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Bang.com
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Reply of
exotics4me's Reply
My experience turned out like your - Bang stepped in quickly and solved the problem. They determined that a third party had hacked my previous account and took out a new membership. They cancelled that account and refunded the charges. I have to say that I'm pretty happy with the customer service they provided.
I hope that my issue is solved but since I'm tangled up with ECHST too it may not be over yet.
Good luck with getting your refund.
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08-30-18 08:53am
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Bang.com
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08-28-18 06:15pm
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Bang.com
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exotics4me's Comment
I think I may have spoken too soon when you reported problems with your Bang.com account. I seem to have the same problem now.
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08-28-18 06:08pm
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404
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My Sister's Hot Friend
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standard's Review
My guess was that NA would collapse under the sheer stupidity of this new billing practice by now. But apparently they think they can fleece more people. Thanks for posting this cautionary tale.
I second standards motion that PU staff please do deactivate any of the Naughty America pages here. Yes, they are a company that none of us should do business with these days, but the best way to communicate that is to keep these pages up. I understand that a lot of new people have joined PU recently and this might help some of them understand how great PU/TBP is and how they can contribute to make it even better. I'm sure all of us prefer to see great reviews of great sites, but it's important that we can still write great reviews of sites we should all avoid (at least until they see the light and end this nonsense.)
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08-28-18 01:19pm
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405
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N/A
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Reply of
yujin's Poll
I tend to look for current big-name stars when considering joining a new site, but site layout is also important. But the models can be a giveaway that the site is just peddling rehashed scenes. I've visited many sites over the years that advertise themselves as new but the tour pages indicate that the scenes they have are with models who retired years earlier.
The number of scenes really isn't a factor for me. If the site offers something I really like then the value proposition skews in favour of joining even if the site is relatively small. I'll choose quality over quantity every time.
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08-28-18 01:15pm
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406
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Boy Crush
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careylowell's Reply
That makes a lot of sense. I've heard of women who do porn to increase their earnings as a stripper. Having porn as a background can probably earn both men and women a lot more money in other parts of the sex industry.
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08-26-18 04:39am
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407
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Boy Crush
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merc77's Reply
Similar things occur in straight porn too. A model recently joined the industry and was rocketing to the top and then quit suddenly. She admitted that she was lesbian and didn't like doing b/g scenes. That makes sense. It's probably common too that female stars who aren't into women do g/g scenes for the money.
I recall that Peter North did gay porn to start. I doubt he is the only guy who got his start that way.
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08-21-18 01:26pm
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408
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Boy Crush
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merc77's Review
Something I've been curious about with gay sites - what do you think the prevalence is of straight guys doing this just for the money? I'm guessing that with more acceptance of gay people that this would be less than it was even a few years ago, but it seems to me that it could still be lucrative for some young guy looking to make some money. Any thoughts?
(Great review, BTW!)
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08-20-18 03:41pm
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409
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Exotic 4K
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antonp's Comment
That seems to be a change. I joined this site maybe two years ago now and was given the same offer of additional sites for a year for $70USD. But in my case I recall it was very clear that I would be joining. Not that this helps, but that membership was a really good value. I had access to a lot of quality sites for a full year.
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08-19-18 02:57pm
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410
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Public Disgrace
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exotics4me's Reply
Thanks for the detailed reply. Porn Doe has been on my radar for a while now but I've never joined it. This will probably be what pushes me off the fence. One thing that always bugged me about that network is that their tour pages are terrible. But that's common these days. But having a trusted source say that a membership is worth considering is a big help.
I am overdue for a rejoin at Kink too so I think I'll do that too. I've been holding off on a Kink rejoin because earlier this year I did a major reorganization of my collection and I deleted a lot of Kink stuff just because I never watched it. But Public Disgrace is one of their sites where I kept most of what I've downloaded over the years.
(As an aside, I really wish they'd bring back Water Bondage...)
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08-19-18 02:54pm
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411
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True Anal
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Jay G's Reply
At least you've proved that it's possible though. I just cancelled both a Swallowed and True Anal subscription billed through Customercare.co and while I definitely would prefer a self-serve portal I did get a confirmation email that both were cancelled.
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08-19-18 02:48pm
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412
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yujin's Poll
This may not be entirely on point and may be some latent OCD on my part, but I find it distracting when the model leaves her high-heeled shoes on and fucks on furniture where those heels could damage it. Think of the poor furniture people!
