I read the reviews of this site, which a few are really good, one lower one. So I checked the preview out. Wow, looks good, resolution on pics could be better, but the model selection looks like a who's who of Euro models. They are all there, Eve Angel, Anetta Keys, Anette Dawn, Sandy, Sandra Shine, Sophie, Angel Dark, Audrey Bitoni, and this list goes on and on.
The preview shows 72 models. So for $19.99, plus my favorite models all on here, this would be a good deal for me. I join.
Hey, wait a minute here. For some reason 45 of those 72 models have NO content. Good business practice says, "If it doesn't say SOON in the preview, it better not say SOON once I pay." As for their promise of soon. Drooler reviewed this site in April, they had 17 models, this is July, they have 27. Ten models in about 10 weeks.
Basic math tells me that means this site won't have all the models they advertise until next year! It is one thing for a site to post a "Soon" under a model who will be on the site within the month. But they have 45 models listed that they don't have ANY content of, and only 27 with content. There are few positives to this site, great Anetta Keys content, but that is about it. My review will explain that.
This site is employing the year 2000 tactics to fool us. Which prides me to say, I will join it again, in 2000. Hopefully those who read this won't fall for their false advertising. BTW, FC stands for anyone who joins it, F*cking Crazy.
Some of the content on each of the NS sites end up on their DVDs. I believe the Eva Angelina (One of my favorites too) clip on POV Fantasy is on a couple of DVDs. I didn't realize it when I joined, but I already had the clip from a DVD that I had downloaded from videobox. Still the NS package is a great deal for the price. I'm also a Nautica fan as well.
I do remember when ATK had the AMKingdom logo instead of the ATK one, and do believe their main office is in Florida. The CS rep that responded to my email kept mentioning UK and members "favourite" model instead of favorite. I actually wrote to complain to them also about the treatment of some of the models in the behind the scenes clips. If you have watched any of those, everyone from the photographer to the hairdresser/make-up person, and the woman who asks questions have British accents.
In one though, with Eve Angel, they go to Hungary, her home country, and have her walk around the cities with them explaining history. She speaks and understands very little English. They start asking her the dumbest questions, "What happened at this spot in 1958?" because there is a marker that says 1958. She was born in the early 80s. Also, "Could you point at that building and tell us what it is?" It was obvious that pointing is seen as rude in Hungary. She says no. They continue with these boneheaded questions. Then it hits a boiling point when the cameraman asks her to, "dance a little" thousands of Hungarians walking around. She says no. He says, "Ok, show us something." She says no. He asks something else, the woman with him asks something else. Finally, Eve says, "I'm not doing that! All the f*cking Hungarians around, it is not right!" she also tells them she is not happy with the shoot, they are being too personal that she is there to model.
I expect this type of badgering from some of our US sites like Bang Bus who are in it for humor as well as sexy. But I thought it was really sad for the ATK sites to badger a model like this. She was fine with spreading nude, in privacy, for the behind the scenes, changing clothes in front of them, everything, but you could tell they went too far by going against Hungarian customs.
See, I'm on the opposite end as you when it comes to women. Being from California, most of the US pornstars look just like girls I see everyday out here. I have some US models I like, Eva Angelina, Aria G, Teagen for example, but I tend to prefer the Euros. Even so, didn't want you to think I was trying to debate your score. I was mainly just letting you know what they had told me.
I noticed those sites too, as far as I know $1.23 US is right! I've seen varied reviews though, some that say the price is $1 too much ha ha. At that price though, you can't go wrong.
Thanks Shap, I really need to re-join Twisty's again, it was one of my first reviews on this site. I love the Eve/Puma video you all have on Twistys, and at the time I wasn't saving pictures so I need to come back and get those pics of Eve. I will probably still try Blue Fantasies out, one is better than none, and I'm at the point with Eve that I have probably 80% of everything she has been in. Plus, I like Anetta Keys and Veronica, and all those other ones too! Eve kind of is the iciing for me when picking a site to try out for the first time.
