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RE: nygiants03's Review

Mon, 19 May 2008 13:26:58 PDT

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05-19-08 01:26pm

REVIEW REPLY by asmith12 (86)

To nygiants03 (154):

> -No DP on Anna
There is one, posted on April 20th 2008. The guys should be listening :-).

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Fri, 02 May 2008 21:53:57 PDT

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05-02-08 09:53pm

COMMENT by Traveler (0)

Question

Did the price go up recently?
I remember it being cheaper.

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RE: Images can't be downloaded???!!!

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:58:40 PST

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02-24-08 08:58pm

COMMENT REPLY by nygiants03 (154)

To Traveler (0):

joined recently. You can download images, but there is no zip download. My reviews will be coming soon.

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RE: Images can't be downloaded???!!!

Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:20:59 PST

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02-08-08 04:20am

COMMENT REPLY by Traveler (0)

To Traveler (0):

I was referring to the review by Vanessa from TBP:

(+) Consistent updates.
(+) Dedicated swinger site.
(+) Lot's of content/good quality.
(+) Multi-site access.
(-) Quality and download options can range some.
(-) Images can't be downloaded. ---THIS

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RE: Images can't be downloaded???!!!

Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:45:56 PST

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02-07-08 09:45am

COMMENT REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To Traveler (0):

All our content is downloadable. We have nothing blocking anything, and we only use straight HTML, if you are experiencing a problem with your browser, or with our site, we have a support link at the bottom of EVERY page, please use it so we can help solve your techinical support issue. We have people on staff almost 24/7 to help you.

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Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:42:02 PST

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02-07-08 07:42am

COMMENT by Traveler (0)

Images can't be downloaded???!!!

What the hell....

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Multiple Site News

Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:31:40 PST

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01-16-08 03:31pm

NEWS by Bruce (3)

Added Cam Schedules

In addtion to haveing cam schedules available on the main index page, we have now also added a cam schedule for each of our girls that do live cam shows on their individual cam page!!

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:55:09 PDT

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09-07-07 05:55am

REVIEW REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To nygiants03 (154):

Hi,

Actually, there are tons of female orgasisms on our site. Since this is a real site, we don't do the fake girl screaming thing, our site is real, thus the name 4Real :) Anna for example shakes and moans softly when she comes.

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RE: intoksicated's Review

Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:40:01 PDT

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06-25-07 12:40am

REVIEW REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To intoksicated (0):

Lol

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RE: NYC PR's Review

Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:38:33 PDT

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06-25-07 12:38am

REVIEW REPLY by jd1961 (82)

To NYC PR (0):

Lol

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:05:58 PDT

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06-06-07 07:05pm

REVIEW REPLY by nygiants03 (154)

To OUMarcus (40):

Thanks, that does help, because I was thinking about joining this site for a while, but now I'll pass. I figured with an amateur swinger site there would be a ton of orgasms, but I guess not. Thanks
again

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:03:01 PDT

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06-06-07 07:03pm

REVIEW REPLY by OUMarcus (40)

To nygiants03 (154):

Hi NYGiants,

I have to say that there aren't very many female orgasms to be had on this site. It is definitely an amateur swinger site, but it is more the prototypical fare.

I hope that this helps.

Best regards,

OUMarcus

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:16:20 PDT

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06-05-07 10:16pm

REVIEW REPLY by nygiants03 (154)

To OUMarcus (40):

I'm really into natural female orgasms. I see this is considered an amateur site, are there many orgasms in this site, and are they real or seem real to you. The last amateur swinger site I joined was Brandi Love and her site contained some really body shaking intense orgasms, and I enjoyed it. So if you can let me know, it would be must appreciated. Allright thanks bro.

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RE: ZerO9's Review

Sun, 27 May 2007 11:48:28 PDT

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05-27-07 11:48am

REVIEW REPLY by Tallaria (0)

To ZerO9 (1):

Nice review! Bf and i plan on joining this site ourselves soon. We've been looking for a good swinger lifestyle site. Thanks for the review!

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:04:35 PDT

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04-12-07 10:04am

REVIEW REPLY by OUMarcus (40)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

Hi Bruce,

I think that you'd be on the right track by making the feature more noticeable. Best of luck with your future endeavors.

Regards,

OUMarcus

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:34:34 PDT

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04-11-07 05:34am

REVIEW REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To OUMarcus (40):

Once again, thank you very much for your feedback and your time!

You are correct, when you first click on the video page, or the photo page we display the updates ordered by their publishing time, with the newest videos/photos at the top of the list.

