Another excellent review. This is another one which has been on my shortlist for about two years, but I've never got around to joining. Your review at least gives me an idea of what I'm buying, so thanks for the info.
Net Video Girls wastes a lot of talent. Most of the time it looks like a chimpanzee is holding the camera, capturing random shots of anything that wanders in and out of view. However, I don't remember it being part of the deal before.
Another excellent review. I'm a member there currently and I agree about ECG and BCC being two of the best sites around, especially if you're into the casting niche, which I am.
One of the biggest downsides of this type of niche is having your one chance of seeing a porn video and photo set of a beautiful non professional girl wasted because of ineptitude. Occasionally you see what could be an amazing porn experience being completely ruined. It's a hard job, and I couldn't do it, but I wish some of them occasionally did it better. Having said all that, I think these two sites get the balance right most of the time.
Sorry I can't answer this admiral. When I was a member I never encountered one, but that maybe due to me downloading a photo set and video together before moving on. Capturing each photo manually took ages so I didn't download that many videos in one day.
I think you'll be impressed with the quality of photography. It's true what some members have said - it's not the highest of HD when compared to the top spec, but the material is so so good. One more thing - when you cancel you get offered a discount
If you want to compare the difference between Epoch and the rip off charges at CCBill here's an illuminating experience. Tonight I received a special offer from Backroom Casting Couch as a previous member for $19.99. I followed the link and decided to join. The $19.99 worked out at £14.88 using CCBill's extortionate currency conversion system, but hey, I was getting a good bargain so I went ahead. Transaction denied, and a link to join through Epoch. Strange. The Epoch join page came up for £12.82. This time the deal went through.
I looked at a mail from CCBill that said my bank had denied the transaction. However the Epoch membership went through at just over two pounds cheaper. That's a whopping great 13% difference in conversion between CCBill and Epoch. Looks like my bank did me a favour and prevented me from being ripped off. Quite accidentally of course, not sure wtf they stopped the first transaction, but it certainly gives you an idea of the difference in value between Epoch and CCBill.
Ah yes, I agree. The best way to get a preview is to go to the TBP review then click on the "Network Sites. This network provides access to 25 sites." Click on each individual site and you'll get a reasonable preview.
Before you part with your money read the reviews for this network. If you're thinking of joining and want to download photos you have to do it manually. I think it's best to join one of the sites on the network for $29.95, which will give you access to a limited number of other sites on the network as it'll take you ages to manually download photos from just a few sites.
Oh yeah - Merry Christmas Admiral, and to Graymane, Khan, and all the regulars.
That's exactly how I feel Monahan. I want to hear it confirmed changes have been made, because I don't want to go through the same hassle again. Make it easy to cancel, and I'll return as a customer. Private have a reputation and name for genuine porn, I hope it isn't going to be ruined.
Agreed about replacing that talent, but they still produce some great stuff. Admittedly it's a little closer to the internet porn norm than it used to be, but they are still a quality production company.
Thanks Monahan - ditto my comments above! It means more coming from someone like yourself and graymane who take care over your contributions, and we wont be letting a few ruin the site without a fight.
Thank you, your kind comments are always appreciated because I know you take time, and care over what you post too. There is a core of us who are proud of our contributions, and it's good to be a part of that. Stick around, and don't worry about the few who like to ruffle feathers.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
No download limits, DRM, or regional discrimination.
Upmarket glossy settings instead of the usual cum stained casting couch.
Different locations plus professionally produced and lit videos with some good angles, makes the material look different to the usual mass produced porn.
Good speeds on streaming and download.
Access to one of the most well established, and professional porn studios, giving access to a good variety of new and archive material.
HD videos look really good.
Consistent updates, albeit of different age and quality.
Very little filler material.
Their representative did take the time to appear at PU and answer concerns about cancellation problems.
Cancellation not confirmed, took a number of messages and emails to confirm cancellation.
Awful navigation and search facilities.
Old and new, high and low spec videos, all mixed in together.
Clips from same dvd mixed up over different sites.
Some videos don't play.
Only mp4 available for download or streaming.
Too many fake breasts.
A little less material than on big sites.
This place is a delight and pain in the ass in equal measure, what you get though is quality stuff. Private is yet another dvd site masquerading as a network, so I use the main home page as base, then use the various sites as a filter and search facility. I am still finding some great material, but with no meaningful category search facilities, it is hard work and time consuming being a member. Browsing can be frustrating and no fun, if you spend more time searching than viewing.