I'm also interested in the Anette Dawn site you all have, just giving it some time to grow a little. Keep up the good work, Twistys was the 2nd paysite I joined a few years ago, mainly for the Aria content.
I'm just curious here, the preview shows a whole page of models with the name that starts with A, a couple of rows with B, then jumps to J. Most of you probably know, I am looking to see if Eve Angel is on this site. It has several of my favorites that I do see, but I was just wondering if anyone that has been a member remembers if Eve is on it?
Once upon a time my friends, once upon a long time ago!
I'm at that point with Snowdude, I really don't want to see myself naked in a movie these days. On a side note, there can be good uses with filming yourself. You and your partner watch and notice which positions seem to get her hips moving more or the sad one, which positions she looks bored in.
I think ATK is going to give you a ton of women, pic quality is pretty good 1500, videos leave a lot to be desired. No full clips, and the quality isn't that good either. Picture wise though, the sheer number of models on this site is crazy. Let me throw a few numbers at you.
Models that have the name that start with letter A - 237
With the letter J - 145
With the letter K - 162
With the letter L - 175
With the letter M - 198
With the letter S - 190
As you can see, that right there is over 1,000 models. I'm not for sure the total, but I have to imagine it is over 2,000 models.
You also will get some really great nearly amateur photos of some of the top Euro models like Eve, Zafira, Sophie. That are from the early years of these model's careers. The only model I haven't found on here that I always check for is Lucky. I checked Lucy, Lucie, but nothing. Everyone else is here and many you haven't heard of and some that you wish you never saw!
It is a great site though I've been an ongoing member off and on for the last several years and have most of the stuff from it that I want. Updates come in bunches, daily too. One warning, not all of the content is exclusive. I know that with Eve, I've seen several of the sets on Twistys as well.
Paul Markham, I've heard of it but haven't tried, I believe that is the one that Sapphic Erotica gets their material or girls from? I do love Sapphic Erotica, so if it is anything like it, it should be great.
Karups PC, I have considered joining it more times than probably any site that I haven't joined. Matter of fact, I'm heading over to it after I finish this to see if they have a model list up. I've heard nothing but good things about Karups' line of sites.
If you have been on 1byday, especially back a few years ago, that is very similar to ATK Galleria. Loads of content, quality is average. Though, I heard 1byday is revamping their already great site. I'm stuck as well, I'm going to join a couple of sites tonight.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Multi-stie network unlike most on the internet
- Features individual sites of some of the most popular internet models, Anneta Keys, Veronica Vanoza, Silvia Saint
- Movies are generally average or above quality, nice bitrates 2,000-3,000 range, worst res on the network is 440x360, from what I've seen, best is 640x480
- Scenes are available in one big file instead of piecing them together.
- Some hardcore sites on here as well!
Cons:
- Pics might as well not be here, no zip downloads, small resolution.
- Most of the individual model sites have in the range of 20 pic sets, 2-5 videos, you can get more of each of these models on sites like PixandVideo, 1byday.
- Did not notice any new updates if they are even updating.
Bottom Line:
This network has an interesting idea. Take the seductive Veronica Vanoza, the cute as can be Anetta Keys, the exotic Zdenka, and the ever popular Sylvia Saint, combine individual sites of each with hardcore (Czech Wives), masturbation (Chicks and Toys), hardcore blowjobs (Deep Throat Hell), MILFs (Fucking Hot Moms), cumshots (Jizz Hell) and two fetish sites (My Sexy Nurses and Stocking Foxes).
Sounds good? Not really. As a collector of Anetta Keys, I had seen all of the pictures and both (yep TWO whole videos) of her. The majority of the content on the individual sites is not exclusive. I'm not for sure if the other sites are exclusive since there is so much porn available. But the non-individual sites were all new to me.
