Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
-Almost 350 scenes to date. The site has been running since 2007
-Very high quality company in general, they seem to be the good guys in porn if you can look past that one non voluntary bruising of a model case that was reported a while back
-Armory in San Francisco proveides for a great site to shoot this kind of material
-Very high production and innovative bdsm ideas
-Great selection and variety of models
-Good amount of hardcore sex included
-Makes a creative mix of the different niches on various Kink sites
-Scenes are sort of splitted into "days". That means you get usually 3-4 updates from the same model in similar settings. However the are full length each so this might turn out to be pro when you particularly like the model in question
-Humiliating, slave training, doing chores and so on might not be to everyones tastes even if they are generally into bdsm niche. Often a bit too non sexual in my opinion
-Always the same with Kink: No kind of network subscription or ability to mix between sites available
-Dedicated photo sessions would be nice touch but obviously they'd require lot of extra effort
-On the pricier side when it comes to cost per update
The Training of O is a themed site on Kink.com network that focuses on slave training. The material is divided into "training days" of each individual slave trainee where they are tested for different skills like pain tolerance, anal
sex, cleaning the toilet and what not. Usually there is up to four days of each slave's training. Occassionally they throw in an auditioning scene where they are selecting candidates fo their training that are made to look like slave market of some sort. In the end of the training they might be presented to the master of the Armory in their "Upper Floor" setting.
There is lot of role playing and acting involved. Scenes or days may start with the slave waking up with some kind of diary writing, instruction or grade giving and such activity that is nice touch for those who really can get into make believe. Personally I'm more int the actual sex in this scenes so there is quite much overhead in these videos.
When you look past the make believe, you'll find that this site is quite nice mix of much of the non gay niches found on this network in general. There are scenes that look like Hogtied or Device Bondage with some Sex And Submission thrown in. The only difference is that especially lately the penetrating male performer tends to be a gimp kind of guy, usually in bondage himself too and wearing some full body latex suit. Lots of whipping, caning, forced bj's too. Fetishwear, stocks, wooden boxes over the girls's heads, you name it, they probably got it.
The site and it's functionality really doesn't need another round of praise from me. It all works flawlessly and smoothly with download speeds exceeding what most can get through their broadbands. DL managers work fine. Photos are zipped but as with other sites here, the photos are more like a side product taken during shooting video. The sites are not really cheap if you consider the once a week update rate but you can always sign in and wait for a 19,99$ rebate. Higly recommendable site, especially for the variety.
The fairly new site Hardcore Gangbangs from Kink comes with free membership to the older Bound Gangbangs. However.....
The interesting thing is why they broke into 2 sites for basically the same material. The new site has new weekly updates, the old site seems to only recycle old material at this point. Why the new site?
Princess Donna often directs the astounding and overpowering fantasy gang-bang scenes here, but why there is a new site for this still seems a mystery to me. You get lots of scenes, but NOT double updates.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
+Content is all exclusif and is from a niche that is not really represented.
+They add one new scene a week and all content is dated.
+You can view material online.
+You can download the videos in both WMV and MP4 and each versions is offered in normal resolution as well as HD.
+They have a very nice selection of models to choose from and they have started to add some Europeans to the mix.
+Membership to one site gives you discount on the other sites.
***Current membership also gives you access to bound gangbang***
-I'm going to put this in the con because it's important that people be aware that this is an intense site and the content is definetely not for everyone.
-The site is quite tiny with only 14 scenes. You do get access to BGB(that adds another 35 scenes) but I don't know if that is going to change in the near futur or if maybe they will incorporate some or all of the content into this one. Clearly they don't need two sites with almost identical content.
-There are pics but this is primarily a video only site so they aren't really worth talking about.
-This is a small con but two of the performers on this site have done scenes for BGB so you aren't really getting much of anything new.
*If you know Kink then you have a good idea of their business practices. If you don't then it's important to know that they take the well being of their performers to heart so although the shoots are quite intense. At no time is the girls in any danger to their health. The before and after interview makes that quite obvious.
*I'm going to stay on the fence for now and say that the content has potential. I sort of like the idea behind the site and the women do appear to really be into it but this is still forceable gangbangs so there is play acting done from all the players and it can be a little disturbing. That's why I don't know if I will join as often as I might for some of their other sites because I think they are too intense for my taste. The slapping, chocking and spitting are not my cup of tea and sadly most of these are in all of their shoots. I don't care if the performer is okay with any of these things because I'm not and I'm the one paying.
*I also can't help but feel that the scenarios get close to rape and that is a little hard for me to enjoy even though it's all fake. Mind you BGB wasn't much different than this one but it sometimes felt a little less intense.
