Thanks! Sounds like you found it a little disappointing too - I hope you'll do a review! More pressure we put on them the more likely it is they'll bring videos back - they've done it before!
They never make cancellation very clear but happily it's very easy. You deal with the billing company not the site itself.
When you joined you should have received an e-mail from them from either CCBill or Verotel, whichever you chose to use when you signed up.
If it's Verotel, the e-mail will be entitled "Your Receipt". Just click on the link in the e-mail, choose "Cancel a recurring subscription" and enter the username and password you use to access the site. Click to continue and it should show you the website name and ask if you're sure you want to cancel. Click on "Yes, cancel all future billing" and you're done - you should get an e-mail confirming it's cancelled.
If it's CCBill, the e-mail will be entitled "Confirmation of Subscription XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" with the Xs being one long number. Click on the link in the e-mail and enter how you paid (usually credit card) and then your e-mail address and the long subscription number called subscription ID. Click on search and then it should find it and you can cancel it. Again you should get a cancellation e-mail.
Hang on to your cancellation e-mails just in case there's any issues with them rebilling you, but it shouldn't happen.
If you've deleted your original e-mail, just visit either vtsup.com for Verotel and enter your login details for the site, or support.ccbill.com for CCBill and there you can search using your e-mail address and credit card number if you've forgotten your subscription ID.
You'll still have full access to the site until the end of the day your subscription ends, so make sure you download everything you want before then!
Thank you! It's a little different to my usual as it doesn't include much technical content, but as that's all in my previous review and this review was more of a description of what's changed and how the site has gone downhill and why, I thought this type of review was more appropriate than just repeating information already available in previous reviews.
I like to review sites like this as although not everyone is into them, they still appeal to more than just a gay audience and I hope I give a unique gay perspective on what is not a gay site.
Thanks for bothering to reply, it's always nice to know when a review is appreciated!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+ What video content there is, is VERY hot
+ Updates on average 2 - 3 times per week, though not consistently
+ Extensive user forum (though this is flawed)
+ As far I can tell, no regional billing
+ No DRM
+ Choice of two good billers - CCBill or Verotel
+ All-exclusive content
+ The only pure, true CFNM site I have yet found
Cons:
- Have gone back to being a picture-only site - as of August 6, 2012 no new videos have been uploaded at the time of this review. NO warning of this in preview, no explanation of why in-site.
- Pictures are good-quality, but downloading is a joke - no zip files, no collections - must download each picture one by one
- Very expensive ($39.95 1st month, $34.95 after), especially now no more videos
- Poorly-designed site with poor search functions, ancient design and a mess of a forum
- Forum is completely ignored by site management, no suggestions seem to be taken on board.
- Downloads and streaming the slowest I've ever seen on any site.
- $1.95 additional joining fee if using Verotel, never found that at any other site.
- Each story is split into many small scenes which constitute each update
- Many videos still unique to a sister-site - see below.
Bottom Line:
This is my third review. I am writing it with a heavy heart, because this site has so much potential and could easily be the best CFNM site ever, but it's taken yet another one of its abrupt policy reverses, so it's on entirely the wrong track again.
What I will say is that CFNM.net is, in my opinion, the only true CFNM site on the internet. The scenarios and stories are superb, the models incredible, the acting is good and believable - focusing purely on past content this site should be scoring my first ever 100.
So how did we get to 60 as a score for a site which can produce the best content ever?
Simply - they cannot decide what they want to be - a picture site, or a video site. They change their minds and their policies more often than the guys get naked!
CFNM.net has always described itself more as a picture site, and they have a "sister" site, CFNM.TV, which is supposed to be the video site. Sounds fair and straightforward - you want pictures, you join this site. You want the videos, you join CFNM.TV.
That could work, except CFNM.TV is a lousy video site, and CFNM.net is a lousy picture site.
