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RE: Denner's Review

Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:36:13 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

10-05-11 12:36pm

REVIEW REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Yeah, I like photosets to start where things start, with some sexy facial expressions and alluring eyes, and some threads to peel off as the girl is showing you what she got.

So why MC-Nudes prefers to start at a later point is beyond me ... with pics, anyway. Now with vids, it's a different story with Ze Droolah. I like to get them started "in the middle," assuming they're hardcore. (Not MC-Nudes, of course, but hardcore from other points of access.)

I suppose that sounds kinda of inconsistent. Well, it is. And weird, 'cause it's softcore with foreplay but "straight to it" when there's actual sex.

I just don't understand it myself.

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RE: Denner's Review

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 05:37:12 PDT

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10-03-11 05:37am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Thanks for that FYI, Ze Droolah.....
But it also makes me wonder:
Why start "in the middle" of an entire photoset?
It kind of reminds me of "wham-bam-thank-you ect...." - where you miss all the "foreplay", which also goes for solo material, sets and vids...I've seen it with vids too many times, alas...

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RE: Denner's Review

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:24:02 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

10-02-11 08:24am

REVIEW REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

Hey Denner,
Speaking of Zombies (and with all due respect to Rod Argent), I've just noticed that some of the photo content of Lizzie Ryan that was on Teenrotica has been showing up at MC-Nudes. The pics are bigger, but fewer. The Teenrotica stuff of course takes you through a big, long stripping session, with lots of pics, but the MC-Nudes starts kind of "in the middle," shall we say.

FYI ...

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RE: No updates

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:59:56 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

09-19-11 06:59am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Khan (Staff):

Guess it was this:

"Details: content count hasn't changed since March, 2010."

Got to learn to look at that "Content Updates"......

Thanks!

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RE: Denner's Review

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:24:43 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

09-19-11 06:24am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

Drooler, I like that "zombie" site input. That suits it well. Teenrotica is nowhere near "downright lousy" - maybe except for the vids - but I have rally enjoyed quite a few of the pix sets - BUT: with no more updates..."Hasta la vista, baby" - have already canceled rebill.....

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RE: No updates

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:32:32 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

09-18-11 07:32am

COMMENT REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To Denner (227):

We do show the date last updated as March, 2010

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RE: Denner's Review

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:36:48 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

09-17-11 12:36pm

REVIEW REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

I don't know what that "24b" means, either. They're 72 dpi (dots per inch), if that's part of any equation. It's a common resolution on the web, 72 dpi.

Anyway ... Teenrotica is what I call a "zombie" site, the kind that lives on well past its days of content-generating life. It's probably a decent "cash cow" for the owners, with no more content to produce and new subscribers coming along to plunk down their dough for a big fat download session.

The funny thing is, Denner, that I thought it deserved a 65 for the pics when I did my review of it 2007! I even said so, but gave it an 80 because of the vids! Ain't that a kick?

Well, these days, it ought to get a 65 just for being a dusty old zombie site, LOL.

Oh, BTW, it is exclusive material, so that speaks well of it. It's also the first site where I saw Lizzie Ryan! Yeeeeooowww!!

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Teenrotica Comment

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:35:30 PDT

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09-17-11 09:35am

COMMENT by Denner (227)

No updates

In connection with my review it was mentioned by tangub that the site seems to have stopped updating.
This seems to be a fact - as a member I've seen no updates for at least three weeks, so.....
Maybe this update-stop could be mentioned at TBP? It's rather essential for PUs.

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Teenrotica Comment

Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:17:25 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

09-10-11 10:17am

COMMENT by dracken (213)

First impression

Decided to join this site since I wanted to get some more images of teens and young adult models. No complaint there. A lot of galleries of European models, a lot of cute outfits and a bunch of stockings. The action is a bit formulaic indeed (stripping, play with themselves a bit and dildo) but I'm not sure how much variation they could have seeing as everything here is solo action

The videos are actually not all that bad, but only solo action here.

Also I'm uncertain what their update schedule is. I've only been a member for less than a week and have seen no new stuff yet, maybe things will look better in a month. Will update as soon as I understand how they work.