**This site will appeal to anyone who enjoyed bound gangbang or was interested in joining that site. I would highly recommend that anyone who prefers more passion filled porn avoid this site because there is none of that here.**
***The score has less to do with my feelings in regards to the content and more to do with the site's potential. I may not have enjoyed myself as much as I could have but that doesn't mean that they don't do an excellent job producing the videos.***
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
-Kink style, Kink quality. This cannot be emphasized too much as the network is clearly the most dedicated player in BDSM fetish scene
-Regular and reliable as all the Kink sites. It supposedly updates once a week and apparently never fails to do so (until now, see the last part of my comments section)
-Wide selection of models ranging from Americans to Europeans. Personal favorites include Angell Summers, Krissy Lynn, Kristina Rose, Charlotte Vale among others
-All scenes are very hard, sometimes too hard with anal and dp almost always included
-You get the new site HardcoreGangbang with the same subscription
-Bound and Gangbang do not mix well. The latter is hard here while the former is soft and often nonexistent towards the end of the scene
-Roughly 70 scenes is not that much and during a month of subscription you only get four more
-The rumour that you can see in the comments section of this site here on PU might be true and this site ends up softening even more when it comes to bondage reducing it to quite generic one
-Often a bit too messy. The girls should look good, not smear faced even if fits the scirpt of the scenes. Luckily this site has no messing with food like PublicDisgrace does
-Probably not updating anymore now that they launched HardcoreGangbang as combined subscription. Or "re launched" this site as the blog explains. Anyway, even less bondage in sight as Princess Donna wants the site to focus on "bound by hands of men" stuff
-Pricey and also one of the Kink sites with not that much scenes. Wait for a discount as always
I think this one's my last Kink.com site review for a while as I don't see myself subscribing to others anytime soon and I feel like something else next. This is a site that features, exactly as the name suggests, scenes with many men and fewer girls, usually one, having sex with some bondage tossed in. Generally the action is sexually very hard with anal and dp in nearly every scene while the bondage part is not in the lead role. Often the bondage is completely forgotten at some point of the scene and I can see how it might get in the way of all the ganging and banging.
As usual the models are interviewed both before and after the scene. I guess this was originally intended to clearly indicate that all the action was voluntary but now it seems more like a feature. Anyway, it's often nice to hear the comments on your favorite scenes. The models are well chosen ones with many big names, both Americans and Europeans. The later scenes also feature quite many younger East European and Russian models often seen on European sites like 21Sextury and DDF.
So far (and now it's final) there's only roughly 70 scenes but they are long and as varied as you can get with this theme with positively high number of models so the boredom doesn't settle in too soon. As with all sites at Kink, this site also has scenes called "features" which on other sites are usually more scripted in some fantasy setting but as all scenes here seem to have some setting (prison, locker room etc.), I'm not quite sure how they differ from regular updates. Sometimes the acting is little too much as I'm not really into fake rape stuff with faked looks of suffering on faces.
All general Kink-site comments from my other reviews apply here too. The sites are basically identical, share a very active forum community and work well unless you want a colorfull and flashy esperience. Download speeds are high enough to max out a 100M connection so no complaints there either. Generally the whole Kink.com seems to me the most respectful adult entertainment company that others should look at as an example.
Note: At the time I was writing this but before I finished my review, this site was sort of discountinued or relaunched as HardcoreGangbang with same kind of content with less bondage.
As suspected in the discussion of my comment below, this kind of content is no longer produced or so it seems. A site called Hardcore Gangbang was opened with only few scenes at the moment. You get Bound Gangbangs as what appears a archive of old scenes.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- The last of the Kink sites on my list to join, Kink's sites, generally speaking are very high quality and are just different enough from the norm to keep most of us from getting bored.
- It's a site about butts, my favorite part of the female, below the neck and they have some of the best butts in porn on here.
- As usual, Kink will do something in at least one or sometimes 20 scenes, that challenges our morality as viewers. I call it pro since I feel like this is done in a safe, controlled, consensual environment and it works to break our boredom with traditional porn, push our limits, etc..
- You get good download speeds here.
- Navigation is as all other Kink sites. I think it's a bit clunky, but if you join enough Kink sites, you start to get the hang of it or you just speed up your mouse scroll wheel.
- Videos have up to 1280x720 resolution and are nice and clear. If a bit dark thanks to setting.
- One update per week is a borderline pro/con.
- As mentioned in pros, Kink will push your boundaries, they do so on this site with enemas, for me.
- Pictures would have been really good for this site since they could showcase the butts/thighs, and they have them, but I'm nearing Kink burnout on downloading 4-6 zips to get one photoset.
- Maybe more than any of the Kink sites, this one seemed to border on formulaic for me. It could be the Kink burnout, it could just be that most scenes seemed like the same thing. Reminds me a lot of the now dead Give Me Pink site and to a lesser extent, In the Crack.
I had found myself in a porn rut a few months ago and decided to start trying these Kink sites in succession. I can't recommend a studio higher than Kink when it comes to pushing boundaries...tastefully. I know there are sites that are more hardcore than these, but I don't know if any focus so much on the model as these. Many rely on the male to make the scenes more violent. Kink does seem to let the models work at their own pace.
The quality is here is like any of the new(er) Kink sites. The videos have the 1280x720 option, there is also a 720x480 option, these come in either WMV or MP4 depending on your choosing. I don't want to go too deep into the pictures, but will say this, if you're a picture fan, you most likely won't be happy. Since I've written multiple reviews on Kink sites, I don't want to waste a lot of space on saying the same things I have before. Plain and simple, you can download 20-25 pictures in a zip, 4-6 of these zips per set, just like it was in 1999 or 2000. I downloaded a total of 8 total photo sets, so they're bordering on "why even post them?" I took points off ATK and other sites, over 4 years ago, for doing it. It's unacceptable in almost 2013.
