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Abby Winters
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from abbywinters:
(tomjones's Reply)
Tomjones and I exchanged several emails, and cleared up his concerns. He did join on a rebilling account (perhaps accidentally), he did forget to cancel his rebills (assuming he had not signed up on a rebilling account).
We credit his account with the un-used time he had paid for (~150 days). As he only has occasional access to broadband, we advised him of our ability to suspend and un-suspend his account, so it's only active when he has broadband access (we do this for folks in the armed forces quite often).
We agreed to disagree on rebilling account plans. As others have suggested, it's the norm (ironically, we get more complaints from customers whose rebills have filed (eg, expired card) than we do for having rebills in the first place!
We did miss one of Tomjones' emails, and that's what caused a lot of these problems. He seems satisfied now, as are we!
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09-08-11 12:18pm
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Abby Winters
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#8
from abbywinters:
(tomjones's Reply)
received, thanks. I'm looking into it, and will respsond shortly by email and here.
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09-06-11 02:17am
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Abby Winters
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from abbywinters:
(tomjones's Reply)
Hi Tomjones,
Garion Hall here, Owner of AW and GMBill.com. I'm trying to ignore the editorials and understand the facts. From what you have posted, it seems that:
(1) You joined AW on a rebilling sub
(2) You did not cancel rebills
(3) You were rebilled
(4) You asked for a refund for the rebill, and were denied
In principle, that's pretty much our policy, but we are flexible in some circumstances. Note that we notify you in four separate emails after joining, on each page of the join process, AND on every page on the site when your next rebill date is (if you have not yet cancelled rebills), AND we make it simpler than pretty much any site in the world to cancel your rebills (no need to go to the billing provider, you can do it from AW itself).
As to changing the policy for automatic rebills, that's fair criticism, but unlikely to change for us. As other posters have mentioned, it's just "how it's done" - everyone understands it, and we don't get complaints about it. It provides an incentive for us to keep updating the site (thus keeping members), and for members to view the site (and keep rebilling).
Your example of "main street shops" does not hold water. Consider a subscription to a magazine or a gym - they have MUCH more strict rebilling policies than porn sites.
If you'd care to notify me (off-list if you prefer, on garion.hall@abbywinters.com ) with your SubID so I can look into the specifics, I'd like the opportunity to do that, so I can post back here our stance as it relates to your circumstances, and explain to you the case (or, if an error was made, correct it).
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09-05-11 11:00am
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Abby Winters
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from otoh:
(tomjones's Reply)
I did read your review pros, which is why it's more of a shame that you give such a poor score to this popular site for doing what pretty much every site does. Any sites you've joined that don't work this way are in the very small minority; and again, by this logic you will score almost every site listed on TBP at 50.
I am neither condoning nor condemning the practice of automatic rebilling; just stating that it's almost universal in the industry; I think every site I've joined rebills until cancelled. It's easily dealt with as Cap'n mentioned; and most sites make it very easy to cancel (difficulty in cancelling WOULD justify a poor score).
It's unfortunate that you perhaps weren't familiar with this when singing up to AW - although I see on their join page, each option has 'rebilling' stated very clearly next to it.
End of story for me, at least :)
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09-04-11 10:23am
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Abby Winters
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from Capn:
Whilst I appreciate the effort you have put in on this, what the others have said is quite correct.
It is normal practice in the industry to continue to bill until you cancel.
There are a couple of ways around it.
Either use a non-recurring subscription; some sites offer this as an option at a slightly higher price; or cancel the card it is billed to in which case a rebill will fail.
Cap'n. :0)
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09-04-11 09:42am
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Abby Winters
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tomjones's Review
from otoh:
As tangub said, that's a little harsh - suspect this may be your first pay site join, since it's pretty much standard practice with porn sites to do recurring billing and leave it up to the customer to cancel.
Whether or not you agree with it, you'll end up giving all sites 50 because of it :|
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09-04-11 02:12am
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Abby Winters
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tomjones's Review
from tangub:
Am i reading this correctly....you give Abby Winters a 50 because you forgot to cancel the re-bill....you're suggesting they should have noticed that you're no longer active on the site and therefore should not have charged you again?
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09-04-11 01:54am
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Justine's Bedroom
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tomjones's Review
from gaypornolover:
Sounds like a classically British site! We Brits have such a sense of humour we often find it difficult to take anything seriously - including sex! I notice a lot of British porn has a slight "comedy" element!
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09-05-11 06:23pm
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Justine's Bedroom
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tomjones's Review
from Denner:
Interesting to see a review of this site.
Was a member a long time ago - even way before joining TBP/PU in April 2007.
But judging from the preview not much have happened sine then - still got that old, old video trailer for preview - could not find any "update" - but again - the vids at "videos" seems the same as in 2005/2006 - AND in a quality somewhere between lousy and almost fairly good. For todays standard it's worse...
tomjones - what is the status today of newer vid-quality?
Again like tomjones conclude the site - or rather the redheaded Justine has quality in her performance and special sexuality - still got some in my stash...
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09-05-11 05:19am
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