Wise words Toadsith - I guess I'm going to have to learn to do the same before jumping to conclusions.
I'm aware that there have been problems on Pornusers in the past and perhaps I was a little fast to assume that Davit was being slightly dishonest.
I agree with you 100% that "recommendations" of the kind Davit made should be kept for comments and forum discussion and that the reviews should be kept as unbiased as possible, reflecting what the site offers and all the information that a visitor may need to be able to decide if it's worth visiting/joining, rather than a place for the poster to put forward solely his/her own feelings while possibly disregarding many positive elements of the site in question.
It's a pity 1by-day happened to have been the guinea-pig and Davit has only later stated that he'll perhaps try to be a little more lenient in his reviews in the future. Won't help 1by-day's average score too much of course.
In fact he has since also lowered the score to 70 - the site has of course lost the last remnants of quality over the past 2 days and this has nothing to do with my comments...
You're right, I may have over-reacted a little because Davit's review fitted into the classic scenario of the typical scam review, written purely to diss a competitor in the interests of improving the image of and plugging their own site(s). I may have been wrong and if so, I apologize.
What I would like to ask you though is, have you been a member of 1by-day recently and so are you in a position to be able to evaluate whether Davit's score of 75 (since decreased to 70 ;) ) is actually reflective of the truth? Doesn't it seem rather low in comparison to what other Pornuser members have given the site? Do you actually have the info needed to agree or disagree with him?
Drop me a quick mail and I'll set you up with a short free pass so you can take a look - perhaps you'll be shocked at the low score too :)
So your review was based on the latest Black-Angelica-Nancy Bell movie, not on the site as a whole? Dear me :)
You're right, I'll have to cut back on the sarcasm I think - although I very much hope that I've been civil so far, as have you :)
I still don't feel we deserve a score of 70 "just" because you feel some of our videos are a little "shaky" in your opinion, and the question isn't whether I agree or not or whether you're correct or not and entitled to your opinion, but rather if that opinion is enough cause to rate a whole huge site with such a tiny score which differs so hugely from the general opinion of practically everyone else here.
It also seems to me that you have a liking for lesbian sets (quite right too, so do I), and that you've based your opinion and comparison on just our lesbian content (you mentioned Lezbi machines, Lesbomat etc - you didn't mention that 1by-day also has a lot of the archives/content of SandysFantasies, OnlyBlowjob, HandsonHardcore, DDFBusty, CherryJul, 1girl-a-day and a host of other, smaller sites), so your score seems to be based on about 1/10th of our content not on the whole site. Am I wrong?
Anyway it's too late now, the harm's been done.
I don't want to argue with you (in fact I'm starting to enjoy this discussion!). I'm glad you're bringing a little life to PornUsers and I hope my reaction to your review hasn't taken away any of your initial spirit and drive (hopefully it's had the opposite effect), but I would urge you to be a little more lenient, to check out the whole site and what it has to offer and to not allow your personal views on certain aspects (such as in this case the video production/direction) to so affect the scores that you decide to give.
I'd also point out that the average visitor to Pornusers would view your list of reviews as a list in order of quality, a list of sites, best to worst, and not primarily as a list of your personal likes and dislikes. Those shouldn't affect the score so much and should perhaps be aired as comments rather than as a (too personal) key element of a review - IMHO.
You're right though, tastes differ and we can't make everyone happy. We will of course try to take your views and recommendations seriously and make any changes if needed. Perhaps it's a certain director/cameraman (we have 5 in Budapest and 3 in Prague) who isn't working to your liking, I'll look into it - perhaps you have been looking at some of our "reloaded" videos which are re-compressed, re-edited versions of some of our older material, republished in better quality by request from our members - but it certainly isn't true for all of our archives, all of our directors and all of our sets as your review would suggest...
Keep up the good work and input (no sarcasm here this once, really) and I wish you many good reviews and happy hours spent here at Pornusers. I also sincerely hope that your opinion of 1by-day and our other sites improves with age and use :)
I would also suggest taking a little peek at a site's history - the fact that 1by-day is up there at no. 3 as one of the favourite sites of Pornuser members is no accident....
