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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:20:04 PST

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01-02-10 09:20am

REVIEW REPLY by xbigvmanx (Webmaster)

To Denner (227):

Good point I will go ahead and post this on my review. Once I downloaded this website I'll share the spoils for free.

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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:58:16 PST

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01-02-10 08:58am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To xbigvmanx (Webmaster):

Is this site still alive?
And who keeps it alive - got to be new members - only. First time as a member I was disappointed, second time even more - third time generally pissed...69 is not a high score, but it might deserve a warning, too...
And the info from xbigvmanx about 'no more updates' should give a hint: stay away!

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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:02:20 PST

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01-01-10 12:02pm

REVIEW REPLY by Drooler (218)

To xbigvmanx (Webmaster):

I got burned the same way two years ago, by overly positive reviews. And I was pretty darned PO'd about it.

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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:40:07 PST

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01-01-10 10:40am

REVIEW REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To xbigvmanx (Webmaster):

Yeah, I've been putting comments on the reviews of this site about the hideously poor rate of updates since at least mid-2008 trying to warn people about this site. Oh, well - I tried.

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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:58:06 PST

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01-01-10 07:58am

REVIEW REPLY by xbigvmanx (Webmaster)

To Drooler (218):

You know what surprises me is this website is still up and running also some of the trustworthy review sites gave of 80 and above which shouldn't be the case. Rabbitreviews.com gave it a 90! Hoes.com gave it a 81. So I am a little miffed at this. If the website got daily updates with the content that's there it would definitely deserve those scores. Still I am going to take this website for what its worth and use it to my advantage.

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RE: xbigvmanx's Review

Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:48:47 PST

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01-01-10 07:48am

REVIEW REPLY by Drooler (218)

To xbigvmanx (Webmaster):

They only label their thumbs as 4000 pixels. It's complete bullshit.

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RE: So what's the verdict?

Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:43:41 PDT

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08-21-09 11:43am

COMMENT REPLY by GCode (99)

To exotics4me (431):

Thanks a bunch for the info, as never being a member before and with your info provided, I believe I shall add it to the list. Once again, appreciate the detailed response.

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RE: So what's the verdict?

Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:58 PDT

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08-20-09 01:00pm

COMMENT REPLY by exotics4me (431)

To GCode (99):

Hey GCode, sorry about the delay on this one. Good news, they've now got Epoch handling their billing again. As far as the site goes, it is a bittersweet site for me. I loved the photos, beautiful colors in the background, but most of all, the outfits the models started out in were some of the best I've seen. I would have never known that meant anything to me if not for an Eve Angel photo set I have from Super Glam. She has on a blue tank top, black workout shorts that barely cover her butt and there was mesh involved too. I had never seen Eve like that. It was very casual looking, but she still looked glamorous. The site focuses on the very top tier of Euro models. The video quality is a stretch to say average. But, I did just open one to see how it looks, they use a bit of a letterbox on the sides, which really, when stretched to full screen actually helps it look less grainy since it isn't trying to fit the whole screen.

The quality of the content on the videos is mostly graphic masturbation. The Eve one I just opened even has rubbing her butthole some, which is kind of rare for Eve. The best way to put it now, with Epoch handling the billing, if I had never joined it, I would in a second. The content is exclusive as far as I know. All videos that I'm looking at start out dressed, little stripping, dancing, then into masturbation. I say bittersweet because I always thought they could be one of the top Euro sites with even 4 weekly updates.

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RE: So what's the verdict?

Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:25:43 PDT

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08-11-09 07:25pm

COMMENT REPLY by GCode (99)

To exotics4me (431):

Ah, I totally overlooked the video stats on TBP and you are completely right. It would be a probably a one time stay so the updates are not a huge issue for me. You said going back, so you have been a member, how was the billing processor when you were a member before? I am extremely nervous about this myself with a certain past experience straying away from the usual suspects. I trust your judgement and with your experience with the photo quality combined with the average videos, thumbs up for one a month stay if the billing processor is non-problematic?

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RE: So what's the verdict?

Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:04:30 PDT

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08-10-09 11:04pm

COMMENT REPLY by exotics4me (431)

To GCode (99):

GCode,

I've considered going back several times, but they are not using a billing processor that I'm familiar with so it has kind of put them on hold for now. They still aren't giving many new updates, only about 9 photo and videos combined per month. The first time join is pretty good though. Especially for those A-List Euro models and their content is exclusive. Video quality was slightly below average the last time I was on it though.

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Super Glam Comment

Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:40:42 PDT

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08-10-09 04:40pm

COMMENT by GCode (99)

So what's the verdict?

I've heard a lot of making progress, getting better, etc etc. But, not a lot of recent reviews or an actual yea or ney.

So, if anyone can voice their opinion on the site, THUMBS UP or THUMBS DOWN?

Thanks.

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RE: Definitely making forward progress

Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:51:39 PST

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03-05-09 03:51am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To exotics4me (431):

If you go through the trouble contacting this Global Cash-thing - please let me hear the result.
I'm still "terrified" of unknown payment processors.....
Cheers!

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RE: Definitely making forward progress

Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:28:02 PST

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03-04-09 10:28am

COMMENT REPLY by exotics4me (431)

To Denner (227):

Hey Denner,

I was going to join, but the payment processor is a different one than usual. It says Global Cash Limited or something like that. I'm going to send a support email and ask about it. I had just noticed the new content on the previews and like you, was impressed. I really like Tea, she is one of the few newer models that has caught my attention. I will let you know as soon as I hear back about the payment processor.

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RE: Definitely making forward progress

Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:05:40 PST

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03-03-09 08:05am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To exotics4me (431):

Hey again, exotics4me...
Just spend some time browsing - and, ok it's not the sweetest deal with the weekly updates - a little slow, after all. Good price, though...

BUT those updates are something else: took a look at the sample videos: just WAUW! - Tea in the bathroom, or a new Eufrat (Drooler, the old Eufrat-fan, you got to see her here!) - or the sweet Bijou....

BTW: Are you a member now? And are all the later videos/photosets of this great standard/quality?

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RE: Definitely making forward progress

Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:49:14 PST

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03-03-09 05:49am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To exotics4me (431):

Thanks for this fine update from good ol' exotics4me....
Admit, I'm surprised to read it, but, man - it sounds really good. If that site finally has taken a hold of themselves it's just good news, because ONCE they had some great stuff.
Running in there to take a look at the site again....

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Super Glam Comment

Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:52:57 PST

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03-02-09 01:52pm

COMMENT by exotics4me (431)

Definitely making forward progress

Just to further Denner's last comment about this site that still has a ton of potential. They have improved their update schedule a great deal. You now get a video and photo set every week, there for awhile, you were lucky to get one video per month. With the added site discount, if you haven't joined it, it has some really good content from years past, pretty softcore for the most part, but the improved update schedule and lower price at least shows they are moving in the right direction.

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RE: IKnoPorn's Review

Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:21:19 PDT

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07-07-08 10:21pm

REVIEW REPLY by IKnoPorn (22)

To PinkPanther (44):

Thanks, PinkPanther, you were right. I have a list of "experimental" sites to check out, this was at the top of it, just to see. The photo sets, as few as the good ones are, are pretty hot. Really odd though that their base price would be so high with so little content. They're not even in the same league with many bigger sites (like 1byday) that give you so much more for your money.

Funny thing, after submitting this review, my download speeds have gone down the toilet. Maybe the webmaster read my review??? LOL

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RE: IKnoPorn's Review

Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:46:48 PDT

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07-07-08 09:46pm

REVIEW REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To IKnoPorn (22):

Damn - I tried to warn you in my comments in the other review - the update rate of this site is just ridiculously poor.

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RE: New Site

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:48:20 PDT

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07-02-08 09:48pm

COMMENT REPLY by Canyon (0)

To PinkPanther (44):

PinkPanther, thanks for your detailed response. I currently have or have had memberships at a number of those sites. The Femjoy/Met-Arts of the world have some amazing girls but the sites bore me after awhile. I would prefer the FTV and ALS style sites more.

FTV updates once per week and ALS although they have daily updates probably only 2 are something new.

