As usual, a BIG thanks for a thorough review. As I mentioned elsewhere, it seems we have similar taste and I joined a week or two ago based on your review.
To be honest, I'm not crazy about the site. While I agree with most everything you said, I don't feel the models are beautiful, or at least they're not my type. Or maybe the gonzo genre is not for me. It's a shame since the site has so many good things going for it. But the repetitiveness is also a big minus for me, though most sites seem to share that flaw. It's like you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
On a positive note, it is apparently run by professionals who seem to be concerned with treating their customers like valuable assets. What a novel concept! ;) And they are responsive. The site is set up great, the 4 (or 2 for the older videos) choices of downloads is a plus and the production is a plus. I would also like to thank the webmaster for being active here.
Current Member for over 1 year (at the time of review).
* Cheap, cheap, cheap
[Just trying to make a point and probably the best reason for joining. At 49 cents a minute (if you spend $100), this is a fraction of the price of other cam sites, not that I am an aficionado of this stuff.]
* A good number of amateurs which is a plus and minus.
* Customer support is much improved. I've had several legitimate complaints about the girls over the years. I often get an apology, a credit and they kick the girl off the site.
* Mostly Eastern Europeans, Latinas and Filipinos - I never came across anyone from the US. I consider that a plus.
* A rating system that mostly works along with comments made by users. You have to take the comments with a grain of salt though, since some are bogus. But as a whole, they're helpful. There's also a 5 star rating system which is useful.
* Uses CC for credit cards - I never had an issue
* Half price specials every so often
* It is not private chat and you start paying the moment you enter the girl's room. Some models ignore you (or don't notice you're there).
* Many of the models will drag on chatting as long as possible to maximize profits, no matter what you say, i.e., TAKE IF OFF B!THCH -- just joking. I can understand that but some are unreasonable. All the while, you're paying.
* Some models will only chat and it might take 5 minutes or more to realize that.
* The majority of models are 6 or under though there are 9+'s on there also.
* I've heard that management is late with payments to the models and is not a primary concern of theirs. This is an unsubstantiated rumor. The women only get half, the site gets the other half. And they get less if they're going through a sponsor's computer, which seems to be common. The low payments to the models may affect the quality of women and explain why there are no Americans.
To be clear, the high score given by me is based on both value and quality. If I had to break it down, it would be 100 for value and 70 for quality.
This site is modeled differently than other sites and I think it works. With other sites, at least the ones I'm aware of, you get to chat with the model before entering the room and start paying. But it's difficult to chat with a model when there are umpteen other people trying to do the same. There could be a dozen or so guys chatting along with you.
On Extasy, you go right into the room and start paying. Since it doesn't seem to be a very popular site, the models are often alone or with one other person. This is particularly true at off times, i.e., not the weekend. You generally get the same interaction here when you enter as you would if you entered a room in another site. The drawback of course, is that you don't have the opportunity before you start paying to judge the model. All in all, I think the system works as long as you keep in mind you're paying from the moment you enter the room and you take a few moments to look at the rating and reviews of the model.
I've been a member of this site for many years. I don't use it very much cuz as I said, cams aren't really my thing. So bear in mind, I am not all that familiar with the competition. However, I do enjoy it every so often. Usually, $100 worth of minutes will last a month or two or more.
Before entering a room, you get photos to look at and a quick live blurb. There's also a description written by the models which should be completely ignored. Many of them just use the same one the girl who occupies the room during the other shift uses. The best indicator if a model is good is the number of stars that users have given her and how many ratings she has. You get all this info before entering. For example, if someone has 5 stars and has only 1 rating, it's meaningless. It could be the sponsor who gave her the star. But if she's got 4 stars and 20 or more ratings, than you're chances are excellent of having a good experience.
I have mostly good things to say about my experience. I've come to understand the ratings which minimizes my chances of having a bad experience. I also have a rule of thumb that I give the woman no more than 5 minutes to show me she's serious. However, sometimes I don't mind just chatting and getting little exposure. I figure for the price, it's not a big deal.
I notice that many cam sites charge upwards of $1/minute. I would constantly be watching the clock if I was paying that. Here, I don't worry about it so much.
There is also the option of tipping (in minutes). Some models are aggressive about it saying they'll only do such and such for a tip. Mostly though, I rarely get asked for a tip though I make it a habit to leave one if deserved.
RA, thank you as always for your incredibly prolific and detailed reviews. You are the Robert Ebert of porn reviews. -)
I believe we have similar taste and that is another reason I read your reviews carefully. This site sounded right up my alley. Unfortunately, I was disappointed.
While the site has lots of great things going for it, I was bored after a few scenes. The scenes don't differ much and like the saying goes, if you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
I also disagree about Ryan not trying to upstage the wimmin. Maybe upstage is the wrong word, but he certainly has more of a presence than most males and sometimes even takes center stage. I believe he's a bit narcissistic and I grew weary of him fast.
