I'm kind of stuck on this one on which side to believe. Notice the webmaster says there is 5GB of material. That's half of Reality Kings daily dl limit, so it couldn't be very big or that high of quality.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- It's public sex that sometimes isn't really public, that other times is very kinky.
- As with every Kink site I've been a member on there are high quality photos and videos and plenty of imagination with each scene.
- Navigation issues aren't too bad here since I had never been a member of the site and just scrolled through the updates, making it quite easy to navigate.
- European sets seem to really push the public limit with sex on streets and in barely hidden places that the viewer can still see the society functioning around. Will go further in BL.
- Models can be hit or miss for me. The older European sets had more models I am familiar with, but the newer sets, mostly shot around or in the Kink armory have models I'm not as familiar with. One thing that keeps this in the pros are the appearances of Isis Love in several scenes, though not listed in the model credits.
- Download speed is always above average on Kink sites
Cons:
- Scenes in America may push the limit of misleading advertising. I'm not of this belief, but the comment section of the newer American scenes have 20% comments complaining that they are not public, will further in BL.
- I'm beating, maybe flogging would be a better word since it's Kink, the dead horse when I complain about the photo sets being broken up into parts, but I feel it's important for potential members to know.
- While the site is plenty large enough, considering the complexity of the scenes, I don't know if it offers much for multi-month memberships or for many return visits. Numbers in BL.
Bottom Line:
This site had been one on my list to join. The last 4 sites I have joined are Kink sites. My overall impression of this site is good, but at times, I was either thinking things went too far or things were way too protected.
With any exhibitionism or voyeur site, I do need at least some believability. I have enough of an imagination to make most scenes believable. Having said that, I know a lot of porn viewers don't. The members comments on Public Disgrace use words like "false advertising" and "bait and switch" and these are not just 1 or 2 comments, but maybe 5-10 on some scenes. This is my feeling on it.
In the earlier scenes on this site, starting in 2008, it was more of an exhibitionism site than disgrace site. These scenes included recording the male and female models having sex in subway steps as traffic and people walked by. It included sex by the road as traffic went by. From what I can tell by the license plates on the cars it was nearly all shot in Europe. There are complaints about "where is the disgrace?" They do have some scenes that go into bondage in public places, but the majority of the scenes that are outside in Europe are much more regular sex as described earlier in this paragraph. The scenes take on a decided turn to filming in and around the Kink armory in San Francisco. They bring in a crowd to watch, these rarely go into the exhibitionism like the European scenes did since it's a controlled crowd and controlled environment, but these do bring in more disgrace than the European scenes.
How disgraceful? I'm sure it's subjective. There is writing on the model's body, "I'm a slut", "Whore" to dumping food on the model to heavy bondage. These scenes remind me more of Sex and Submission type scenes. Where you as a member have to choose is if you prefer the more public, less disgrace scenes or less public, more disgrace scenes. Only a small amount of the scenes really do both. I do understand and respect the possible laws they had to be concerned about breaking so I'm not really against either side, but I do prefer the more public, less disgrace.
Overall the site is pretty big considering the niche and complexity of each scene, however, it only updates once a week.
As of 11/7/2012 there are a total of 209 scenes. These scenes include photos and video. The videos are quite long ranging from 45 minutes to 90 minutes. The photos are split into parts on the zips.
If you're big on technical quality, this site delivers. These are the video options.
Smaller Screen is 640x360 in MP4 format
Most compatible is 960x540 in WMV format
Windows Media HD is 1280x720 in WMV format
Highest Quality MP4 is 1280x720 in H264 MP4 format
All 209 scenes have those options.
Navigation is pretty limited, but with 209 scenes, you can just scroll through pages of 14 scenes per page. It doesn't do much good to use the model search since it takes you to all the model's scenes on their family of sites, most of which, you won't have a membership to.