Oh dear, I see that you've single-handedly managed to reduce our average score from 92.5 to 89.5 and have us drop 17 places on the list which has accumulated over the past 2-3 years...well, that's quite an accomplishment - not to mention that you obviously think that the guys who gave us 90-95% before your wonderful review must all be dumb - not to mention a large number of the best review sites out theres, including TBP, where we are currently ranked no 4 among all the sites in the world. - I mean sure, they quite obviously don't know what they're doing and you're 100% correct in everything you've stated, definitely. Perhaps what I'm trying to put forward here is that I sense a certain amount of selfishness and thoughtlessness here (two of my pet hates I'm afraid) - a certain amount of "I don't care what affects my actions might have, this is fun, I'll do whatever I want" which I find quite distasteful.
I maintain that a review needs to be unbiased - yours aren't. You should either make them so, or keep to the forums/comments, or possibly start up your own review site, why not.
The point here is, the review is not about your personal (subjective) preferences. It's about facts: how much content, how many videos, how many picture, what size archives, what models, how many updates, quality, value for money etc. If after that you feel the need to deduct a few points because you think the production isn't the best, fine, but not 20-30 points?!
I challenge any Pornuser member to take a look at your list of reviews (http://www.pornusers.com/profile.html?id=3313), see that 1by-day is at the bottom of your list, overtaken by such prestigious great sites as Lez Love and We Live Together, which we all know and love and are definitely in the "highly recommended" category, unlike 1by-day, which we all know is a really really bad site, and not think that there is something seriously wrong here... I would put forward that you are new here and have possible misunderstood something or got hold of the wrong end of the stick.
Anyway, I'm obviously having a bad day again, so please accept my profuse excuses once more, and I do agree with a couple of the other posters on this thread that you have spiced life up a bit over here and this is a good thing. You've made me post my first ever comment or reply that wasn't designed to help or provide useful information.
Ah, so you're replying to Khan's messages too now? ;)
I maintain my apology, because you're correct, I have no proof that you are affiliated with other sites (apart from that affiliate code in your Sandy link perhaps, but I'll overlook that obvious flaw) and so I should not have accused you as such.
Similarly of course, you have no proof that you're not, so I'll keep my suspicions (to myself in the future though).
I still think that your review of 1by.day is incredibly biased and I'm sure that the vast majority of Pornuser members will agree that it deserves a lot more than 70 - of course you can maybe tell them that they're all biased. The site has a huge following, not least precisely because of the usually skilled photography and glamour style. We're not all perfect of course, I'm sure there are better and worse videos on the site.
However, as I mentioned previously, I believe you shouldn't be using a review to compare with other sites and purely voice your personal feelings - and should certainly not be actively promoting/recommending other sites. You should be doing that in the forum and by making comments. Your whole review and it's style sticks out like a sore thumb, and if I am incorrect in my suspicions that this is no accident, then as I say, I apologize and I would suggest that you take note - the fact that I immediately jumped to a possibly false conclusion (and that some Pornuser members have agreed) is also no accident and would point to the fact that you should perhaps provide a fuller picture of the sites in your reviews. The fact that you personally do not like the style of the videos on 1by-day is no reason to mark it down so drastically - there is still an awful lot of content up there, huge archives, great pictures.
We have members with 56k modems who only download the video clips - other prefer the pictures and zip files, others still are after their favourite models on the site - will your review really give them an unbiased view of the site and the information they are after, i.e. "is it good site, is it worth the money, is it worth joining?"? I would suggest that it doesn't and as such is not a good and unbiased review - you should be voicing your opinions in the forums and not letting your personal peeves, likes or dislikes affect the outcome of a review to this extent. In my view.
I did state that this was my personal opinion, as for my quality (or lack of) as a Customer Support person, I think that should be judged on how (quickly and well) I help out members in need and not on the basis of my personal opinion on the integrity (or lack of integrity) of your review.
Again, I'm sorry if I jumped to any wrong conclusions, but I'd recommend differentiating between a review, which has various consequences and reverberations and can affect potential members' view of a site, and the comments section, where you can voice your opinion freely - no matter how negative that happens to be.