PS. wanted to mention their high quality is around 1,333px � 2,000px and the low is around 400px � 600px

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RE: Denner's Review

Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:09:09 PDT

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09-10-11 08:09am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To tangub (103):

If they really stopped updating in 2009 this should be verified and informed at TBP...

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RE: Denner's Review

Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:35:38 PDT

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09-10-11 02:35am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To dracken (213):

I'm not very tech about pix - but the sets (the large size) I've downloaded says:
2000x1338x24b
Guess that 24b is bits?

Hope that helps!

Or maybe Drooler sees this - he's been a member -and has much more knowledge about pix than I have...

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RE: Denner's Review

Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:19:12 PDT

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09-09-11 10:19am

REVIEW REPLY by tangub (103)

To Denner (227):

I believe this site stopped updating in 2009. I was there in the back end of 2009 and the updates had already stopped and looking through the tour i don't see anything new from when i was there. I think they have removed the dates from the content to cover up the fact they are no longer updating so those poor quality 2011 vids you mention are probably a few years old. As a pic fan i quite enjoyed what i got from the site for what its worth but without updates i won't be going back.

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RE: Denner's Review

Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:29:21 PDT

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09-09-11 09:29am

REVIEW REPLY by dracken (213)

To Denner (227):

Good review man. Sorry to hear that the site is not really up to modern day standards.

Since the site focuses on images, would you mind talking a bit about the images? Like what sizes do you get? If they are HD and competitive to Met-art or such sites I might maybe consider joining...

Thanks anyways for the work on this one :)

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RE: Kalle's Review

Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:17:46 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-23-11 12:17am

REVIEW REPLY by Kalle (1)

To messmer (123):

Thank you for your welcome messmer :o) I have to admit that it was kind of fun to write a review as I have never done that before. Maybe more will follow ;o) I will have a look into to the forum as well as you mentioned :o)

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:17:38 PDT

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06-22-11 11:17am

REVIEW REPLY by messmer (123)

To Kalle (1):

Welcome to PU, Kalle. Your review exemplifies why I like it here so much because you mentioned some of my pet peeves like focus in the wrong places, repetitive pictures in sets, low video quality etc. This way I won't subscribe to this site. Stick around and start reviewing other sites, this way I might find some more I like! :-) We're of great help to each other here and one more user is always warmly welcomed. Don't forget to look into our Forum, we have our quiet periods but we also have lively discussions at times and all is civilized!

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:26:18 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-22-11 10:26am

REVIEW REPLY by Kalle (1)

To tangub (103):

Thank you tangub. It is good to be here :o) Yes, I agree with you totally on the repetetive issue. The photographers seem to only have a few ideas of what to do when it comes to the scenes. With exclusive content you would expect a bit more "interesting" themes. For exempel a bit more up and close with the models. "Let us get to know the models a bit" - It would definitely have helped the site out.

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:03:19 PDT

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06-22-11 10:03am

REVIEW REPLY by tangub (103)

To RustyJ (116):

Rusty I was there 18 months ago and it had already stopped updating by then and taking a quick look at the models in the tour i don't see anything new added that i haven't already downloaded back then.

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:01:49 PDT

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06-22-11 10:01am

REVIEW REPLY by tangub (103)

To Kalle (1):

Welcome to PU Kalle and nice first review. I have to admit i found the photo sets a bit repetetive when i was there, it was an ok site but i wouldn't go back again and would tend to agree with your score.

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:39:05 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-22-11 08:39am

REVIEW REPLY by Kalle (1)

To Denner (227):

Yes, I know the feeling ;o) No fun getting teased into joining a super-fresh site by its design and previews only to find out that it is filled with "vintage" porn ;o)

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:29:23 PDT

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06-22-11 08:29am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To Kalle (1):

You will, Kalle, You will - spend some quality time here...there is no better place to get fine knowledge - and warnings - of paysites.
Unlike a lot of other "similar" sites this one really has the ups and downs for your search - PU is folks like you and I looking for fine porn and not wanting to get 'burned'........