As mentioned earlier you get one new scene per week. With the newer scenes turning more to the disgrace side, this could be a problem for me with future joins. I don't want to say all of the American scenes are bad though. Quite a few are in more public places than the Kink armory and as long as they work the crowd into it, whether a controlled crowd or environment or not, I will still like those scenes.
Where they lose me is in the disgrace part. I don't mind bondage, but we saw a bunch of immature sites years ago try the writing on the model's bodies angle and it failed miserably for them. I don't think it's that I'm offended as much as it is that I expect more from Kink than this. I would think anytime you're dealing with a niche like disgrace there are lines that go into "That's not disgrace, it's just silly". On the other side, I wouldn't want them to truly go into disgracing the models either since I'm not even for sure how far that would have to go. The last side of it is I don't ever hold a site to stick directly with their name since the amount of urls available isn't that large and I don't know if I would ever want to be on a site that never changes.
I enjoyed the site though. It's different enough from the mainstream to keep my attention on it. I would like to see more public exhibitionism, but more than that, just enough to give my imagination something to work with. The body writing makes my imagination want to get a washcloth and soap to wash it off. Not exactly the point of joining a porn website.
I would recommend it to most anyone. The disgrace is if anything silly and playful. The models are pretty and some have never been seen. I just don't think if you're really into disgrace you're going to get it here and outside of the Euro scenes, I don't think you're going to truly get a lot of public sex unless you're able to tap into your imagination some. The one admittedly biased part is Isis Love being in some of the newer scenes.
Current Member for over 2 months (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Huge DVD studio site
- It's maybe not as extreme as some will think, which is what led me to give it a try.
- Hard to get an exact number, but HD DVDs have been coming in for around 2-3 years.
- Navigation is good considering the site's size, but still could use a tweak or two.
- Lots of variety from traditional one on one sex to group sex orgies to the land of extreme with extreme anal and transsexuals.
- Very enjoyable DVD series Voracious. I would say it's the best continuing series I've seen on a porn site though there really isn't a lot of competition.
- Download speeds are good and you can download 6 files at a time while still browsing the site.
- Interesting and unique marketing style. If you swing by the site they often run promos no one would expect like Canadian Thanksgiving 50% off.
- Will even give them credit for being one of the few sites I have seen that has a cross-sale, but it's unmarked. Though I would still keep my eye on it.
- Lowest big option is 480p
Cons:
- This is probably my biggest complaint. I wish the search engine had a little box for me to search from. Their search capabilities are probably enough for anyone, but having that box to search directly would be nice. Will further this in BL.
- It's a DVD site, not supposed to expect pictures, but they do have pictures for most of their DVDs and you know it, no zips. This is fairly minor on this site since some of the photo sets only have 15-20 pictures, but it would be a nice touch.
- Non-descriptive filenames, which also goes into con #1.
- Piece by piece updates
Bottom Line:
The first con should be perception. I have joined or added the Evil Angel channel on Videobox for a couple years, but would only add it to get the scenes of my favorite models. I was under the belief their content was too hard, in general, for me to join their own studio site. I received a very cheap promo several months ago, took a shot and have ended up sticking around for nearly 4 months. I should add here that I haven't been able to download as much as I used to or the time I needed to download everything I wanted may have been lower. Still, the content was good enough that I wanted to keep downloading for 4 months so that should say something for the studio.
The negatives aren't very big. My main complaint with the site is not having a search box. In defense of the site, they give you these options to search from. A full model list that lists all scenes by each model. Thirty or so tags that take you to a specified niche. A drop-down box that lets you search by DVD series name, so if you download "Rocco Loves Cougars #8" (most likely not a real series), you can find which other DVDs they have in that series since you downloaded volume 8. These search tools are going to be enough for the vast majority of users, but when combined with filenames that follow this style 10007_03_HD, it can be a problem if you forget which volume of a series you have already downloaded.