Or maybe I've just grown jaded. I felt the same about the Abby Winters site, same ol' same ol'. Abby Winters even sent a generic email asking if there was a problem since I hadn't downloaded very much. I think I need something truly different but I have no idea what.
Kudos to the site in just about every other respect.
Based on the review or comment, I figured I'd try the site since there is a filter for uncensored. There is indeed a filter but it doesn't work! Or maybe these gents (or dames) have a different idea of the meaning of censorship. I contacted the biller, Epoch. At first, they told me to take it up with the site. I told them baloney, which it is... don't ever let a provider get away with saying that ... and I was gonna contact my bank to get a chargeback. They immediately refunded my money, like within 20 seconds.
I honestly don't know how anyone can enjoy a censored porn film but to each his own.
Yes, as far as I could tell, it allowed full access. I didn't mind paying the hefty price so much (I think it was $10+) since it got me full access and, as you pointed out, I could have easily downloaded everything in the trial time if I wanted.
Current Member for over 6 months (at the time of review).
The only positives I have are superficial and unrelated to the content, but here goes:
• No problem with billing and canceling recurring subscription
• Relatively inexpensive at $20 for the first month, which is all you’ll need due to limited content
• Unlimited downloads
• Choice of watching in a number of different formats; downloads in 2 flavors, both MP4 – Mobile 320 plus MP4 3000k
• The management seems to be open to suggestions and are seemingly approachable, though I can’t say for sure since one question hasn’t been answered yet. I make this assertion since the site seems to encourage participation in several areas.
Most of the following is subjective...
• They're new and the material is limited. I am only interested in hard core videos and I downloaded all of them in a few hours, about 40 with an average length of about 15 minutes.
• More than half the videos seemed to be soft core, i.e., solo girl and lesbian. I kind of had to figure out on my own what was what with the help of a brief (often unhelpful) description as well as a preview.
• There seems to be only 1 video upload a week. At that rate, it would be difficult justifying joining for a while for any reason.
• The content is second rate and the # of actresses is limited. I only found one or two semi-attractive. They’re not my type… the average age seems to be in the 30s, tattoos and silicon tits and just plain vulgarity seem to dominate.
• The site’s name is very misleading. There only appears to be one anal scene.
• They claim to offer access to another site, “Hot N Horny Amateurs.” There was nothing there when I checked.
I ran out of room in the con section, so first things first. To add to the list, there is a star rating system. It's a joke since every single video gets at least 4.5 or 5 stars out of 5. Ok, enough cons, you get the idea.
I know the cons seem overwhelming. However, I have hope for this site since they may be going through newbie pains and the people that run the site seem to care what their customers think. It's kind of like going to a new restaurant where they haven't gotten their act together but things mesh later on. I hope that will be the case here.
I really wanted to like this site and searched hard to find positive things to say. I went so far as to write the site’s owners for help in that department. Unfortunately, I received no answer, but it’s only been 24 hours and it’s the weekend. Besides, what could they say? The only positives I have are superficial and unrelated to the content.
There is a photo section and even an Erotic Stories section, but I was only interested in videos and did not check out these areas.
I really like checking out sites that contain other than American actors. I had only seen a few Australian videos and was looking forward to being immersed in a new culture. Oh well. Unfortunately, it doesn’t differentiate itself in any way as far as content except the actors have funny accents.
The good news is the 2 day trial worked fine... a little pricey for 2 days but one can likely download all the vids in that time.
I downloaded 3 vids and that was enough. I have to agree with many of Pat's remarks. The site was definitely too extreme for me but to each his own. However, the masks, circus-like acts and demeaning acts makes me hope that this site and those like it have a short life.
I've had some time to check out the site in more depth.
The site contains many of the same videos and seemingly the same actors as Teen Mega World. It almost seems like a clone. Both sites are excellent, but joining one is sufficient. Teen Mega World contains much more content, so that's the one I'd choose.
Khan, in hindsight, I've got to disagree with you here. Just because a site provides content doesn't mean it should warrant a listing on a trusted review site. That's my opinion. Better content can be found on free sites, seriously. And more importantly, this site is engaging in murky financial policies. I believe PU would be doing more of a service to members to take the listing down rather than have them experience what I have.
I'm not sure what benefit to other users a review would serve. I literally spent under 45 minutes on the site and there's not much to add then what's in the comment. And I'm not going back there because there's not much else to see and I'm afraid I'll suffer sever psychological trauma if I have to look at it again, haha. Again, still feeling my way around, but doesn't the comment serve the same warning that a review would?
No argument from me, guilty as charged. My only concern is why PU or TBP would continue to list a site with info 4 years old and more. That really is the only rationale I had for joining, the mistaken belief that if it's listed on these sites it's on the up and up. Still, mea culpa.
Your review got me to join and I'm happy I did. I admit my favorite scenes are threesomes, ggb, and there are plenty. I find we have fairly similar tastes and you've gotten me to join several sites, thank you. I've seen at least several of the wimmin before in Teen Mega World - WOW is a part of the network. And some of the movies seem repeats. But still well worth my dime.