I really like the idea they have here, though. I've always wondered why someone didn't start a group of individual models sites network. Then, I realized, 1byday, pixandvideo and many other sites from the same cloth are just that. The top models for me on this site are Anetta and Veronica, never was that big on Zdenka or Sylvia Saint. Both Anetta and Veronica have more content of 1byday than they have on these individual sites that are just about them.
Even if the content was exclusive, there is no option to download zips of the pictures so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. With little to no updates that I have noticed, there is little reason to stay on this site or to even think about recommending it. My first in a long time, not recommended!
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Network access, plays several fetishes (In school, at work, etc..) all for the most part are centered around big breasts.
- Above average video quality, available in WMV or MPEG, WMV 640x480.
- No download limits, I mention this because another network with similar content had a 2GB download limit the last time I was on it.
- Pic sets are much nicer than most networks, huge zips with over 250 pics in each.
- Exclusive content
Cons:
- Eh, they call these models amateurs, but you will see Eva Angelina, Chavon Taylor, Carmella Bing and put it this way, there are many more non-amateurs than amateurs.
- I may get a little flack for this, but a good portion of the big boobs are fake.
- Like most networks they could squeeze some of these sites together.
Bottom Line:
I really liked Brazzers, I'm not even a big boob man. But they do have a couple of big ass sites, and that is more up my alley. My only real complaint is that most of the scenes feel like I've seen them before. I know I haven't, but like the Eva Angelina school scene, she has been in probably 3-4 scenes in school, with a little short plaid skirt and her cute glasses. Don't get me wrong, I could look at her like that all day, but my point being, though the content is exclusive and new, it isn't near being original.
Overall, the network has probably 7 sites that I really liked, the rest were mostly focusing on the big boobage. Though I do find Chavon Taylor very sexy. It has more potential, I believe, than the other reality networks do, because they don't go all out and try to convince you it is real.
I am pleased with the quality, 640x480 on the WMV, nice download speeds, probably reaches about 90% of my max download speed. I was surprised by the pictures coming in zips of 250 or more pictures. Sometimes looking at the pictures right before viewing a clip, it will help you notice something you might not pay attention to otherwise.
The price is good, $24.99, they seem like a group of fun loving guys, kind of like on Ox Pass. Which matters some since I will flip if I see another male pornstar spit on a female pornstar. Eva's scenes are excellent, some of her best work, and from what I know she does the best when having fun. I recommend, especially for boobs fans!
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
Pros:
- They have over 2,000 DVDs
- Excellent TBP price of $14.95
- I believe only Videobox has more quanity than Vixeo, one thing that should be noted, those 2,000+ DVDs only consist of maybe 20 gay/tranny, so they have over 2,000 of either b/g, g/g or group.
- Quality is good for the most part. They are still saying DVD quality is 640x480 and that is what these clips are.
- Also has the best download speeds of any of the DVD sites I have been on.
Cons:
- Some of the very oldest scenes are cut into clips.
- Navigation still can't match Videobox, but it really doesn't look like anyone can match VB in that regard.
Bottom Line:
This is #2 behind Videobox for me. I've been a member on Vixeo, 3 times in the last 6 months. They are delivering 2 updates per day, which doesn't compare with Videobox, but you also don't get a lot of filler DVDs that no one will want either. I believe one of the best ways to pick a DVD site is write down your favorite 10 models that are usually in DVDs, check the # of videos they have of each one. Usually if a site has 20 plus clips of the top models, you can bet it is a pretty good site.
You will rarely see a video on Vixeo that has under "stars" "unknown". Vixeo surprised me the first time I joined it. Which I did because of a couple of my favorites, Eva Angelina and Nautica Thorn had several movies that I hadn't seen before.
DVD sites for me have hit their peak. Very few of these sites will ever be able to offer all of their content on HD, mainly because of space limitations, could you imagine having 2,000 HD dvds? Talk about server crashes!
Also, I am finding less new talent coming into the DVD porn world, and instead, going to solo sites, to release their own stuff.