I ran into the above problem when I was away from the site for 4 days. I had forgotten not only my last downloaded file, but also the series name. I could remember one word from the title name of the series, but had no search box to put that one word in to narrow down the series'. Instead, it was open the drop-down box and trust my eyes to find the one word I remembered out of 100 or more series names. While this is all fairly minor it still looks like a minor amount of work for a programmer to make what would have been a major difference.
The update style also caused me to knock a point or two off the score. They update regularly, daily, but they split their DVDs up by scene. And if you have bad luck, you'll be like me. One day before my membership expired a new DVD was posted with one of my favorite models. Her scene was scene #3 on the DVD. Which meant her scene wouldn't be available to download until 2 days after my membership ran out. I don't know if just releasing a new DVD, in full, per week would be enough to satisfy the average porn consumers desire for daily updates or not.
The good far outweighs those negatives though. The overall numbers don't compare to a Videobox or Videosz, but the overall quality of the scenes does and surpasses them. The total number of DVDs they have is nearing 1,300 and total scenes in nearing 8,000. I believe the video sites listed in this paragraph are both over 11,000 DVDs at this time, but a quick look at my folders says this: Videobox: 868 GB Videosz: 565 GB Evil Angel: 1.1 TB
The Evil Angel number is much more impressive if you consider I have only been a member this year. I have probably had 10+ memberships to Videobox and the majority of that kept content is from the Vivid channel.
Maybe the thing that makes Evil Angel stand out to me is the variety. While I'm not a huge fan of extreme hardcore, if you get bored with same ol', same ol', they have plenty of extreme hardcore to break the monotony. When you've watched enough gaping, spitting, rough sex, you can go back and find the more mainstream, traditional scenes. To me, this goes back to my assumption of all their content being extreme. Once I was a member, I could see that they have a lot of less extreme DVDs.
It's kind of like they are covering all niches so you can most likely always find something to match whatever mood you are in. The Voracious series is worth mentioning since I was pretty hard on Sex Art on their ongoing series Kamikaze Love. Voracious, like Kamikaze Love is sort of like watching a cable series after dark, but unlike Kamikaze Love, it goes well into the XXX land. The acting performances are still mostly laughable, but if I was here for acting performance I would be watching Tom Hanks or Morgan Freeman movies.
I do think the harder scenes will push some potential members away, but I didn't see anything that hardcore or violent or disgusting. Maybe their hardest scenes are sitting on the border of "we're almost going too far, but not quite". All niches are covered except for gay, but there are transsexual scenes. And if you like the more imagination needed scenes, Buttman has compilations that focus on strip, spandex, feet, butts, etc...
These scenes, I'm pretty sure are just cut from whole scenes, but if you're just wanting a certain part, they've saved you the work of having to go through the full scenes to find it.
A few tweaks here and there would have pushed this site in the 95 range. Picture zips alone may have. Definite recommend, especially for DVD fans who want some variety.
I know this looks to be the same page you listed, but this one has "cancel" in the url instead of "member". http://www.untbill.com/cancel.html
A few other tips. Do not copy and paste your user id and password in. It seems some sites put a space at the first or end of the user id or password if copy/pasted and causes the word(s) to be wrong.
If that doesn't work you could always try Epoch, NetCash and Segpay's sites by trying to cancel through them. At worst, it will be a waste of a few minutes. If this still isn't working, do the lost password feature and change your password. Then try to cancel with the new password. If none of this works, I would put their number on my phone and call them as often as possible. If after a few days you're not getting through, I would then resort to calling your credit/debit card and telling them you signed up for a recurring membership (don't have to tell them to a porn site if you don't want) and tell them the site isn't letting you cancel. They should be able to do something to stop another charge from these sites.
I get the free offer from Porn Access every week. It's 3 days free access and turns into a $29.99 membership if not canceled. You can join the site here through TBP for $5 a month. I would rather pay the $5 for a month than free 3 days with the risk of not canceling it fast enough.