We do have the feature you are looking for at the bottom of those pages though. With our search function we have a drop down list that you can select any category you want, or any girl/guy that you want to see more of, then it will list only what you have selected, ordered by their publishing time :) Maybe I should move this feature to the top of the page to make it more noticable.

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:29:04 PDT

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04-10-07 05:29pm

REVIEW REPLY by OUMarcus (40)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

Hi Bruce,

For me it is really a personal preference. If you were to make it easier to find particular videos, that would pretty much satisfy me. I don't really like a bunch of videos listed on a page without any categorization.

Perhaps breaking the videos and pics into categories, such as, group/swinging, solo, couples, etc., and then into the individual titles would make things a bit more elegant. I don't recall that being available when I was a member. I recall the vids and pictures being listed in update order, which is really fine.

I hope that this is clear enough.

Best regards,

OUMarcus

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RE: OUMarcus's Review

Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:20:26 PDT

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04-10-07 05:20pm

REVIEW REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To OUMarcus (40):

Thank you for the feedback!! We love to hear how we can improve our site, one of the things we started doing recently was remastering our older videos making them much larger than before.

I do have one question, as far as navagation on the site. What could we do to make the navagation better on our site?

Thank you very much for the feedback, it means a great deal to us that you took the time to let us know what's up!!

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RE: ZerO9's Review

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:53:34 PST

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02-10-07 04:53am

REVIEW REPLY by roseman (234)

To ZerO9 (1):

thanks for the review, from what i saw from the tour pages the site's content must be huge

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:54:09 PST

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01-23-07 04:54pm

REVIEW REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To studslut (8):

OK, this is just funny now, we never have used DRM, and we don't have a default media type, in the past we have always put up our videos in 3 files types, now we use two, Windows Media and Real Media. You seriously sound like you were a member my friend...lol

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:30:48 PST

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01-23-07 03:30pm

REVIEW REPLY by studslut (8)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

(Part 5)

And yes, I'm fully cognizant that the standard protocol for universally safe sexual activity is a no-brainer for adults in the 21st century, but ultimately practicing safe sex is a personal choice, and in porn as in my private life, I quite simply just hold no affinty for fucking with a condom on. This doesn't render me a sexual deviant or reckless pervert much like banging your neighbor's wife or letting some thug bone your wife in front of a camera doesn't make neither of you such either. Got it? For argument's sake do you really think that because some dude is fucking your wife with a condom on you're somehow respecting her more? He's still putting his dick inside her isn't he? Yeah, that's some sober respect right there dude. I also fully understand that it's a fundamental pillar in the culture of swinging (I myself am also in the lifestyle my man) but in the exhibited features produced for your site they in all honesty greatly nullify what should be the elemental excitement of the activities presented. But again, this is only one opinion, however valid and true as my feelings on this subject are, they only express one person's opinion and no one else's. The bottom line remains that what I thought I was signing up for was not what I received after the check cleared and I crossed the threshold. I payed for a hardcore swingers site and ended up with the feigned nervous dross typical of late night cable.

Sorry man, but I'm speaking not only as a former customer, but as a young swinger with highly exacting tastes who also happens work in the adult entertainment industry myself. I know what works for me and what doesn't. I for one, literally grew up in the industry, my father is a former actor-turned-producer and even my parents at one point were also swingers themselves, and now that I'm a performer and have been swinging for a little over five years (I'm counting high school gang bangs as experience too, but with partners I've been steadily swinging since I was 17) I quite naturally prefer to do on film as I do behind closed doors, and I apply all these very standards to all of my sexual endeavors. This I'm afraid only heightens my insatiable criteria as I said, not only a young red blooded man on the prowl, but as a porn consumer especially, and in my perspective, your site is seriously lacking on all fronts. Take it or leave it, but my dissatisfaction with you is such that I even hated your scene on Blow Job Races.

GAME OVER.

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:30:31 PST

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01-23-07 03:30pm

REVIEW REPLY by studslut (8)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

(Part 4)

Yes, I'm not denying that I have very specific tastes in terms of sex and more specifcally pornography, I do, and to you I'm sure they're a bit extreme, but they're my own tastes and I will defend them as much as you do your own. But can you for a second imagine my utter dissatisfaction when I searched for anal sex shoots on your site only to be met with but a few numbered (and lame I might add) examples of adolescent sodomy? That was reason enough for me abhor your entire collection, period!

