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REPLY TO #9 from hairyporn: (Ray O's Reply)

I also a agree with all of your points, I have recently cancelled my subscription because of the points that you have listed above. Unfortunately they have lost a lot of good photographers and not replaced them.
There is also a lack of new models coming on to the site.
The number of pictures in some sets are way too high I don't like trawling through hundreds of photos in the same set.
For some reason which I can't quite place the girls no longer look natural!
Another downside I have found is that the site is blocking download managers


01-03-11  08:57am

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REPLY TO #8 from messmer: (Ray O's Reply)

I basically agree with all the points you make regarding this site. It is really too bad because it was one of a small handful I revisited over and over.

As to your last paragraph, I was sure they would go under but it seems there are enough Porn users out there who prefer quantity to quality, but the sad thing is that I no longer care after watching disappointing updates, day after day. I finally decided, no more. So they definitely will no longer exist for users like you and me.


01-02-11  10:15am

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REPLY TO #15 from Monahan: (Ray O's Reply)

Any update on how things ultimately worked out?

I really like it when a webmaster takes the time to read and respond to a PU post and would like to know if Advent was successful in keeping you back on the site as a long term member.


10-19-10  09:13am

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from greg909:

Totally agree about the Sean R review. But I would add that, in my view, he needs to drop the hideous makeup and lipstick in so many shots. It completely spoils it for me when the model looks like a clown! And the clothes? I know some guys like the fantasy outfits, but do we have to have high-heel shoes in EVERY set? I find the clothing so, so corny which also takes me out of the shoot.

06-04-10  09:54am

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REPLY TO #6 from Capn: (Ray O's Reply)

I would go for 50% fully to part clothed 20% coy nude & 30% explicit nude.

A lot of folk seem to have an odd idea of nude.
Pulled away top & skirt showing naughty bits is NOT nude!

BMB/Wanton is particularly guilty of this.

Other than that, I agree with you Ray.

Cap'n. :0)


02-19-10  02:25pm

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REPLY TO #4 from messmer: (Ray O's Reply)

What also happens with a smaller stable of photographers is that, no matter how many different sets of a model are offered, every set looks the same except for the first half page or so because that's their particular style.

My complaint in connection with most picture sites, and especially this one, has always (well, mostly recently) been that the model gets undressed too quickly and wears too little lingerie, leaving us with an unnecessarily large number of body shots in each set. If you have up to ten or more sets of the same model in your collection even explicit nudity gets boring.

There has to come a time when photographers and those who edit the sets leave in more of the fully and partially dressed pictures, in other words have a gradual progression from fully clothed to nude in their sets and save the really explicit shots for the last page otherwise everyone will die of boredom. :-)

I'd be disappointed if there were no explicit pictures but three, four pages of nudes (especially of the same model) tends to become a bit repetitious and boring, don't you think?


02-16-10  01:04pm

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REPLY TO #11 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

I got the email you sent me today and I responded twice but I have not heard from you again. Are you getting my responses?

01-14-10  06:05pm

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REPLY TO #10 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

I understand your frustrating about the situation. After responding to your emails a couple of times as you stated, then nothing I would think something was going wrong also. I assure you I did not get the latter emails you stated or I would have responded to you. As you can see I am an active member here and respond as quickly as I can. I am very sorry your emails were lost in a cyper blackhole but that was not my intention. You have my correct personal email at the office. Please email me and be sure to tell me you are Ray O and I can get you what you want. Again, I am very sorry all of this had to happen and I am here for our members and I want to give you what you desire.

01-14-10  02:48pm

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REPLY TO #8 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

I this blast Advent day??? I responded to the other post you made. What notes are you talking about? I am not seeing any emails from you in my inbox. Are you emailing customer support?

01-14-10  08:58am

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REPLY TO #12 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

I have to disagree with you. I followed up on the emails you sent me but I did not hear back from you. I was in Hawaii for a couple weeks last month and someone else was handling the majority of customer service. I am sure they were not aware of the situation, so it was probably dismissed as some looking for free access. I told you I would give you perks and I still stand by that. I also said I needed to know what site(s) you were looking for and your user name before I set anything up for you. I did not want to just give you something and it not be what you are looking for.

I pride myself on making sure I follow up with our members and I apologize very much if you feel that I did not do that. I will wait to hear from you.


01-14-10  08:55am

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from Ray O:

Just an Update:

I never did hear back from Advent after she promised that ATK would do something to acknowledge my years of loyal subscription. I emailed her several times after she told me to and she replied once hinting that she was going to do something for me. Then I never heard from her again despite repeated tries.

So when you read the above stream of comments from Advent at ATK that make it sound like they care about customers, realize that they never tried to follow through. They did nothing at all.

I guess a whole lotta nothing says a lot of something....

Ray O


01-14-10  07:00am

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from Capn:

Yeah, I was a long term member, I let it run for a few years.

What made me cancel was when the zip files went huge & we were only left with the download all or nothing option, when I only wanted maybe 30% of the pics.

Still waiting on user custom zips being enabled. ;0)


12-02-09  12:07pm

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from greg909:

I have to agree with the various comments here. To add some of my recent thoughts (late 2009):

1. Although there are several new sets each day, most are of the same models who appeared in multiple sets over the last month. The only difference in a model's many sets are the clothes she wears on page 1. The poses, etc, are almost identical, which gets tedious.

2. Quite a few models used to have at least one peeing set, which gives some variety and excitement. But now, ATK keeps the pee sets for its "watersport" section on ATK Galleria, so we almost never see a model's peeing set on the Hairy site. Bring them back!

3. Apart from the hideous tattoos, piercings, bizzare makeup, wrinkled grandmothers... we also have to get high-heel shoes in most shots. It's so corny! Please ATK, give us more natural girls in NORMAL clothing who don't look like circus freaks.

