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I'm thinking I used to spend about $20-30 a month on magazines and videos back in the...80s, plus an Atlanta, Dallas, Houston or Fort Lauderdale strip club once every couple of months or so. That was maybe 40 images per $5 magazine and one crappy video rental a week. When you consider Moore's rule of technology (doubles every 6 months-2 years), and you throw in inflation, I'd say on-line porn is about the same or slightly better value than porn of prior years.
And although I know where there are some really, really...um...satisfying strip clubs, it is hard to compare that to having a private video chat with any one of about a million girls, some of whom are popular models on your favorite porn sites, with the ability to ask her to do just about anything you can imagine right there in living color...probably for less than you would spend at a strip club.
And if you think that is cool, just wait until you see POV and real-time role-play porn on an Oculus Rift! This technology will blow your everything!
So I guess the value (and budget) is about the same but the technology makes it all much better.
A good value compared to what? Magazines? Old VHS? DVDs? Strip clubs? A date? A girlfriend? A hooker? A wife? (I'm mostly kidding...) :-)
I agree with Pat and RearAdmiral about the volume and variety available on-line being unlike anything else, ever, but I've also experienced what Greymane mentions with rip-off sites. It amazes me that some of these sites can be in business at all.
In the end, you often make a decision based on the sales pitch you are given. Sometimes the result is all that is promised, but often it is not. Thankfully, there is a community here at PU, "The community-based Consumer Reports of porn", that helps us by providing timely and accurate reviews so we know what we are getting into.
OK, I know what you mean, but I really think they have improved a LOT at Femjoy in the last 4 or 5 years. I keep all my images by year (10 years worth for Femjoy) and I just went back and opened some zip files from 2007. They are good, but sometimes these images are a little darker and sometimes the emphasis is on the overall locale with the model included in the image periphery someplace. This was pretty common in softcore several years back and was a technique made popular by Holly Randall and others from the days of Penthouse magazine (the "artsy" dark hazy look, the halo look and the High Dynamic Resolution look sometimes still used by Michael Ninn and others can go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned.) Honestly, a panoramic shot with the model in the image can sometimes be very beautiful, but it does not appeal to everyone, it should be used very sparingly and it distracts from the reason for the set, which is the model. Dark sets do crop up occasionally and I too get very frustrated with them. Fortunately, those sets are very rare. Digital cameras are much better these days, too, so the softness we used to see sometimes is also rare.
One thought....sometimes they mess with the thumbnail image to brighten it up for the text they are adding, not simply to improve the image. This may be why you sometimes see brighter thumbnails.
These days I download and unzip the zip files of entire sets instead of just individual images. I also have a single folder where I keep the very best high-resolution images because of the model, the pose and the image quality, not because of the locale. If an image I want to keep happens to have a little too much space at the bottom or top (often they are formatted portrait but could easily be cropped to be landscape), then I just load up Adobe Photoshop and crop it myself. I just looked at my jumbo best-of collection, about 1000 images, and I've probably cropped 75% of them, but I've only messed with color balance and brightness on about 10% of them. These are the cream of the crop models and images across about 30 sites, but they still required a little cropping to suit my tastes and emphasize the model over the locale. I imagine that may be the case for others as well.
Photographers these days need to be all things to all people. That means they need to do panoramas, full body shots, close ups, hands and feet, face shots, coy shots and open shots, all with both direct eye contact and averted eyes. A little of everything. Amazingly, probably 80% of the Femjoy sets and 60%-80% of the images in those sets for last few years are keepers for me. That may not sound like much, but that is an incredibly high percentage compared to the average soft core site I visit. Of course, your mileage will vary, but I think the photographers at Femjoy do a very, very good overall job these days of keeping their audience happy.
I've been to japan and the things girls do for money in clubs and parlors there are unbelievable. When it comes to fetishes, they might even top the US. I knew a top-tier American stripper who went over there for a year because the money was almost double what she made in the US. Paid for 4 years of college in less than a year! (Somebody paid her $10,000 cash to be a blindfolded, glass topped table for 2 hours including breaks.) I'm guessing this is why a lot of the great oriental porn actresses won't leave Japan to shoot a video without blurring...they probably make more and expose less by staying in the country.