I guess I was impressed with what the guy from Superglam was telling me as I have always loved some of the specific girls they have featured. "Veronica Fasterova" :)

I hope the updates improve like he told me they were. I spoke with him today and was told that the ownership had changed in the past month and the new site would have more frequent updates.

In June it looks like they had 3 video and 3 picture updates.

I'm going to have to go check out a few of the ones you mentioned that I'm not familiar with :)
Can I borrow ur credid card? hehe

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RE: New Site

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:41:53 PDT

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07-02-08 07:41pm

COMMENT REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To Canyon (0):

Sites that update daily with super-hot girls & exclusive content

Met Art
LSG Models
MPL Studios
Femjoy
Babes.tv (6 days a week - 3 days of pics, 3 days of vids)

Sites that update several times a week with super-hot girls & exclusive content

ALS Scan (with 1 remastered update a week)
FTV Girls
Watch4Beauty

And then you look at Superglam's updates

sometimes 3 days, sometimes 15 days between pic updates
sometimes 2 days, sometimes 2 weeks between vid updates

You can convince yourself that's reasonable if you want. I'll vote with my wallet and stay the hell away from it. It's just not a reasonable rate of updates as compared to what else is available.

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RE: New Site

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:42:14 PDT

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07-01-08 09:42pm

COMMENT REPLY by Canyon (0)

To PinkPanther (44):

Yes, I agree but the other sites that I know of that update daily are regular hardcore sites with dvd content.

Sites with exclusive content of superhot girls only update once or twice a week unless like ALS they are updating old remastered videos and such

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RE: New Site

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:36:11 PDT

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07-01-08 06:36pm

COMMENT REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To Canyon (0):

Regular updates coming? As Denner noted in his other comment, their update schedule is a joke when you compare it to other high quality glamour sites that give at least one new update a day. That's pretty much a deal-breaker for me.

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:21:22 PDT

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06-07-08 06:21am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To mr smut (40):

Thanks for the congrats, bro.....
And - Inessa - she's a doll - but I know for sure she's in quite a few sites - right now I simply cannot remmember her other alias'es.
Or which sites....

I bet the Drooler can help you there!!!!

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:13:26 PDT

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06-07-08 06:13am

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To Denner (227):

Yes, that's true and I guess I'd like to search for more on Inessa which is my favourite girl from superglam.com. They should fire their whole marketing department and start to do regular updates.

Congrats for having all the badges now! You deserve them :-)

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:53:48 PDT

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06-07-08 05:53am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To mr smut (40):

Exactly, mr smut....It's amazing - in the negative meaning of the word - that this site still carpet-bomb former users with statements of how great the site is - and the reality is completly in another neck of the woods....
And agree - some very fine models here in exclusive video/photosets - but - bottom line - we can find the same models elsewhere. (Lucky, for one - at for exampel 1ByDay - and I've seen her in some b/g hc too - do not remember where right now....

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:23:57 PDT

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06-07-08 05:23am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Tnanks for that one, my honorable "brother-in-arms"......!!!!!!!!

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:00:23 PDT

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06-07-08 05:00am

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Thanks, Denner, for the latest on Super-Laggardly SuperGlam. They're pretty naughty, but in the wrong way!

Speaking of things that took far too long, congrats also on finally getting your "Trusted User" badge. Anybody around here have issues with trusting m'man Denner? Well, then, I got a problem with that!

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RE: Still trying, but.....

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:56:48 PDT

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06-07-08 03:56am

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To Denner (227):

Thanks for this warning. I can't believe that they now do less updates than they used to when I was a member there. It's a shame because they have a lot of real sexy models to offer *ggrrr*

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Super Glam Comment

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:29:57 PDT

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06-07-08 03:29am

COMMENT by Denner (227)

Still trying, but.....

Ok, now Super Glam also has a price of $19.90 here at TBP - I joined for that price via the Rabbit a couple of weeks ago.

Normal price: 34.95
But even at this new bargain I still consider Super Glam a joke and an insult to pornusers.
Just look at the updates compared to major sites:

Videos added:
April 27 - May 28 - June 7

Photosets:
May 6 - May 24 - June 7

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RE: Not much new here!

