Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Some variety of JM Productions series’
- Membership gives you discount ($13.95 versus $29.95) at Gag Factor
- Updates (but not on any obvious schedule)
- Streaming available
- Downloads available
- Supports download managers (no obvious time-out issues)
- Bills through CCBill
Cons:
- Terrible video quality in older files, barely passable in newer
- Small site
- Not part of a network
- No access to many series and titles
- Heavy reliance on Behind-the-scenes material (which to some may be a positive)
- Updates are irregular, but never frequent
- Only one video file option
- Not good value for the monthly subscription ($19.95)
- A lot of overlap with other JM Productions sites
- No search function
- Very basic layout
- No screencaps or other pics
Bottom Line:
Jerkoff Zone sells itself as the official JM Productions (JMP) site. For those who don’t know JMP, they are known for their extreme hardcore material. Think Max Hardcore toned down just a bit. They’re known for such series as American Bukkake, American Gokkun, Young & Anal, Tough Love and Gag Factor. I’m a big fan of most of their work and the site’s intro page listed all the series that I liked, so I presumed I’d have some decent access to that material. It turns out that the site over promises and under delivers. They can’t be accused of false advertising because there are scenes from all the series they mention on the site, but most are not well represented. Take the “Young and Anal” series which has about 40 editions now (assuming four scenes per edition makes that roughly 160 scenes) and the site offers just two scenes from this series. That’s the worst it gets, but it doesn’t really get much better with the other series. Take American Bukkake – this is a groundbreaking series and really has no competition in the American market. There are 40 editions, with usually two scenes per movie. The site offers four scenes. American Gokkun? Of the 10 editions (20 scenes) produced, two are on the site. You get the picture.
I might not have as much to complain about if the video quality was good, but it isn’t. Back in late 2008 the site started offering “high quality” video for both download and streaming, though the streaming is lower quality than the video. Even in 2008, though, the quality was barely up to industry standards. In 2011 it is woefully inadequate. The best resolution on the site is 720x480 @ 2000kbps. Those are rare though. More common is 720x480 @ 1500 and 640x480 @1500. Videos posted before January 2008 (maybe 40%) are virtually unwatchable at 320x240@ 460 and even as low as 235kbps. There are no options for downloads either – just the one WMV file. One good thing is that Free Download Manager worked flawlessly.
The site layout is very basic. The main page is broken down in to several sections: videos, BTS scenes, “Travels with Ashley Blue and trailers.
The video page opens to a page with all the videos. They are sorted by upload date and not by DVD title. There is no option to sort them in any other way. There are approximately 180 videos posted, with 40% of those being poor resolution. The “Travels with Ashley Blue” is just four links to a handful of photos of Ms. Blue touring porn shops. The BTS section has about 70 BTS scenes from various titles. Then there are trailers for other JMP DVDs. So for the $20 fee all you really get is maybe 100 watchable porn scenes. The site relies too much on filler like BTS and trailers and markets them as if they have real value to a consumer. They can be interesting, but they aren’t what people join for.
The site claims to update “every couple of days” and that might be true, but the update is more likely to be a BTS or trailer than an actual scene.
When I joined I was offered a $13.95 discounted price to another JMP site, Gag Factor. I took that option and as it is sold as a stand-alone site I’ll post a review of that later. I have no way of knowing if the discount is a standard offer. I’ll give full credit to the site for not making this a pre-checked cross-sell.
The biggest disappointment about this site for me is that is mostly a wasted effort. JMP makes excellent porn. The production values are good, they use top female talent and they have some of the more innovative niche series out there. They are also a prolific studio and must have hundreds of titles to their credit. But they continue in the tradition of studios not putting much effort into their websites. The site offers only a fraction of the material that the studio has, it offers it in poor quality and on a site that looks like it took them an hour to put together. It seems to me that a poor effort like this would reflect badly on the whole studio. I have no idea why JMP would have such a poor internet site. They do offer a lot more on VOD sites, so maybe they push that to make more money. If that’s the case, then the website is just a large advertising site that people pay money for. If that’s the case, I guess I’ve been had. At least they bill through CCBill so I know I can cancel easily. They also heavily push DVDs, which seems odd to me. Are they living in a time warp?
If they offered much more of their catalogue at good resolutions this could be a good value at even twice the price. As it stands though, this isn’t a good value at the current price.
Should you join this site? If you’re a huge JMP fan then give it a try, knowing that it isn’t a very good site. If you want to dabble in some unique JMP stuff, you’re better off just giving them your money at a VOD site or finding a DVD at your local shop, which is probably what they want anyway.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Diabolic is one of the best studios around
- Access to about half of their titles
- Several updates a week
- File sizes are large and look good
- Download speeds are on par with the competition (but file sizes are significantly larger)
Cons:
- The website appears to have undergone a major re-work, and it is either really buggy or is still under development
- Videos all stutter, sometimes it really detracts from the scene
- Many dead links
- No obvious support for customers – three tries to contact them got nothing
- Some scenes are missing from movies
- Many scenes have watermarks, some are small, some have watermarks that are huge and block a good portion of the screen
- No star name associated with many scenes
- Notwithstanding the many dead links, only about half or less of the Diabolic library is online
Bottom Line:
This is my second time taking a membership at Diabolic. It appears that they may be undergoing a major re-work. I can’t say that for sure because my three emails for support were never replied to. I deduced the re-work theory from comparing the current site to the most recent review.