The scenes themselves should be a big selling point to me. I like butts, thighs, and not just curvy, but any that are not toothpick thin or to the point of cottage cheese nightmares. Everything in between those are good.
My first problem was expected. Enemas are just a flat-out no to me. I remember years ago on here, both Denner and I, talking about Give Me Pink having girls shoot milk out of their butt. That was the line this site crossed for me. I still don't like gape videos that much either. There's plenty of gape here. So much in fact, I think a small nation could find their new home. Neither of these are huge complaints, but I am trying to show the extreme the site goes to, for those considering it as a possible join. You sometimes get the feeling the women are in a dare contest, "I can get a stick, a pool cue and a bat in my butt".
This is simply a problem for me because I like the butt. The curves of it. The silhouette of it a shadow. If you're into the extreme insertions and projectile shooting, you will like this site. Nothing wrong with it if you do. That part just isn't for me.
The good part, they do have the less extreme sets. You get a lot of good lesbian strap-on action and I've never had a problem with women being rough with women. I find it erotic even. The models here are more to my liking than some of the Kink sites. You will see a lot more curvy models here than they typically have.
The site has a pretty good sized collection. I'm counting 217 scenes as of 12/11/12. While this a good-sized collection for unique content like this site has, when I figure in the sets I wasn't even considering, it goes down quite a bit and was what caused me to lower the score some. I typed these out in notepad as I was looking through the site for sets I was interested in.
My counts could be off 1-2.
At least 42 scenes involved enemas.
At least 12-15 more involved instruments that are either gynecological, or look gynecological.
So roughly 1/4 of the scenes didn't appeal to me right from the start. If those scenes would appeal to you, then add another 5 points to the score. I found my boundary there.
The rest of it, to the dismay of some, the delight of others, is more straightforward, rough anal sex, be it with a woman or man or group. There's fisting, there's lesbianism, and I mostly enjoyed these scenes. I'm on the indifferent boat when it comes to fisting.
What it adds up to, if the pictures were easy to download in one zip and the enema/gynecological scenes aren't counted, the site would have scored 94 for me, but because it only updates once a week, there's no telling if 3 of my 4 monthly updates will be in the don't appeal or appeal group, so I can't just say "look over" those scenes.
The models save it for me. The regular Kink girls are around, Isis Love, Skin Diamond, Vicki Chase, would love to see more Kelly Divine and Francesca Le. It leaves me feeling the same way as i have about the other Kink sites. By the 30th day of my membership, I'm usually thinking "time to move on to another niche". It definitely teeters on repetitive, but I don't think that would sit in for those who only join for a month at a time. Way too many puns in this.
I would recommend it most for fans of In the Crack and Give Me Pink. The one big difference, both of those sites excel or excelled in Give Me Pink's case, at high quality photos too. Some of this action is better watched in a still photograph than in real-time movement.
It definitely is good for breaking the monotony of mainstream porn. I would recommend it to most people. One other note is the ass-worship, I do like these and first saw this type of porn on Evil Angel, so if you're a fan of those there is something here for you too.
Ever noticed how hard the two things in the site name are to fit together?
I need to write a proper review later but I just had to get this written down. It's always too apparent on this site that gangbang and bondage were not to go hand in hand, at least not strict bondage. Always too many cocks trying to fit somewhere and all the bondage just gets in the way. Take away some gang approach and you are getting too heavily into SexAndSubmission and PublicDisgrace zone ;)
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
-It's a freebie you get when subscribing to DivineBitches. Or vice versa. If you can think anything really is free...
-A good 400 scenes or so is quite impressive backlog on this network
-Most scenes available in very nice 720p mp4
-Quite wide variety of talent, both female and male. Some big star female actresses while the guys are mostly ordinary looking men, not the stereotypes you see too often on femdom sites
-As the name says, stuff here looks often quite painful. If that works for you, then you'll be happy. Personally it's a bit of a con for me
-Not updating anymore. They hace removed release dates from the old scenes but you can see from the comments when they were originally relesed. The old scenes are then recycled to the top.
-The excessive pegging is present here too
-Sometimes these scenes get maybe too intense to some tastes. Personally all the bloody marks, cock torture and stomping makes me feel little sick
-Even less real male to female sex than on DivineBitches
I'm not 100% sure how it was when DivineBitches started and MenInPain stopped updating but I'd guess the former simply took the place of the latter with MiP added as a bonus to the DB subscribers. The reason for this is beyond me as the sites share quite a lot even if the genral feeling of DB now is a bit different from MiP then. My rough feeling would be that this site had more pain and torture and way less fucking (I mean man fucking woman here) going on.