So, yes, the double standard is very frustrating. But there probably isn't much we are going to be able to do about it.
I think part of the problem is the demand on photographers and models to satisfy different tastes. I happen to like full-body shots where the model is looking at the camera. Not everyone does. I don't like shots of just hands or feet. Many others do. Front, back, top, bottom, close-up, full-body, stand, sit, closed, spread, etc. Just rattling off the different types of shots takes me to about 40 images. So if there is a "formula" checklist of shot types and positions that photographers must follow in order to get top dollar for their sets, it probably automatically includes about 50-60 shots.
Keep in mind also that photographers often hire models by the day and will shoot multiples sets in one venue or in different room in the same rented house or hotel room...or that webmasters often break up photo shoots into multiple sets to save money. And if they happen to have a very popular or very exclusive model, the images get rationed out like diamonds by DeBeers, sometimes appearing years after the model has retired. So for me, it is somewhere between 30 and 100 images. I'll pull the whole set down and cull anything I don't want anyway.
This is kind of a funny question because it is probably based on what we WANT to see vs. what we ACTUALLY see. In the US, with our weird views toward nudity, there are very few topless and nude beaches, but no matter where you find them, they are not the eye-candy havens you would think. Most are filled with much older men and women that you don't particularly want to see naked. You just can't un-see some of it. Then there are the gawkers who don't get that nude/topless beaches are not exclusively for the 20-something crowd. The few good looking men and women that do show up at these beaches are often (not always) just exhibitionists looking for a venue. South Beach in Miami is probably the best topless beach in the US and it is a lot of fun to visit, but be prepared to see a few things that will....well...spoil the view.
Absolutely true about the fish eye. What is interesting about this site is that many (not all) of the videos are a mix of go-pro on the head and tripod-over-the-bed-behind-the-guy video. This method avoids the shake-as-you-bang effect. There are also a few seconds here and there where one of the cameras is visible. One of them is a small, decent quality HD video camera with internal stabilization. And there almost always seems to be a 2nd person involved in the shoot in one way or another. So these guys are not out to make cheap videos, they are out to make a lot of money by spreading their collection over as many sites as possible. That strategy will work once their collection is a little larger, but right now it is just frustrating.
OK, just to clarify, the refund was for a double billing. I paid Rocketgate for the annual subscription and then a few days later, Epoch charged me for the old monthly subscription because they did not get notice of the change. One moral to the story is that if you are going to upgrade, don't wait until a day or two before your original subscription would normally rebill. Give it a little more time than that....maybe a week in advance. You aren't losing anything because the upgrade only kicks in when the old subscription ends.
The images are shot in very high resolution so when you blow them up, they are still sharp (unlike some sites that just take smaller pictures and increase their resolution). Many of the images are very sharp, but unfortunately, when you magnify blurry, you get VERY blurry. It all depends on the source image and the focus point that the photographer chooses.
Well....lately I've been trying foreign clubs (russian and latin) and this one popped up on my radar. I noticed that they now have a payment option for ccbill, so apparently they are figuring out that we don't want to be billed directly. I will probably try them within the next month or so and will write a review when I do.
For me, it's a toss-up. Random username/passwords aren't bad IF your browser is allowed to remember them. (That way, you only enter it once and don't have to remember it.) If not, random username/PW are the worst. It is why I dropped my Watch4Beauty subscription...because they do not allow your browser to keep the info. Capcha is rapidly becoming the most annoying as it becomes more widespread, though. What is the purpose, exactly, to make sure you are not using a download bot? You already paid for the material, right?
Looks like I need to keep looking around. There is one bonus site that isn't bad called Ariel Rebel. Although I don't recall seeing the girl before, the solo site has Recent updates, decent vidos, etc.
Well.... think I get the question. Or maybe I'm interpreting it in a particular way. There is sometimes a distinct period of time between the orgasmic groan (or virtual groan if yours is silent) and actual ejaculation. The question is how long can one hold that sensation that causes the groan before shooting off? Well, for me, maybe a couple of seconds the first time. Longer, but less intense the second or third times, probably because there is not as much left to hold back....
