I realized that there would be some negative feedback with this review given the nature of the site. I've been a member of other Kink sites in the past and I'll admit that these scenes push my limits.
I don't agree with you that the interviews are insignificant. Both the pre- and post-scene interviews are lengthy, detailed and seem genuine and I suspect that a model would have a hard time hiding her displeasure if those were her true feelings. I've also read some independent accounts of Kink and they seem to be held in high regard by most in the industry. It's also worth noting that many of the producers (and I think that's the case here) are female.
Another factor to consider is that Kink is well known so any A-list model would know what she was getting into. Add to that the fact that several A-list models work repeatedly for Kink. Amy Brooke, Amber Rayne and Chastity Lynn all have multiple scenes. These women can get work with any studio so it makes sense that they're okay with Kink if they continue to work with them. I agree that there is an argument to be made that Kink sweetens the deal by paying more, and that's probably true. But consider that if an A-list model had no interest in working with Kink even if they paid double, she could find two more mainstream scenes which would probably still be easier.
Kink also features fetish models who appear in a lot of BDSM material and who do a lot of work for Kink. Most of these models are every bit as attractive as an A-lister so there has to be a reason why those models don't go to mainstream porn. They could make the same money (though may have to shoot more, but easier scenes) but they choose to shoot for Kink over and over. That has to say something, especially when those models are interviewed and continually refer to past shoots as enjoyable.
While this is rough sex, and I think the r@pe thing is too far over the top, it isn't anything like what Max Hardcore or JM Productions used to shoot. In those shoots there was, it seems, a genuine attempt to degrade the model. (Consider that JM Productions actually released a commercial video of Tanner Mayes having a meltdown on the set over her missing cell phone. Jim Powers egged her on the whole time knowing he would be able to exploit her.)
I'll admit that I'm basing most of my opinions on this and other Kink sites on the interviews. But those interviews don't look scripted. The post-scene interview is shot immediately after the scene and the model would have a hard time hiding any discomfort. The models all report that they enjoyed the scene.
I respect your opinion, but given the evidence, coupled with edits (which are likely shooting breaks), I don't agree with your take that this is "violence, brutality and shattering pain." Kink has a good reputation in the business and I think it's more likely that this is part of the atmosphere that the director wants to create.
Really 80% B/G vids are anal, whats sites are we talking about, yeah there are anal sites like evilangel but the majority of the American networks like Reality Kings, Brazzers, Porn Pro etc the vids seem mainly straight with the odd anal one. Most sites I've joined are more like 80% vaginal sex and 20% anal if that.
I have cut way back on porn purchases, enjoyment in the material is way down, largely due to all the anal, but it's just a part of the problem - a site has to cater to the people who spend the money. If I don't spend my money while all the anal fans do, they get to dictate what scenes are created in the future.
I respect your decision to stand up for your beliefs and follow through with your purchasing power.
I can tell you that not all porn companies act the same way. Some treat their performers like animals, and others treat them like kings and queens. Without you being physically present on one of our productions, there's probably not a lot I can do to convince you we have one of the best reputations in the industry in regards to the treatment of talent. If the opportunity was available, would you be interested?
The attention drawn to anal sex, indicates there is sufficient meaning to you in your personal life and how it symbolises the treatment of women. But is it fair to draw assumptions about talent treatment, based purely on a sex act?
Let me elaborate: if you've subscribed to our newsletter, we showed many behind-the-scenes photos of Petra Q, having fun and enjoying our shoot with us. She told us she preferred anal sex over regular sex, and wanted to work with us again.
What if you enjoyed a typical, vaginal sex scene, but discovered that the production for that scene involved the talent being severely overworked, her vagina sore from 4 back-to-back scenes shot that day, the company provided no catering, her passport was confiscated, she is working with people she hates, and at the end of the day, she's paid $50 for that scene - or worse - she's been unpaid for months?
Do you penalise X-Art and Joymii for publishing anal performances the girls enjoyed doing, but reward the other companies for treating their talent like slave labor because their end product did not have anal?
Admittedly, this question is a bit rhetorical because it's quite philosophical. But one I hope all visitors consider if the treatment of talent - both male and female - is important to them.