Woah, I wasn't expecting this issue to spiral out of control - and I'm glad to see it hasn't.
Thank you for your support and kind words re my Customer Support - I'm actually the "support guy" over here, not so much a webmaster.
(Oh yes, to clear one misunderstanding up I am a guy, Bela as in Bela Bartok, Bela Lugosi etc.).
All in all you're absolutely right, I do owe Davit and apology and I hereby apologize. I'm sure I was having a bad day and possibly jumped to conclusions.
As jd1961 rightly pointed out, a review of 75 for a site like 1by-day does ring alarm bells. If you take a look at the 16 reviews that have been posted by Pornusers so far, you'll see that the lowest was 80 (and that was immediately dubbed as untrustworthy), otherwise all other reviews start at 85 or so.
Next I took a look at what other posts and reviews you had made, and saw that you happened to have reviewed three sites all owned by the same company: Club Sandy (the majority of the content of which we shot here at DDF by the way), Dirty 101 and Lezbo Honeys, all of which received very high scores (90's).
You also posted a link to a specific movie in Club Sandy, complete with Nats affiliate code (gets you commission on possible joins)...oh yes, you also mentioned that you'll have to join the site to actually see the video that you posted the link to...
Anyway, right or wrong conclusion, this was immediately enough information to make me 99.9% sure that your review of 1by-day was not above board. I cannot conceivably understand how you think that Dirty 101 or Lesbo Honeys is even comparable to 1by-day, let alone give it 20 more marks on your review.
You do of course have a right to your opinion and what better place to voice it than here on Pornusers. However, this is Pornusers and not "Davit's Favourites" nor a video quality discussion page and although I agree with some of your comments, I feel that they should have remained just comments.
I think that when you post a review it should be absolutely unbiased and I also think that you shouldn't forget that a review can have a positive or negative affect on the opinions of others visiting the site who are looking for the answer to the question "which is the better site?" or "which site should I join?" and inserting plugs to other sites and negative comments in a review may well leave readers with the impression that 1by-day is a really bad site whereas Dirty 101 is of course the coolest site on the planet. i.e. they aren't necessarily looking for the answer to the question "which is Davit's favourite site?" and I think you should be posting the kind of comparative comments you have made in the forum for discussion and NOT in a review. A good or bad review can seriously affect sales and other people's view of our site and I think that over and above the urge to voice your opinion you also need to feel a certain amount of responsibility towards the site involved and take into account all aspects.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I very much doubt that most members of Pornusers will agree with you.
I also find it "interesting" that the sites you have reviewed so far (ClubSandy-95, Lezbo-Honey-90 and Dirty101-90) all happen to be owned by the same company - surely it must be co-incidence. And surely 1by-day's score of 75 must be a typo.
1by-day has been around ten years, has a huge following and lots of loyal members and you're going to have a hard time convincing them that our models' "talents are wasted here" and that our content has "bad lighting, shaky camera work, inability to get decent angles or close-ups, bad editing." Perhaps you've been downloading videos from 2002? :)
So, you're entitled to your opinion and we'll see what other Pornusers make of it, but my personal opinion is that your review it total bull and you shouldn't be using Pornusers as a place to plug sites which you are no doubt affiliated with (interesting that all the links you have "helpfully" posted include Nats affiliate codes.....).
Pornusers should be a place for porn lovers to get together and voice their unbiased, helpful opinions and views on the various sites they have been members of in the interests of aiding others who are perhaps thinking of joining those sites - last time I looked, it wasn't a place to advertise your own sites, certainly not at the expense of others.
Getting your free 30-day membership is really easy:
- join one of our main sites*
- log in and go to the Customer Support page from the Members Area
- right at the top of the support page there will be a link for you: "Get your Christmas Gift Membership here!" - click on the link.
(you'll have to wait a little at this point, because this is where our script checks to see if you're eligible for the free membership)
- you'll get a page with a drop-down list of all our sites and a "Get Free Membership button": choose your site from the drop-down menu, click on the button and hey presto, you have instant access to the site you have chosen for 30 days with the same username and pass!