Sorry about the delay on the reply. I've found that my views of body types are a good bit different than a lot of porn fans. I'm a huge fan of Cindy and Tia, but always considered them slim. And you threw me off on the Isis Love one. It's an easy to make mistake since it's Isis Taylor, a little lesser known model than Isis Love. And I do agree though, the Isis Taylor scene is my favorite on the site. I think the webmaster of the site tries too hard to stick to that 18 at the end of the site name, which is why so many of the models are of slimmer build. I could see models like Isis Love, Jenaveve Jolie, Sativa Rose having excellent scenes on a site with this niche, but they are all around 30 years old.
I used the same strategy you did on VB and added the Kink channel in the last week of a membership back about 5 months ago. That opened my mind back up on Ultimate Surrender since I hadn't seen any of their live sites until joining the Kink channel on VB. Even after a few months have passed now, I still find the scenes with the models I like, very good. But there are really only two models that I really liked, Dragon Lily and Isis Love. I'm not even for sure I like either of them for their skill in grappling, but instead, Dragon for being a very curvy Asian model which is rare in my experience and Isis for being so pretty, yet so dominant.
The navigation problems became more evident on Divine Bitches since there was no way to tell which scenes were just straight domination or ones that involved bisexual men. And with Ultimate Surrender, a simple "Live" tag system would make a huge difference. I just gave up on the photo sets which ended up disappointing me even more since I would have liked to get the Dragon Lily and Isis pictures. On the other hand, I still feel like Kink has improved a great deal over their earlier days when they had download limits that made most download limits today look huge. Hard to believe they used to limit members to 10 GB per month. And I'm thinking that's why they originally split the photo sets like they do. Since the limit was so low, I guess people complained they didn't want the full sets since it would be a bigger file.
Maybe the review did some good. Right after my membership ran out and I posted this review, six of their next eight scenes were boy/girl. With the other two being girl/girl. So maybe there is still hope for them delivering on a more hardcore site. On the other hand, one of those new ones has the female model covered in "stone" like a classic art statue. Those overly artsy sets alone push me away. I haven't even liked most bodypaint sets in the past. And the scenes give you a feeling you're supposed to watch from beginning to end, but I didn't find much story in them to keep me that interested.
If Porn Pros sticks to this niche on a couple of their sites, I would recommend it since they are coming from the typical hardcore, even sometimes extreme hardcore genre, but there's no telling with them since they just kind of sprung the softer hardcore on members with no warning. I'm guessing they will stop shooting it without warning too or start a separate site that requires a separate membership to access.
I've heard the most good about X-Art, but as I've told the others, their models hold them back for me since I still don't care for the tiny, slim models as my only option.
I guess I will have to eventually try X-Art out. I wish they would get a few more ethnic or exotic models. And watered down was my feeling exactly with Sex Art. There were a few scenes that showed potential. One is a threesome with Malena Morgan, she masturbates while watching a guy/girl have sex then gets involved right near the end. There was maybe a little feeling of domination from that scene since the girl with the guy was trying to keep his attention on her, but he kept looking at Malena. Another that has Riley Reid in it is very good.
I still think most men would be shocked if they knew open women. The 4 women all work in the psychology field and discuss nearly everything openly. I sometimes think they're bigger pervs than the men I know.
It's kind of funny. I always wanted this genre and thought Viv Thomas Videos was the closest to pulling it off on a regular basis, but two months of Sex Art, has made me reconsider if I would really want this type of porn on a regular basis. I still haven't tried X-Art, but a lot of that is based more on me not seeing enough models that interest me on their site since it does look like they have a style I would like. The other problem with the niche is probably one that porn always has. Once one site does a niche well, you get dozens more trying to mimic it and you either get tired of it or the sites go overboard with the niche.
I have always found those 18-22 aged models cute, pretty, but it's just so rare to find any of them who make me believe they could get guys to have sex with them with anything beyond just their looks. Which is also why I thought Viv Thomas pulled this niche off well. Most of his models are mid to late 20s Euro models, but even with his site, I haven't been on it in a few years.