Really, I don't know why PU even lists it. If it didn't, I wouldn't have thrown away my money. After all, it hasn't been reviewed in years. But I stupidly assumed that since it was listed it must be ok.
I can't give a full review because all I did was download 5 videos, the newest of which was from 2011. None would play in VLS, a problem I never had before. I managed to find a way to watch them and couldn't bear watching more than a few minutes. The worst quality I have ever encountered. It would flunk as a free site.
I wrote several messages to them on Thursday or Friday. Two were to cancel. No response. Another one was to ask if the site was really as horrible as it seemed or if I might be missing something. I also mentioned I was a PU member and would be writing about my experience and I really wanted to get it right. No response.
PU gods, please take another look at this site to see if you want to continue to list it.
Current Member for over 6 months (at the time of review).
* Includes 8 sites: 88square, All Asians, Asian Sex Club, Filipino Fuck, Keira Lee, Naked & Live, Tera (?) Lee, Tia Ling
* Good support (judging by one interaction)
* Some (not all) hot wimmin
* Didn't notice too many boring scenes that you usually see in the Japanese films, such as excessive playing with toys, though that's certainly included
* no daily download limit and downloads seemed fast
* Only 3 sites had hard core (maybe a plus for you) - All Asians, Asian Sex Club and Filipino Fuck
* I got bored really fast; I was only interested in hard core and therefore the 3 sites mentioned above - much of many of these videos were with the girl alone playing with herself or with toys, then the guy came in to have sex which practically put me to sleep
* I forget the stats, but the video quality was only fair, not good or great. I use a 27" Mac monitor.
* Didn't notice any anal scenes or threesomes, both generally absent in japanese and filipino hardcore
I was hoping for a lot better and was hoping to really like this site. Asian sex in general is one of my favorites along with Eastern European and Latin sites. There's a big difference among countries when it comes to Asian sex and I've come to favor Japanese sites which represent 2 of the 3hardcore sites here. I also like filipino sites. However, the sites shown here were just plain and bland, nothing exciting to get your dick all worked up about. If you're really into this niche, then you won't go wrong. I don't feel like I wasted my money, but it's highly unlikely I'll be back. I only glanced at the 5 other sites since soft core isn't my thing. There also seemed to be photo sets with each site, but again, not my thing.
I'll just add a few things to what's been said. My comments refer to the videos.
The girls are mostly hot, mostly from Holland I think. No overblown acting, tatoos or gonzo type videos for the most part. We're not in the San Fernando valley any more, thankst gawd. However, make no mistake, this is hardcore with a number of anal scenes and threesomes.
The technicalities... there's about 800 videos on the site, some fairly recent and none totally ancient. The recent ones have VG good quality at 1080p. The vast majority though are 540p. As with virtually every site I joined, there's not a helluvalot of variety in the scenes and direction. But it's not so tedious to make it a total turn off.
Willard pointed out some of the flaws. Searching, etc. My biggest complaint, which really isn't that BIG, is having to log in constantly and losing your place. That could be a real bummer if you're on page 50 of 100... you have to take the slow way back which can be tedious. However, the site sometimes allowed me to stay logged in without any use for a few hours.
As pointed out in my previous comment/problem, complaints are addressed and there are real people manning the site. I'd give it 85 or so.
It's so tiring that seemingly a majority of sites try to rip you off in one way or another. I joined 17 with my credit card card and simply got a page that said "Error." Having learned my lesson from another site, I did nothing. Lo and behold, the next day I was emailed my login and my card was charged. Since this kind of thing has happened more than once or twice, I have to think it's intentional and they're trying to get you to pay twice.
As stated in the previous post, customer support is lacking or, in my case, non-existent. I followed the instructions to cancel (my recurring subscription) and got error messages. An email got no response. Again, I learned my lesson the hard way. Some sites make it as difficult as possible to cancel. However, the fix comes by contacting (and threatening a chargeback if necessary) the credit card processor.
It's too early for a review. I'm still on the Club Seventeen site downloading videos. However, the quality went from good for the first dozen or so videos to fair - I'm about half way through. The quality as stated at the beginning was 1080p and now it's 540p or 720p. And the latter are from 2013.
I joined through Lil Latinas and got New Sensations as a bonus site. Your review is spot on as usual. However, the site just wasn't for me. I won't get into Lil Latinas, but I was sorely disappointed with the video quality and lack of imaginative scenes. New Sensations, on the other hand, contained mostly good quality but again, I found the scenes utterly boring. For me, it was typical unbelievable porn starring wimmin with fake everything.
I can't comment on the download limit because I only downloaded a handful or two of videos. I think my world has become porn'd out, haha. I need something different. The best part of New Sensations was getting full access for 3 days for $4 or $5. That cut my losses. I wish every site would do that.
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