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RE: dracken's Review

Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:29:58 PDT

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09-15-11 08:29pm

REVIEW REPLY by onlinelust (4)

To dracken (213):

This is my favorite network / site. Been on it few a few years now. I like the natural look of the girls and the fact that it's straight up fucking. A few camera angles that are known to work and hot action. There are significantly less updates from when I first joined now. Even so, I still consider it the best.

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RE: Dead

Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:50:31 PDT

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08-29-11 06:50am

COMMENT REPLY by elephant (47)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

It appear to be back up now.

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RE: dracken's Review

Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:25:06 PDT

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08-28-11 05:25am

REVIEW REPLY by TheSquirrel (30)

To dracken (213):

Fabulous review. We are in complete agreement. Beautiful girls who look great, with good quality photos and vidoes. It could be one of the best networks in porn with scores of 90+. Unfortunately management/owners/webmasters couldn't give a shit. Customers are treated with utter contempt. One of the most customer unfriendly networks in porn.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:48:06 PDT

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08-28-11 02:48am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Dead

The front end sites of the whole network seems to be dead. This is only affecting the tour / join pages as far as I can see so if you are a current member you should be able to log in as normal. Obviously they wont be getting any new members until the get their act together...

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RE: dracken's Review

Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:47:55 PDT

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08-27-11 01:47pm

REVIEW REPLY by pat362 (233)

To dracken (213):

Thanks for the review. This is a network that I keep track of so that I know which new scene is coming up. I agree that they have some of the best looking newbies and get them to do the hard stuff before many of the other players. I've never stayed longer than one month because there just isn't enough new content to warrant the high cost of joining. Of course the fact that many of the scenes are identical to each other doesn't help.

I was planning to give them another try but now that you tell me that the site is having issues then I'll have to wait.

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RE: dracken's Review

Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:07:57 PDT

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08-27-11 12:07pm

REVIEW REPLY by dracken (213)

To manholelover (24):

Thank you,

This was one of the first website networks I joined and I stuck with them for more or less 3 years (occasional breaks here and there). Sadly, like I said the quality of their tech is going down and I'll have to move on to better things sometime soon

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RE: dracken's Review

Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:26:27 PDT

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08-27-11 11:26am

REVIEW REPLY by manholelover (24)

To dracken (213):

Wow.. What a great, comprehensive review. Thanks for posting!

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:03:42 PDT

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07-04-11 11:03pm

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

New site

A new site has been added, Defiled18.com, with a theme of harder BDSM but using the same young cute models! Only 10 scenes so far but looks interesting to say the least. Full review coming soon!

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RE: Models are fantastic

Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:01:24 PST

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03-11-11 06:01am

COMMENT REPLY by BadMrFrosty (42)

To Looker (0):

I also agree, the models are great. Trouble is the network is plagued with technical problems and as nearly all of the girlies are in scenes on better sites its hard to recommend a membership here. Ironiclly all of the latest sites added to teencoreclub feature recycled content from those better sites!

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RE: Models are fantastic

Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:00:41 PST

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03-10-11 07:00pm

COMMENT REPLY by pat362 (233)

To Looker (0):

I agree that they have some super cute models and they also have the more hardcore shoots of some of them. The problem is that none of these models are exclusive to TCC so you can find them doing hardcore shoots on other sitse and in my opinion the models look better on the other sites.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:52:37 PST

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03-10-11 12:52pm

COMMENT by Looker (0)

Models are fantastic

Whatever the wider pros and cons for this network of sites, the bottom line for me is that the models are amongst the most attractive I've encountered. All must be under 25 with many I'm sure just 18 or 19. There are nearly all good-looking and many of them are clearly new, or relatively new, the world of the adult film industry. Many look genuinely shy, embarrassed or shocked by the whole encounter that to me gives the series the "true to life" quality that so many other sites lack.
The guys keep a relatively low profile so the viewer can focus on the models and their beauty. The male performers are clearly skilled in their art and manage the position their young "targets" in ways that helps the camera capture the best angels and facial expressions.

For me the main down side of the series are:

1. The guys are too vocal. They should keep quiet so the viewer can enjoy the sounds of the sex and the girls.

2. We could do with just a little more time at the beginning of each sequence getting to know the girls a little better. I know that for most of them English is not their first language but it would be so nice to hear a little more about them as people before we move on to enjoy their bodies.

Aside from that, highly recommended in my view.