I like some scenes that show the woman in power and control. It could be just from years of watching Euro hardcore porn where the woman is rarely if ever in control or it could go into my own personal life where I've always just been too big physically for women to even fool with trying to be dominant with me. Where this site struggles in creating that is some of the women aren't that attractive to me, both in looks and attitude. I would like to see a site do this same niche, but have the woman seduce, then humiliate the man by making him do anything she says...to her. I had been most impressed with Reality King's CFNM Secret in creating the niche I am describing. A big part of these niches that focus on giving women the control, is my wife watching it since she has two things working against sexual control with me. She was raised in a country where all women are taught to be submissive and she loves the CFNM sites. If anything, I think Divine Bitches tries to break too much ground.
And I agree about Kink's sites having problems with being too polished, but I probably wouldn't be comfortable with the content if it was much harder and less planned or more abusive.
I was also thinking the same thing about the guys being bi. I made a similar complaint in my Sex Art review though a completely different genre. I think as these sites move into the future they are going to realize they're going to have to up the believability, as in, it doesn't convince me it's a big deal for a bi man to take another man's cumshot or in Sex Art's case, to have a sensitive, effeminate male act sensitive.
The Men In Pain site is a little more femdom and comes with this one. I also thought the women were more feminine on it and it did make those more believable. Especially Jasmine Byrne, she's such a dainty, tiny woman. It was pretty believable she could make a man take her punishment just to be with her.
I will confirm here that there have been issues with the thumbnails. My membership ran out yesterday and I had blank thumbnails off and on throughout the membership. It isn't as bad to a collector like me who knows which models content they want and don't need the thumbnails, but to anyone else, it would be extremely frustrating.
I try to keep my PC's HDD as clear as possible. I picked about 50%, but it's well over that.
1.44 TB free of 1.81 TB. I mostly use externals and just move content to the PC, temporarily, that I plan on watching.
I tried this site out for a month while a member on another Kink site. If you're looking for different than the norm, this is the place to start. You also get a bonus subscription to Men in Pain. Everything is the same as it is on other Kink sites. I didn't download all the scenes on Divine Bitches, but I do believe every scene has the HD option on videos. The pictures are separated into chapters which will always be an annoyance with Kink sites.
I know at least one member has mentioned Ashley Fires. She has quite a bit of content on here. Men in Pain has the very underrated Jasmine Byrne in ways most porn fans have never seen her. Really, the majority of this content is going to be different than nearly everything you've seen.
A bit of a warning ahead of time. There are what I would consider extreme cuckold scenes blended in. I'm still not real familiar with the depth of the cuckold genre, but I have always liked the sites that do what I guess is a lesser version of cuckold, where the husband watches his wife have sex. On this site, there are some of those, but there are also some where the husband is forced to give the wife's lover a blowjob and/or take the cumshot. So things could be going to an extreme there. These scenes are limited to the Divine Bitches site. Men in Pain is more along the lines of one on one femdom.
I can't say I would recommend it unless you're into the genre. For me, it was okay since I do like the dominant female scenarios. It goes well beyond the mainstream porn world though. Definitely one that you will want to look at the preview of before joining. A big positive for me was the models. Outside of a couple of Kink sites, you won't find a lot of well-known models, but Divine Bitches has quite a few. Lots of Isis Love on both sites for fans of Isis too.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Met Art going hardcore, kind of, maybe.
- As would be expected, the pictures are excellent quality, but there are some sets with excessive blur, also happens on Met sometimes.
- The videos are romantic takes on sex. Not for sure if I should have put that in the cons or pros. Will further in BL.
- The models are all attractive and especially so if you like the slimmer build models.
- Very good DL speeds.
- Original themed series scenes.
- Navigation is good, but I'm going to guess it's just because the site isn't that big yet. I expect this navigation will be a real pain in the ass in a few years.
- Videos and picture sets combined have at least 1 update per day on average.
Cons:
- Careful what you wish for. Normal sex doesn't always translate into erotic.