The biggest problem (assuming they are in the middle of a major overhaul) is that the site just isn’t ready for public use yet. Most of the older scenes I specifically joined to get have dead links. At the time I joined around 40% of the links were dead. (I didn’t test all of them, but I noted that every movie that shows it has had zero downloads has dead links, so I counted all the zero download movies.)
If the site is being overhauled, maybe some of the above will be fixed. Regardless of that though, there are some larger issues. I download the wmv versions, which are all large and look generally great. They are listed as HD. But they all (yes, all) have these annoying stutters. Sometimes it isn’t too bad, but other times it can get really annoying. Some of the stutters can last a few seconds.
I’m also not a fan of the site navigation. Each page shows 12 DVDs that are available. You select one that you want and that loads a page that shows the scenes in that movie. Under each scene are the options to watch it online, download it, or build you own. Hitting any of those options will bring you to another page (that frequently crashes) where you select how you want to do what you want to do. As in how do you want to view or download the file. Maybe I’m, being fussy, but having to drill down through three pages to download the file seems like one page too many. Maybe I’m just being fussy because I’m frustrated with all the other problems.
I have no idea why the site is as bad as it is. Maybe Diabolic is in its final days like someone here suggested (I hope not) or maybe they just don’t put the effort into web sales because they don’t see them as important. It seems to me that web sales are the future. I haven’t rented or bought a DVD in two years – everything is online now. I’m sure I’m not the only person who finds the web a more convenient place to get my porn. If so, Diabolic has to get in the game better than this. Adding to this concern is that Diabolic is updating the site a few times a week, but there are still well over a hundred titles that have never been added.
Diabolic has been one of my favorite studios for years. I really hope that they resolve the problems with their website because without it they’ll have no place in the online porn market.
And in the past I took it as a positive sign that the webmaster responded to concerns. Not so any more. Twice I contacted them through normal channels, and once through the email here at PU. Nothing in the two weeks since.
My recommendation is to avoid Diabolic until we have some assurances that the problems are fixed.
Excellent review, as usual. I had pretty much given up on NS. I keep a running Word table of memberships and the last time I joined was in 2018 and I made a note that it probably wasn't worth going back for at least a year because of slow updates.
You've caused me to rethink this and I'll check them out again soon.
I must have missed the bit of vaginal sex, but you can count me as one of the members who prefers anal here. The scenes lend themselves to it.
I will say that as much as I like Dom the Nation, and I like it a lot as should be evident in the review, Assylum is definitely still my favourite. But as someone who likes both BDSM and scenes filmed outdoors, Dom the Nation can't be beaten.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on my review. I try to keep my reviews objective but sometimes subjectivity can creep in, as it may have here. I don't think anyone will be surprised to know that I really like your sites. There really isn't anything else quite like it. It isn't for everyone, but I think you're innovation and craftsmanship deserve to be acknowledged.
I'm a bit late replying to your comment but I hope you can use the information in any future transactions.
I've joined Gamma sites many, many times over the past years. All Gamma sites now use in-house billers. Famecare is one of those.
I have never had an issue with any of these billers in all the times i use them.
You should know that they can be a bit of a pain in the ass when you want to cancel. It's no big deal though. Rather than taking 30 seconds to cancel as with Epoch or CC Bill it might take a minute.
I'll continue to use Gamma billers without any concerns.
Excellent review. Thanks for sharing this. I'm a big fan of these sites too (Blacked, Blacked Raw, Tushy, etc.) though as Trump2020 points out the new downloads limits are a bit frustrating.
Yeah, I'm not counting HUHS as being back among the living just yet. There have been four updates since February 13 though the pace does appear to have increased to a new scene every two weeks. I hope they are still offering the $50 annual membership when I decide to rejoin.
Nope, you are right. I joined there a few months ago and was surprised too. Gamma seems to be on a real buying spree these days. I'm not opposed to this because with everything going on (pandemic, Only Fans / Manyvids, privacy, etc.) it may be that only mega-studios like Gamma and Mindgeek survive.
(Though I hope smaller sites like Amateur Allure and Hookup Hotshot survive and thrive too.)
Don't worry about it! My review would have just re-stated what you said.
The porn niche of MILF is odd. First, there seems to be a stock definition of someone who has large breasts, real or fake. I like that FTV has a broader definition. Frankly, I'm not really a fan of the whole MILF designation. Who cares? If a beautiful woman wants to do porn I don't care what her age is. I tend to lean to younger models primarily because many of those have the smaller breasts / petite body that I like. But there are so-called MILFs that I still love too. Remember Tara Ashley? She had a short career and started in her early 30s. She even was cast in some teen-themed stuff. Models like Dani Jensen and Marie McCray will always cause me to hit the download button, regardless of their age.