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RE: bently's Review

Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:35:34 PST

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02-22-11 09:35am

REVIEW REPLY by BadMrFrosty (42)

To bently (3):

While I generally like the content offered by this network, there are so many other issues that giving it a 90 is, IMO, not a fair score. The complete lack of user interface features, the need to log in to each site in the network individually, the lack of model index, the expensive price, the download speed problems and the sites being regularly unavailable all should knock a fair whack off of that score.

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RE: bently's Review

Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:33:00 PST

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02-15-11 10:33am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To bently (3):

Not much info here, sorry......
Since this is not a site - but a network, it would have been great with a little more details - no a lot more details....a score of 90 means business...
It's rather an old network, and a lot here (probably) would like to get those more detailed facts - I would at least - some of the material seems fine - except from some of the old sites which goes on and on in same track, like Try Teens - for one. Again: it seems - have not been here for a long time.

Anyway - keep it up, bently - and btw: welcome to this PU.

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RE: Give it a miss

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:49:17 PST

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01-04-11 06:49am

COMMENT REPLY by DpornGuy (36)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

they seem more interested in adding sites and generic content, then maintaining the quality they used to have... Like pretty much the majority of most porn sites out there....

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RE: Give it a miss

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:38:54 PST

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01-04-11 06:38am

COMMENT REPLY by BadMrFrosty (42)

To DpornGuy (36):

Yes, I think they had their heyday maybe 2 years ago when there were many, many cute newbies. May give them another look in 6 months to see if there is any improvement but not holding my breath

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RE: Give it a miss

Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:36:09 PST

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01-01-11 01:36pm

COMMENT REPLY by DpornGuy (36)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

Have to agree.. at one point this was my favorite site, now its very generic... Generic models, Generic sex.. Gone are the likes of lilly and nelly and coral... whose scenes were great.. and codi/littlehellcat... what a pity...

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RE: whowho's Review

Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:45:00 PST

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01-01-11 06:45am

REVIEW REPLY by pat362 (233)

To whowho (7):

I'm a past member of this network and your review hit pretty much on every point. There are actually 4 sites with leased content. The one you named and you can add hardcore youth, analyzed girls and seductive 18 to the list. It's a very expensive network but you do get a lot of content and they often have the first hardcore scenes of many girls just starting in porn.

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RE: Give it a miss

Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:43:40 PST

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12-10-10 04:43am

COMMENT REPLY by BadMrFrosty (42)

To BrothersInCash (Webmaster):

Thanks for the update.

Browsing the site has greatly improved and download speeds have increased from ~2 megabits/s that they were when I wrote this comment to ~25 megabits/s (using DownThemAll, 4 connections).

Still nowhere near the 100 megabits my connection is capable of but a respectable speed.

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RE: Give it a miss

Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:03:51 PST

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12-08-10 08:03am

COMMENT REPLY by BrothersInCash (Webmaster)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

I apologize for these speed problems. At the moment the most popular and heavy content has been moved on special CDN solution (CDN = Content Delivery Network), so the download speed is limited now only by your provider.

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RE: Give it a miss

Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:34:49 PST

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12-04-10 06:34am

COMMENT REPLY by elephant (47)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

Yeah I don't think I'll bother joining this site now, cheers for the info, its really priced itself out of the market and should be more around $30-$35, at least make the site work well if you are charging such a premium price. Oh well I might join the 21 sextury network again.

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RE: Give it a miss

Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:30:33 PST

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11-28-10 11:30am

COMMENT REPLY by pat362 (233)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

I decided after my membership had expired that this would be the last time I'd joined this network and this latest piece of news only strengthen my decision. They used to have quite a few newbies doing hardcore but these days many sites have the same girls doing similar stuff and most of the other sites are better at shooting the girls than these guys.

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RE: Give it a miss

Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:00:15 PST

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11-28-10 09:00am

COMMENT REPLY by Goldfish (63)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

That's a bummer. It's a shame when good sites go bad.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Sun, 28 Nov 2010 07:55:20 PST

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11-28-10 07:55am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Give it a miss

I must be starting to sound like a broken record when it comes to this network. I usually rejoin every 3 months or so to grab any updates and see what is new.

Well the crappy download speeds are back sometimes even browsing the site itself feels like you are on a 14400 baud modem. Retro!

They have added new auto logout feature which randomly kicks you out of the site, usually half way through a download that wont resume. Innovative!

