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Would you like to see the PU points system change so that points expire after 2 years along with reviews?

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Submitted by Wittyguy (95)
No, I like the system as it is 77% 36 Votes
Not sure 15% 7 Votes
Change it, let points expire 9% 4 Votes
Other 0% 0 Votes

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47 Votes Total

Apr 12, 2009

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badandy400 (103) I say to keep it as is. People do a lot of work to get the points they have. Especially those with higher points since this is who this impacts the most.

One suggestion would be to show a point history. Much like Ebay shows a simple feedback history that displays points earned in the past month, 6 months and 12 months so that users can get an idea of how active the person is.

Overall the system as is suits the current needs. All the major users here are still contributing. The users who come and go do not have a large amount of points anyway so it is relatively easy to overtake them in points and climb the ranks.

04-12-09  12:58am

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lk2fireone (194) Change it. Let the points expire 7 days after they are first earned. That would make it a real rat race. Survival of the fittest. And the badges should be changed as well, from wimpy pervs to strength and valor. The Upthrust Cock is the badge all us pervs should be sporting. But once earned, however it is earned, the Upthrust Cock should be emblazoned on our foreheads (and foreskins, if we sport one) until we go mightily into the earth and beyond.(I've been watching some anime lately, and it's fired my imagination.)
04-12-09  01:17am

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atrapat (112) Absolutely. Reviews expire after two years for a reason so points earned for those reviews should too. It would make sense, though, to still have a counter of points earned over the years.

The four badges that depend on contributions (talk back, comments, pollster and hardcore badges) should consider only contributions during the last two years for the same reason.

04-12-09  01:53am

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Drooler (220) I wanna live in a dirty old town
Buildin' it up, tearin' it down!


If it were changed so that the points expired along with the reviews, the newer active reviewers would have a better chance of rising in the ranks ... until their points "expire" as well as those of the earlier active ones.

It could have the effect of fewer reviews from those who wouldn't like their points no longer being permanent, though there would be the temporary satisfaction of being potentially "higher" on the list with said points.

PU has undergone several changes since it started; most of them have been for the better.

This wouldn't be, though. It would unnecessarily complicate the terms of participation at this site.

Besides, I don't buy the idea that reviews over two years old are worthless. It's interesting sometimes to see how a site has fared in its growth/stagnation and its popularity/obscurity over time.

Example: Sites like Teenrotica, which have stopped updating. Reading back to reviews posted before the site went "archive only" would at least give some indication of how old the content is.

And PU doesn't discard the older reviews, so they are considered as having some value, no?

Really, it's implicitly a "values" question -- the value of history. Some folks have a greater capacity for retrospection than others.

04-12-09  02:13am

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #3 - atrapat :

For the same reason? What reason? You haven't given a reason yet.
04-12-09  02:25am

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TalonIcefire (6) "As is" is fine by me. Granted i would enjoy seeing my numbers rise. Alas, the reality of my new assignment has set in and I do not possess the time I would like to surf the porn networks. I still like to log in daily (provided my personnel network is up) and see what's going on in the forums.
04-12-09  04:49am

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james4096 (126) I did put "Not sure" because I haven't been here long enough to really know for myself if the system is the best it can be. I would like to here more arguments for both sides.
04-12-09  04:50am

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Monahan (42) REPLY TO #1 - badandy400 :

I agree.

The eBay method lets me know the quality of the buyer/seller over time as well as over the last 12 months. A person who had some rough stuff at the start but has improved a lot in the recent past can be measured differently than an outstanding buyer/seller over history who has either been very quiet lately or has recently slipped a bit in eBay's ratings.

On PU, I would like both; a score since joining and a score for the last, say, 12 months or 2 years. That way a newer member can be recognized for his current contributions and the old timers can be recognized for their longevity.

As for badges, if it isn't broken, why fix it?

As for the weekly draw, same thing. Stay with what seems to work well.

04-12-09  08:20am

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Denner (233) REPLY TO #4 - Drooler :

Once again - I totally agree with the Drooler.
Simply I do not see any point in radical changes here - I think most PUs like it as it is - just a guess, though

At the moment at lot of coorporations are into making changes - just for the sake of "change" - for no reason at all - maybe in some sort of desperation.
PU should never be desperate...and not more complicated.

BTW: The exampel with Teenrotica is just right...
SO: I like the system as it is.

04-12-09  09:23am

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atrapat (112) REPLY TO #5 - Drooler :

I'm not sure which it is, but there must be a reason why PU staff decided reviews and comments would expire after two years and no longer count towards site score. If that user-contributed content has lost part of its value, user points and badges earned from it should also lose part of its value.

What's more, reading what Khan said in the forum, it looks like the original idea leaned in this direction. In fact, I was half expecting to start losing points soon, since I wrote my first reviews about a year ago. This is the forum topic:
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=603

When, at my current rate, I eventually get the hardcore badge around the end of 2009, after more than 18 months of reviews, I will feel like those karate black-belt 12 year old kids exotics4me mentions in his post. And I will keep it for as long as PU exists, even if I were to stop contributing after that. If the original PU idea had been in place, there's no way I could ever get the hardcore badge.

04-12-09  10:44am

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Khan
PU Staff
REPLY TO #10 - atrapat :

As I mentioned in the thread you referenced ...

Yes, we did consider expiring points at one time. We've since changed our mind. For now, we plan to stick with he single point system and trust that those who don't stay active will eventually be surpassed by those who do.

04-12-09  12:11pm

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Drooler (220) REPLY TO #10 - atrapat :

I'm not sure which it is, but there must be a reason why PU staff decided reviews and comments would expire after two years and no longer count towards site score. If that user-contributed content has lost part of its value, user points and badges earned from it should also lose part of its value.

One could counter that there must have been a reason why the PU staff decided NOT to have points and badges lose their value vs. the effect of points on overall site scores. I'd say it's in fairness to all in their respective roles.

What underlies the choice is a matter of intangibles, not logic or reason. That's why I made my point above about "values." Should we treat user-earned points and badges more like academic records or more like canned soup and frequent flier miles?

What's more, reading what Khan said in the forum, it looks like the original idea leaned in this direction. In fact, I was half expecting to start losing points soon, since I wrote my first reviews about a year ago. This is the forum topic:
http://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=603

When, at my current rate, I eventually get the hardcore badge around the end of 2009, after more than 18 months of reviews, I will feel like those karate black-belt 12 year old kids exotics4me mentions in his post. And I will keep it for as long as PU exists, even if I were to stop contributing after that. If the original PU idea had been in place, there's no way I could ever get the hardcore badge.


Yes! Why lose the hardcore badge just because the earth makes a fateful rotation and your points drop just below 100? Doesn't seem right to me.

04-12-09  12:20pm

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Jay G (65) I only pay attention to the points because they tend to show who are the most active members. I appreciate the work of those who have done a lot and think the reward/point system is a clever way of encouraging active members to stay active.
04-13-09  05:57am

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RagingBuddhist (65) I'm glad to see they're not changing things. I figure I put enough into whatever I put up on here, I deserve the points - I earned 'em. I'm nowhere near the top in points but I'm not in competition with anyone either. If points mattered that much to me, I'd have a comment up for just about every site listed. I'd also have put up reviews for the sites I've joined but didn't feel I could wrap up in print properly.
04-13-09  05:15pm

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alexmedia (22) I think that better to keep points and reviews for all time.
09-20-09  07:09am

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