CFNM.TV, according to the previews, hasn't been updated for months. It doesn't have all the the video content CFNM.net does, even though it's supposed to be the video site, and what is does have (some of which CFNM.net doesn't have) is riddled with the most intrusive, crappy DRM I've ever known which makes you log in to watch each video, won't work unless you use Windows, and means downloads stop working the second your subscription expires - you CANNOT download to keep.
As a picture site, CFNM.net is lousy because although the pictures are high-quality - well-lit and professional - for a so-called picture site they are a joke. You get one size only, the viewer is clunky, and you CANNOT download the photosets as one file - zipped or not. No, you have to click on each individual picture (and each story has hundreds), then click on the "download to computer" link and download each picture manually. This would take you weeks of painstaking work.
When I did my last review, CFNM.net seemed to be improving. CFNM.TV was active but seemed to be abandoned, with no new updates. The video updates were being uploaded to CFNM.net, and they were also uploading old footage previously exclusive to CFNM.TV but WITHOUT the DRM. I was hoping they were going to upload the CFNM.TV-exclusive stuff as "new" updates, then when they'd done it all, quietly close CFNM.TV.
Nope! When I left the site last July, I was almost done downloading the last of a video set. When I rejoined six months later, I downloaded the last couple of updates from that set and then found the entire six months worth of updates after that were photo-only. No mention of this in the preview, nothing on the site I can see about a change in policy - it's just back to photo-only.
However CFNM.TV seems to only have had one update with a video of some old CFNM.net content. So, we're back to two sites which between them have incredibly hot content, but which are so badly designed and run you can't satisfactorily access either.
CFNM.net has an extensive forum where these and my other complaints all as listed above are discussed - but from what I can see, nobody from the site itself ever answers or pays the slightest bit of attention to anything said on the forum. The forum is also practically a seperate site, which its own seperate log-in, no integration to the main site, and ancient layout.
I don't intend to go over the details of the site - it's all in my previous reviews, one of which is still active at the time of writing - and nothing has changed since.
Suffice it to say, if you've never joined this site before then I would strongly recommend you do, as it has some incredibly hot content - but then accept you will never know whether they ever intend to upload more videos again, that the photos are a complete pain in the ass to download, and that CFNM.TV is a joke.
If you have joined before, certainly in the last six months, then you will already have all the video content they're offering and even if you like photos, downloading them will be such a pain I don't think it's worth joining it again.
I will certainly be cancelling before auto-renew and I have already downloaded the two videos I wanted. Nothing else on the site is of interest.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
+ Well-performed, imaginative scenarios and stories
+ Choice of Verotel or CCBill for billing
+ Updates a minimum of once a week, often more
+ Good quantity of existing scenes
+ Has a user forum (though it's quirky)
+ No DRM
+ Good variety of models, both male and female, and most are good-looking
+ All content exclusive
+ True to the CFNM concept, unlike some sites
+ No regional billing as far as I can see
Cons:
- Very expensive ($39.95 1st month, $34.95 after)
- If you pay via Verotel, my preferred biller, there is a $1.95 one-off joining fee- unique to this site in my experience
- Update schedule can be a little erratic
- Movies split up into often short scenes - each one counts as an update
- Not all stories/scenarios are video - some are photoset-only. This include later updates - you never know which you'll get.
- Some videos only available on sister site CFNM.TV which costs the same again to join - no discounts, and they use DRM
- Site design is chaotic, with no real search functions. Forum requires seperate log-in and is very old-fashioned and difficult to navigate
- I found downloads and streaming slow
Bottom Line:
It's been a long while since I reviewed this site, and despite its flaws I keep going back to it, so new review time!
Not much has changed with the basic formula of the stories, which is a good thing. They continue to produce the best CFNM videos out there - imaginative, varied and fun with good-looking models, both male and female. This is true CFNM - the women's clothes stay on, always.