Wed, 21 May 2008 08:43:51 PDT

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05-21-08 08:43am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Right you are, pal....and nothing to go back for.

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RE: Not much new here!

Tue, 20 May 2008 11:51:16 PDT

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05-20-08 11:51am

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Hey, Denner!

Thanks for the latest news on one of my favorite web sites! ;-)

The Rabbit rate might get some folks in quicker to visit this update Turtle. They should paint themselves a wall while they're at it so they can watch it dry.

I haven't been anywhere near since, what, sometime last year? And I'm not goin' back, either!

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RE: Not much new here!

Tue, 20 May 2008 10:50:57 PDT

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05-20-08 10:50am

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To Denner (227):

Oh, and b.t.w. at $38.80 per month I'd also expect to have pictures sized at >3000px on the long side while still being sharp and crystal clear. ALS is a good example as they offer lots of content in good quality and up to 4 full picture sets per week plus 7 vids and the new stuff being HD quality.

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RE: Not much new here!

Tue, 20 May 2008 10:42:02 PDT

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05-20-08 10:42am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To mr smut (40):

Agree - and at that price: $38.80 - it's rip-off...and even the $19.95 via Rabbit is too much.

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RE: Not much new here!

Tue, 20 May 2008 10:11:32 PDT

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05-20-08 10:11am

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To Denner (227):

It's exactly the same situation that I was facing while being a member. Only a few updates in several months. Not exactly what they are promising to the public :-(

Thanks for this information!

Cheers,
Smut

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Super Glam Comment

Tue, 20 May 2008 03:18:19 PDT

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05-20-08 03:18am

COMMENT by Denner (227)

Not much new here!

Joined the much discussed Super Glam - but only because exotics4me hinted a cheaper way via the Rabbit ($19.95) and not the outrageous normal price of over 38 bucks. (thanks, exotics4me)

But very disapoiting in updates and amount of content - especially in regards to their heavy promotions og promisses. I don't bother with a review, but just some short info:

Only 15 video-updates in 2008
ONLY 23 photoset-updates in 2008
And, man - we're alomst in the middle of the year!
(But, Drooler: the zip works ok, now)
They have a tag called "Future Updates": It's empty

The videos are still only in mpg - and certainly NOT in todays quality standard - not even the newer videos

Glad I did not waste 38 bucks here....

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RE: What's new?

Mon, 19 May 2008 02:35:33 PDT

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05-19-08 02:35am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To exotics4me (431):

Thanks - jolly good tip, exotics4me
I'll let you know about things - if I join.

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RE: What's new?

Sun, 18 May 2008 18:21:32 PDT

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05-18-08 06:21pm

COMMENT REPLY by exotics4me (431)

To Denner (227):

Hey Denner, For one thing the price has gone up to $38 a month, but if you go over to Rabbit's Reviews, you can get a special price of $19.90 per month, if you do that just make sure it says, "discounted price" on the Super Glam join page, I was just checking it out and it kept showing $1.29 per day for 30 days, which is $38. I finally went to rabbits reviews with the Opera browser and the special price was available $19.90 for a month. I may re-join it, haven't been there in awhile and I have seen that they have a full fishnet bodysuit set of Aneta Keys.

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RE: What's new?

Sun, 18 May 2008 12:26:42 PDT

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05-18-08 12:26pm

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To Denner (227):

I'd like to know too. I was a member for more than six months about 1 1/2 years ago. I simply forgot to cancel my subscription because I was so busy at that time. After accidentally having found out that I was still paying I got extremely pissed because of their way of releasing photo shoots. Still I had shoots not being fully available!

Ever since I cancelled my subscription I get lots of mails saying that they give away memberships for free to the first 100 that subscribe ... I'm not stupid enough to give it a try I guess ;o)

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Super Glam Comment

Sat, 17 May 2008 08:22:43 PDT

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05-17-08 08:22am

COMMENT by Denner (227)

What's new?