If you get tired of Videobox, try Vixeo out, I believe it is the next best, with Pornstarxs and DVDbox following a step behind. They have 3 pages, 6 full DVDs on each with Eva for example and even two full pages of Kayla Marie which is I believe the most out of the DVD sites for Kayla. It is a good value no doubt, recommeded!
I too have wondered about the Premium label. I wouldn't have posted this if I hadn't seen where you are from USA like I am. Seems they speak a different English than we do, according to the email that I received back from them, "ATK Premium is a collection of the best from each of our sites, ATK Galleria, ATK Hairy, ATK Exotics, based on model popularity."
Which does make some sense when you think of it. Kind of like a Greatest Hits cd or Best of cd. I explained to them that I thought maybe it would be higher quality on the pictures and/or videos. Their reply back, "If it were higher quality video and pictures; don't you think we would be charging more for it than we do for the other ATK sites?" I thought about digging a hole to bury my head in!
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Interesting angle to the site, glamour photography with hardcore thrown in, as well as fetish (urination, smoking, etc..)
- Big 720x576 resolution on movies
- Over 250 models, some have upwards of 12 sets of pictures and videos.
- I believe the price was lowered recently to $29.99, seems to me it had been in the $40 range.
- Despite not many big name models, there are still 10 or so that are gorgeous.
Cons:
- Movies are too short, maybe Jon has some sort of charm that I don't know about, but girls orgasming in 2 minutes and 12 seconds is a little fast to me.
- Not enough teasing from the models in the videos, it is bam hit record, naked, orgasm, done.
- Pictures need to be bigger in zip downloads
- Unless you use Firefox, the download speeds may be slow. I connect with Firefox to 4 clips or zips at a time and get average speed when combining them
Bottom Line:
I usually join this site once a year. I really wish they would go back and so something with Ally's videos, she is a really pretty, J-Lo looking model, not in the butt though, just face and hair. Her movies are only available in WMV 320x240. Most of the other models have the 720x576 DIVX versions available. They have more movie options than any site I have seen. But the DIVX files are the best quality of the ones available.
I've always found the models on here to be hit or miss. I either really like them, or I don't even want to see a second picture. On a side note, I still am not the least bit for much hair on the female body except the head. Some of these girls do have underarm hair, which will make me skip them everytime. I have even skipped a few on here because of excess pubic hair.
I believe there are a good 30-40 top level models on here, including the lovely Lucky doing hardcore, Mahe is an excellent erotic model, Ally that has been one of the top models on here is a real looker, I would then say many of the others are plain old ugly.
My recommendation is not quite as excited as the score would indicate. I do believe this to be one of the top glamour sites on the internet, but part of glamour is beauty and some of these models aren't close to beauty. I seen the new trial for the next week that is $5, check it out with that trial. I kind of wished I had waited to join and got in on it. I still recommend the site and believe most would like it!
I'm sort of concerned about seeing raw pictures of some of my favorites! I hear that a certain glamour, busty model with a last name meaning "Gift from God" in Italian has to have some touch-ups sometimes for hair above her facial lips. Just a rumor maybe, but I don't want to risk that. I would hope they don't start cutting the meat off the bones. I've found a real attraction to a model named Lucky, believe Lucy on some sites and I think even as Andrea on other sites, that has a bit of a pouch on her stomach, but she looks incredibly sexy to me...at least.
Even Eve Angel and that other one I mentioned at the top have gained some weight over the years. I'm pretty sure I've looked at them enough that any imprefections are looked over anyhow, though facial hair may be pushing it lol!
On the other hand, I don't mind the sites that airbrush. I guess it could be excessive on sites, but most look more like the women have been laying in tanning beds all day.
That is interesting, sorry I hadn't gotten back sooner. I don't know why they would remove a few months of the archives, though I do know that Eve's site is having a slowdown right now. As of today, almost Sunday, there isn't a Saturday update or even a button to see July's calender.