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:23:31 PDT

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06-22-11 08:23am

REVIEW REPLY by Kalle (1)

To RustyJ (116):

Hi Rusty. Thank you for the welcome. I have just been a member for a day or two, but will keep an eye on the update frequency and let you know. As far as I could see there are no dates mentioned on the sets so it might be a while between the updates. It might be one of the sites that are having a hard time these days.

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:19:46 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-22-11 08:19am

REVIEW REPLY by Kalle (1)

To Denner (227):

Thank you Denner. Looking forward to spending some quality time at TBP and PU :o)

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:45:50 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-22-11 07:45am

REVIEW REPLY by RustyJ (116)

To Kalle (1):

Welcome to the PU! That one's surely a site that hasn't been brought up in a long time! Is it still updating?

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RE: Kalle's Review

Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:45:10 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

06-22-11 07:45am

REVIEW REPLY by Denner (227)

To Kalle (1):

Nice review and update
Yes, the site tends to feel somewhat out-dated - even when I was there almost a year ago.
Things has - apparently - not changed much - but good to know this, Kalle and again thanks for the update........and welcome to a Norwegian from a Dane - you'll enjoy this TBP/PU, I bet.....

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RE: Teens?

Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:08:22 PST

Teenrotica (2)

11-12-10 12:08pm

COMMENT REPLY by paul76 (1)

To jd1961 (95):

One thing i can't stand is sites that use older chicks and call them teens. "Teens" should mean 19 max.

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RE: Still updating?

Tue, 26 May 2009 01:15:48 PDT

Teenrotica (2)

05-26-09 01:15am

COMMENT REPLY by ksauz (0)

To Drooler (218):

Hello!
It seems there has been no update since few weeks or may be months...

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RE: Still updating?

Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:15:00 PST

Teenrotica (2)

01-28-09 03:15pm

COMMENT REPLY by Drooler (218)

To Denner (227):

TBP hasn't updated their review of it since May 2006, so maybe we'll get the scoop from them perhaps? Time will tell ...

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RE: Still updating?

Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:27:53 PST

Teenrotica (2)

01-28-09 07:27am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Drooler (218):

I plead guilty...been lurkin' here several times and waiting for two thing:
1) The updates
2) The conversion-rates to get straight.

So I look for news about this site, too...

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Teenrotica Comment

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:25:57 PST

Teenrotica (2)

01-27-09 01:25pm

COMMENT by Drooler (218)

Still updating?

Being an incurable lurker, I've noticed at this site that the visitor's previews no longer show dated updates. Are they still updating or has this site gone the way of the "'nuff-new-stuff" sites like czech-babes, snapgirls, and thenextgirl?

Anybody in the know?

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:49:39 PST

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12-04-08 08:49am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To jd1961 (95):

Looks like Lupes little sister -:)
Not bad...

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:51:08 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 07:51pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (95)

To Denner (227):

Here's a new teen site I'm about to join. I see TBP just listed it:

Tiny Tabby

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:14:39 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 03:14pm

COMMENT REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To Khan (Staff):

Please believe me, I understand the staff puts a lot of effort into making P-U and The Best-Porn the best it can be.

I was not trying to criticize you or the staff-owners in any way.

I was just commenting-saying that the prices of some of these sites change a lot, and that some kind of active link might be useful to automatically update the current price.

But I don't know programming, so I don't know how easy-difficult that would be to put on The Best-Porn site.

I, and almost all the members of P-U, do appreciate the effort you have put into making PU and The Best-Porn useful and valuable sites for us. (We also like the lottery, even tho I have not won anything yet. But I hope to keep trying until I do win.)

As for regional pricing, until you informed me in a previous post, as I already said, I was not even aware there was such a thing.

I'm not a newbie in porn, but what I do not know is enormous.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:52:20 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 12:52pm

COMMENT REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To lk2fireone (116):

If you'll note, TBP/PU has already corrected the price listed.

Yes, the prices of sites DO change a LOT. Our (very hard working) staff make every effort to keep our listings current and accurate. As well as spot checking sites, we are VERY attentive when PornUsers mentions a price has changed.