The site is varied in the type of CFNM it does - a bit of everything. CFNM takes two main forms - lighter, more fun CFNM where the male is more in control and admired by the clothed ladies, and darker, where it's more about humiliation and control of the men. CFNM.net tends to go more for the latter, but generally it's more humiliation than true hardcore - there is only a sprinkling of S&M scenes and even that tends to be on the lighter side. The site has a sense of fun and humour.
CFNM.net is a sister site to some gay sites though and this does sometimes show through - you'll see occasional gay sex between the naked models and insertions of dildos, vibrators and strap-ons is quite common. This may appeal more to gay men and possibly some straight women than straight men, though if you're a submissive straight man, or have a bi side, it might appeal.
In any case, it's pretty unique stuff and all of it is imaginative and well performed by generally hot models.
The downsides are largely the standard ones for this studio - downloads are pretty slow (I actually only realised this when I joined other sites from other studios and was astonished at how much faster the downloads were!), site design is basic and chaotic, with illogical layout and non-existent search functions making things unncessary complicated, and whilst the updates come at least once a week and often more, they're not done to a regular schedule.
Plus, the updates are scenes, not full movies. These are often pretty short - 10 minutes or less - and there can be a dozen of more of them to each movie. They tend to only update a couple of movies at a time, so if you don't care for a movie they're currently updating, it could represent half your updates for the next 2 - 3 months!
Technically the movies are about average - the latest, highest-quality WMV files are 960x540, 25f/ps with a bitrate arond 8,300 - though bitrate and size does seem to vary a little. WMV seems the only option, though you do get a selection of file sizes.
The photosets are a bit of a letdown for a site which focuses on pictures more than video - they're large (1100x600) but with only one size and no sets or zips - you download each picture one at a time! They also all have watermarks.
The biggest issue with this site, which has improved slightly but is still not fully resolved, is the photo/video issue. Some stories are photosets only, some have videos. At once point they announced no new videos would be made (see my seperate comment on this). They have since backtracked somewhat, but still some new stories are photoset only, so you never know which you'll get. There is also a horrible sister site called CFNM.TV which contains some of the videos this site only has photosets for, but it's the same price with no discount, uses intrusive DRM which expires downloaded videos when your membership expires, and is never updated.
They seem to have practically abandoned CFNM.TV, but it still exclusively holds some videos of photosets you see on CFNM.net. I have noticed they've started publishing older videos which were once only on CFNM.TV on CFNM.net, without DRM, though as new updates to CFNM.net. This is bit mean as they're not really new and they already publish the photosets, but at least you get to see and download the videos to keep this way without having to join yet another expensive site.
I HOPE they're planning to gradually transfer all CFNM.TV videos onto CFNM.net as "new updates" and then shut CFNM.TV down, but I don't know if they will. They seem to be going in the right direction, but are famous for abrupt policy changes so for all I know they could change their minds again! Once they said they wouldn't release any more of a story because some of it had been published on a file-sharing site, but again seemed to back-down in the face of customer complaints.
To be honest the content is so unique and hot I could almost ignore all the usual techical issues and award this site in the high 80s.
As it is, the confused policy over video prevents me going over the 70s. Whilst they've taken some positive baby-steps to improving since my last membership, which causes me to raise their score from 71 to 75, I can only give this site a qualified recommendation - look the previews and if you agree they are as hot as I think they are, then join but with your eyes wide open as to the flaws.
No that's helpful to know that they haven't taken all the videos down or given up on videos, so thank you, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful, just to keep the question open for any other members. Thanks!
Hey thank you! It's good to know they do at least still have videos. I was wondering if they are still producing new ones though or if their latest stories are pics only. Thank you.
I only ask because when I was last a member they refused to release a video because someone had put the previous episode on a file-sharing site. I believe they relented after an outcry from users. Then I read on another forum that they'd stopped doing videos altogether and gone to being a picture-only site. I wanted to know if this is true or if they still do videos? The preview section isn't clear on this and I don't want to rejoin if its pics only.
Yeah this network of sites is really annoying and disappointing me. They make some of the best porn in the business and then ruin it with crappy service and stupid site policies.