Quick and easy, hopefully.
Have fun and Happy New Year to you all!
*A word of advice: please use a totally different username and password every time you join any of our sites (if the same username is already in our files you might have trouble activating your Christmas membership! - it's also a bad idea for security reasons, it's best to always change it ).
You can always pay $50 and work the rest of the 6 Grand off in our studios ;)
As Raven rightly said, if Denys had the time I'm sure he'd enjoy doing courses on photography - I'm sure there's pretty much to be learned from just looking at the sets on our sites, but maybe it's a thought for when Denys retires - The Denys Defrancesco School of Erotic Photography.
The technical side is pretty complicated - Denys has heaps of experience and knows more that anyone I know about the "arty", composition and lighting side of things, about the photography itself - he also works the most of anyone I know, I'd keel over within a week if I tried keeping up with him. He really loves his work. As for the technical, post-shoot side, you can always get someone to help with that and we have a little team here in Budapest of about 15 people working in the background just on the design, retouching editing and technical side of things.
I might talk to Denys about things, he might start work on an erotic photography book, it wouldn't be a bad idea - full of nice pictures of course, but also with useful tips and advice for amateur and professional photographers alike - hmm...you have me going on this one, it might actually happen... :)
Anyway...getting late - have member mails to answer :)
I have checked up on your membership in the meantime and the Christmas Membership link is working fine for me using your pass - it's just taking a little while to load because the database needs to check that the 14 days haven't expired and that you're eligible, so it knows to provide you with the link you need.
Just log in to OBJ, and go to the Customer Support page (link at the top right). Here, click on the "Get your free Christmas membership here" link.
This is the part where you need a bit of patience until the next page loads :)
You'll get a page with a simple drop-down list of our sites and a "Get Free Membership" button - just choose the site you want, click the okay button and that's it - you'll have instant access.
Things should be working fine for you, you need to wait a little for the age to load.
If you are still having problems (could be a browser issue I suppose) please contact me using the support page of the site so I'll get information on your configuration and browser which may be useful.
Shouldn't you be contacting Customer Support about this rather than asking here? :)
If you're getting an error message when trying to activate your free pass it means that either:
1) you've run out of time - you have 14 days to activate your free pass, after that the link disappears (if you write to me quickly at firstname.lastname@example.org with the site you'd like, I'll set it up for you manually), or more probably
2) you have already been a member of (or tried joining) the site you would like your free membership to with the SAME username and our database isn't letting you add a duplicate entry. A quick mail to Customer Support (address above) and we'll delete the old database entry so you'll be able to get your free pass ASAP. Not a problem.
Please contact me if you're having a problem, we usually reply to everyone within 24 hours if possible.
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p.s. lets not start a special Pornusers DDF Support section here - please use the relevant Customer Support pages of our sites instead :)
p.p.s. you have read the instructions, haven't you? - link on the join page!
Interesting info on the pictures, I hadn't noticed that myself.
Perhaps all those porn scenes featuring brides and bridesmaids are no coincidence but the result of some hard ground work on the part of Canon? ;)
Thanks for the flattering words about DDF customer support - that would be me, so I'll take that personally :)
I'm glad you love the site!
p.s. I hate to plug our Christmas offer again (been doing it in recent posts, so sorry if it's coming out of your ears already) , but since you're thinking of rejoining the site I'd better tell you that we're giving away 30-day memberships with all sign-ups (to our major sites only) through December - that's enough here, you'll find more info on our join pages.
I've been answering Drooler here and have forgotten to thank you for the great review!
I'm sorry the low Dollar is causing you problems and I'm afraid we're still feeling it too, which is one of the reasons we're looking at other ways of providing cheaper (but limited) access maybe.
You'll also be happy to hear that after years of not really wanting to for various reasons, we are finally getting around to offering some sort of trial membership and this should hopefully be available around this coming Spring.
I agree that especially with the recent price-rise a tour page, great reviews and even useful advice from someone with integrity, such as the kind you find here on Pornusers is not necessarily enough, people need to be able to see what they're getting with their own eyes...
