+ Great viewing/download features.
+ Lengthy, good quality, full-length videos.
+ Model index with stats.
+ Entertaining/interesting content. - Navigational features could be improved. - Images are somewhat grainy.
User Reviews (14)
User reviews consist of pros, cons, and other thoughts.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
-Bill through Epoch.
-Very original and creative concept of mixing realistic competitive nude wrestling with lesbian sex.
-Videos as good as 1280x720, 7158 kbps. Advertised as HD and very crisp.
-298 hour long videos. The archive goes back to August 2004.
-Streaming available. There are four download options-HD WMV, WMV, MP4 and Ipod.
-No DRM or download restrictions. I downloaded most of the site in one day with no problems.
-Download manager friendly.
-Updates are five times a month.
-Photo sets for each video. Zipdownloadable, both high and low resolution, about 200 per set. 1200x675, but fairly sharp.
Cons:
-Not part of any network. All kink.com sites are priced individually, but there is a discounted price for second and more websites joined at the same time.
-Only occasionally clear explicit nudity. The videos mostly are shot from too far away with no closeups.
-The penalty of getting fucked with a dildo is not much of an incentive to avoid losing. Try to imagine if you were wrestling and the penalty was a handjob. Would you try hard to avoid such a fate? In the post scene interviews the girls sometimes mention how much they enjoyed the fucking they got. One girl had a big smile and said she is in love. She went further to say she wouldn't mind a repeat as long as she loses.
Bottom Line:
I knew it was a long time since I was last a member, but I did not realize it was three years. The site has dramatically changed for the better in that time.
The most obvious change is growth. With five updates a month, there is a lot to see here. Next, there are now fine quality HD videos. This is a distinct improvement as some of the oldest videos are not up to today's standards. Additionally many of the older videos have been recoded and play much better than they did years ago.
Another area of improvement is in the quality of the girls. In the beginning, many of the better wrestlers had that look that is the stereotype of lesbians-short hair with tattoos, mean and tough looking. In essence they were not sexy unless that is specifically your taste and I doubt most guys would prefer that look. My how things have changed. Mostly the girls are much sexier than in the past. Many are pornstars, with the looks and bodies that most guys like(I can't speak for lesbians who may like this kind of site).
Another change is that anal scenes have become much more common. About 25 feature anal. Since many scenes are very similar I feel that adds some variety.
There are also many more videos where the matches are more even. In the past most scenes had a weak wrestler being paired with a much better one. Too predictable for my taste. Now, some of the girls beat others of equal proficiency level. It is boring to never get to see a girl you like to win, or to lose for that matter.
The biggest change for the better is that there are many tag team scenes. When last I was a member, there were none. Now there are 26. Recently these scenes are being filmed in front of a live audience that reacts to the action and occasionally interacts, but only to a small degree. The tag team concept gives the weaker girls a chance to go after the better ones with some pussy fingering, pussy rubbing etc.
The action is much more about wrestling than it is about lesbian sex, but that is my only real criticism. That is the niche that the site has chosen, so it really does deliver what it promises. Overall recommended, but not necessarily the sexiest site you have ever seen.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
+++ absolutely unique concept
++ unscripted real wrestling
++ girls are mostly friendly to each other during the wrestling (though not in last round)
+ nice girls
+ good video quality (up to HD 1280x720 at about 1.5Mbit/s)
+ updated 5 times a month (with FULL episode every time)
+ user feedback and comments
+ easy site navigation
+ full movie download (instead of ZIPs).
Cons:
- action in the last round is scripted
- not too much variety in the last round
- ZIPped video download seems to be gone (replaced with full movie download)
Bottom Line:
Recently I re-joined UltimateSurrender and found that now it became even better (sorry for marketing-speak, but that's exactly my feeling).
The site is about girls wrestling almost nude to nude while getting extra points for actions like opponent pussy fingering, smothering her face with pussy and so on. Every match starts with girls wearing panties (recently bikinis were introduced), but they are removed very quickly (panties removal of the opponent means 5 points, so they have an incentive to do it). After the wrestling, winner (with the most points) gets to punish the loser in the so-called "final round", which usually includes mild humiliation, strap-on action (sometimes anal), forced pussy licking and so on.
Kink.com says that wrestling is unscripted, and I do believe it (they're about the only site I believe is unscripted); recently they even started to do some matches in front of live audience. Final round though is scripted almost for sure (or at least very strict restrictions are placed on the winners), which obviously reduces variety of final round a bit.