On the main home page videos are not listed in chronoligical order of update, although scenes are, and so are the scenes on the individual sites, but updates are a mix of new and old material, so you get old 480 quality, mixed with 720 and 1080 quality, and scenes from each dvd are split up across the network on different sites. This has to be one of the most irritating porn sites to browse on the internet. Everything is mixed up together like an Eton Mess (created when a student dropped his dessert on the floor resulting in everything being mixed up. That sums up navigation).
For instance, if you go to Private Castings you will find a selection of videos with names like Guns And Rough Sex, Sex Auditions, and Cum To Daddy, split up into clips, but you wont find them all on the same site. For example, Cum To Daddy has a clip on Private Castings, but the other scenes from that video are to be found on both Russian Teen Ass, and Tight And Teen.
To me some of the older 480 clips don't look at all good, despite some glamorous and luxurious location filming, directors often can't resist changing from one angle to another, like you're going to get bored watching a beautiful girl getting fucked from the same angle for more than ten seconds, and once again there are far too many gynaecological closeups, and fake breasts.
Things could be so much more enjoyable with a little thought and organisation. Or maybe there is thought and organisation behind it all. Of course you don't think a company like Private just leaves it to chance do you? They've been around since 1965, and don't get to be in business this long by leaving things to chance. You think piracy is putting these guys out of business? I don't think so. They pre date internet porn, they predate video, they nearly predate me, but not quite.
Ah yes, video tapes, remember those? You'd make the effort, to go to one of those video shops, and fork out a lot of money buying the genuine article from some distant relative of the Krays, who'd only recently got the jail bars off his arse, but it was worth it, you finally had the real thing. Then you'd get it home and put it in the video machine, and wait, and wait, and wait...then finally, finally, after half an hour, it got to the good bit, and then it was over. WHAT!? That's as bad as my sex life, that can't be it!
But it was, and you didn't even have a remote control to forward wind. Ah, but they knew how to frame a shot, and they were actors, and it was all produced so well, but you just wasted an hour and a half of your life.
Porn is now vastly improved so I'm being a little harsh in judging Private who has to compete with the number of dvd's on the likes of Video Box or Videos Z, and the number of sites on 21 Sextury or Teen Mega World, and are attempting a sleight of hand at trying to make it look as though there is more than there really is. I think there's enough anyway, without the sleight of hand, even though the older material is far inferior in picture spec, though not in production. Making searching impossible and time consuming means longer memberships.
Same goes for the cancellation problem. It maybe designed that way for a reason. It took a number of emails and messages to get them to confirm my cancellation. One of the problems was their internal service did not recognise my membership password, so it was impossible to cancel using their links. Some of those missed cancellations are going to slip through "accidentally" which means more money.
The newer vids look very impressive, and if I was going to compare them to anything it would be to those early higher budget porn movies shot on film. Picture content is varied. Some clips have only 5-10 pics, some have over 100, and some have none at all, but they are of good quality when they exist, and can be downloaded in zipped form, or browsed through on the same player as the videos.
Private has lasted this long, mainly because they've maintained a high standard, and given people what they want - action, and done it with a style and professionalism that few others have. The videos don't all look the same as they do on some networks, due to a number of different directors working in different locations.
If not for the cancellation problems and navigation I would have stayed longer and scored higher. Just before I was due to post this review, the Private representative appeared on PU to answer the cancellation concerns. If that improves I will join again.
Good to hear a response and also good to hear there will be improvement on cancellations. If not for that and the navigation I would have scored higher. Review will appear later today when I have time to edit out 1000 words or so. You have some great material, and the niche sites at least allow a way to filter or search by category. If cancellation improves I will buy another membership.
I will be interested to hear whether that cancellation goes through. I eventually had two emails assuring me my membership was cancelled, but at the time of cancellation received no confirmation. I was not impressed. They should make it easier, as they have good material and don't have a bad reputation - yet. I received a confirmation of membership but no mention on how to cancel. The only way to cancel seemed to be to go on their site, and follow the link, but for the cancellation to go through I had to sign in with my password which was not recognised. Not good practice.
Agree with the above two. I get tons of emails from them but at a fiver a throw I'm happy to get the emails because it means very substantial discounts. There is a link at the bottom of the emails to unsubscribe.
You had exactly the same problem I had. I cancelled about 4 days after joining so had plenty of time to get a response. I emailed them and left messages through their internal service totalling five times and eventually got a response. When I checked under "existing requests" my password hadn't been recognised. It seems just like you I wasn't recognised as a member so couldn't cancel.
I'm currently compiling a review now, and one of the things I note is a company like this doesn't get to stay in business this long purely by chance. The clips are mixed up for a reason. It's to make things less easy to browse and download quickly and also to make it look as though there is more than there is. Same thing goes for not acknowledging cancellation. I'm sure a number of cancellations don't go through and don't receive complaints, which makes them more money.