Personally I find the material here a bit too much for my likings as it's even further away from my elusive femdom ideal of men being bound and "forced" to have sex with dominating ladies with maybe some SM on the side. There is too much strapon but that was maybe one of the selling points of the site. Also I must skip videos when there's too many and too tight ropes bound to some poor fellows cock with a bucket load of weights and stuff hanging from it. Ouch. What I cannot find here (and think it's good) is the forced feminization, cuckold and forced gay stuff. Besides that, bondage, whipping, face sitting, some fetish wear and such are the things to expect.
I guess the women are mostly American models with some of the same names as you can find on other Kink.com sites. Aiden Starr, Maitresse Madeleine, Sandra Romain and few other dominating porn stars appear a lot with a wide selection of others, some well known. The guys are bit more average and with more variaition than on DivineBitches but some stereotypical "twinks" appear every now and then. It never gets too acted looking so the feeling and the credibility is there. I guess production and enthusiasm is the Kink.com's strong side, some of the stuff here would be hard to act if the models weren't really into it.
I've commented on Kink.com's technical side many times and the sites are identical in that sense so there is not much new to tell. It's fast, it's clean, no dirty tricks like pre checked sales or regional pricing. The prices might feel high but the reductions come often if you just hang on their mailing list. Videos are very nice but not FullHD, the photography is in side role. The preview mode on the whole network is very comprehensive and gives you very good idea what to expect when subscribing to each site so I recommend one takes his time to get to know the sites.
All in all it's another mixed bag. While on some scenes I hardly find anything watchable, the best of them are seriously hot. Maybe it helps that I'm not easily offended by the stuff that doesn't turn me on. If one is strongly turned off by anything male ass, then they should definitely avoid this site. Far from ideal site for me but it's all executed so well that little issues can be forgotten.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
-High Kink.com production values and dedication
-Well over 200 scenes to date with weekly update
-A wide selection of female talent, likely partly due to split production between San Francisco and Eastern Europe
-Hardcore enough. Bondage does not always come with sex, here it does
-Creative scenes and setups. Various kinds of bondage, abuse etc.
-Technically well working site with high server speeds
-Easy to manage your subscriptions and hassle free cancels
-No 1080p here either. Or high quality photography
-Relatively pricey, it's just one site for the price of many a network. Wait for a discount
-Outdoors scenes are not credible really (how could they be?) which might distract you
-Disgracing stuff itself might do nothing for many. It's not sex nor you getting disgraced so you have to get your kicks from somebody else being disgraced, often not too credibly
-Might be too much for some. There are "failed" scenes where the lady could not do it to the end
Certainly one of the best sites offered by Kink.com and that's saying a lot. The site has been going from mid 2008 without interruptions and updates weekly with content that is a mix of BDSM and public sex. While it all seems to have started as outdoors sex in different East European cities, eventually they also started adding less public US indoors scenes, often shot in their San Francisco Armory building to what I'm made to believe is an audience of the subscribers. Well, that would at least explain some of the rather high prices of these sites, subsidizing some SM parties half the world away ;)
Outdoors scenes include a lot of walking around in public in light bondage, random sexual acts in semi hidden spots and eventually more sex in better hidden place, a bar or a supposedly public bus or something like that. Reactions of public vary from quite credible staring and laughing to actually participating which is a bit too much to swallow. Also no accidental under age people, police or such are ever spotted in these scenes leading me to believe in carefully planned routes and audiences. The US scenes are more hardcore in nature with heavier bondage, SM and group of people humiliating, whipping etc. the female talent. Many of those scenes are made to look like parties for the members but some are shot in pubs, sex shops and other closed off locations.
Great thing about this site is that they do not really over use same models all the time. There is lots of variation and the models also come quite equally from Europe and US and not only split between the scene types. European girls have also been featured in US shoots.
If you can live with all the make believe and do not easily feel awkward when the girls are made to walk around naked in public, this is really great site to join at least once. The price of nearly 30$ without discount can be a bit too steep with only one weekly update to join more frequently but at the moment there is enough backlog to make most feel happy. Technical side works exactly like on other Kink.com sites, no real issues there unless you want your sites looking flashy.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
-Quite unique content from a rare niche
-Access to MenInPain site for same price. Though it's no longer updating, there's a lot of stuff for new members
-Almost 200 scenes with a weekly update
-Very high production values. If you know Kink.com, you know what to expect
-Nice setups, fetish clothing, props and all the dungeon equipment
-Maitresse Madeleine (too bad she never goes into actual sex), Lorelei Lee and Aiden Starr are all great and often featured!
-HD video at 720p from the very beginning wmv or mp4
-Comparatively pricey. Other networks give yo ua newtwork membership with a dozen weekly updates for one you get here. Production values on Kink are top notch however
-Way too much strapon for my tastes
-Male models are obviously of the anything goes kind. Wimpy or bald hairy type
-I know it's not the main focus of this site but I really would like to see actual sex in every scene. Denial or teasing is just frustrating and I'm not sure if it's supposed to frustrate viewers too
-Still no 1080p and the photography is not that great. It's clearly a video site however so I can live with that
-Forced gay and cuckold stuff might be a serious turn off for some. Me, I just don't really care either way and skip that
I don't really get this whole femdom thing. What I'd like to see would be stuff like SexAndSubmission or BoundGangbangs with female side as the dominating one. I guess little SM stuff always goes with porn like this but the idea would be that there is actual sex involved too. It seems that most sites however seem to focus on sissy men (or the hairy bear types) fucked with strapons, dressed as little girls or forced to suck each other, and all to often not getting to any real f/m sex at all. This site is a borderline case with little of the good and some of the bad.