Video quality is very decent (up to HD 1280x720 at about 1.5Mbit/s; non-HD is also quite good with 960x540 at about 1MBit/s, pictures can be downloaded as ZIPs, recently an option to download whole video has been introduced (instead of ZIP with video parts).
Since my previous review UltimateSurrender has made several improvements, which contributed to making the site "even better". Most importantly,
they introduced tag team matches; one cannot overestimate their importance, they change the game and overall feeling COMPLETELY. The next thing was that they have made tag team matches translated 'live' and in front of live audience (which added some additional twist and adds a bit of variety). As for more minor changes, they have introduced bikinis (IMHO nice touch, but would be nicer if points are given for top removal too), provided a bit better video quality and
fixed problems with their previous crappy login system (now it works like a breeze, no need to relogin after leaving session unattended for a few hours).
Overall, after coming to this site once again, I almost lost doubt that as of now, it is THE VERY BEST site on the net for me personally, so I've upgraded it's rating to 98 (the very first 98 I've ever set on PornUsers).
Bottom line: if you are not scared by "girls-only" action and by the very concept of female wrestling, you shall at least take a look at their tour pages; BTW, better samples about this and the other kink.com sites can be found on free-hardcore.com . Admittedly, it is so unusual, that it can be "love-it-or-hate-it", but if you like the tour and samples, I think you will like it inside too.
Was a member approx. 4 months prior to this review.
Pros:
- Lovely models (mostly)
- HQ pics & vids
- Site well organized
Cons:
- Too much the same formual
- Fight rounds too long, hence total shoots FAR too long. Should be cut by half and spent more time on final round where trhe victor has her way with the loser.
- Too many scene have rough sex, I understand that this is a BDSM site, but for me, gagging, sudden spinal jolting, hair pulling, has no erotic appeal. Spanking is fine, but anything which endangers the sub's spinal alignment or her airway is a no-np
- Instead of the current MC (Matt), I would prefer to see one (or two) super-fit, leanly built mean-looking guys, dressed up to the nines.
Bottom Line:
Site has good potential, but makes serious and pnvious blunders, which rob it of real erptic spice.
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
Pros:
- Great idea
- Attractive Models and Participants
- Video Quality is Better
- Believable Action
Cons:
- Repetitive in Nature
- Better Photos
- Large Files - not segmented
Bottom Line:
This is a very cool idea and it may be great for those into this type of action. It was decent at first, but really missed on the editing and action. There was way too much holding and not enough take downs and action.
The penalty phase at the end of the match didn't seem to be much of penalty. It may have been better if losing the match actually cost the participants a true "hardship" not sure what would work, but getting drilled by a strap on didn't seem to much of a penalty.
Was a member approx. 6 months prior to this review.
Pros:
-Some models perform with spunk, devoting much energy into their time on camera, be it wrestling or screwing.
-Pre and post-match interviews were a hoot.
-Everyone is breathing hard & sweating by the end of each clip. Lots of legit sounding gunts, groans and moans.
Cons:
-Sex loses some spark when its always occuring on that hard floor.
-The site had five Black models, all of whom had their clocks cleaned by their White opponents. I know the outcome is rigged but how about some variation to this theme?
-The location has the same charm as a Greyhound bus station.
Bottom Line:
Certainly an acquired taste, the single malt whiskey of the sapphic porn. Download limits dulled my m'ship experience, but I am led to understand these speedbumps have been revoked.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
* A Whopping 205 Matches (4 videos each, one per round)
* Multiple Vid Formats (iPod, WMV, Real, Streaming Real Hi/Low)
* High Res WMV Video (960x540, 856kbps) – NO DRM
* Download Managers work - approx. 500kbps down
* Large photos for each match (1200 x 802)
* Intense sexually themed, lesbian nude wrestling matches – refereed with points
* Each match has 3 rounds of wrestling
* The 4th Round features hardcore lesbian sex (strong domination theme)
* Wrestler stats pages great for finding matches
Cons:
* Older videos are much lower quality
* Search engine has some issues
* New video has a low bit rate – looks a little fuzzy
Bottom Line:
Ultimate Surrender has a massive amount of real, sexually themed, lesbian nude wrestling. It isn’t uncommon for the models to get hurt – it’s bad when it happens, but it goes to show how aggressively they are wrestling.