Just for the heck of it.
We've had some cons. about this site - with good reason. (Do not freak out now, Drooler)
But I still wonder: Are they getting any better since our discussions in late summer/fall last year!......or is it still the same old, yeah, some kind of bullshit regarding this probably most persistent promoted sites of all.
Reason I ask the PUs is I stumbled over some fine eateuropean escort-girls (site-wise) and they all have their videos/photos here - maybe again bullshit. Bottom line: Anybody been here lately?

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:45:59 PDT

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04-28-08 01:45pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (95)

To Drooler (218):

Lol...sorry, but I was looking into this when I saw your very negative feelings about this site.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:05:24 PDT

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04-28-08 03:05am

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To jd1961 (95):

You mean that all this time you've been communicating with someone who hasn't even been here? ;)

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:52:08 PDT

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04-27-08 11:52pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (95)

To Drooler (218):

You've got 2 months to go !!

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:00:10 PST

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11-27-07 03:00am

COMMENT REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To Drooler (218):

Close - Rip Off Bitch - dancers who have no interest in providing any entertainment whatsoever to the guys - they just want as much money as they can get. The opposite are high-satisfaction dancers - they're working, too, but they want the guys that spend money on them to be happy they did so.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:16:41 PST

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11-25-07 08:16am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Great news, Drooler.
I somewhat missed a fellow player and opponent (are that the right english words)in this game.......
It was getting a little boring without the Drooler-touch.
It's always more fun to have qualified response.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:54:52 PST

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11-25-07 04:54am

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Thanks, Denner. I'm getting back into PU more now. On the "local" front, finding never-opened zips and of course more girls with multiple aliases.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:51:13 PST

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11-20-07 11:51am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Hey Drooler

Above all: Welcome back - hope you stay.
It's not been quite the same without you.

But your right: signup - and there're still ripoffs now and then - no matter how good you get checking things out....

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:06:57 PST

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11-19-07 02:06pm

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To PinkPanther (44):

About TheBestPorn, it was their positive subsequent reviews that got me back to SuperGlam and my utter disappointment, which lead me to ask myself what to do. It was one misrepresentation and ripoff too many for me. Believe me, I've had my share. So I said, "NO MORE!"

Agreed that the fun is finding and enjoying the great ones, but that as far as my own tastes are concerned is what I've already done. I've looked and looked and there are no more at this time. So I'm waiting a good long while and looking forward to lots of content buildup once my waiting period is over.

Like, July 1st, 2008, the clock strikes midnight ... click "submit!"

BTW, what's an ROB dancer? "Rude Old Bitch?" I can't figure that one out.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:53:37 PST

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11-19-07 01:53pm

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Hey Denner,
I have dropped in and thought I ought to at least answer some of the replies. The SuperGlam experience was the final straw for me. Just got fed up with the bs. Totally.

No signups = no ripoffs.

So I've been going through my already enormous collection and finding that, oh, Anita is also called Paulina, etc. etc. I've turned into a freakin' porn librarian (LOL).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone else taking a long break like I'm doing, but it works for me. It does mean putting off the fun of "new porn," but next time, I'll be getting gobs for less, and only from the trusted and true.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:32:51 PST

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11-19-07 01:32pm

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To asmith12 (124):

I understand where you're coming from, and that's where I used to be, but I'm still at a "burnout" point. I've been through LOTS of sites. And the SuperGlam experience, being one of several recent ripoffs, just broke the proverbial camel's back.

And actually, I'm looking forward to a nice buildup of content on my favorite sites after my being away for a good, good long while.

Anyway, I dropped in to keep my membership at PU alive (don't know the actual terms on login frequency to do that but whatever). Thought I ought to at least answer my "mail."

Thanks again.

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RE: Gone ... well, not fishin'!

Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:57:21 PDT

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10-18-07 06:57pm

COMMENT REPLY by PinkPanther (44)

To asmith12 (124):

To me giving up on porn sites because there are some rip-off sites around - if that weren't the case, why would The Best Porn.com and this site be so helpful - is like giving up on going to strip clubs because there are some ROB dancers. The fun is finding and enjoying the great ones.

Enjoy your break, Drooler - it's good to take a break when you're just plain fed up.

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