With regards to regional pricing, we have no way of knowing what those outside the US might be charged on any given day. Where we KNOW a site is using regional pricing, the editors make a notation on the site's listing.

We're sorry we're not perfect ... trust me, it's not from lack of trying. :)

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:48:12 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 12:48pm

COMMENT REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To Denner (227):

I personally have no interest in getting into a protracted discussion about regional pricing. Truthfully, this discussion would be better suited to the forum than focused on a specific site. Still, as it's repeatedly come up in this "thread" I'll share a little info in hopes of letting users here understand the issue.

First off, those who keep referring to a wrong exchange rate don't seem to have grasped what regional pricing is. It is NOT an exchange rate .. has nothing to do with an normal currency exchange rate. It IS about charging a different price based on where the customer is from.

In other aspects of life, it seems not only common, but acceptable to be charged different prices for the same thing based on where you're buying (or where you're from). For instance, what I pay for a DVD or a cup of Starbucks coffee will vary greatly depending on where I purchase it. Another example, lk2fireone mentions (above) where he was being charged a higher rate than local citizens (while visiting Europe), for the same items, even though he was paying in the local currency. Still, it's a fairly recent development for porn sites and understandably, it's not being well accepted by those who are having to pay more.

The reason you're seeing it more for purchases made through CCBill is because CCBill, in their interface for the site owners, has added a feature making it easy and convenient for site owners to enable regional pricing. It's the actual site owner who's deciding to charge more based on where you're at, not CCBill. They (CCBill) just handle the transaction according to the site owner's instructions.

Is it understandable that some porn surfers are upset at paying more for the same product ... sure. Are tourist upset when they're charged more than locals ... you bet. Is this something that you can expect to see more of ... my guess is yes. Can anything be done about it ... sometimes, writing the webmaster and letting them know you're aware you're getting charged more is enough to prompt them to give you a better price.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:10:18 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 08:10am

COMMENT REPLY by messmer (123)

To mr smut (40):

Thanks for the reply, Smut. I think the best bet would be to deal almost exclusively with Epoch from now on, as suggested by Denner, because it's not the first time or the first site that CCBill charged way more than the going rate. Their conversion table must have been misplaced. :-)

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:06:09 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 08:06am

COMMENT REPLY by messmer (123)

To Denner (227):

That's a great tip, Denner. Come to think of it, every time I used Epoch they always charged me in U.S. Dollars and then converted it to Canadian Dollars at the going rate. Must try that with the next site I join. Might be a while, though, because our Dollar is still in free fall. :-(

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:33:25 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 06:33am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Khan (Staff):

Khan, please see my reply to messmer...
I will add to that: It's only CCBill that has these "reginal pricings" - as far as I have experienced - and Only for some sites - a growning number of sites with CCBill as the only billing-co. has changed that policy (or is it CCBill?) which means that the price in Euro are now exactly the same as if you paid in Dollars - even down to the smallest decimal..
A few - like the mentioned Teenrotica - has still not changed that.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:22:57 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 06:22am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To messmer (123):

Yeah, I think it stinks.
Strangely enough it's practically only CCBill that keep those high prices regarding difference in currency.
Epoch do not - a couple of times or more I've written to the webmaster about the CCBill-price, and - man, they send me a link to join via Epoch at the price stated at TBP....in US-dollars!

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:19:41 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 06:19am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To jd1961 (95):

Abolutely agree, but jd - some of the girls/models still look awesome - in the previe, anyway.
But again - the words "teens" are a little too much...

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:18:03 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 06:18am

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To lk2fireone (116):

Yes - something like 90% of the sites I join is paid in US-dollars - typical through CCBill or Epoch.
BTW: Epoch is the best in regarding the dollars-payment...