The recent seasons have great production values (multiple cameras, great lighting) and many of the wrestlers are veterans of the site now. Each match has 3 wrestling rounds – a side earns points for controlling the other and gets “style points” awarded for sexual molestation of the dominated wrestler. 4th round lets the winner(s) fuck the loser(s) any way they please (usually dominating strap-on sex).
The site design is simple, practically retro – the search engine isn’t hot, but the wrestler stats pages work very well, making it is easy to find any match. Video quality is good, but the bit rate is low, resulting in fuzzy video. Large photos come with each match.
Ultimate Surrender merges the sport of wrestling and the appeal of dominating lesbian sex, and approaches the wrestling very seriously – pre & post match interviews generally focus on strategy. It’s easy to cheer for one side – despite match outcomes being revealed (though some live matches happen too). The site delivers what it advertises very well – unique content by a reputable and customer focused company. Highly recommended.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
Pros:
- Dragon Lily might just be the sexiest Asian model on the planet!
- There is a strange fetish here of watching two women roll around and wrestle before having sex that makes this site very unique
- Videos are high quality, nearing HD levels and the videos are long if you watch the full match
- Some of the matches, the girls really look like they are pissed off at the other girl!
Cons:
- Friggin' monthly download limit of 10 GB. I can download 10 GB in one night. 20 points taken off score for this. That is a daily limit of .3 GB
- The majority of the matches are more about girls fingering each other while the other tries to act like she doesn't like it.
- Site can get very repetitive.
- Pictures are good quality, but they are in action pictures so they add very little
Bottom Line:
I didn't know there is a limit on this site. I am positive at one time, there wasn't a limit. If it was 10 GB per day or even 3 GB per day, I wouldn't take off anything, but 10 GB per month? I barely got all of the Dragon Lily matches before hitting my monthly limit. I won't be back.
As an ex-collegiate wrestler, this site really intrigued me since some of the girls look to at least know some grappling moves. The problem is a takedown nets say 10 points, while fingering for 30 seconds nets 100 points. So, there is very little real wrestling going on here. I noticed that the Asian models seem to have martial arts backgrounds and were actually quite impressive with their counters. Still, they don't get to fully show off this wrestling ability since they are trying to suck the other girl's boobs or finger her.
I am all for a woman fingering another, but it is a wrestling site. The matches are broken into rounds and the action looks to be based on these rounds. Round 2-3 will have some almost fingering and a little boob sucking, then round 4 will have the full on fingering. I did notice that some of the women really looked mad in their matches and were trying almost too hard to beat the other women.
The site leaves me torn. I can join a lesbian site if I just want to see fingering, but this does at least have some wrestling, but every match follows the same pattern.
I will use the DL limit as the make/break point that means, not recommended until they drop it!
Follow-Up:
Because kink.com removed DL Limit from this site and their other sites, I will raise the score back to where I said it would be without the limit, a 90.
*Newbie reviews and ratings don't count toward a site's overall score/rank until the user reaches the Rookie status level (5 points). This rule is needed to help prevent fake (or heavily biased) profiles and reviews.
It has been too long since I was a member to write a full review. However I still have many videos that I downloaded. The wrestling is just ok, the videos not clear enough to be really hot. It is very difficult to really see the girls in anything resembling a closeup as the shots are taken from too far away. The set has no personality, it is just the inside of a building and looks like a loft or warehouse. The sex parts are sometimes hot, but almost always vaginal use of dildos. Very rarely is there any anal use. Sometimes they seem to be not much into it, this is a real mixed bag. Using a dildo may be fun for some winners but, the best parts I felt were the forced cunt licking until orgasm. At least the winner got something out of winning. However most of the time the winner simply used a dildo vaginally on the loser or sometimes forced the loser to suck a plastic dildo, no big thrill for me,and seemed uninspired and unenthusiastic. Most of the time the winner was predictable as the matches were not close. Definitely don't join for the wrestling.
I've found that this site has improved greatly since my review. Tag teams addition is REALLY great, and overall feeling is much better too. As a result, I've upgraded score from 90 to 95 (see also a follow-up to my review).
Nice to see that some great sites are improving even further.
From the site (information for fans of Dragon Lily):
"The Dragon's stay from retirement was short lived, this will be her last match for some time if not forever. Dragon is going to be a mom! We all wish the best for her and she is very excited to begin a new chapter in her life."
It looks that kink.com finally threw away their extremely annoying login system and made a new one. It looks that this new system doesn't throw your login away in half an hour like previous one did (which was VERY annoying). Kudos to kink.com for this long-needed change.
