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Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:30:22 PDT

Diabolic (2)

06-29-08 11:30am

COMMENT by mistake62 (0)

download option do not work with trial ?

- i have just subscribed but the download option do not work with the trial membership = technical issues?
- the billing support answer me i must upgrade my membership for downloading the material
IS IT RIGHT?

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RE: Another swindling attempt from Epoch

Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:19:54 PST

Diabolic (2)

01-09-08 12:19pm

COMMENT REPLY by asmith12 (86)

To DiacolicChris (Webmaster):

It would be indeed "cross-sale" and "special offer" if checkbox is NOT pre-checked (like reputable sites and processors like CCBill do). If it is pre-checked, I name it swindling; sure, you can invent your own names. BTW, I'm pretty sure that my issuing bank will side with me in disputing this charge if I will ever fail to notice such small print (on payment page I was selecting some specific price, and was charged a different one, with amount actually being charged being NEVER shown to me; that should be enough for bank, VISA or court to revert this charge and put fines as well as punitive damages to processor and/or merchant). Disclaimer: opinions here are just my personal opinions and shouldn't be taken as legal advice.

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RE: Another swindling attempt from Epoch

Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:25:17 PST

Diabolic (2)

01-09-08 09:25am

COMMENT REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To asmith12 (86):

This is called a cross sale, and it's a special offer on the signup page, if you don't want it just uncheck the box, it very clear and not misleading at any point. The word "Swindling" in over the top for sure, as this practice is used on most all big websites to offer other sites at the point of sale.

Diabolic.com Webmaster

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Diabolic Comment

Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:56:02 PST

Diabolic (2)

01-08-08 09:56am

COMMENT by asmith12 (86)

Another swindling attempt from Epoch

When signing in to Diabolic, got the following PRE-CHECKED checkbox in a rather small print:
"Sign me up for a 3 day No Charge Membership to www.pornstarstop.com. After 3 days, Membership renews automatically at $34.12 every 1 month."

As this kind of things upsets me greatly, I've decided not to proceed at this point.

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Diabolic Comment

Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:09:56 PST

Diabolic (2)

01-08-08 08:09am

COMMENT by asmith12 (86)

One more payment option

There is one more payment option (not listed on PU/TBP): $99.95/6 months non-recurring.

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RE: drphil's Review

Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:51:51 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-22-07 06:51am

REVIEW REPLY by drphil (4)

To rearadmiral (14):

I will definitely update my review on the site shortly. I wanted a chance to thoroughly go through the site one more time and take the time to edit my review responsibly. I went ahead and added the comment about video improvements quickly to acknowledge that Diabolic has indeed made some changes and listened to it's customers. They obviously want to improve their site and I certainly applaude them for that.
I by no means want to saddle someone with a bad review if they no longer deserve it in my opinion. My only goal on this forum is to be fair and share my experiences honestly.
Thank you for your comment and shortly my review will be ammended.

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RE: drphil's Review

Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:21:00 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-22-07 06:21am

REVIEW REPLY by rearadmiral (14)

To drphil (4):

Drphil - one of the advantages of this site is the honesty and difference of opinion available before we spend on sites. I think Diabolic is a great value even though the price is higher than other sites. I balance that actual cost against what the site offers, and in my opinion Diabolic is one of the best studios out there and for them to offer a substantial part of their catalogue for this price with no DRMs makes this a great value.

You've noted in a comment that as of late December the file sizes have greatly increased. Please consider editing your actual review to reflect these changes. The fact that the webmaster has responded to us actual customers, and actually improved the site based on our complaints, speaks volumes for the effectiveness of Pornusers.com and while we should be critical where it is needed we should also reward and reflect good customer service.

Thanks for adding your opinion to the mix.

M

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Diabolic Comment

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:38:15 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-20-07 02:38pm

COMMENT by drphil (4)

Video quality improved

After I received a reply from the webmaster stating the video sizes have been improved to 1500k I checked it out. There is a dramatic improvement in video quality since I reviewed the site 2 days ago.

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RE: drphil's Review

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:30:39 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-20-07 02:30pm

REVIEW REPLY by drphil (4)

To drphil (4):

Ok, so today Dec 20 I went back to confirm what DiacolicChris had posted about video size. I downloaded one of the newest scenes that have been made available and discovered that since my posting of this review on Dec 18 the video quality has substantially improved. I have not downloaded any other scenes but this one so I can't say every scene has been improved. However, the difference in quality from what I had been downloading prior to my review and the scene I downloaded today was like night and day.

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RE: drphil's Review

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:15:28 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-20-07 09:15am

REVIEW REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To Thagnut (8):

This is not something we could or would lie about, the downloads are now 1500k

Christian

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RE: drphil's Review

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:40:12 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-20-07 04:40am

REVIEW REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To Thagnut (8):

It would appear that user "rearadmiral" has already answered this question.
http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=13413

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RE: drphil's Review

Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:18:20 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-20-07 12:18am

REVIEW REPLY by Thagnut (8)

To DiacolicChris (Webmaster):

Hey - can anyone here confirm this? The webmaster may be blowing smoke & I'd like to know before I plunk down my money on this.

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Multiple Site News

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:50:39 PST

Multiple Sites (9)

12-19-07 03:50pm

NEWS by DiacolicChris (7)

Updated Downloadable File Sizes AGAIN

We just updated AGAIN (12/19/07) the downloadable NON DRM movies for www.Diabolic.com to 1500k at 640x480, enjoy

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RE: drphil's Review

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:48:04 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-19-07 03:48pm

REVIEW REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To drphil (4):

Downloads have just been updated to 1500k 640x480, our highest quality video file.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:13:27 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-18-07 07:13pm

COMMENT REPLY by drphil (4)

To Thagnut (8):

Couldn't agree more with you Thagnut. I should have listened to you, I will from now on.