In addition to that, every so often a 503 - service unavailable server error pops up. Educational!

Bottom line, this will be the last time I rejoin. They have added nothing worth while, are still one of more expensive networks and have not fixed any of the technical issues that have dogged the network for the last year. I can get simular content elsewhere with none of the problems, I suggest everyone reading this does the same.

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RE: Back in action

Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:11:51 PDT

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09-21-10 06:11pm

COMMENT REPLY by pat362 (233)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

My biggst worry is not the recent server problems. That can happen to the best of sites but the fact that of the 13 latest updates. 5 are actually leased content available on a couple of other sites and
of the other 8. 3 of the updates are the same peformer in almost identical scenes. This network is 50$ and frankly I expect a lot more for that kind of money.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:02:11 PDT

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09-20-10 02:02am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Back in action

After a prolonged period of video files being unavailable and incredibly slow download times, they appear to have sorted out the problems and the network is working properly again.

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RE: Full video downloads do not work

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:01:07 PDT

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09-06-10 11:01am

COMMENT REPLY by pat362 (233)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

I've noticed a significant drop in their updates and some of the suff they now offer is leased content availbale on quite afew other sites. There is a thread on ebi's forum about this network. The most recent post was from saturday and the you couldn't download scenes as a whole. That does not bode well if you have abrand new membership or a long term one. Hopefully it's just a problem with their server.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:24:22 PDT

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09-06-10 06:24am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Full video downloads do not work

It seems to be going from bad to worse with this network. After the bad speeds I had a couple of weeks ago the site was today usable again so I thought I would try and download a few updates.

No chance of that, all of the full scene downloads have the notice "Sorry, this file is unavailable from 16:00 UTC Sep 2, 2010 till 16:00 UTC Sep 3, 2010 due to a server performance maintenance" which is fine except today is the 6th and its still not working. I am canceling my membership and advise anyone thinking of joining not to bother until they sort this out.

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RE: Seems Costly - How's download speed?

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:13:39 PDT

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09-01-10 05:13pm

COMMENT REPLY by Jamesy (0)

To TheRizzo (23):

At present VERY SLOW - takes 1.5 to 2 hours to download a 600 Mb video

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RE: Extremely slow?

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:10:57 PDT

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09-01-10 05:10pm

COMMENT REPLY by Jamesy (0)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

My great-grandmother moves faster than these sites - and she's 93!

Must be the slowest series of sites on the internet plus they do not answer comments made to their 'support' page.

It is almost impossible to download the videos as you get disconnected regularly. They closed access to the videos for 24 hours recently - I thought to change servers - but it has made no difference at all. Still VERY VERY SLOW.

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RE: New site - analyzedgirls.com

Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:09:19 PDT

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08-28-10 11:09am

COMMENT REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

As an aside ...

We've now listed this site. You can submit your remarks at:
http://www.pornusers.com/review/analyzedgirls/

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RE: New site - analyzedgirls.com

Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:34:13 PDT

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08-27-10 02:34am

COMMENT REPLY by BadMrFrosty (42)

To lk2fireone (116):

Yes it's pricey (even more so for us euro peeps) but its one of those sites that just does it for me. So every so often I rejoin to update my collection, but a sustained membership at 50 a month is just plain crazyness :)

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RE: New site - analyzedgirls.com

Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:06:03 PDT

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08-25-10 10:06am

COMMENT REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

$50 per month for membership? I am not John D. Rockefeller. :)

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Teen Core Club Comment

Wed, 25 Aug 2010 01:55:20 PDT

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08-25-10 01:55am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

New site - analyzedgirls.com

In keeping with the last few sites they have added, this one seems to be using licensed content as well. Only 15 scenes, 2 of them only available as split parts. Each scene comes with resonable sized photo set (~200 images, 1280 x 853 res). Some familiar girls but again with completely random names so tracking down who they are will be fun and games for all the family.

Not much more to be said, if you are already a member of teencoreclub this one might be worth checking out but its not worth joining for this alone.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:15:35 PDT

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08-23-10 02:15am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Extremely slow?

Is this site slow for anyone else? I dont mean just the download speeds, I mean browsing the pages in general. Seems like it takes over a minute for each page to fully load making it pretty much unuseable :(

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:12:21 PDT

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08-02-10 11:12pm

COMMENT by dracken (213)

A few more new sites

This network keeps adding sites like .com domains are free :P

They added seductive18.co and hardcore youth, although I understand both of these sites are just licensed content. Oh and they promised analyzed girls for july, but it's not up yet so who knows, maybe soon, in the meantime I wish they woudl focus on more updates and better navigation.