- I honestly have trouble keeping up with, figuring out the different series'. Will further this too in BL.
- 2 months as a member and I will be keeping 4 videos and all of the photo sets. Pretty much the same pattern I have on Met-Art.
- Model variety would be a major plus. Pretty, white and slim is good, but it sure gets repetitive.
- Passion is "eh" believable.
Bottom Line:
I was one of the ones with very high expectations on this site and was lucky enough to get the first promo they sent out which gave 2 months access for $19.95. I don't feel ripped off at all, but as my previous comment said, I don't get it.
It's probably the last thing Met-Art wants to hear, but I prefer the photos to videos on Sex Art. I'm going to try and break the site down into sections so it's clear.
They have your basic video scenes. Just like Met, they give each scene a name so this can be a bit confusing when you add in the scenes that make up a series.
There are 60 of these as of 9/14/2012. The types of scenes:
Boy/girl: 18
Girl/girl or all girl: 23
The rest are solo.
My first problem. As you can see, the boy/girl group is the smallest of the three. When I hear hardcore, I still consider it boy/girl. Second problem, some of this goes into a realm of artsy that I couldn't imagine being interested in. The two examples off the top of my head, a man and woman full body-painted like tigers, having sex in a jungle themed room. One with the women in "chrome" from head to toe. You lost me at nude sex covered with paint and chrome.
Second group of scenes are in the series "Girls Love Sex". And just to keep it under some theme, there are 20 scenes in each season. Yep seasons. Like a television show. They have finished season 1 and 2, but season 3 hasn't started. So there are 40 scenes here. Now don't expect these to be much about sex. It's different models talking, some teasing and very light masturbation. Most of these scenes are less than 5 minutes.
Problem here? Watched 10 and swore to never download one again. These remind me more of Behind the Scenes sets on other sites, just repackaged as it might be porn.
Should be noted, August season is listed as "coming soon August". It's mid-September and there's nothing new.
Third group is Kamikaze Love, which is a full movie or a continuous series, hell I don't know, but I do know it says "New episodes every week" but there hasn't been a new scene added in this section since July.
This is a problem to me because I've got two sections of scenes that aren't updating, so I don't know if they just tanked the ideas or what. Either way the Girls Love Sex and Kamikaze Love are both disappointing to me.
So back to the main section of scenes. These scenes are okay. If you like the softer hardcore, you might be into these, but it's all a little too lovey dovey for my taste in porn. I'm all for passion and cutting back on the abusive scenes, but most of this just jumped to the opposite pole of the abusive porn.
The pictures, just like with Met-Art, are the best part. You get three sizes of zips to choose from. I'm basing these numbers off the newest photo set added, 1024x683 (small) 2048x1365 (medium) and 5616x3714 (large).
The videos are HD with decent bitrate and are relatively short in duration, so the files at least aren't huge. The ones I have watched are nice and clear.
It just seems to be trying to be too many different things. Like the old saying, jack of all trades, master of none. I thought for sure there was going to be something kinky in the Girls Love Sex series since some of the titles go into bondage subjects, but it was just the model talking about bondage.
I was expecting something groundbreaking, but I hate saying this, two women or three women being passionate with each other isn't new. The top Euro sites (21Sextury, DDF, Viv Thomas, Sapphic Erotica) have been filming passionate girl/girl scenes and solo scenes for years. This leaves Sex Art with less than 20 of the more rare, but not unheard of passionate boy/girl scenes. These scenes make up 1/5 of their current total videos. Is it possible that Met overhyped this site and built too high of expectations? Sure.
I have 4 close female friends, who are open to porn, but they say they despise the very hardcore scenes on many sites. After watching a few of the scenes from Sex Art, they all, not one, but all four said something to the effect of "It's too soft". I was just making sure I wasn't being a pig. A few of the scenes are really good.