The condom issue is another niche that I am decidely lukewarm towards. Your "In today�s society, it amazes me" comment is critically unfounded because I doubt that just because you're swinging in suburban America, you'd feel absolved from producing more hardcore action for what is essentially a venture capital business and not another one of your private Friday night parties for only you and your friends. Do condoms really delineate the boundaries of soft and hardcore sex? For me, as with many other men, they do. Perhaps what you guys are doing isn't in the same vein as other (legitimate) hardcore sites on the net, but regardless of whether you're, as stated, just "swinging amateurs" or actual professional actors in the industry, there are STRICT guidelines set that effectively ensure the safety of all performers regardless of the type of play involved at whichever kind of venue and with whatever the performer's inherit professionalism may be, these are called AIM tests and STD screenings. Do these not exist in Kansas? Hell, even non swinging, non-pornstar citizens get tested if they are more agressively active sexually. They keep the porn industry clean and alive just as effectively as rubbers do, but this I feel is at the sole crux of my entire argument, that is that 4RealSwingers isn't legitimate pornography, but a mere archival stash of mild home videos instead. You said it Bruce, you don't offer a polished streamlined website, 4RealSwingers is as soft and as decidely rudimentary at best.

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:30:13 PST

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01-23-07 03:30pm

REVIEW REPLY by studslut (8)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

(Part 3)

So who am I to criticize something that you've been doing for "EIGHT" years? Simple, I'm someone who was charged four times to remain a member to your website. As someone who in no simpler terms AUGMENTED your income for a quarter of a year, I feel fully deserving to make any and all judgements with regards to what I was privy to during this period. Ironies aside, what I originally wrote was as accurate an assessment as any truly discerning former/present/future member could ever make of 4realswingers. I mean, has your website really changed that much since 2004 that you felt the need to discredit and negate my entire point of view? I didn't think so.

But like you mentioned, and I'm glad YOU mentioned it, but your "400+ photo sets and 411 videos" of self-described "non-polished non-pro" content really isn't worth bragging either man. Especially when the bulk of these videos end up blending and looking unvaried and monotonous after a while. But this is why you guys used to protect them with Digital Rights Management right? G-d forbid that anyone would actually download a dozen videos of the same boring action and become bewildered about telling them apart on their hard drives. But now that you've apparently disabled DRM, I'm afraid that it's still not worth the trouble of encouraging people to join, particularly if you're still using REALPLAYER as the default media reader. See Bruce, I WAS a member, and I can tell you specifically which episodes I did and did not watch. I sir, joined "Anna & Bruce" to see just that, ANNA AND BRUCE, not Anna and ugly girlfriends, or Anna and Joe Black Guy. So yes, I infrequently bothered to watch any videos that didn't have you as a protagonist, something which was thankfully very easily facilitated by the search options made available on the site to seek specific clips featuring particular persons and sexual niches. And so what if you are only featured in half of your "411" videos, who cares, it only goes to show how unimpressive it all ultimately was that it all ended up looking alike to me. Do you think your own personal performances to be that exceptional that one might be able to distinguish yours from other dude's? And similarly, I for one don't appreciate POV shoots of ten minute blowjobs, or the same old "swingers" hot tub routines either, nor do I enjoy solo-dildo-masturbation scenes, or care for girl-on-girl action, and I'm most especially turned off by seeing black dudes fucking white women the most. And before you [incredulously] call me a racist, I'll save you the trouble because it's none of your business if I am or not, so BFD!

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:29:46 PST

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01-23-07 03:29pm

REVIEW REPLY by studslut (8)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

(Part 2)

#1 and only #1 - I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING WRONG!

Countering my admittedly BLATANT generalizations made about "Viagra, Oprah, 'MODELS', and Condoms" doesn't change the fact that this is how this reviewer perceived your content. PERCEIVED! At no moment did I explicitly say that you guys used or did or were guilty of any of these things, but simply stated this as a tongue-in-cheek device to illustrate the point I was trying to make. Any normal person with even a minutely adequate sense of humor could've picked up on the fact that these statements were said with earnest levity and irony. The fact that you've chosen to dwell on them is I'm afraid, your own problem and NOT MINE! And you say that you don't use Viagra, bravo!, good on you man, but lot's of people do, so who cares. My point of reference was ONLY to give an example of how I observed your content: slow, boring vanilla, or I suppose what you'd erroneously classify as "Amateur" right? Is it a harsh and unfair asessment? totally, but BFD, BIG FUCKING DEAL, get the fuck over it dude. The Oprah bonbon comment was clearly meant less seriously than how you've taken it and only illustrates your own issues and insecurities with receiving criticism. Grow up!