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RE: New site

Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:49:26 PDT

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04-28-10 04:49pm

COMMENT REPLY by pat362 (233)

To BadMrFrosty (42):

The peoblem is that this is all leased material so it begs the question of why they bothered in the first place.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:05:10 PDT

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04-28-10 06:05am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

New site

shegotsix.com has been added to the network featuring gangbang videos. Only 10 videos so far but the look of them is completely different to that of the videos on the rest of the network. I'm not sure if it is exclusive or licensed.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:04:02 PST

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03-10-10 07:04am

COMMENT by BadMrFrosty (42)

Video quality

I was a member of both assteenmouth.com and doubleteamedteens.com mid last year. The video quality back then was good but the videos always seemed lacking in finer colour detail. If you look at the video and image set side by side you can see the image sets are very vibrant but the video is very dull in comparison.

Anyone know if this has improved?

UPDATE

I went ahead and joined one of the newer sites in the network, MakeTeenGape.com and can see firsthand that video quality has unfortunatly not improved :(

Review to follow

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Teen Core Club Comment

Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:32:25 PST

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03-04-10 04:32pm

COMMENT by dracken (213)

Improvements

They are finally incorporating some of the things people (me included) have mentioned. The new videos are very good quality, the girls usually say a few words before the scenes and the sex is very, very energetic. Also now they have links to other videos the girl did on other network sites.

Finally, they added two new cool sites (make teens gape and cumholic or something like that)

My only complaint is that they still lack zipped archives and they only have one video version which is huge (600mb)

Still a bit pricey, but well worth it...

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RE: Seems Costly - How's download speed?

Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:29:07 PST

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03-04-10 04:29pm

COMMENT REPLY by dracken (213)

To TheRizzo (23):

I've never complained. With a good connection I get a 600mb video in 2-3 minutes.

However, almost all new videos are only available as huge files (500-700mb) Make sure you have a large hard-disk available :)

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RE: TheSquirrel's Review

Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:25:10 PST

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02-25-10 05:25pm

REVIEW REPLY by TheSquirrel (30)

To TheSquirrel (30):

Thanks guys. Had a real moral crisis on whether to do the review. Had it completed nearly six months ago and had to go with it now or it would be too late. I hate contributing to a forum that has censorship regarding free material, on the other hand I admit they do a lot of good, and help their members. I can't condemn them too much as they do seem to have a conscience.

It was asmith who said I concentrated too much on tech and not enough on opinion, content, and stuff that couldn't be found elsewhere. In looking back at my reviews I found he was right. My reviews did not explain what the site would be like to a new subscriber. So I wanted to do one that was better.

Added to that there were some things I wanted to say about this site. In my opinion TeenCoreClub has some of the best material on the internet, totally let down by all the negatives. With content of this quality it should be scoring 10 marks higher than the usual 80 something that everyone seems to give it.

I always enjoy what you two, Wittyguy, Messmer, Drooler, Denner, and the rest say. I find myself nearly always wanting to add something, but have stopped myself because of the PU censorship. I know this site does provide a great service for porn lovers so maybe I am being a little unfair. I may be putting in the occasional appearance as PU has always been great fun. Not sure what I should be doing. I know if this site were gone I would miss it, along with all the characters here.

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RE: TheSquirrel's Review

Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:50:42 PST

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02-25-10 03:50am

REVIEW REPLY by mbaya (344)

To TheSquirrel (30):

I agree. Nice helpful review and welcome back. I have always appreciated your opinions.

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RE: TheSquirrel's Review

Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:02:34 PST

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02-24-10 09:02pm

REVIEW REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To TheSquirrel (30):

Welcome back after a long absence. You wrote a solid review, as usual. Hope to see you much more often, for reviews, comments, general posts, whatever.

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Teen Core Club Comment

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:40 PST

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11-09-09 10:03pm

COMMENT by TheRizzo (23)

Seems Costly - How's download speed?

If I am going to spend $50 on a site, I want to be sure the download speed is excellent.

What speeds are you guys currently getting from this site right now?

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Teen Core Club Comment

Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:53:41 PDT

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08-16-09 12:53pm

COMMENT by dracken (213)

New site added to the network.