I've been frustrated at times with Gen. Entertainment, but overall, I've had good experiences with their customer service. For example, on Eve's site a recent set where she is standing under an outdoor shower with a thin shirt on, the WMV version won't let you scan forward, but the MOV version will. I catch myself checking every clip now just in case the WMV version has this problem, probably 6-7 over the years have had the same problem.
I'm still not for sure about lowering the site. There are few sites on the internet that have the quality pictures/videos, even if only for 19 months, daily set equals roughly 550 pic or vid sets for $14.99. That is a lot of quanity and quality for half the price of most high quality sites. You will have to excuse my positivity, I'm from California, I like the glass half full!
But seriously, I can understand that some would take away, especially if they make a habit of recycling sets. I'm almost positive that each of the General Entertainment sites are ran by different webmasters and have different customer service reps. Let me know if they continue to recycle.
jd1961, don't you just love when you can spend a month on a site and not be bored with it? I've had so many subscriptions where after the first few weeks, I don't go back for the last two weeks. I will probably join up HOH next week, still have a couple of subscriptions running right now and the wife will complain if I get too many!
First, thank you for the quick response and my apology for not getting back sooner. As I replied to Khan here at PU, I was hoping that someone from DDF would respond and give me a clear explanation, and you did just that.
That sounds really great with the editing. I had seen a video of an American porn star that was one clip, but had been edited and sold as 3 separate niche clips. Good news for me, I have never been a member on DDF Busty, so all of those clips will be new for me as well.
I'm kind of a porn snob, I like certain models and usually only join a site if they have at least one of those top 5 models for me. I seem to have similar favorites as Denys has, so I trust in his picks for the Busty ones.
You threw me off course with the re-launch of 1byday! I will still probably check out HOH for a month before running back to 1byday! DDF is picking the right time to start making a move on the Euro porn market, with the other big Euro supplier of online porn, getting a little in over their heads with too many sites, DDF has the chance to pass them up.
Hey Khan, I have noticed that TBP is the most accurate of the review sites, and another part I have noticed about the exclusive part is to check each separate review of the 4 reviewers. My main goal for posting the question was to see if a webmaster would respond and give me some exact numbers, which they did.
Which hopefully more users will take the oppurtunity to ask about sites and get nice, helpful answers like I did from Bela. It really shows that the webmasters are doing their best to give their customers a fair deal.
Great site and review, I've been meaning to re-join, my favorite is Tylar and also like that little thick one Kayla. Sandra is always great too. Do you still get the Harris Archives with it?
I was checking this site out, and had planned to join it, especially with the new lower price.
I have one question though. Just from glancing the preview that the site offers, I see a video that is also on or was on 1byday. It is the Sandra Shine 3-way.
Don't get me wrong here, I know all DDF sites are great, but I'm just curious to know if most of the videos on HOH are available elsewhere since 1byday does have the weekly High Quality hardcore clip. I'm asking because I have about 60 GB of DDF from 1byday. Spencer's review on TBP says all-exclusive. I have no reason to believe he would mislead with his review, plus the review is older and maybe the non-exclusive came after he wrote the review. Just looking for some clarification on it.
I voted yes, and want to add something in here. If a site doesn't offer a trial, then they should have a reduced monthly price, if not, then they should have a minimum of one free video preview. Maybe less than 5 minutes on the free video and 20-30 free (same resolution as members get) pictures.
The General Entertainment sites don't offer trials, but each of them have discounted prices through TBP for $15 a month and their top 2 sites, Eve Angel and Mya Diamond both have hundreds of video clips and picture sets. I have noticed that more of the full access trials are getting higher in price. The good thing, most of those are 5-7 day trials as well, instead of the just waiting to hit me with a charge because I can't get the billing company to cancel in 2 days trials.
Last, the site that goes through my mind when reading this poll and the comments is Annette Dawn's personal site. It says exclusive, the numbers are probably up to double digit pic sets and video sets by now, but it is priced at $24.99. It would be a shame for such a beautiful model not to ever get her own site going because of the person over her site starting the price too high and offering no preview.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- One of the biggest picture collection on the internet
- Large daily updates
- Videos are decent quality, but there are many of them
- Some exclusive content
- Just about any model you can name from Europe is on this site
Cons:
- Despite the many updates, the site still looks the same from a couple of years ago.