I think if they improved the service they could afford things - I'd love to know what their site turnover rate is - must be the highest in the industry!
Not surprised Straighthell didn't get back to you - they probably won't. Whatever the real reason, and the "anonymity of models" excuse is so patently ludicruous it's insulting - they're not going to change it any time soon.
I've just cancelled my subscription to another of their sites - First Auditions - updates too erractic, no new Groping Hands, expensive - it's just not worth staying a member - just go in and out every few months.
I agree - the site was always primarily a photosite but half-heartedly did add some videos later. Even then though they kept the photos, so even if you hated videos why would you demand they be removed as long as the photos remained?
To stop doing videos right in the middle of a series is particularly annoying and unfair to paying customers.
The irony is I never thought their photos were that great anyway - clear enough but hardly the big sizes you'd expect from a photo-only site.
All very disappointing. Even if they reversed this decision it puts me off rejoining the site because they seem to think nothing of reversing decisions on a whim, so who says they wouldn't do it again?
So many sites have great content wrecked by this awful attitude to customner service, sadly this is one of them!
As I'm at my word limit for my review and I haven't had personal experience of this, I thought I'd do this as a comment update rather than try and edit my review.
According to a CFNM forum I have read, CFNM.net are up to their old tricks. Not only do their best videos remain on the never-updated, DRM-riddled CFNM.TV which requires a seperate, pricey subscription, they have now apparently announced that they have "responded to users requests" and are stopping doing any more videos.
This happened IN THE MIDDLE of a new series, so was was a video series is now photos only! In future, only photosets will be relesased.
For the price they charge I am astonished. As I said as I haven't personally confirmed this, and as I have no intention of paying their high subscription fee just to confirm the worst, I won't change my review or rating but add this for info and a warning to others!
The money they charge for the photosets they do, which don't even have particularly large or good quality pictures, makes this site a real no-no in future in my opinion. SO sad because they have the best ideas and models! Sad.
Was a member approx. 3 months prior to this review.
Updated:
07-10-1108:23am (Update History) Reason: Decided 79 was too generous given massive flaw on site
Pros:
* Loads of exclusive content
* True to CFNM concept - most CFNM sites aren't
* Handsome models, good range of guys
* Surpisingly well-acted by male & female models
* Really good range of imaginative scenarios
* Streaming and downloading options
* No DRM as far as I can see - but see review for full details as there are some issues here
* British-based with mainly sexy British guys and women
* Lots of content suitable for gay male viewers too
* Regular updates
* Lively user forum
Cons:
- Very pricey - $39.95 first month, then $34.95
- Recurring subscription - needing manual cancel.
- Usual chaotic site design from this studio.
- No access or discounts to other sister sites.
- Some videos only available on sister site - costs same again to join, not updated, uses intrusive DRM AND expires downloads after 30 days!
- Forum interesting, but no feedback to comments, though some evidence they do read/act on them.
- Many of the stories are photosets only in basic galleries - no way of knowing which ones will be video and which photoset-only.
- Could do with some slightly older guys.
Bottom Line:
Another potentially awesome site from this studio that gets the porn so right but basics so wrong!
First the good - CFNM.net provides the absolute best, most imaginative, well-acted scenarios with great models. No other site comes close - period.
They understand the CFNM concept perfectly. Clothed Female/Naked Male means just that - the women's clothes stay on, fully, all the time - and are attractive without being so revealing that the women might as well be naked too.
I know I'm writing from a gay man's point of view, but to me, those sites miss the point. The clue is in the name- it's about men being shown off naked for the enjoyment of clothed women.
There's two camps with CFNM - some focus more on humiliating the men and some more on him showing off and enjoying it too. I like both - but prefer the former which this site does lean more towards. It provides a good choice though - some confident men, most humiliated but in a teasing way and some more hardcore with some moderate S&M.
I won't dwell on the usual flaws from the studio - crap search, chaotic layout, and very expensive.