Generally these scenes feature any number of men and women with men humiliated in different ways, some SM themes ranging from mild to quite painfull looking ones, strap on sex and either tease/denial or the ladies actually having sex with their often bound partners. Sometimes there's also forced gay content but not that often. The female talent is very high class, this site features some of my favorites I mentioned above regularly even if some of them seem to not actually ever have sex with males. The guys on the other hand are not your regular studs you see in more generic stuff but seem to often be either stereoptypical wimps or the hairy types. I guess there isn't too much talent willing to do these scenes so they get reused a lot and you see same guys in many scenes.
The setups are great with lots of effort put into the gear and clothing like Kink.com always seems to do. Nothing half assed here in terms of sticking to the niche either, it is quite credible. Scenes are long with kind of split into multiple different parts.
Technically everything still works great. The site is a bit plaing but everything functions and the servers are very fast. 11-12 megabytes per second is where my connection maxed out on this site. If you are really a photography freak, this site isn't necessarily for you. The photos are there but they are nothing special in terms of quality.
Like all the sites at Kink.com, this one too must be individually subscribed to with the exception that MenInPain is included. It's got quite similar themed content but is no longer updating. Like with other sites, you can stay as a Kink member and just wait for a good price offer, they come regularly.
I recommend this site with some reservations. There's a lot of stuff that is certain to put many potential viewers off and for example, strapon stuff is basically in every scene. However, I cannot think of any site that is closer to what I'm looking for. It seems that femdom just doesn't come in vanilla, so to say. There's always certain things included.
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
- Female domination of men. I don't know if it always includes the extra site, but when I joined it included Men in Pain.
- Unlike the last Kink site I reviewed (Public Disgrace), Divine Bitches and the added Men in Pain, combine for a very large collection. Large collection does have downfalls, will explain in BL.
- Divine Bitches has the full options on videos with HD being offered on close to 90% of all videos.
- I'm only putting pictures here because they do have them. The quality of them and how they are downloaded are cons.
- There seems to be varying degrees of femdom that this site showcases. Some of it is particularly interesting to me as someone with a past in psychology, other parts will turn a lot off, though I wasn't bothered by any of it. Will explain in BL.
- I like how Kink uses models who are mostly unknown or better yet, more exclusive to their sites, but as with anything it can be repetitive.
- Weekly update on Divine Bitches, no updates on Men in Pain.
- I'll start with the main one. I knew going in that there was cuckold scenes. If you are offended by gay acts, you probably shouldn't join this site. I will further this in BL.
- The pictures are downloadable only in part zips. The quality of them is only 1280x720.
- This was talked about in my comment for this site in the replies, these men who the women are dominating, are mostly effeminate. It does take away most of the believability.
This was probably the most far-reaching porn experience for me. I have talked about my interest in the lighter side of cuckold. This is seen most in the DVDs like "Please Screw My Wife". With a long interest in the power/control aspects of sex, this genre at least interested me. I don't want this to turn into a lecture on psychological theory, but I'm on the side of humans who believes sex is most enjoyed when it's more lust than love. I also buy into the belief that there's a very thin line between love and hate, anger and joy and each of these represents a very strong emotion.
Men in Pain is a bonus site, but I'm guessing by looking at the update dates, Divine Bitches just became Men in Pain v.2. The Men in Pain site is mostly scenes with typical physical control games being played by the women. This site wouldn't interest me very much, but it is a nice bonus since you will see some more mainstream female models being very aggressive, which is rare for them. One that comes to mind is Jasmine Byrne. I always saw her as the pretty, little glamor model who went into submissive hardcore porn. Also can get some older scenes of Isis Love back when she was blonde and pre-implants. Outside of that though, Men in Pain, is of very little interest. I'm not exactly in position to fantasize about a small woman dominating me physically. I can see that now. Jasmine slapping me if she could reach my face, me saying, "aww that's cute". Sorry for the humor.
Divine Bitches is a whole other experience. This goes into mental and emotional pain. It has plenty of physical pain too, but it isn't limited to it. What you end up getting are scenes like this, woman tells her best female friend about her jerk husband. Female friend finds a big, tough guy and they go over to the woman's house. They force the husband to watch as his wife has sex with the other man.
Then they took it to a new level. Not only is the husband being forced to watch his wife have sex with another man, he's being forced to stick his face within inches of the penetration. His wife is saying things like compliments to the new man on his size and how her husband doesn't compare. We're getting deep here.
Then they took it to a new level. Not only is the man facing all the things in the above paragraph, but he's having to take the cumshot from the other man, giving the other man oral, in between pumps of his wife. This was a line to me.
It wasn't a line because it went too far. It became more obvious at that last level, the men being forced were bisexual or gay. I'm in no way trying to be an asshole about this, but the husband walks in the scene in a dress suit and tie. He has a masculine look. Then as soon as it comes time for him to do something labeled as "gay" he arches his back and becomes feminine. You lose me there.
