautious since the first one says "NEW" but it looks like if you're going to edit in the new addition of a site, you would take the time to remove the note on down the page that contradicts it. I'll never understand these sites that spend all the money they do in programming and leave something this contradictory and basic on a site.
Any current members that can tell me if Eve's site does come with DDF Network?
Try the "collections" buttons, it lets you see all the models. Pretty sure it even lets you see how many sets and how each set looks from there. Never understood why they listed it as collections.
It's inside the members area. Once you have joined Bang Bros, you will see the super package offer. They also have a DVD site that you can add, but I didn't fool with it.
I'm going to add here that I got Dancing Bear with the Bangbros Superpack and it does allow downloads.
I started with the oldest scenes since I wanted to make sure it wasn't just downloads on the newest scenes. All of the scenes I have tried so far allow downloads. The only problem I've had is that the wmv link is dead on all of them. You can still download the .mp4 small or .mp4 medium file for each though and the medium is a good DVD quality 640x480 on the oldest videos. You can also download the pictures and screenshots in zips. The superpack deal to me is the best way to go since you can add it to your bangbros subscription for $24.95, the price of Dancing Bear by itself. The superpack also includes My GF, College Rules and CFNM Show.
It does look like Dancing Bear, My GF and College Rules are all still updating too. I'm not for sure when they started allowing downloads, but I will add to Khan's post and say they do allow them now.
I couldn't believe it Denner, but Tera was married to the guy you're talking about. I think he uses the name Spyder or Spider in porn, but his name away from porn is Evan Seinfeld. He was in a New York hardcore punk band called Biohazard for years, not for sure if they still make music or not. I have never been able to stomach a scene with him and Tera, even though Tera is one of my all-time favorites. I think Tera met him when she almost became involved with rapper/singer Everlast. Check out Everlast's video, "I can't move" on youtube for a beautiful view of dressed Tera. One of her sexiest works I've seen and it's not even porn.
Hey PP, believe it or not, this was my first time joining Petites, so I was a bit thrown off by some of the numbers. I am even a little confused by their use of the word "featured" on so many sets as these look like exclusive sets, is that how you see those? The only negative I see from it would be if someone had been on Exotics and Galleria, then joined Petites based on the preview which doesn't show all the sets, but has the number "42 sets" "X amount of photos". Then once inside, they realize they already have half of the sets. I do wonder though if they are the exact same sets since a couple I downloaded were same outfit, same setting, same model, but the file size was a little bigger. One was 85.1 MB for the high quality on Petites, the one that looks identical from Exotics was 79.9 MB. Other than that, I like the site better overall than Galleria. One other thing, have you gotten some video files from the ATK sites that are not complete? I have noticed a few are showing up on the site as HD with a total size of 1.2 MB. I thought it was typo, but when I downloaded it, it was in fact 1.2 MB or about 6 seconds.
I've been on an ATK tour lately and put Petites last since, I admit, I was waiting on a promo email, but didn't get one. So I joined it anyway and want to point something out that the other reviewers have, but I don't know if I wasn't paying attention or what.
There is content on here from the other ATK sites. It's definitely not all of it though. There is a good amount of exclusive sets here, but I was downloading one model and noticed 5 photo sets I already had from ATK Exotics. I could be a little off on this since I know some sites will release separate sets in the same outfit, same setting, but there's one that really stood out to me since it was a favorite from ATK Exotics and it looked to be the exact same set.
Not really disappointed since these sites are at least doing everything else right. I just hope ATK isn't going to become like DDF and say because they have a network now, anything on their sites can be shared and still be called exclusive. On a positive note, it looks like most of the shared sets were in the earlier months of the site's life so maybe they were just trying to flesh the site out in its early stages. Still worth mentioning though. Really good picture sets as always with ATK.
I do but it's not a big difference. If a site would be an 83 but has a low price, it will bounce up to maybe 85-86. If it has a high price, it will drop to 80-81. Biggest time price factors in is when a site has very little content and isn't updating. But a site with little content and no updates is going to score low anyway.
I really like Team Skeet and their webmaster is helpful if needed. It's an especially good network if you like the schoolgirl niche. I think they do it better than any site, plus their male talent isn't overly obnoxious or chatty. I also like their Latina site, more so than just for Latinas. Nearly all the girls on it are amateurs. A few will show up on another site or two, but you don't see a lot of common Latina pornstars on Oye Loca. You get the feeling they have to put a lot into these scenes, travel, hunting the models and from the way the webmaster talks they are a fairly small operation without a lot of staff.