Besides, just because a model is 20 doesn't mean she has to be petite. Gabbie Carter is a big deal these days and while I see the star quality in her, her body type isn't what I usually watch.
Porn classifications are strange and we can't change them.
FTVX has been teased for so long that it's probably just a unicorn now. There are a few hardcore scenes at FTV Girls. Those started as teasers for the new site which was promised to be coming soon. That was maybe five years ago. The really strange thing is that the guy who owns the site could make a ton of money by going ahead with it. But then again, he's probably in the 1% just on FTV Girls alone.
One thing I do miss is the more risque public shoots at FTV Girls. They still exist but are more guarded now. The site owner wound up in legal trouble for one particular scene. Unfortunately that scene is no longer available.
I might regret writing this and drawing the ire of some, but it's odd that it's completely illegal for a couple of models to flash their breasts discretely in a store but it's legal for someone to walk in with a loaded handgun.
I recall Sally Struthers once lamenting that if a movie depicted a man cutting off a woman's nipple it got a PG rating. If it depicted a man kissing a woman's nipple it got an R Rating.
Excellent review! Coincidentally, I was starting to write a review of this site as well but that doesn't make sense since you've covered everything and your comments are very close to what I was writing.
I agree that the whole "MILF" thing here is stretched a bit. My preference is for younger models so while I have been a FTV Girls fan and regular subscriber for a long time this was my first time joining FTV MILFS. What drew me in was that many of these supposed MILFs are in their 20s and very beautiful. I'm glad I joined.
Like you, the fact that the videos are broken down into clips has caused me problems too. I'd guess that the first few times I joined and rejoined FTV Girls it took me a while to discover/remember that these were in clips. It is confusing though I suspect the FTV sites have a lot of recurring subscribers so this isn't an issue for them.
There has been a third FTV site that's been teased over the past several years. It's called FTVX. Apparently Rob, the site owner, has some hardcore scenes with some of the models and he had been teasing a full site for these but nothing has ever come of it. That seems odd to me as it could be very lucrative for him.
I don't have any advice to offer you but if it's any consolation, I've been there before too. I suspect that a lot of us have been there whether we'd admit it or not. I got badly burned and had to cancel a card just to get the recurring charges stopped.
Oddly, and I don't know why this is, but the bank/CC company wouldn't do what was likely easier for everyone - block that charge going forward. Their position was that I authorized it once and therefore I authorized charges in perpetuity regardless of the fact that I was telling them different.
After that incident, I refuse to give my CC number to a biller I don't know and trust. If I do want to join a site with an unknown biller I buy a gift card with a sufficient amount on it to cover the cost. It's more expensive but it's also safer. I did that once with a site/biller that I had burned me in the past and I watched as they tried to charge me for subsequent months all while ignoring my emails to cancel. The card didn't have sufficient balance on it to cover what they wanted but they tried over and over and over.
Fuckers.
Good luck with this. Let us know how you make out.
I didn't know that Bang Bros was in any way affiliated with Bang and the Vixen Group.
I've joined Bang multiple times and I recall that Epoch is their usual biller, but I can't say for certain that they use Epoch all the time.
Vixen Group (Vixen, deeper, Tushy, Tushy Raw, Blacked and Blacked Raw) are some great sites but if you've been lured into a subscription you don't want then it doesn't matter how good they are. The usually use their own biller, VXN Bill. It's not a preferred biller for me, but I don't think I've ever had a serious issue with them.
I had seen some Twitter threads from performers who spoke about some of their experiences with Ryan. What's odd is that his wife is part of the business too and she has to be complicit in letting her husband prey on these young women. And as I said before, agents were implicated too.
Thanks! I have to admit that I like the fact that this turned into a real competition. The real winner is PU for getting a huge influx of reviews and that's great to help the site keep going.
Tom - just a reminder, and the reminders from above reminded me of this, I'm in Canada so a gift card to Amazon.ca is preferred.
As for the missing scenes, the recent allegations against the site owner / male talent (Ryan Madison) may have something to do with this. The allegations are he plied models with drugs and alcohol (some of whom were under legal drinking age) and also or because of the drugs and alcohol did things without consent. Internal cumshots being a big one.
To make matters worse, not that this isn't bad enough, the allegations are than many shady agents knew exactly what they were sending the models into and did nothing about it.
The lack of model listing is odd. Why, why, why leave out a simple but important piece of information such as that? And it isn't even consistent across the network.
Interesting review. I had read that Brazzers was removing videos and that makes no sense to me. It isn't like they are freeing up server space. A lot of us join some sites to get older scenes.
I haven't been a member at Brazzers in several years and I doubt I'll be back. Part of that, admittedly, is that the models they have aren't those I normally collect. Sure, they have some young, petite models, but their stock-in-trade is more buxom than I prefer.
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