This also applies to the scenes with just a male and female. Some of these men look to be lubing themselves up for a strap-on from their woman. Whether this goes into a gay act or not isn't the point. The point is it's about domination! The willing being dominated is not domination. Simple as that.
Overall, the site is good. The storylines are believable and even enjoyable in a distorted way. Like with other Kink sites, I do think you have to bring your imagination with you because of the fine line between what would be accepted and what would be going to far. For example, would having a real husband and wife in a scene, with the real straight male being forced to give a man a blowjob, be going into breaking laws? Keep the imagination handy and if you do, it's a good, very different site that might touch some emotions in you. And I'll give them a lot of credit for being risky and pushing boundaries, even if my imagination is still required.
The quality on the videos is pretty simple. Everything on Divine Bitches has up to HD except maybe 10 scenes. Each scene has smaller versions as well. With Men in Pain, you're going to be all over the place in quality. I downloaded one that was highest mp4 and it was 340x280. Did another and it was 720x480. Photo and navigation problems are the same as other Kink sites. No full photo zip download. Model list takes you to a network wide listing of each model and even if you have a membership to a site a scene is on, it tries to get you to sign up for the site or use pay on demand kinks, so it's useless. The best way to navigate the Kink sites is scroll, scroll, scroll.
These negatives are still fairly small and not enough to take away much from the site's overall grade. I do think for those who like to see women in dominant roles, it does the job. I could nitpick and say if the men were more masculine or even put up the least bit of resistance, but you do get the feeling the type of domination they are going for is the woman saying, "If you want me you will do what I say" and they do that well.
Another very good site from Kink that is recommended for those who are into this genre.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- It's public sex that sometimes isn't really public, that other times is very kinky.
- As with every Kink site I've been a member on there are high quality photos and videos and plenty of imagination with each scene.
- Navigation issues aren't too bad here since I had never been a member of the site and just scrolled through the updates, making it quite easy to navigate.
- European sets seem to really push the public limit with sex on streets and in barely hidden places that the viewer can still see the society functioning around. Will go further in BL.
- Models can be hit or miss for me. The older European sets had more models I am familiar with, but the newer sets, mostly shot around or in the Kink armory have models I'm not as familiar with. One thing that keeps this in the pros are the appearances of Isis Love in several scenes, though not listed in the model credits.
- Download speed is always above average on Kink sites
- Scenes in America may push the limit of misleading advertising. I'm not of this belief, but the comment section of the newer American scenes have 20% comments complaining that they are not public, will further in BL.
- I'm beating, maybe flogging would be a better word since it's Kink, the dead horse when I complain about the photo sets being broken up into parts, but I feel it's important for potential members to know.
- While the site is plenty large enough, considering the complexity of the scenes, I don't know if it offers much for multi-month memberships or for many return visits. Numbers in BL.
This site had been one on my list to join. The last 4 sites I have joined are Kink sites. My overall impression of this site is good, but at times, I was either thinking things went too far or things were way too protected.
With any exhibitionism or voyeur site, I do need at least some believability. I have enough of an imagination to make most scenes believable. Having said that, I know a lot of porn viewers don't. The members comments on Public Disgrace use words like "false advertising" and "bait and switch" and these are not just 1 or 2 comments, but maybe 5-10 on some scenes. This is my feeling on it.
In the earlier scenes on this site, starting in 2008, it was more of an exhibitionism site than disgrace site. These scenes included recording the male and female models having sex in subway steps as traffic and people walked by. It included sex by the road as traffic went by. From what I can tell by the license plates on the cars it was nearly all shot in Europe. There are complaints about "where is the disgrace?" They do have some scenes that go into bondage in public places, but the majority of the scenes that are outside in Europe are much more regular sex as described earlier in this paragraph. The scenes take on a decided turn to filming in and around the Kink armory in San Francisco. They bring in a crowd to watch, these rarely go into the exhibitionism like the European scenes did since it's a controlled crowd and controlled environment, but these do bring in more disgrace than the European scenes.
How disgraceful? I'm sure it's subjective. There is writing on the model's body, "I'm a slut", "Whore" to dumping food on the model to heavy bondage. These scenes remind me more of Sex and Submission type scenes. Where you as a member have to choose is if you prefer the more public, less disgrace scenes or less public, more disgrace scenes. Only a small amount of the scenes really do both. I do understand and respect the possible laws they had to be concerned about breaking so I'm not really against either side, but I do prefer the more public, less disgrace.
Overall the site is pretty big considering the niche and complexity of each scene, however, it only updates once a week.
As of 11/7/2012 there are a total of 209 scenes. These scenes include photos and video. The videos are quite long ranging from 45 minutes to 90 minutes. The photos are split into parts on the zips.
If you're big on technical quality, this site delivers. These are the video options.
Smaller Screen is 640x360 in MP4 format
Most compatible is 960x540 in WMV format
Windows Media HD is 1280x720 in WMV format
Highest Quality MP4 is 1280x720 in H264 MP4 format
All 209 scenes have those options.