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:53:24 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-03-08 01:53am

COMMENT REPLY by mr smut (40)

To messmer (123):

Hello Messmer,

they surely do. There's a lot of services available for geo location based on the ip address you have (fixed) or get (using dial-in to a pool of ip addresses your provider owns) when going online. Like for instance http://www.ip2location.com/ or http://www.geobytes.com/ipLocator.htm

I had trouble with some sites one of them actually didn't know that this feature was active for them. After letting them know they urged their billing company to turn that off a.s.a.p. :-)

Cheers,
Smut

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:51:22 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 07:51pm

COMMENT REPLY by messmer (123)

To lk2fireone (116):

Thanks for the info! CCBill automatically quotes the Canadian price, I guess they keep track of the DNS from where the request is coming so I had no idea that the price was higher compared to that quoted by TBP.
CCBill nevertheless were willing to charge way more than the official rate. But as Khan stated other factors might play a role.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:27:27 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 07:27pm

COMMENT REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To messmer (123):

Listed price at the site is: $29.95 US for 30 days recurring.
Listed price at the site is: $39.95 US for 30 days non-recurring.

TheBestPorn lists price as $24.94 US for 30 days recurring.

But TheBestPorn price is not a discounted price (at least no indication that price is discounted).

So the price might have changed since it was listed at TBP.

The prices at many of these sites change a lot, and you really need a dynamic link to keep up with the price changes, if you want to stay current (and then you need to list the discounted price from TBP as well, if there is one).

As far as model Stefany, she looks way past her teenage years. But many sites advertise "teens" that are way past that age. These sites sell youth, not truth. We all know that, even if we don't like admitting it to ourselves.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:58:21 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 06:58pm

COMMENT REPLY by messmer (123)

To Denner (227):

Would you believe that it would have cost me CAD 42.92 through CCBill this evening if I had wanted to subscribe to this site. The official conversion rate at this very moment is approx. 80 cents U.S. for one Canadian dollar which would make it $ 31.12 Canadian. Who gets my extra ten dollars? CCBill?

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:51:44 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 06:51pm

COMMENT REPLY by jd1961 (95)

To Denner (227):

Let me ask you something.
When you go to the homepage there's a Stefany there. Does she look like a teen to you?
She looks about 38 !

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:20:09 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 06:20pm

COMMENT REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To Khan (Staff):

I only started looking at this site sometime in November, 2008, so there are a lot of posts I haven't read.

I haven't read about regional pricing.

I'm a US citizen. When I took a trip to some European countries, at some places, I was aware that as a tourist, I was being charged a higher rate than local citizens, for the same items, even though I was paying in the local currency.

Which I did not think was fair. But I couldn't do anything about the price difference I was charged. I was not the only one being charged a higher rate. All the people in our tour group were charged the same rate (except for the tour guides, who also got a lower rate).

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:05:52 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 06:05pm

COMMENT REPLY by Khan (Staff)

To lk2fireone (116):

It sounds like you may have missed some of the discussions that have gone on here about "regional pricing". That's the practice of charging a different rate depending on the location the person is at. It's not just a matter of currency conversion.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:54:15 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 05:54pm

COMMENT REPLY by lk2fireone (116)

To Denner (227):

Isn't there some way to pay in US dollars even if you live in Europe?
I live in US, and have paid in foreign currency for some transactions with a credit card. The credit card company (I think it was mastercard) charged me an additional 3% above the conversion rate. And the conversion rate was not as good as that quoted on Wall Street (for major financial transactions), but that still seems better than the rates that are being offered to you for Euros.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:59:07 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 03:59pm

COMMENT REPLY by Denner (227)

To Denner (227):

Like mr smut and The Squirrel I've seen this more and more - and like these fellow users I think it's a rip off and a speculation in earnings only - a bit like when some site "pre-mark" another site when joining one.
"Maybe those european do not notice the difference"

But ok, some sites have equalized the cost: $/Euro to the same in the end, Great!
And some sites even offers you a helping hand with a different link to join in US dollars even if your're placed in Europe (after writing to the webmaster) Great too.

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RE: Again: Currency speculations

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:48:36 PST

Teenrotica (2)

12-02-08 03:48pm

COMMENT REPLY by TheSquirrel (30)

To Denner (227):

It seems to me this is happening more and more. I don't think it's imagination. These conversion rates are just set for rip off. If it's poor value or a relative rip off, I'm just not buying.

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