4. And yeah, the image quality is quite good in about half the sets, but it could improve, and much larger size options would at least give us the scope of better detail. Some sets are way over compressed, with detail suffering badly.

Still the best hairy site, but much room for improvement!


11-27-09  12:19pm

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REPLY TO #7 from alexmedia: (Ray O's Reply)

1) Yes, It's legal in EU and US and some other countries, but it's still illegal in most Asia (except Japan) and Middle East countries as well as in ex-USSR countries. Probably you just don't know how many ppl were arrested in ex-USSR countries for producing and distributing porn movies or running web-cam studios, I can say - a lot. And I don't speak about illegal porn like zoo, rape or underage, I am talking about legal (in US and EU) porn. For sure being in Ukraine or somewhere else you can buy porn, but any way it would be illegal to sell it.

2) I believe the porn as industry was started in EU and I know that US was ( and still IS in many States) very puritan country in 50's-70's. But now I would say that the biggest market for porn industry is US and the most customers from US.

3) Yes, I heard story about Max Hardcore, but as I said above in many countries it is illegal to produce any kind of porn.

4) Totally agree with you, that's true. The most ppl who against porn still watching it. And this situation very common not only in US but in rest of the world too :(


11-27-09  01:11am

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REPLY TO #5 from alexmedia: (Ray O's Reply)

Good point.

btw, only Americans created Porn Culture (Exhibitions, Pornstars and so on) otherwise in many countries to create porn is illegal and no body say "I like to watch porn" because it's against common social feelings.


11-26-09  07:04pm

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from alexmedia:

(3) I've never seen good and interactive member's forum. Usually member don't often write on porn forums, porn is more private thing.

11-26-09  08:45am

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REPLY TO #13 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

Our forum went live today. Please look at the site news section to learn more about it.

11-24-09  12:04pm

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REPLY TO #2 from Advent: (Ray O's Reply)

I apologize I did not see your post sooner. I was with family this weekend and I was on the set of a shoot all day yesterday. Of course we do not like to lose long standing members of our sites. I would just like to explain that when I receive a notice to cancel from our members I have to cancel them right away without asking any questions. We do not want people to think we are giving them trouble about canceling. As far as giving our long time members some perks....I am all about that but you have to tell me you are looking for a perk. I do not know why you are canceling and I am not allowing to ask but if you email me and tell me what is going on I am always here for our members.

I was not aware of the fact that you have been a member for so long, I just took over customer service. Had you told me I would have looked at your account and we could have talked about a perk for you. I am very sorry you left us and I am very sorry you feel that we do not take care of members. I have been brought on to change all of that. As far as a forum, you are in luck because we have launched a forum for our sites today. I mentioned a little while back that we were working on and it went live today. I was going to post about it on the site new section today.

If you want to come back and let me try to make up it up to you just let me know.


11-24-09  12:03pm

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REPLY TO #11 from messmer: (Ray O's Reply)

I agree with your views so eloquently expressed from 1) to 5) and always subscribed to ATK Natural and Hairy in the past and at present because they featured natural girls next door.

I do take back my remarks re. the quality of the models (except for Dhara) because I was influenced by the lack of excitement in their sets. I consistently gave ones and twos over the past month but then went to the models' page to give them a five just to appease my conscience. :-) And, no, I can't point to another site that does things better .. some are better like Anilos or AllOver 30, but only marginally so.

I have voiced the same complaint in connection with both of those sites as well. The models a) don't wear enough (see Sally in todays update: one unexciting dress and a spread shot after FOUR pictures and that set gets a "hot!".. go figure) and b) the photographers have forgotten about pretty lingerie.

If you are going to have ten sets or more of a given model there should be more than just a slight difference of outer apparel from one set to the other and only varied lingerie can accomplish that, in my eyes. Even though it sounds as if lingerie is a fetish of mine, it might be but I don't really think so, I am only being logical.

There's only so much excitement you can get out of complete nudity, especially if the same model is being used over and over. And no, I don't think over-exposure did it to me. Look at the early sets of SeanR and his most recent ones. Quite the difference because nowadays they look almost bland by comparison. The difference? He's down to basics like everyone else, the necessary adornments to the human body having been set aside for the sake of a quicker shoot?

Well, today is my last day with ATK, so R.I.P. If we'll ever get back what I call the "tease factor" in the Porn business at large who knows. They are being driven by the demands of the consumer and quite obviously many, many Porn Users like things just fine just the way they are or we wouldn't see so many sets designated "hot" at ATK on a daily basis.


11-22-09  09:37am

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Reply of Ray O's Comment from RagingBuddhist:

As I rarely allow a rebill, I find that amazing. After 8 years at a site, I think they should send you enough frequent flyer miles to take a nice vacation somewhere.

11-22-09  08:45am

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REPLY TO #2 from TheRizzo: (Ray O's Reply)

I can respect that Ray. I like the hardcore myself, but at least they put it in its own catagory so if you don't want to see dicks, you can avoid it.

I for one am still glad they added it though.


11-09-09  09:32pm

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REPLY TO #4 from alexmedia: (Ray O's Reply)

That's good :)

10-31-09  11:49pm

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Reply of Ray O's Review from alexmedia:

How much content do they have in member zone?

10-30-09  12:50am

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Reply of Ray O's Review from Capn:

I sincerely hope it is better organised than their archive site.

That is very poorly laid out.

Cap'n. :0/


10-22-09  03:48pm

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REPLY TO #8 from Capn: (Ray O's Reply)

Well, I do like a lot of their content, as and when they get to providing the custom zip function, I certainly will be rejoining.
:0)


10-22-09  09:45am


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