Navigation is pretty limited, but with 209 scenes, you can just scroll through pages of 14 scenes per page. It doesn't do much good to use the model search since it takes you to all the model's scenes on their family of sites, most of which, you won't have a membership to.
As mentioned earlier you get one new scene per week. With the newer scenes turning more to the disgrace side, this could be a problem for me with future joins. I don't want to say all of the American scenes are bad though. Quite a few are in more public places than the Kink armory and as long as they work the crowd into it, whether a controlled crowd or environment or not, I will still like those scenes.
Where they lose me is in the disgrace part. I don't mind bondage, but we saw a bunch of immature sites years ago try the writing on the model's bodies angle and it failed miserably for them. I don't think it's that I'm offended as much as it is that I expect more from Kink than this. I would think anytime you're dealing with a niche like disgrace there are lines that go into "That's not disgrace, it's just silly". On the other side, I wouldn't want them to truly go into disgracing the models either since I'm not even for sure how far that would have to go. The last side of it is I don't ever hold a site to stick directly with their name since the amount of urls available isn't that large and I don't know if I would ever want to be on a site that never changes.
I enjoyed the site though. It's different enough from the mainstream to keep my attention on it. I would like to see more public exhibitionism, but more than that, just enough to give my imagination something to work with. The body writing makes my imagination want to get a washcloth and soap to wash it off. Not exactly the point of joining a porn website.
I would recommend it to most anyone. The disgrace is if anything silly and playful. The models are pretty and some have never been seen. I just don't think if you're really into disgrace you're going to get it here and outside of the Euro scenes, I don't think you're going to truly get a lot of public sex unless you're able to tap into your imagination some. The one admittedly biased part is Isis Love being in some of the newer scenes.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
+They have over 1900 scenes to choose from.
+They manage to hire some really hot models all through the years and get them to do some intense BSDM.
+They update with one new scene each week.
+You can stream the videos online.
+You can download all the videos in the mp4 format with a resolution of
+All the videos from 2007 to now are offered in HD with the mp4 and WMV format.
+There is a calendar where you can view the upcoming shoots for all their sites.
+A membership to one site gives you discounts to the other Kink sites.
-I think my biggest issue with this site is that the BSDM is sometimes a little too intense for my taste.
-There are some doms that aren't as good as others or the chemistry between them and the sub is just not there and that tends to ruin the scene.
-They have some pics but they do such a poor job with them that they are almost worthless and you can't download the entire photoset into a single file because they split the sets in 3 or more parts.
-The quality of the videos for their eartly stuff ison the poor side of things. That's most of the stuff prior to 2006
*This is a Kink site so if you have been a member of any of their other sites then you know that these guys take their porn seriously and try to offer the best porn possible. That's probably why they are still dishing out top quality porn and able to hire the top girls. Even in these hard economic times and in the era of tube sites.
*This site is designed for people who like g/g porn but with the bsdm aspect added to it. The level of bsdm varies from video to video so it's hard to say just how intense it is but it feels like it has gotten a liitle more intense in recent months. Of course that could be because the performers being hired are more into it so the dom will give her sub a lot more then she might some a newbie.
*Anal penetration is common in many of the videos so that's something to consider if you aren't into that. There is some fisting but it is on the rare side so it shouldn't be an issue for most people.
**I tend to join about once every year or so but I would probably join more often if the level of bsdm was not as high as it is. My tolerance for it is rather low so more sex and less whipping would be great.
***The only people that should avoid this site are those that don't know what the words dom and sub mean or don't like bsdm.
I tried this site out for a month while a member on another Kink site. If you're looking for different than the norm, this is the place to start. You also get a bonus subscription to Men in Pain. Everything is the same as it is on other Kink sites. I didn't download all the scenes on Divine Bitches, but I do believe every scene has the HD option on videos. The pictures are separated into chapters which will always be an annoyance with Kink sites.
I know at least one member has mentioned Ashley Fires. She has quite a bit of content on here. Men in Pain has the very underrated Jasmine Byrne in ways most porn fans have never seen her. Really, the majority of this content is going to be different than nearly everything you've seen.
A bit of a warning ahead of time. There are what I would consider extreme cuckold scenes blended in. I'm still not real familiar with the depth of the cuckold genre, but I have always liked the sites that do what I guess is a lesser version of cuckold, where the husband watches his wife have sex. On this site, there are some of those, but there are also some where the husband is forced to give the wife's lover a blowjob and/or take the cumshot. So things could be going to an extreme there. These scenes are limited to the Divine Bitches site. Men in Pain is more along the lines of one on one femdom.
I can't say I would recommend it unless you're into the genre. For me, it was okay since I do like the dominant female scenarios. It goes well beyond the mainstream porn world though. Definitely one that you will want to look at the preview of before joining. A big positive for me was the models. Outside of a couple of Kink sites, you won't find a lot of well-known models, but Divine Bitches has quite a few. Lots of Isis Love on both sites for fans of Isis too.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
- Women wrestling, clothed, partially clothed and nude. One of Kink's oldest sites.
- Has more content than I'll ever get to.
- Tag team live matches in front of a crowd are some of my favorite scenes in all of pornland.