I've been in a relatively negative mood lately with sites. I would have picked 21 Sextury just based on them being consistently good for so long, but I don't like the new format and the newer content just doesn't compare to their older scenes. Just did a full subscription to Videobox with Evil Angel/Vivid channels added from the start, added Kink channel in the last week to get the prorated price and felt mostly ripped off. The servers were slow throughout the membership and they now have some kind of server reset each day. If you're downloading files when it resets, the files will be broken. For the whole month of membership including the 3 channels, I downloaded around 90 GB. That's at a total cost of roughly $45. Was on Nubiles a few months ago and had the same impression I always do with them. Everything is very good except they get models very early in their career and the models are much tamer than they have become in other scenes on other sites. Still a good site and buy though. Haven't been to DDF in over a year. Haven't been to TD in over 2 years.
No DL limit for me, but the cancel hijinks are back
This probably isn't any different than the comment posted a few days ago about cancellation problems with Brazzers. Reality Kings likes to make canceling a pain too. I can at least say that I didn't hit a download limit and topped 10 GB per day each day of my membership. And I did sign-up through the promo discounted email if that possibly could make a difference. That's the sort of good news. Then there's the bad news. I'm going to post this just in case anyone joins and isn't familiar with the trick cancellation process. It may be unfair to call it a trick, but it's just as bad as cross-sales, which by the way, like another PU posted, I have joined RK many times, never missed the cross-sale until this time and it got me. Kind of strange they got both of us, but hadn't before. So watch out for that one since it seems to be working for them.
Okay, when you go to cancel, you enter two of the possible four things they ask for. It will locate your account and give you this message.
Are you sure you don't want to stay?
You answer "No thanks"
Another screen opens with a special offer price and asks if you want the special offer.
You answer "No thanks"
Third screen opens to confirm one more time. The options are.
Yes and
No, I've changed my mind.
Come on RK, that's just wrong. After clicking two no answers in a row then wording the third one so the person would click no again? Which would stop the cancellation? None of this would be so bad if they didn't use very poor grammar on the first question to make it where you click "no thanks" to get you in the motion of clicking no.
Luckily, I had been through this process with Brazzers before and I bitched about that one too. So maybe RK will drop this stupid cancellation process like Brazzers did. It's bad enough the missed cross-sale canceled out the $5 I was saving by joining through the promo email and even worse that a more than dozen time member has to watch every word to cancel. It will probably be another year now before I join again. How's that for marketing strategy?
And hopefully others will read about the cancellation process and be aware of it.
Really depends for me. I've tried to differentiate in my reviews. In reviews of sites that I personally enjoy the content of, I will review more from the perspective I have towards the content. If it's content that I wasn't into as much personally, I try to review it from potential members perspectives who would enjoy the style/genre. Based on that, if it's a site that I don't personally enjoy, I do take into account how much content there is, but if it's a site I do enjoy the content of, the quantity becomes less important to the score.
I used the comparison before. If a site has 2,000 scenes but I only keep 20 scenes is it really better than a site that has only 40 scenes, but I keep all 40 scenes?
With that said, that's why the sites with the lesser appealing content to me personally get a different scoring system since I figure others more interested in the genre would keep more than 20 out of 2,000 scenes.
I have been having the same problem messmer. I mainly use VB2 and it's not even showing up part of the time. Also having to download 5-6 files at one time to get a decent download speed.
I had been wanting to try this site out since they have 3 scenes I wanted so I signed up for the trial, mainly because it was through ccbill. Once inside and signed in, I can't do anything. There's no way to download a scene because the icons for downloads are not clickable. If you right click and "save as" you receive an "index" file. They have added a second bonus site called Argentinian Porno, but it only has 8 scenes on it. The two sites combined have a total of 42 scenes.
I'm guessing they have removed the full-access from the trial or it could be a problem with the site too though since it doesn't even recognize me as being signed in. The two options that I can click are, "Purchase scene" which is $15.99 to buy one scene and it says, "YOU DO NOT have to be a site member to purchase an individual video/ scene. Please click on "Pay with credit card" button to proceed with the purchase. Every Full video/scene is $ 15.99"
The other option that I can click, "Create a new account". Just to make sure, I cleared out my cookies and tried it again with both IE and Firefox, but I still get the same result where the site looks broken or the trial is equal to no access since you can only view a 2 minute trailer, which most free previews let you do.
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