In my emails I did say I would be cancelling my credit card and complaining about fraudulent deductions if another monthly payment was taken. It took them 48 hours but they got back to me, answering two of my messages. They offered me a 30% discount to keep up my membership but it had been such a hassle to cancel I didn't take them up on it.
Sadly I couldn't find any magazines, but you can download zipped photos. Choose the pictures option at the top of the viewer. At the bottom of the viewer, below the line of photos there's a download zip option. Right click and save as.
Thanks for the warning. Conmen are everywhere, and this sort of thing gives online porn a dirty reputation. We know there are many decent customer oriented ones around who are happy to give you a good deal at a fair price. Places like this hurt the good ones. Let's hope this warning helps others.
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
A large collection of professionally shot dvd's.
An unusually good selection of pics for a dvd site.
Excellent variety of download and streaming facilities, including HD, with good download speeds.
No download limits or DRM.
A variety of action across the vanilla porn range.
Discounts available through TBP/PU.
Many attractive girls in a variety of shape, size, age, and colour.
Easy log in, only requires username and password, which is remembered.
Pre checked cross selling
Not easy to cancel, it took a few emails to get them to confirm my cancellation.
Clicking the back button takes ages to get a response.
Pictures not zipped.
Far too many tats and fake breasts.
Duplication of clips across the network.
I usually boycott any site that practices regional discrimination or pre checked cross selling, but I joined up because of the special £5/$5 offer by email, and we all know by now the price of my principals is a fiver. What I expected to find was a dvd site along the usual lines, and Devils Film IS mainly a dvd site, but it is more than that, mainly due to some very unexpected high quality pictures.
The mainstay of the site is videos, which are high standard and professional on all fronts, being well photographed, lit, and edited, with fewer really awful bottom of the barrel cheap dvd's you sometimes see on the big dvd sites. The high spec material looks great even on streaming. Older material (by that I mean clips with the ripe old age of two years) are of lower quality, but I still found many to be well worth viewing or collecting.
I found acceptable speeds for both downloading and streaming, apart from the one irritation of the back page button taking ages to respond. As usual I did find things a little slower in the peak UK hours of late afternoon and early evening, but the main default option of Web HD 540, still worked well. Streaming looks great, especially on more recent videos, with a picture box allowing you to move backwards and forwards to any part of the clip almost immediately, with no buffering. For HD 720 and 1080 it was a little more difficult to maintain a constant picture.
Web HD 540 is the default streaming option, with the ability to stream higher spec videos in HD 720 or Full HD 1080. If you are used to HD, and prefer it, you will notice the difference between the older 480, and newer 720 or 1080 videos, but I think there is some worthwhile stuff in the lower 480 spec, and don't forget this is mainly a dvd site, so is therefore limited to that spec. The presence of good quality pictures makes you forget this is mainly a dvd site and should be judged as one, but also makes you wish they would shoot scenes for online, in true HD.
The fantastic photos here caught me entirely by surprise. They are done very professionally, like most things on this network, with some very good softcore posing followed by hardcore, along the same lines as Teen Core Club. What quality of photos you get for each scene however, is hit and miss. Some are great photo shoots with a great selection of photos, some only have a few, some are merely screenshots, and some have no photos or screenshots at all. The one big downside is they have no zipped photos. so you have to capture each one individually.
I quite liked the layout of the home pages, with attractive pictures showing the content of each clip. You can choose to view by clip, or filter to show each dvd, then look at each clip from that dvd. Many dvd's appear more than once on the sites. I found no videos or dvd's which weren't listed on the Fame Digital site, so I used that as my main base, using the individual sites as a kind of filter. Material is not exclusive, but updates are regular, with some of them being shot some time ago.
There's a good variety of material across the network: cream pie, anal, double anal, lesbian, tranny, gang bang, orgy, and many more, so although it is material from a single producer, there is enough variety to keep up interest. There is a good variety of shape, size, age, and colour of women too, although most of them do have that professional look. If there is any tendency here, it's towards anal.
At the time my membership ended they had 3764 dvd's on Fame Digital. Downloads were generally available in wmv or mp4 with older clips coming in at 480 and newer ones at 720 or 1080. I read bad things about their search facilities, but didn't use it. I didn't join for anything particular and was happy flitting about the place. Logging in is easy as it only requires your username and password, which is remembered across the network. I would consider the place to be consumer friendly if not for the dirty tricks. It took quite an effort to get them to confirm my cancellation. They practice pre checked cross selling and regional discrimination, so this is not a place I would normally visit, but for a fiver it was certainly worth it. If not for those dirty tricks I would be happy to pay for several months' membership.
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