I understand and really appreciate you taking the time to comment and review our site. Could you contact us directly? I would like to extend your membership for free.
I'm hoping you don't judge us based on 2% of our content catalogue. Even if that number rises to 5%, would you be satisfied with the other 95%?
We recognize we can't please everyone. I have personally received angry emails from FEMALE members, expressing their displeasure of NOT having enough anal scenes, expressed just as vehemently as you.
No product is 100% perfect. We merely try to achieve as close to that as possible for our members. If 2% imperfection taints the 98% of the site you are happy with, I regret we can't achieve that, but again I would like to express my thanks to you for providing such constructive criticism. It's users like you, who make us better.
Thank you and have a wonderful Christmas+New Year!
p.s. remember to contact us directly so I can extend your membership!
You are right.
The scheduling could have been better with a hardcore anal scene immediately following a light, anal-fingering solo.
To be fair, only 5 out of 230+ scenes are anal.
We understand anal is not for everyone. We are sorry to see you go and thank you very much for being a viewer.
Our target audience are couples, or those who appreciate real, passionate sex. Anal sex is the single most-requested non-traditional sex act by males to their partners. A recent Center for Disease Control, multi-year study, also surprised researchers by revealing the prevalence of anal sex among heterosexual couples. Numerous sexual commentary by the general audience, have shown offering anal sex is one of the biggest expressions of love in a relationship.
We pay attention to every comment, and anal sex is the most-requested addition by our members. By that measure, 5 out of 230+ scenes is under-serving of our members' needs. This means we plan to increase the percentage of anal sex slightly, not grotesquely. As always, it must be artistically logical with the overall theme of the site: real love and passion.
Hi Parsnip - another good review, of a site which so far is my favourite sex site. Although SexArt is pretty close, I found the styling, lighting, colours here good and evocative - and the scenes erotic but not overly pretentious or artsy.
I recently received their newsletter on the subject of anal sex - like you, it doesn't really work for me but as and when I rejoin, I'm pragmatic enough to ignore it if there isn't too much. I just hope that further to your exchange with the webmaster, they don't overdo it - there's plenty of places for folk that like it to see it; not so many for those of us that don't and it would be a shame to lose one.
Yes. We consider the opinions of customers like you, very important.
We are very aware of JAV. I personally just came back from Japan and met with two representatives from Hokuto - Japan's biggest porn company. They own DMM. It is nearly impossible to get one of those beautiful JAV girls to shoot uncensored porn. It requires a bit of an explanation that's not suitable here but if you want to know the reasons, and what we are trying to do, please contact me via the contact form on our site. I'd be happy to tell you!
I can't imagine x-art mistreating their girls. I know the owners and some of the team and they, like us, respect their girls. Even if a girl CAN do anal, and she did it on Woodmancastingx, they wouldn't pressure her into it or throw money at her like Pierre does. Neither do we. I can give you another example: Petra Q loves anal. She prefers it over regular sex. If she had her way, she would've preferred Nick to make love to her butt in "Midnight Sex" but we declined because it didn't fit the story and mood we wanted to portray.
We try very hard to set a standard and not just film gonzo cinematically like some of our competitors. You want to see passion and romance and that will continue to be our priority.
Thank you very much for the fair and concise review. If I may, I'd like to address some of the points you brought up which we already rectified:
720P video - ALL videos are now available in 1080P. Previously, we only encoded in 720P because 1080P wasn't in high demand.
Variety of models - we are working on that, but it is quite difficult to get attractive girls of other ethnicities. We didn't want to settle for skanky, tattoo'd so-cal asians for example.
Anal - did you read our recent newsletter? We address this topic specifically. If you think about anal sex in your personal life, it is a special gift a woman gives to her man. Therefore, we only introduce it in the right context. It has to be meaningful and done tenderly. Not gross-out, over-pumping, gonzo-style. Our recent set, Natali and Angelo, features anal because they are boyfriend/girlfriend in real life and they suggested it to us. But most of our scenes don't feature anal because the chemistry wasn't there, even if you've seen the same girl elsewhere get ass fucked into oblivion. :)
Actually, I don't mind artsy nonsense... as long as it's not at the expense of actual arousal!