However this site is unique in one famous problem. Apparently it used to have all the content, then they spun off all the video content to a sister site, CFNM.TV, so you had to join both sites - no discount - to see the video content you used to get from one.
I've been a member of this site and CFMN.TV and it seems that they spun off about 30 titles to CFMN.TV but then had partial change of heart.
CFNM.TV hasn't been updated in ages and CFMN.net now seems to get videos posted on it again - but the best videos remain on CFNM.TV. You can't even just sign up to CFMN.TV once to download them becuase they have vile, intrusive DRM which deletes downloads after 30 days if you leave the site, and won't work on any other OS than Windows.
This, and their odd policy of some scenarios having video and some not, means you can see a great story only to find it either has no video, or the video is at CFNM.TV.
If they'd just admit their mistake, close down CFMN.TV and make the videos non-DRM on CFMN.net I'd rejoin like a shot - despite the flaws I'd gladly pay just for the quality of the content.
A deeply flawed site I so want to love but can't!!
Excellent review - sounds like they know they have a pretty unique niche so they're exploiting that which is sadly quite common. The price isn't outrageous but the "rotating content" model is - I wouldn't mind it so much but they seem to be using it as an excuse not to offer as many updates, which I don't think is fair.
I've certainly never come across this type policy before and it looks a pretty blatant attempt to keep you subscribing - if only sites would realise that treating customers well and providing regular fresh material is the best way to do that!
Oh well, good review.
Sounds like it's a pity she decided to give up! I was going to say the review should be longer but on reflection with such a site I think it covers everything a user could need to know - sounds like there isn't so much content to review.
I guess I can understand changing your mind about being in the adult industry but my feeling is that as she's out there on the web already and can't undo that, she may as well continue and make some money - but I am sure she had her own good reasons.
I'm keen on some of the content on this site - and I would like to review the site - but I don't feel I can review it until I've made a purchase.
I am very scared of using a site which doesn't use an independent biller - the site seems to be quite well-known but I'd be grateful if anyone here who has used it or knows someone who has can confirm they are safe billers I can trust with my credit card details!
Great review. It's a useful site but with a $1 per minute on content I've yet to buy anything there - even the most expensive sites, at around $40-50 per month, give you much more than 40 - 50 minutes of content as this site would for the same price.
Incredible review - and I agree with the previous poster, negative reviews can be even more useful than positive ones.
I had no idea that some sites recycled content like this and passed it off as new - yet another disappointment for me to watch out for - I'm learning a lot from this site! Before I joined PU I didn't evne know some sites were streaming only!
You really go in-depth to warn aboiut a disappointing site. Well done!
Was a member approx. 6 months prior to this review.
Pros:
+ Absolutely unique site
+ DRM free
+ Decent back catalogue
+ All exclusive, original content
+ Good variety of men
+ Some convincing straight guys
+ Latest updates getting more creative
+ Videos now available in MP4 as well as WMV
Cons:
- Horribly expensive
- Ridiculous one-time joining fee on top with Verotel
- Updates are reasonably constant but slightly erratic - no definite schedule and you'll sometimes wait up to a week
- Only Verotel and Segpay available, even though they use CCBill on sister site CFNM.net
- Some later content overdoes the cheesy "comedy" element at the expense of sexiness
- Could do with some more variety in the clothed guys, though this is improving
- Feedback can be left, but they never respond directly
- Even "high quality" download is modest sized - no HD stuff here.
Bottom Line:
CMNM is a unique site from the makers of CFNM.net. They've taken the increasingly popular CFNM (Clothed Female/Naked Male) concept and done it for gay men.
I cannot find any other site apart from their sister site First Auditions which does anything like this, so that makes CMNM unique.
You can tell that it's from the same studio as CFNM.net as many of the models, studios and props used are identical, but that's no bad thing as they are hot!
Since all the models are men, they've made it different by having mainly straight and the odd bisexual man as the naked guy being humiliated and put through his paces by the clothed gay men. The site remains absolutely true to the concept the clothed men stayed fully clothed throughout.