It is amazing how convenient digital media is. I"ve collected over 2 TB over the past 16 years or so, almost entirely images. Of course the old stuff is like 8mm film and you can hardly even see the videos on today's screens. Those old videos are laughable.
Apparently they WERE telling me to screw off since future sign-up is "no longer an option". Here's the final message I got from the webmaster. You have to wonder what people are thinking in terms of marketing when there are public review forums like this. Was it retaliation for writing the comments? I don't know. It's just very dissappointing. And I'd bet that they never even try to replicate the problem I outlined.
No disrespect intended and no justification is necessary on either end. Our site is not a good fit for you. We both recognize that. Your $19.95 has been promptly refunded
Future signup is no longer an option. As I said earlier, we're sorry it was so difficult for you. Login authentication is not supposed to be a complicated, frustrating experience.
On 2/8/2013 5:22 PM, skippy99 wrote:
Well, Iím more than a little disappointed that you just closed my account and refunded my money, but I suppose that is your prerogative. The reason I contacted ccBill and not you was that I really wasnít expecting anyone to respond to me from your site at 1:00 in the morning. Usually, ccBill can reset locked passwords and even change them and I know they are there 24/7.
From: Webmaster at MPL Studios
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Your login process is a nightmare!
This is one of those cases where I read the review and did not quite get what you were saying. I was thinking the site has probably changed a lot since you signed up 5 years ago. Guess what? It hasn't.
Wow, now I just read the entire message from the webmaster and read the email he sent me. Although I can't really tell if he's telling me to screw off or not...the message was pretty polite...I am a little dissappointed that he just closed the account.
I'll try again some other time. Knowing what I do now about the login issue, I should be able to get around it without getting locked out.
I absolutely agree that ccBill is perhaps the best billing system. The problem, though, is that the site determines policy and ccBill abides by it. The random password is the site. Login attempts is the site. the tab issue is probably a comibination of site and ccbill as niether seem aware that it is an issue.
The reason I went to ccBill is because they are the site's wallet. If the issue comes from ccBill to the site, chances that it will be addressed are sometimes better than if it were just a little old user.
And lastly, I've had a few instances lately where login servers have been down and I was unable to get into sites. The login servers belong to ccbill. In those cases, you need to complain to both ccBill and to the paysite. There are usually quality of service clauses in the service level agreement between them and you want both parties to think at least a little bit about whether those clauses have been broken.
Interesting response. No "Sorry" message. No possible way that the web site could have done anything wrong. Operator error is the only thing it could have been. (Did I mention that I've been in IT for 20 years?) Kind of arrogant and politically incorrect, don't you think? The ONLY way to accurately enter in a cryptic username password combination like the one you assigned to me is to copy it from the ccbill site and paste it into the host site and that is exactly what I did. About 20 times.
YOUR site locked me out after multiple attempts based on the IP address I was using. When I loaded an anonymous browsing client that uses a proxy server, I was able to get in, but was unable to download more than a few images before, within 60 seconds of logging in, I got a message from YOUR site that said I was accessing the site from an unauthorized IP address (i.e. the proxy server) and tossed me out again. I clicked on the download button for the ZIP, but did not get the file. Probably an issue with the proxy server, not yours.
It's kind of too bad, too, because I liked the little bit I saw of your site.
I'll tell you what. I'll try again tonight to get in. If you look at my other revews for similar sites you will see that I write fair and in many cases glowing reviews. If I get in I will write a review that is untainted by this incident. But in return, you need to secret shop your own site from outside your facility on a typical IP connection. Use Internet Explorer. Buy a subscription. Click on the link in the "Approved" page that ccBill provides and watch as a tab within IE opens. See for yourself that it is physically impossible to get back to the ccBill login page (in an IE tab) once you click login and your website login pop-up appears. Try it a dozen times like I did and see if your site locks you out. Then get back to me and either say "Yes, we can see how this might be a problem" or "No, we tested this exactly as you described and were able to toggle tabs once the login pop-up appeared and were not locked out.
Your call. Actually replicate the issue as I carefully described above, or continue to be a defensive sysadmin who refuses to beleive something an intellegent, experienced customer tells them about their site.
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