I have no idea why the solo scenes are on here. The models on here aren't noted as top solo models, though Malena Morgan does a good job in her scenes. I don't know, maybe they should consider older female models? I don't remember 18-22 year old girls being very sensual. I also think they could work on the male talent. The most recent male is so effeminate, I had to look at the pictures to make sure it wasn't another girl/girl scene. You're not reinventing the wheel by having obviously sensitive, passionate people have sensitive, passionate sex.
I'll try it again in a year or two and give the 80 as a benefit of the doubt since it's Met, but also notice the numbers, the amount of no longer updating sections and decide if the photos and small amount of boy/girl scenes are enough to warrant a subscription.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Women wrestling, clothed, partially clothed and nude. One of Kink's oldest sites.
- Has more content than I'll ever get to.
- Tag team live matches in front of a crowd are some of my favorite scenes in all of pornland.
- Working Isis Love in as ref and extra strap-on is a great idea. I could just watch her walk around.
- Scripted and non-scripted are very subjective words, but I will give them credit for being the most physical of the wrestling sites.
- Nice photo sets, but see the cons and BL for more on this.
- Download speeds are usually extremely good, but there was one day of 1/20th regular download speed and just today the site had a few maintenance issues.
- Dragon Lily. It's not just a site with her on it, but she's a real star here. One of the sexiest, curvy, Asian/Pacific Islander models I've ever seen.
- Get a discount to most of their other sites while a member, believe it's $19.95 on each one you add.
Cons:
- Site design. This doesn't just apply to Ultimate Surrender, but most of the Kink sites I've been on. Have a membership to two right now and both suffer from the same problems.
- Trying to find a balance. I've competed in martial arts, Greco Roman wrestling and mixed martial arts. Dragon Lily really stands out here because she seems to be very skilled in grappling and flexibility. The combination of athleticism and sexy is perfect with her. A lot of the matches end up being more like foreplay for a lesbian porn scene.
- And those mutli-zip photo sets. There is a reason and defined reason for this, round 1, round 2, round 3, round 4, but each one is only 10-20 MB and requires multiple clicks to download each. I have a round downloaded before I can get back and start another round's zips downloading.
Bottom Line:
I like Kink sites as a diversion for me. I've almost always liked only glam sites, solo sites, but Kink has me convinced they are "good guys" when it comes to hard, dominating sex and they are perfect for me when I start getting bored with the softer porn.
I do stay frustrated with the site design and the way the photo zips work. Kink does listen so I'm hoping they at least will consider this. To download one match's photos you have to go through this process, click on photos, click on which round, there are 4 rounds in each match, click on download zip, back click, click on round 2, click download, back click, click on round 3, click on download, back click, click on round 4, click download, back click. That's 12 clicks to get one full match's photos. If I'm wrong for complaining about that have Dragon Lily and Isis Love punish me!
This click-a-thon does make the photo sets less appealing to me. Maybe put a full set download link? Or how about even a little zip icon beside each round? Full set would allow one click downloading. Zip icon beside each would be 4 clicks. I could put up with 4, but 12 is just frustrating. Though not applying directly to this site, I've also seen other Kink sites using this multiple click per photo set download.
The site itself is believable to a point. Some of the girls look like they are giving their all to win a match, others look like they just want to lose and have sex. Dragon Lily, Isis Love are both very competitive in it and both are also funny. Sorry Lily, but you telling a woman, "You cannot cum yet" is funny to me and strangely, kind of cute.
The live matches are the standouts. These do seem to be a little less realistic from a competitive view, because they allow double teams, which are always fun. I won't criticize the site for being scripted though. Girls do get injured. Some matches stopped because of injury even.
Where the site succeeds the most. Quality, quantity and hard lesbian sex. I have always had problems watching the harder boy/girl scenes with slapping, but it's pretty hot when it's two sweating, naked women. I do now understand the scoring better than I did on my last review of this site and can see how they are trying to create a real athletic competition with erotic additions.