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RE: GooMa's Review

Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:42:08 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-14-07 09:42am

REVIEW REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To GooMa (1):

Thanks for great review, were always trying to make the site better and your comments are appreciated.

The diabolic Team

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RE: rearadmiral's Review

Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:40:26 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-14-07 09:40am

REVIEW REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To rearadmiral (14):

Thanks for the detailed info. I would like to address a few points.

The Cast:
We came into this project (taking Diabolic online) way late in the game and to be honest there is not one person who knows every cast members, the scene breakdowns info was incomplete as many if not all the older Diabolic directors have moved on and no longer work there.

Diabolic would shoot new fresh talent once, that in some cases the girl would not even shoot ever again or changed her name.

Regardless, were constantly updated the info and it's a big task when you�re dealing with thousands of performers.

Download Sizes:
We ARE going to bump these up to 1500k (640x480) in the very near future, we just have to make adjustment to the servers to handle the double (if not triple) downloading.

The site is doing very well and the comments and suggestions were getting really help us give you guys the best product we can, so please keep them coming. Look for some new cool member features really soon too.

The Diabolic Team

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RE: Download sizes greatly improved

Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:50:33 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-14-07 05:50am

COMMENT REPLY by rearadmiral (14)

To jd1961 (82):

I wish I was that lucky! Porn shops in my area seem to have stopped carrying Diabolic stuff. Many other top studios too. It may be that the Canadian Border Services is being run by a bunch of Baptist women who deem Diabolic's stuff too offensive, but for now, the website is my only means of getting Diabolic.

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RE: rearadmiral's Review

Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:12:13 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-13-07 09:12pm

REVIEW REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To rearadmiral (14):

They're not "letting" you download their stuff---they're charging you a very high fee to do so!

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RE: Download sizes greatly improved

Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:57:35 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-13-07 08:57pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To rearadmiral (14):

I live 5 miles from a porn shop where I can get all their videos. I don't need to be paying money for the privelage of looking through their catalog.

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RE: Download sizes greatly improved

Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:16:29 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-13-07 06:16pm

COMMENT REPLY by rearadmiral (14)

To jd1961 (82):

I think it's all relative. I agree that many may think that this site is just a big expensive advertisement, but that would only happen if you had reasonable access to Diabolic DVDs. Diabolic is a great studio and this site gives access to a lot of their stuff. I think it's a decent value.

It's great to have these debates though since different perspectives always help.

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RE: Download sizes greatly improved

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:45 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-11-07 06:41pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To rearadmiral (14):

The reason they limit the download video resolution is that they are using this site as an advertisement for their over priced DVD's.

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Diabolic Comment

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:56 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-11-07 05:00pm

COMMENT by rearadmiral (14)

Download sizes greatly improved

As of December 22 (and maybe a few days ago) the DL sizes are much larger. I've compared several scenes that I DLed earlier and the sizes are about doubled.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:02:48 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-08-07 08:02am

COMMENT REPLY by User (28)

To Thagnut (8):

You're right about the DRM on the higher quality.
Check out ZTOD (Zero Tolerance On Demand). They have removed all their DRM and you also get Third Movies with your membership.
Not only is their DRM gone, but you get much higher quality videos. I dont consider anything under 2200kbps and a 640X480 frame size to be high quality.
Next, you can check out Club Red Light. You get most Red Light District movies available for download. They use a one-time only DRM, which doesnt mean you can't watch the movies after your membership expires. They use this to prevent peer-to-peer sharing of their movies. There is some great content here and again, it is true high-res video.
Apart from those, I agree with other posters that movie studio sites are generally overpriced and under-delivering on quality.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:01:22 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-08-07 05:01am

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To DiacolicChris (Webmaster):

IMO, as a porn customer, quality downloadable video encourages me to buy a company's DVD's. These things aren't mutually exclusive. On the other hand, a website that is obviously set up just to sell over the counter product is a real turn off. My 2 cents.

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Multiple Site News

Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:14:24 PST

Multiple Sites (9)

12-07-07 11:14am

NEWS by DiacolicChris (7)

Updated Downloadable File Sizes

We just updated (12/07/07) the downloadable movies for www.Diabolic.com to 700k and have plans to have the 1500k streaming files available for download very soon.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:10:14 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-07-07 11:10am

COMMENT REPLY by DiacolicChris (Webmaster)

To Thagnut (8):

No DRM and we just updated all the downloadable files to 700k, and have plans to make the 1500k's downloadable too.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:25:15 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-01-07 12:25pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To apoctom (144):

When I was a member @ 3rd Movies a few months ago, most of the DRM was removed.

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:33 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-01-07 12:23pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To Thagnut (8):

Thanks for the warning!

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RE: It (was) a scam.

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:07 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-01-07 08:13am

COMMENT REPLY by apoctom (144)

To Thagnut (8):

Nice catch, Thagnut. I have found this sort of "fine print" regarding DRM to be a symptom of movie studio sites.

Since you were looking at a gonzo studio, I would recommend that you check out Devil's Film, which includes subscriptions to Combat Zone, White Ghetto, and a couple more sites. They don't have any DRM.

I'm also going to try Third Movies soon. According to the webmaster, they are finished removing DRM from all of their movies.

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Diabolic Comment

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:01:39 PST

Diabolic (2)

12-01-07 06:01am

COMMENT by Thagnut (8)

It (was) a scam.

I was going to join, because these are some great movies. But..look closely. The downloadable, non-DRM movies you can keep are just 400K.. so basically it's a streaming site that lets you keep little momentos of the scenes in low-resolution. What a shame.

* jeez - I guess they changed it. I withdraw this comment.

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