- Videos only come in parts, so you get to download 4-5 clips to get a full scene
- I think the price could be lower, site is fairly similar to Twistys, which is $10 less per month.
Bottom Line:
Here is an old favorite of mine that I recently joined again to see how things have changed. Well, they haven't changed. There is still a whole lot of guessing and scrolling. Click on each letter of the alphabet, then start scrolling to find the models you are looking for.
The pictures are nice size, up to 1500, and can be downloaded in zips. On a side note there, the zips are split into parts, usually 4 or 5 tiny files, 2-4 megs each. Which shows that they need to update their site. Downloading 4 files that are 3 megs each with a 10M connection seems like a waste since as soon as I click save as, the file is finished.
Another complaint with the pictures is the way they are labeled by the model's name only, so you get to re-name them while realizing the sets are already finished downloading.
Don't get me wrong, it is one of the all-time great sites for those who collect pictures. The movies are good enough and if you have certain models you like, they are at least can be reached from the picture page instead of trying to find them in the movie gallery.
This is an especially good site if you like Euro models who are now in the elite Euro model group, most of them have older sets on this site that you won't find anywhere but here. You will even see some of those models that you knew as solo or g/g only doing b/g sets. If you've never been a member, bump the score up to a 95. If you've been a member, things haven't changed much, but I still recommend it!
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Very unique site, settings, outfits, everything is just different from what the norm is with Euro girls
- In the 300s now in models, with usually 5+ photo sets and at least 1 video, the more popular models have 10+ photo sets and 5+ videos each.
- Picture resolution is good enough, but could be bigger, on the other hand, the scenery, backdrops, etc is as good as you will see
- See the other side of the models which I like
- Has b/g, g/g/, solo, posing everything you could ask for
Cons:
- Little false advertising in the videos. You can download full "parts", but there are multiple parts, if you downloaded them by clips, it would take 10+ clips for one scene. Or in parts, usually 3. So it really isn't full clips that you are downloading.
- It is not a 100% exclusive site, not even close anymore.
Bottom Line:
This is still one of my favorite sites, despite the big boo-boo on videos. I enjoy seeing the regular side of the models, but only if they are not one of those tease models that never takes her clothes off. My favorite Eve Angel has a set on here where she is making jewelry, sure enough, that jewelry she is making is the same I've seen her wear in other sets. Which shows a down to earth, non-materialistic side to the models.
I do question the "Premium" part in the name, though I do like this site better than the other ATK sites. I only join this site about once every 6 months, but it is mainly because I know I can pick up everything I have missed in a month or so.
Don't think it is just a site about showing the model's personality or anything like that. For example, the newest video update is of the gorgeous Zafira in a b/g movie. I've followed her career, and that I remember she hasn't done b/g that I have seen, though I do know she had a Killer Grip handjob clip. There is plenty of hardcore here, plenty of girl on girl, and plenty masturbation. Throw in seeing the other side of the models and I think you have one heck of a site.
I think it is a site that you have to give a chance to. Because of the nature of most of the picture sets, some of which have backdrops as beautiful as postcards from European countries, that shows a beautiful woman's shadows in the sunset, then you flip it over and get her hardcore clips! Highly Recommended, 1-2 months max at a time.
Follow-Up:
Knocked off 4 points for poor customer service. I sent email to ask about a certain model, nothing was returned. It is still recommended, but just don't try and ask the customer service any questions.
I had read your review on the Eva Angelina solo site, and that alone made me wary of these sites. Believe it or not, Eva was supposed to have a site called Club Eva Angelina, which is the same name as Angel Dark's, Club Angel Dark, so I definitly won't be jumping in for a full membership, but might still give the trial a try in a few weeks. $8 isn't too bad, and would at least probably answer my questions about these sites.
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