Video quality can be varied and confusing, which goes back to site design. These are the options on newer ones, Most Compatible (wmv), Highest Quality HD (mp4), Smaller Screens iPod, iPad (mp4), Windows Media HD (wmv). Some of the times, I have downloaded the most compatible option and gotten mid level wmv files in the 720x480 range. So I finally just selected Highest Quality mp4 and it will remember that from scene to scene, but because the site has so much content on it, some of the scenes highest quality mp4 is 640x360. That can be frustrating since on those, the wmv is usually 720x480. It would probably be way too much of a pain to list the resolution beside of each, but it should be mentioned since you have to check each file to see if you got the best quality one available for that scene.
Search could be improved. If you go to "All Seasons" there are 8 listed previous seasons, but they have started season 10. Most of all though, I would love to see an option to just select the live scenes, but it's not here unless I'm overlooking something. I instead go through the updates looking for ones I can see a crowd in. Sounds easy enough, but each page only lists 7 shoots and the live ones are released by round, so you have to dig even more to find the full live scenes and if you want the pictures to those, it's back to looking for each round. Why the full scene video download doesn't have a full scene photo zip download doesn't make much sense.
The Kink sites I have been on all have these different problems with photo sets being split up to maybe tell a story or make sure if you're not OCDC, you will be. The design and frustration has lowered my score from a 90 a few years ago, but if you're not interested in the photos, the score would be in the lower 90s.
Using my most basic method of figuring up how much content, I'm going to multiply the number of pages of updates multiplied by how many scenes per page. There are 84 pages of updates, 7 scenes per page, so that's 588, but the live ones are split, so the number isn't that high. The site has updates dating back to 2004, they update every week.
The live scenes are what brings me back though. Having Isis being more active as a ref, joining in the sex part has really helped the site. Her performance as an unknowing spectator in one live scene is my personal favorite scene of my porn collection.
It's different, it's the hardest lesbian content I've found and it even has some genuine laughs in it. Once you get beyond the site design problems and search issues, you have one of the most original sites on the internet. Recommended to those who are looking for something different and lesbian fans.
I joined it earlier through the PU newsletter and have unlimited access. I've downloaded 28 photo sets and 12 HD videos in about 2 hours of being a member with no cutoffs. I know the one person said it's limited to 3 and 3 and I wouldn't say he's lying or it didn't happen to him, but it's working fine for me without any limits. Even is topping out my download speed which is becoming very rare these days.
Lets show how weird I can be. I sometimes find myself liking the mosaic. I don't know why. Maybe it makes it more taboo than showing everything or feels like a tease, so I picked it's frustrating. And so are teasing women.
Sorry about the delay messmer, might have been able to save your "go back to old site" link.
It seems VB has now pushed the old site's link off the VB3 page, but if you don't clear your cookies, it could still be there. I don't know if maybe they did it because of people joining through the old site. If you joined through the old site you could add Evil Angel and Vivid channels for $10 each, making a membership to VB, Evil Angel channel and Vivid channel equal $32. Now when you join through VB3, Evil Angel is $15, Vivid is $15, so it's $42 instead of $32 to get that combination. But I had no option to go back to the old site after running CCleaner. I'm at the point where I would rank Videosz a little higher than VB after they took away the old site.
That's alright on the humor part. I must not have caught the GB on it, meant MB. I do prefer the smaller videos and rarely download the HD versions just to save space. While I have quite a bit of space, it's starting to become a hassle trying to keep up with the different hard drives and what is on each one. I used to have a huge collection compared to most, but most of the newer PUs here are blowing me away in hard drive space, servers, I'm still under 10 TB total.
Hey Denner, was checking out my older folders from Only Cuties. The models have very little overlap with In Focus and the scenes are very similar, softcore-midcore masturbation, strip and some boy/girl. The models are the slimmer, younger style, but I always thought it was really good.
Skin is my favorite newer model, but I haven't downloaded anything of her on Evil Angel yet, but will now. I didn't even realize Sandy was on there, putting her in a scene with Skin sounds too good to be true!
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