It's official - after seeing multiple questions about the supposed it 10 Gigabyte Monthly Download limit - I hunted the FAQs on Kink.com and then finally went to the company itself. I contacted their support crew and got this response from one of their customer support guys, Elmer:
"We do not have a download limit for any of our sites. Enjoy downloading!"
So there you have it folks - none of the Kink.com sites have download limits anymore (if they ever did) - download worry-free!
I've only just subscribed to this sight, mostly because of SnowDude's review. At a glance it's really not at all my cup of tea, so to speak. I'm not heavily into competitive sports - I've never been a fan of wrestling. Generally, lesbians/bi-sexual interaction between women isn't a high-ticket item for me.
I've watched 4 of the more recent matches - avoiding the ones where the comments point out that one of the newer ladies really was just letting the other lady have her way with her. I'm totally addicted to this site.
I don't know if I have the skill to write a review, but I felt I should comment. The people behind this site have basically created a female wrestling league with a sexual twist. Most of the women have been involved in more than one season (they're up to 5), so most of them are very serious about the wrestling. But they're all very sensual women - so they love the sexual side of it, too. Most of them are really trying and in the end have a great time whether they win or lose. And most who do lose seem very driven to do better next time and really want to come back as soon as possible.
It all feels very genuine which is very different then every kind of other porn out there. Some of the women clearly didn't know what they were getting into and appear to just be waiting for it to end. But most of them are really wrestling and fucking and having a good time doing it. It's more than just porn - it's hybrid sports. Try it, I think you'll be surprised.
I just joined this site last night and I'll be posting a review in a month or whenever I feel I've really given the site a thorough look through. However, on first glance this is a pretty damn cool site! Lack of search engine is kinda lame, but it is isn't that heard to hunt around anyway - each wrestler has their own stats page and most of the girls are really serious about trying to win.
I am in no way a fan of wrestling, but I am a fan of competitive sports, and of course porn. So this is a great combination for me, I don't know if I should be psyched that there are two (or four) nude women grappling each other (and more) on the floor, or if I should cheer for "my team". Generally I find I have an instant preference for one side or the other, so it makes it easy to cheer along, even if you know the outcome. These girls really try! The action can be very fast, control switching from to the other in a blink of an eye. I'm actually surprised there aren't more injuries - but the rules seem pretty good about preventing that.
I also love the pre- and post- match discussions with the girls, they talk about technique and strategy and honestly seem to look forward to honing their wrestling skill.
Well - that's my first impression - I haven't noticed any 10GB limit yet - I'll post a complete review sometime later.
I had considered joining this site for probably the last 8 months. I never noticed a DL limit. When I went to join, I came through TBP since I thought there was a lower price with TBP. I noticed 10 GB DL limit. I went ahead and joined and honestly just got the Dragon Lily material in a few days and never went back. I guess I should have tried to get more just to see about the DL limit. There isn't anything I could find on their FAQs about DL limit. If the limit is there, I did take off 20 points on my score in the review. I've never seen a DL limit that low before 10 GB per month is 333 MB a day. Just wondering if anyone else ran into the limit or if anyone can confirm it since I would go back if that limit isn't in place.
I've know about this site for a few months now and there are a number of elements that intrigue me. However, I keep holding off on joining and I'm not exactly sure why. It's one of a handful of sites I've found that seems to feature a number of girls with short hair (a HUGE fetish of mine) and strap on sex is very high on my list of pluses, but at the same time I wonder how much the girls get into the wrestling and competitive aspect. I'm not a fan of the WWE and would probably prefer a light bondage theme more since I'm not into hardcore BDSM either.
I think that the authenticity of the site would really be a deciding factor though and even if only some of these girls come out fighting it's probably worth joining. The site is run by Kink.com which operates a number of sites, so if you got full network access I probably would have forked over the cash a long time ago but the single site access leaves me on the fence.
I will say that I watched a 2+ minute clip on the tour page of the site and I was definitely "encouraged". I like tough chicks that could be called "tomboys" by some, but sites with kick ass chicks usually tend towards the bodybuilder types which can often go too far for me. I like a fit girl who knows what she wants and goes out to get it. Actually, I like women big or small with my only real requirement being that I can't see every part of her rib cage.
So, if anyone has anything to add I'd be a happy dude. If I join I'll most certainly add a review!
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