As for this argument about hiring "Models", I never once used that specific term SPECIFICALLY but I did however say that you [hired girls] so I'll at least give you that one, and only that one, but you MUST first go back and re-read my review, it is quite obvious that I merely mentioned these [girls] to point out their physical ordinariness and nothing else. But I must say though, that in this case I'm glad that they do indeed work for free because even at a dollar a dozen they're not worth the price of a cup of coffee, let alone a month's membership to your site. And so what if you don't compensate your network of swinging friends, neighbors, or whatever you want to call it, that still doesn't change my critique, consented work or not. As a porn viewer, your so-called "friends" are simply the cast in the production. Do I care that you've been swinging together since 1907? Nope. Did I even care enough to click on their respective banners featured on your site and more pressingly do I care about any of them now? Nope and nope. (And you say that I wasn't a member huh?) Your responibility was not to question whether or not I was a member because of my review, but rather accept my (and all criticism for that matter) as constructively as possible and evolve from it. You should learn to VALUE your past and present members and E[VALUE]ATE their commentary to address the issues and situations that arise from them if you wish to attract subscribers in the future. Instead you've proven yourself to be above the fundamental purpose of this "review website" in that to your knowledge 4RealSwingers is in no need for improvement or further evolution. And sadly that's your own undoing.

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RE: studslut's Review

Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:29:25 PST

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01-23-07 03:29pm

REVIEW REPLY by studslut (8)

To Bruce (Webmaster):

(Part 1)

WOW! An impassioned-yet-unjustified reply from a disgruntled hypersensitive webmaster . . . never thought I'd be getting one of these. But now that you've clearly taken the initiative to seek out any (if there HAD been any other reviews for your awful site other than mine) and worse, even had the audacity to wrongfully attempt to discredit my so-called "comical" and uniformed review of said, AWFUL AWFUL WEBSITE, I too will counter your reply POINT BY POINT in the same manner with which you've tried to question the basis and criterion with which I've judged your site. But before I continue further let me first preface the rest of this reply by inviting you to contact me personally via private message here on Pornusers so that I may give you the transaction information of the membership subscriptions from not only 2003 sir, but like I stated, my foolish rejoining of a second time in 2004. If the case turns out that you don't keep records of past members, I'm more than 100% positive that my VISA V.I.P. concierge can more than vouch for my having been a member to your awful site and put your INARGUABLE suspicions to rest. Or better yet, through the billing system utilized when signing up. Of course, I shouldn't even be putting myself out there in this capacity, but you've accused me of never having been a member, thus putting into question my integrity as a reviewer here on Pornusers and that sir is an unfair blow serving only to appease your obviously hurt ego. So unless you can be 100% certain that I (or anyone else who reviews your site(s) here were never members) take these words as the opinions of people who at one time inflated your and your wife's bank accounts and have earned EVERY RIGHT to comment as they see fit and just. And unless you will be reimbursing me with my assets, then trust that I was a member during the periods I've already expressed in my review.

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RE: studslut's Review

Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:46:13 PST

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01-22-07 08:46pm

REVIEW REPLY by Bruce (Webmaster)

To studslut (8):

Well, I guess the review from studslut needs to be addressed, as comical as it is.

I have to question is this person has ever been a member to our site since he got so much wrong. For starters, out of our 400+ photo sets and 411 videos, I am only in about ½ of them. I think you saw some previews of the site and decided that it was just us together inside, having boring sex as you called it, but in reality the vast majority of the shots Anna is in, is with other guys, not me.

Some things that you got terribly wrong, we have never used Viagra, or paid models to shoot for our site. We have never and will never hire models for our site; everything you see on our swinger site is 4 Real. Just that you think we hired girls just goes to show that you were never a member, or you would know otherwise. Anna doesn�t watch Oprah, she is not unemployed nor does she eat bonbons. lol

There were also your comments on our condom use. Not wearing a condom is taking your life as well as the life of the ones you are with into peril. In today�s society, it amazes me that anyone could make such an uneducated statement. Swinging is a lot about respect, and if you respect your partner, you will have safe sex. In the real swinging world condoms use is rule number one, this is universal across North America.

4RealSwingers.com is an amateur website, in that we don�t pay models, and we don�t do paid shoots, everything you will find on our site 4 Real, it�s our real life, and with that you will not see polished over photos, really fancy looking designs behind the content, or fake orgasms. What you will find is that we are 4 Real, and that what we are doing is documenting our real swinging lifestyle. So if you are looking for a polished pro looking site, with paid models, fucking without condoms, yelling loudly while faking orgasms, then we are not the site you are looking for. If you are looking to peek behind the doors of what is going on across America in suburbia, then we have 8 years of documentation of real swinging, or if you want to see the wife next door getting nasty for fun, or if you want to actually meet and talk with real people during live cam shows, interact on our message board, or just enjoy our network of amateur girls, then we are the site your looking for.

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