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08-19-18 02:46pm
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413
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yujin's Poll
Maybe once in a setting where that is expected and encouraged. I wouldn't want to push boundaries.
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08-14-18 02:32pm
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Public Disgrace
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Reply of
exotics4me's Review
This is a very thorough review. Thanks for writing it.
This has always been one of my favourite sites. I like the public niche and I'm not aware of any site that does much of it. Public Disgrace has certainly pushed the boundaries. (There are many examples, but one that I still watch regularly is where a model named Molly is in a large European city and is made to roam through traffic topless with her ankles bound and her panties down and offer windshield cleaning to people in cars. Insane!) You note that there are a few others. Can you let me know what those are?
Thanks!
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08-14-18 02:31pm
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True Anal
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Jay G's Reply
If you have any tips as to how you managed to join with Epoch I'd really appreciate hearing them. I need to cancel both my Swallowed and True Anal accounts and since both were billed through Customercare.co I had to email them and now I have to watch my email for confirmation that the accounts get cancelled. It's not even that I don't trust Customercare, it's just that I want self-service and immediate conformation that the account won't be rebilled.
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08-14-18 02:26pm
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True Anal
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Jay G's Reply
Like you, I'd much rather deal with CC Bill or Epoch but I've joined True Anal (and it's sister site Swallowed) many times and haven't had any trouble cancelling with Customercare.co. They don't have a self-serve portal like CC Bill or Epoch and that doesn't make a lot of sense from a cost perspective. The way to cancel is to just send an email. Usually within 24 hours I get a confirmation that my recurring billing has been cancelled. My complaints about Customercare.co are that they don't offer self-service but they aren't a shady biller like some others are. My advice is to just write yourself a reminder to email them a week or so before your membership is due to expire. That will give you lots of time to make sure the cancellation happened. I've always been able to continue to access the site after I cancel right up to the end of my membership.
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08-12-18 11:23am
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417
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True Anal
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mbaya's Review
Interesting review. This is one of my favourite sites. One thing that I find odd about this site is that on the DVDs that Mike had on Evil Angel (up until a couple of months ago when he was one of their stable of directors) about half of the scenes had the model rimming him. On his site Swallowed probably 90% of the videos have the model rimming him. But, at True Anal it's fairly rare that the model rims Mike. As a rimming and anal fan there doesn't seem to be any reason for this. Oh well... I just join Swallowed frequently to get my rimming fix and True Anal to cover my anal scene needs.
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08-12-18 11:17am
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418
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Daughter Swap
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mbaya's Reply
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll be interested to hear what you think of the site.
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08-12-18 11:04am
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419
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Wraith0711's Poll
Yes, it bothers me. I've stopped downloading scenes from once-favourite models after they get 'enhancements.' A rare exception was Aubrey Adams. I like her looks pre-enhancement but her breast implants were at least proportional so I continued to download her scenes.
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08-12-18 11:04am
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Review
420
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Daughter Swap
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95.0
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Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
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| Pros: |
- Innovative theme
- Believable scenarios
- A-list models
- High production values
- 82 scenes
- Updates regularly (1 or 2 weeks between updates)
- Three scene resolutions
- Photos available
- Supports download managers
- Fast download speeds |
| Cons: |
- Some of the male models are a bit young to be believable
- Could use a 720p resolution to close a wide gap
- No TBP discount
- No search function or model index
- No anal (yeah… that’s personal…) |
| Bottom Line: |
In the interest of full disclosure I should mention that this site has been one of my favourites since I first discovered it 16 months ago. I’ve joined it eight times. I’m confident I can write an objective review though. Let me put it this way – I like the site because the porn covers two of my favourite niches, which is subjective, but it is also a great site and it features high production values, which is objective when measured against other sites.
This site, which began in March 2016, offers some innovative porn unlike any other site I’ve seen. Every scene features two older men and two younger women. Each man plays the father of one of the women. The scene sets up some sort of reason why the fathers want to swap and have sex with the other father’s daughter. In this way, the site doesn’t follow the traditional script of quasi-incest porn. Two of my favourite niches in porn are older man/younger woman and scenes that spend some time setting up a sexual tension. A vast majority of the scenes here hit both of those targets.