Have a very Merry Christmas and thank you again for the kind words and great review!
Well, not quite, a split (if it happens) would mean softer (solo strip and pink) and harder (girl-girl, fucking machine, toys&insertions etc) sets on 1by-day and 1by-night respectively (but not getting any harder that it already is), with the choice between joining one or the other (at a lower membership fee of course) or getting both together at the present price. There might also be some variation in the quality or quantity of archives available for these memberships. It would be more of a way of providing more choice and lower-priced membership options.
Also, all of our content is of course exclusive to DDF Productions, but I'm sure anyone who knows our sites pretty well will be aware that there is a certain amount of "mixing and matching" between our sites and some sets are published on multiple sites (often not quite the same, but for instance there may be a "Hardcore version" or a "Foot Fetish Version" of the same set, or the set may have blowjob content which will be published on OnlyBlowjob, but which you might see less of or not at all on 1by-day).
We're moving away from this and trying to make our sites more exclusive, unique sites, and this will probably mean less hardcore, busty, blowjob and foot-fetish content on 1by-day (where we'll stick to the teens and babes in mainly solo sets with lots of toys and playing around). We'll see what happens - things are always on the move over here :)
Well yes, it's difficult to please everyone. Since 1By-Day has been redesigned and now has two updates every day (1By-Night) it looks like we have less hardcore than we used to and if we're talking percentages then I suppose we do - it's still the usual number of at least 1 hardcore and 1 lesbian set a week like it's always been and the "by-night" sets are generally harder, while the "by-day" are usually softer solo sets.
We get plenty of mail asking for more hardcore and plenty asking for less. We're moving towards a situation where 1by will get possibly progressively softer and if you would like Hardcore then there's always HandonHardcore which will hopefully move further away from 1by-day to include lots more exclusive content which is never published on 1by-day at all. There are even rumours of 1by-day splitting and allowing a separate membership to the "by-day" and "by-night" sections, or a full membership including both (either one would be perfectly enough content and updates for a single site, right?) Do you think that's a good idea?
So, thanks for the poster of the review for the kind words and I'm glad you love the site, but maybe you should give HandsonHardcore a try (or if you like your girls with big boobs then DDFBusty) - same girls, nastier content :)
By the way...did you guys (and galls) know that we're running a Christmas Gift Offer right now? Join any of our major sites until the end of December and you get a free 30-day membership to any one of our other sites for Christmas - it might be the perfect opportunity to give HandsonHardcore, DDFBusty or one of our other sites a try.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all!
I'm glad you're thinking of checking out DDFBusty - we've refreshed the design of this site too, similarly to our other sites, and we have lots of new and famous models too - it's definitely worth a look.
We're running a "Christmas Bonus" offer at the moment and any new memberships through December will receive a free month on one of our other sites, so maybe DDFBusty would be worth a look for that free 30-days ;)
The reason I'm really replying is to answer your question about the prices. I'm afraid the reason for our price rises is pretty simple - we're based in Europe and unfortunately the 40-50% drop in the value of the dollar (not to mention inflation - we haven't raised our prices in a long time) means that although we're spending the same amount or more on production, our revenue is 40-50% less - just because our billing is dollar-based but our expenses are of course all in the European currency, Euros.
There wasn't much we could do except raise our prices a little to compensate and the rise of about 15-20% is still not too much compared to the 40-50% drop in the dollar. We've basically switched to Euro-based billing - and this has meant a rise for American members who earn and live in US Dollars I'm afraid.
If the dollar gets stronger again, and let's hope it does, then of course we'll be cheaper for everyone in the States again too.
Our members still agree that we're worth every penny, especially with the redesigned sites and generally more weekly updates on top of the usual DDF quality ;)
As always, feedback and questions are always welcome at email@example.com as well as via our support pages.
Hope you all keep enjoying our sites :)
Yes, you're right, I'm afraid we had to raise our prices not long ago.
As I'm sure you're aware the dollar has gone down about 40% against the Euro over the past 6 months and since we're based in Europe, that means 40% less income but the same expenses (not counting inflation).