The naked models used are hot - usually between about 18 and 35 and convincingly straight in most cases. There's a decent range of body types and I found the vast majority of them attractive.
The site follows a fairly standard formula - the guy is stripped off naked in the first video, then penetrated with a dildo in the next, and finally wanked off until his cums in the last.
This did get a little repetitive after a while but lately they've spiced up the formula a bit with a welcome dose of creativity, using more themes and stories such as prisoners violated in police custody, footballers used by the managers of their team etc.
The costumes and uniforms for these are generally good and the acting is generally convincing enough for you to suspend disbelief.
I would say though that they still aren't quite as creative in the way they humiliate and use the guys as they are at CFNM.net and one or two of the storylines attempted to introduce humour - bad idea as it was just incredibly cheesy and unfunny and once was absolutely unsexy, when they were rimming a guy and then discussing which brown sandwich spread his ass tasted like! Weird and a real turnoff!
Still, overall CMNM is a totally unique and very well done site.
As usual with this studio the letdown comes from technical issues and value. Until recently only WMV was available. They have now improved this with MP4 files, but even the higher-quality of the two download options is a modest 360x640 - no HD here! Sound quality is decent, though.
The streaming is acceptable but just flash-based so not always easy to jump around. Search is basic, as is the site layout.
At an eye-watering $39.95 for the 1st month, plus a further $1.95 one-off joining fee if you use Verotel, which I do as I've never even heard of the alternative SegPay, you'll need to hand over $41.90 to join this site, and a further $34.95 a month recurring, it makes it all the more disappointing that it updates only on average about twice a week and that's sporadic - sometimes you'll wait a week or more without explanation between updates. Bizarrely, CCBill is not an option even though sister site CFNM.net lets you use it.
I find the content is good enough, and unique enough, to justify the price occasionally but I never feel I get enough to justify recurring billing even at the slight discounted rate, so I tend to join the site every six months or so. I wish there were rival CMNM sites as I feel they know you have nowhere else to go and so feel they can charge what they like.
If this site was better value and updated more often and more consistently, it would easily get into the high 90s for me. As it is 81 is a generous score considering the issues but I feel it deserves it for the uniqueness and quality of the concept, if not the technical execution of it. This site is good, but it could be great - so typical of this studio!
Really? Nope, CMNM includes nothing else - sounds typical of this network of studios, they break everything up into as many different websites as possible and they know how to charge. I actually e-mailed them once and suggested a discount if you joined more than one of their sites - got a swift negative response on that little idea!
I think they're doing themselves out of money personally. If I had the cash I'd keep a continuous subscription going to several of their sites, but as it is I rarely join more than one and never more than two at once.
I was a member of this site but as it was a month outside the 6-month range I won't do a full review of it in keeping with site guidlines until I rejoin. As it's been a while now and I did enjoy the site, I expect to be joining soon.
In the meantime suffice to say it's the only CMNM (Clothed Male/Naked Male)-themed website I've ever found - there's dozens of CFNM (Clothed Female/Naked Male) websites but this seems to have the CMNM market all to itself - a pity as it doesn't encourage competition but of course I am grateful it exists!
You can actually see it comes from the same studio as CFMN.net as the style, studios and even some of the models are the same. It's not quite as creative as CFNM but pretty good and at least it doesn't have the stupid issues with video CFNM.net has (see my review and comment updates for info on that site). Watch this space for a review soon.
Uh-oh - the second I hear of the slightest problem with cancellation that's enough to put me off a site, so reviews like this are especially helpful. Sites have to be 100% hot on cancellations in a business like this where trust is low!
Wow sounds an awful site! I do think a lot of sites are stuck in the 1990s - wake up and smell the coffee folks! Most people have a half-decent broadband connection now and those that don't probably aren't going to pay to download porn anyway - it just isn't worth it at the speeds you get on dial-up.
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