I realize that not everyone is into the same things that I am and I understand that there are a lot of porn buyers who simply want to skip ahead to the action and would likely find some of these scenes boring. If you’re a big fan of Legal Porno which is pure gonzo then these scenes are not likely to be for you. But if you like scenario-based porn I strongly recommend looking at this site.
One of the advantages that the site has over other incest-themed sites is that the scenarios here are often more believable. One way that the scenarios can be more believable here are that many of the models are just wearing street clothes through the scene set up. Personally I like this. Each scene takes up to 15 minutes for the tension to build and for the reasons for the swap to be laid out. After that the scenes become pretty much standard boy/girl sex scenes.
Another advantage that this site has over some of its competitors in the incest-theme is that all of the female models here are believable in their roles. All of the models are between 18 and early 20s. Other sites sometimes use older models. Most of the scenes use age-appropriate male models though some of the scenes have men who aren’t really old enough to be the biological father of the model in the scene. For me this is a mere annoyance and not a deal-breaker. And speaking of models, most are either already A-list or rising stars.
More than half of the scenes on the site are split into two. I don’t view this as either a pro or a con. In one update we have the entire scene set up and then the sex scene between one father and daughter. The following update will have a recap of the first scene and then the sex scene between the second father and daughter pairing. The advantage to this is two full-length scenes while the disadvantage is you may have to wait to get the scene with your favourite model once you know she’s there.
The update schedule doesn’t seem to be set in stone. In some instances there will be a new scene added weekly but in others there is a two week gap. I don’t see this as a major issue considering that these scenes have very high production values and probably take a long time to shoot and edit. This is not mere gonzo porn.
There are currently 82 scenes available with each scene being offered in three different resolutions. Those are, 640x360 (850 bitrate), 960x540 (2700), 1920x1080 (12,000). One improvement that I think the site could make would be to plug the gap between the middle and highest resolutions with a 720p offering.
Photos are also available through this site is not really a photo site. Two resolutions are offered: 620x1081 and 900x601.
The site supports download managers and I found download speeds to constantly hit my maximum.
One serious oversight, especially as the site grows, is the lack of any search function or a model index. This, with a 720p option, would be easy to do and be a big improvement.
Unfortunately the site does not offer a TBP discount. I have my fingers crossed that could change in the future.
The site is affiliated with the Team Skeet group of sites. This means that you are dealing with a reputable business but also means that you will have to put up with some ads on the site.
My final complaint, and I realize this is entirely personal, is that there are no anal scenes at all. Surely when fathers swap their daughters in real life they occasionally do anal!
The appeal of this site is broad enough that I have no qualms about recommending it to a wide audience. At its core it is really just standard B/G porn which appeals to a lot of people. The advantage this site has is its unique theme, the effort they put into promoting that theme, the high production values, the decent acting and the hot models. My only complaints are so minor that I only included them to give a well-rounded view of the site. |
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08-10-18 09:23am
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421
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Reply of
yujin's Poll
Too many to name...
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08-07-18 02:27pm
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422
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N/A
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Reply of
Amanda's Poll
I'd vote all of the above and add in the comments by Jay, merc and yujin. All of those are deal-breakers.
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08-03-18 02:45pm
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423
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My First Sex Teacher
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Reply of
standard's Review
I figure that the new NA business model may be to fleece as many people as they can until the whole thing collapses and then they'll just shut it down. I'm being only slightly sarcastic here... Surely no one who has read anything about their new subscription model would even consider joining now. One downside that I can think of is that someone who has been into pirated porn finally decides to do the right thing and pay for it, joins this shitshow and figures every porn site is as much of a scam.
I had been a fan of and regular subscriber to NA for a long time but unless this gets reversed I won't be back.
On a positive note, this is a good example of the value of PornUsers - we're able to spread the word about scams like this.
Thanks for spreading the word, standard.
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08-02-18 02:50pm
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424
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N/A
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Reply of
Drooler's Poll
No. I'm boring. My files are named for the model(s) in the scene and placed in a folder labeled for the DVD or site.
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08-01-18 03:21pm
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425
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ATK Natural & Hairy
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Reply of
perversecult's Comment
I'd argue that any site that features hairy women has already hit rock bottom... :-)
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07-31-18 02:13pm
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