A couple of things you may want to check out too: if you've not joined Babes, it's not quite SexArt or Joymii, but it's still good if you are looking for more similar material.
And if you aren't already familiar with him, look up Roy Stuart - also a bit of an auteur, but the material works better. There's some (very tame) stuff of his on Met Art; but if you want the B/G material, I think it's either the books or his own DVDs.
Another interesting review, thanks. I've been tempted by this - like you I've received offers, being a member at TLE. I sort of half-dismissed it as overly-stylised artsy daftness - but it sounds harder than I'd suspected. My interest in fetish lies in the glam side, nylons and latex - not so much in S&M and the like - sounds like this would be a turn-off for me at best. Probably one I'd be better off avoiding!
I hadn't even heard of this site, but after reading your lengthy comments on Joy Mii and subsequent recommendation of SexArt I've spent time checking it out. I, too, have reached saturation point with anal and dp and the rest of fairly brutal hardcore porn. I do find lovely models but they're almost entirely turned over to anal assaults and trying to find scenes without it is nearly impossible. Comments scream about a lack of anal scenes even at a place like Video Box where there is virtually complete coverage. And, of course, the quality of camerawork, direction, design etc is terrible. I'm culling a high percentage of what I've downloaded over the years realizing that most of it I never watch. I'm giving it a try because it looks wonderful - of course I thought that about X-Art, Joy Mii and Babes at one time or the other, so fingers crossed. Thanks.
Fair enough. I guess it's different for me because I watch them on a 24" LCD at 1920x1200, so the resolving power is higher. And certainly a part of it has to do with tastes, as I prefer my videos crisp and with more skin texture (rather than soft and glamorized skin tone). Also it is entirely plausible that SexArt has recently upgraded their encoding methods.
Looking forward to your TLE review - it's one of my favourite sites and the one I have a 1 year membership to. As you say, they often get the pictures right - make them genuinely erotic where Met Art (and SexArt on the photo side) fail.
BTW you may also like Babes - it's a little formulaic, but still not at all bad.
Great review and welcome. I've just spent a couple of days at this site - a trial for being a member at TLE - and found much the same as you. The only real difference being that I thought the early arty, body-painting ones etc were too daft; I prefer the more recent more ordinary ones.
But otherwise concur - this is good stuff, well made and respectful. Like you I'm not a fan of anal and don't really feel it belongs in (although others are free to disagree!) in this kind of heartcore site, so I'm glad they've not done it here.
And agree completely about the pics! I find Met Art pics entirely insipid and the one here are too - I don't know how they are so unerotic when the videos are so good.
I also like that that it's not wholly fixated on 18-21 year olds, but still I'd like to see a few more girls 25-30+. Not sure if this beats Joymii, my favourite sex site so far, but it is good.
Another great review - and again, your views on the site are very similar to mine. Assume somebody's arse got kicked around the beginning of 2012, since material before then is largely generic and uninspired - if anyone joined before then, note that the last 2 years of material is completely different.
And Paul Black's material is certainly a standout - also Chris King and Oliver Nation. I do feel they could all be a bit less dark - there's atmospheric and there's not being able to see much - but it's only a minor thing. I also like Sebastien Michel - his pics are among the few inspiring ones at Met Art.
Have you tried Breath Takers and/or Girlfolio? (Same photographer at each). Quite soft, but I think you may like the style - I think I will subscribe to the latter next.
Really sorry you feel that way. We did have one rendering issue with that specific video. It is also not nice for you to speak about the models like that. We have many beautiful girls and couples from Europe and USA. You can see a small preview of what we have to offer on our blog.
Funny that out of over 425 films on the site and over 715 awesome photo galleries (with new update EVERY day) you pick the only two we had issues with recently to discuss here. How about the good ones? I love this most recent one: x-art.com/videos/good_night_kiss/ you REALLY should watch it...
If you would like to come back for a free trial and see what is coming up I am sure you will not be disappointed. How long were you a member?
I try really hard, but I guess you can't please everyone all the time.
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