The Teen Core Club people receently added Cumaholic to their network. So far this site has only a few models but the previews promise a lot of girls from the other sites taking cum-shots. I am glad to see Aspen among the girls in the previews, although so far she doesn't have any scenes on the site.

Either way, the network is growing, slowly but surely.

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RE: pat362's Review

Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:50:30 PDT

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07-29-09 06:50pm

REVIEW REPLY by pat362 (233)

To Wittyguy (83):

Hi Wittyguy. I'll do an individual review for some of the sites available on the network. All the site seem to suffer from the same problems:
1-Although they have pretty decent resolution on their pics. You can't download them in one file. You have to download each pic one by one (in my book that means no pics).
2-Some of the action is good but suffers from Max Hardcore envy. Way too much drooling, gagging in the blowjob. It's mostly gonzo with little interaction between the performers.
3-Some of the girls are really, really beautiful but that beauty gets lost because the set-up, makeup and general attitude detract from that beauty.

Little Hell cat is unusual for them because it's just one performer.
It's not bad but it's also very new. There are only 14 scenes at the moment. Be advvised that the pic situation is the same for this site as other in the network.

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RE: pat362's Review

Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:26 PDT

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07-28-09 10:44pm

REVIEW REPLY by Wittyguy (83)

To pat362 (233):

Good review on this one. I used to visit some of these sites years ago when they were relatively new and still had cheap trials. Although it sounds like they have a good amount of content now it seems like they're lacking on pic and vid sizes for the money. How was the Hell Cat site? I've seen some of her stuff on a tgp site I visit and she looks pretty tasty.

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RE: Dmander6's Review

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:39:55 PDT

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06-16-09 12:39pm

REVIEW REPLY by OneMan (27)

To Wittyguy (83):

Also, 4 sites have been reviewed with low scores....while the one he is "promoting" has been given a high score along with comparisons to the others.....this site is the "best on the net".

Note the dates of the other 4 reviews. All on the same day......

Sorry, this person has an agenda...it is blindingly obvious and should be ignored.

As more evidence, after the review had been posted, an unfavourable review appears, and this person then adds another "review" under the comment section.....even longer than his original review.

This is blatent defence of a site, in which he clearly has an interest.

Dmander6, clearly has an interest in Teen Core Club, and his reviews and comments should be removed. you don't need to be Columbo to see this.

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RE: tehlupy1's Review

Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:49:02 PDT

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06-10-09 04:49pm

REVIEW REPLY by tehlupy1 (3)

To GCode (99):

You are right, I did not comment on the quality, as I should have. The 960x540 videos @ 3.17 Mb/s bitrate is actually good. This is a much higher quality than you find on many sites. Heck, its a higher rate than some sites give to their 1280x720 vids. This makes the videos passable at 200% zoom for those like me on big monitors at hi res (2560x1600), but this still does not make up for being lied to about them being HD given the hefty price tag.

So, video quality is good, miss-advertised resolution is bad.

I should have also provided the following:
Videos from the sites in 960x540@3Mbs range from ~17-31 minutes in length and 400-700MB in size.
Seven of the twelve sites included 960x540 videos. Some many more than others.
I am just into vids, so no comment on pics which are average. 1280x853 / ~250kb

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RE: tehlupy1's Review

Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:17:18 PDT

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06-08-09 07:17pm

REVIEW REPLY by GCode (99)

To tehlupy1 (3):

Pretty good information in a short n' sweet review. The largest point that I'd have to agree with is your statement about advertising HD when they are in no way even close. I'm finding more and more sites are doing this and not even spurting out a high resolution to begin with. Now it's obvious that true hd that are in the realm of blu-ray would be downright ridiculous in size for download, a site should always tell the correct resolution and bitrate for their movies. It's always funny when a site claims HD and they are at 640 X 480 or 720 X 480 and less than 1000 kbps.

But, my question to you is about your definition of quality of videos here. Are you saying that just because the videos are not above 960 resolution means they are bad quality or is it a combo of both the resolution and clarity of the video. I have seen some great looking videos at less than this resolution with a decent bitrate and don't really feel that the resolution needed to be any higher to get a good, clear video. I was just wondering what your thoughts were on this based on your wording in the review.

However, the price alone at $50 is swaying me away from the site in the first place, I just wanted to discuss the HD thing because this seems to be a hot topic recently with a lot of discussion. Take care.

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