Prices for a 30-day membership used to be $29.95 for the first month, then $24.95 recurring, they are now Euro24.95 then Euro19.95 recurring, which is the equivalent of $34.95 for the first month and then $29.95 recurring (depending on the daily exchange rate of course). That's an increase of 16-17%, which considering the fact that we haven't raised our prices for years and are now providing TWO exclusive updates every single day - twice the number as before - is still a very good deal and our members definitely agree that we're still excellent value for money! :)
Just as a note - the prices on our join pages are all shown in Euros - no dollar signs out there, no "misrepresentation" Our billers will generally show the dollar equivalent though, so there definitely shouldn't be any misunderstandings.
Privately, I agree about the Euro and the European Union of course, but that's a different story...
We are in the process of informing review sites etc. about our new prices (which were only finalised this week), if there are any outdated prices out there (and for the moment, they practically still all are), then it isn't the reviewer's fault - I'm sure they'll all get around to updating their info reasonably quickly.
Keep enjoying the site and I hope you agree that we are still well worth the money! :)
A little update for you:
We've decided to allow Sweet-Models to continue as an archive site, so anyone who wants to can join the site to get all of that content (in the knowledge that there will be no further updates).
So, new members will know that they are joining and archive site and will not get free access to 1by-day of course, whereas old members will not only get free access to 1by-day for as long as their membership to Sweet-Models remains active (a pretty nice deal I think ;)), but will also have continued access to the Sweet-Models archive too.
I think the reason we tend to get the models' names right is because the great majority of our lovely Eastern European models start out with us and only go off to work for other sites after they've "made it" with us here at DDF.
The models always get to choose their own stagenames and it isn't compulsory to do so at all. Many of them will decide to change their names often during their careers, perhaps each time they move on to new pastures, when they start working in the US for instance, or often when they decide on a new image (get a breast-job etc., which we are not always too happy about).
I can understand it being difficult for some other sites to keep up and they often don't know the model's real name or what stagename she is currently using, and I'm sure they often pick the wrong one from the (possibly long) list. It's understandable I think. We're lucky in that we know their real name and very first stage name, which we generally stick to unless otherwise requestd by the model herself.
Anyway...I'm glad you all love the site - hope you like all the improvements and the new design! :)
p.s. I love eurobabesindex too, we use it a lot to search for new models who you guys request that we shoot with. It's a very useful reference tool. sportyone.com isn't bad either.
I'm happy to hear you're planning on joining the site and that you have been a satisfied member of 1by-day before.
Just to clarify for all of you, "exclusive" means exclusive to DDF Productions. This means that yes, there is a certain amount of overlap between our sites and you will find some sets on HandsonHardcore that also appear on 1by-day, and cive-versa. However, most of the time these overlaps will have been cut and edited differently and will not be completely the same.
For instance, we may start shooting a set as a solo set, then get into some bj action and get much harder, then end with some more bj. The solo part may get onto 1by-day as a solo set. The bj parts may be edited separately to appear on our site OnlyBlowjob, and there will be a separate cut which focuses on the hardcore elements, and which will be published on HandsonHardcore.
I'd guess about 50% of content is exclusive to each site, 20% would be exactly the same and 30% would be parts of the same scene, but cut and edited dfferently for each specific site.
Obviously, if you're into hardcore and only hardcore, then HandsonHardcore is the site to go for. If you're a "breast man", go for DDFBusty and so on. If you would like a bit of everything (solo, lesbian, hardcore), with the unmistakable DDF photography and quality, then 1by-day is the best all-round site.
Let me take this opportunity to give you a sneak preview too. 1by-day is about to be relaunched with double (!) the number of weekly updates (two-a-day!) and a brand new image. We'll have lots of new features, a new set/model search engine, Flash video. It'll be great. Should be launched very early in July. Present members will of course get all these extra features totally free!
If you want just good old hardcore action, then HOH is still the place to be though :)
Hope this answers your questions and I'm glad you all love our sites so much!
Best Regards to all present and prospective members of our sites.
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