- Working Isis Love in as ref and extra strap-on is a great idea. I could just watch her walk around.
- Scripted and non-scripted are very subjective words, but I will give them credit for being the most physical of the wrestling sites.
- Nice photo sets, but see the cons and BL for more on this.
- Download speeds are usually extremely good, but there was one day of 1/20th regular download speed and just today the site had a few maintenance issues.
- Dragon Lily. It's not just a site with her on it, but she's a real star here. One of the sexiest, curvy, Asian/Pacific Islander models I've ever seen.
- Get a discount to most of their other sites while a member, believe it's $19.95 on each one you add.
- Site design. This doesn't just apply to Ultimate Surrender, but most of the Kink sites I've been on. Have a membership to two right now and both suffer from the same problems.
- Trying to find a balance. I've competed in martial arts, Greco Roman wrestling and mixed martial arts. Dragon Lily really stands out here because she seems to be very skilled in grappling and flexibility. The combination of athleticism and sexy is perfect with her. A lot of the matches end up being more like foreplay for a lesbian porn scene.
- And those mutli-zip photo sets. There is a reason and defined reason for this, round 1, round 2, round 3, round 4, but each one is only 10-20 MB and requires multiple clicks to download each. I have a round downloaded before I can get back and start another round's zips downloading.
I like Kink sites as a diversion for me. I've almost always liked only glam sites, solo sites, but Kink has me convinced they are "good guys" when it comes to hard, dominating sex and they are perfect for me when I start getting bored with the softer porn.
I do stay frustrated with the site design and the way the photo zips work. Kink does listen so I'm hoping they at least will consider this. To download one match's photos you have to go through this process, click on photos, click on which round, there are 4 rounds in each match, click on download zip, back click, click on round 2, click download, back click, click on round 3, click on download, back click, click on round 4, click download, back click. That's 12 clicks to get one full match's photos. If I'm wrong for complaining about that have Dragon Lily and Isis Love punish me!
This click-a-thon does make the photo sets less appealing to me. Maybe put a full set download link? Or how about even a little zip icon beside each round? Full set would allow one click downloading. Zip icon beside each would be 4 clicks. I could put up with 4, but 12 is just frustrating. Though not applying directly to this site, I've also seen other Kink sites using this multiple click per photo set download.
The site itself is believable to a point. Some of the girls look like they are giving their all to win a match, others look like they just want to lose and have sex. Dragon Lily, Isis Love are both very competitive in it and both are also funny. Sorry Lily, but you telling a woman, "You cannot cum yet" is funny to me and strangely, kind of cute.
The live matches are the standouts. These do seem to be a little less realistic from a competitive view, because they allow double teams, which are always fun. I won't criticize the site for being scripted though. Girls do get injured. Some matches stopped because of injury even.
Where the site succeeds the most. Quality, quantity and hard lesbian sex. I have always had problems watching the harder boy/girl scenes with slapping, but it's pretty hot when it's two sweating, naked women. I do now understand the scoring better than I did on my last review of this site and can see how they are trying to create a real athletic competition with erotic additions.
Video quality can be varied and confusing, which goes back to site design. These are the options on newer ones, Most Compatible (wmv), Highest Quality HD (mp4), Smaller Screens iPod, iPad (mp4), Windows Media HD (wmv). Some of the times, I have downloaded the most compatible option and gotten mid level wmv files in the 720x480 range. So I finally just selected Highest Quality mp4 and it will remember that from scene to scene, but because the site has so much content on it, some of the scenes highest quality mp4 is 640x360. That can be frustrating since on those, the wmv is usually 720x480. It would probably be way too much of a pain to list the resolution beside of each, but it should be mentioned since you have to check each file to see if you got the best quality one available for that scene.
Search could be improved. If you go to "All Seasons" there are 8 listed previous seasons, but they have started season 10. Most of all though, I would love to see an option to just select the live scenes, but it's not here unless I'm overlooking something. I instead go through the updates looking for ones I can see a crowd in. Sounds easy enough, but each page only lists 7 shoots and the live ones are released by round, so you have to dig even more to find the full live scenes and if you want the pictures to those, it's back to looking for each round. Why the full scene video download doesn't have a full scene photo zip download doesn't make much sense.
The Kink sites I have been on all have these different problems with photo sets being split up to maybe tell a story or make sure if you're not OCDC, you will be. The design and frustration has lowered my score from a 90 a few years ago, but if you're not interested in the photos, the score would be in the lower 90s.
Using my most basic method of figuring up how much content, I'm going to multiply the number of pages of updates multiplied by how many scenes per page. There are 84 pages of updates, 7 scenes per page, so that's 588, but the live ones are split, so the number isn't that high. The site has updates dating back to 2004, they update every week.
The live scenes are what brings me back though. Having Isis being more active as a ref, joining in the sex part has really helped the site. Her performance as an unknowing spectator in one live scene is my personal favorite scene of my porn collection.
It's different, it's the hardest lesbian content I've found and it even has some genuine laughs in it. Once you get beyond the site design problems and search issues, you have one of the most original sites on the internet. Recommended to those who are looking for something different and lesbian fans.
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