Current Member for over 3 months (at the time of review).
I am giving Piss Bank a 99% rating on my first review ever fully knowing that a 99% review is rare. What makes Piss Bank so different? While it is a very large and high quality peeing site with many models, it is run like the best of the smaller sites, where individual member feedback is actually valued and acted upon. It features many "girls next door", so if you want to see new girls, you will be pleased.
Also, you can email the producer directly, she is happy to talk with members, and she is a true pee fetishist!
-over 860 photo sets of large, sharp photos
-over 1,100 videos
-all except oldest videos in HD, many in 3D too
-plenty of content - hope you have 150 Gb free
-unique European girls not seen in other sites
-all pics have zip files now
When a site is the best in their niche, and they're doing everything so right, it's hard to come up with cons. Here are two minor points:
1. I had difficulty with some links once, but Piss Bank was very responsive and solved the problem fast.
2. Log-in system occasionally asks you to re-enter your password.
This site is a must-have for pee lovers, and I would rank it first in its class! Tons of unique, high quality peeing content at the cutting edge of video with lots of HD and the most 3D I've seen. Tens of thousands of high quality peeing pics, taken by great photographers, and many are so sharp you can see every drop of pee without any blur. The only question I had after looking through this site was, why didn't I join earlier? How did I let myself miss out on this for so long? It's absolutely great!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
04-13-1409:57am (Update History) Reason: Bob Coulter corrected me that larger photos are available on site (see full explanation in "Bottom Line")
This is one of the best Alt porn/Art porn sites I have ever seen. Bob Coulter is brilliant in producing these one of a kind shoots.
-unique artistic photo composition among the best
-innovative camera angles, tilts, lighting and settings
-5616x3744 resolution (post-2008) otherwise mostly 1200x800 resolution with some 1024x768 in the earliest sets dating back to 2000
-over 700 photosets with 200-500 photos each
-3 to 4 new shoots per month
Subjects include solo girl, peeing, showers, public nudity, smoking, occasional b/g action with condoms, tattoos, and piercings.
Settings offer a glimpse into the gritty underbelly of NY and other US cities in the 2000's to present.
This is a photography site. I don't personally consider that to be a flaw, and it does have a few videos too, just don't come here for the videos.
Before reading the other cons below, please remember that while some of this stuff may be objectionable, it is meant to be taken lightly.
A very, very small number of shoots feature:
-simulated violence (models all shown unharmed at end)
-simulated heroin injection (venipuncture is real)
-if you are in the UK, steer clear, because some of these shoots would be considered extreme porn
I mentioned this site in a thread recently, then checked in for a full membership, and now I am so impressed by Bob Coulter's photography that I feel this site deserves a full review. His style of photography is unique, and I cannot name another site that emulates what he does. People throw this term "Art Porn" out there, and I think it's a bit misguided, because art and porn really exist on a spectrum. That being said, part of me wants to say his work is higher up on the art scale than the porn scale, but then at the same time I have to call it porn because it is so erotic. If any of you love the art of photography beyond porn, you will be so glad to find this site. His shots feature very innovative camera angles. He circles the model and shoots from some very unusual perspectives. He also tilts the camera aggressively but with a purpose, aligning with other elements in the scene, usually lines in the model's poses, rather than the horizontal. His models are amazing too. Starting in the year 2000 he has been photographing Alt models, mostly out of New York, NY. It's not a pro or a con, but many have tattoos and piercings. Interestingly, if one of his subjects had a webpage as a model or dominatrix he links back to it. He started photographing his models in 2000, and most of these links to the model sites from the 2000's are dead, yet his site remains as this amazing catalog of Alt models from that decade. He has some of Bella Vendetta's oldest surviving work. Despite this great back catalog of work, he is still actively updating. While his models enjoy the spotlight, his settings are just as amazing. They show the darker, grungier side of New York and other cities including Philly and LA. He might shoot a woman against a backdrop of graffiti in an abandoned building and make the graffiti pop off the wall with almost phosphorescent color saturation. Cheap, grungy, NY hotels with a unique character are a favorite setting, but it's not what you would expect from that. He doesn't just bring models to some cheap places and take some snapshots like an amateur. The way he shoots the models in these settings is clearly deliberate, and the settings fit perfectly with the models' Alt style. He has also done some amazing outdoor shoots in industrial parks, railroads, etc with literally the best rim lighting I have ever seen in porn. In short, I would highly recommend this site, especially for the photo fans. It's totally unique and amazing, just come prepared and don't take some of it too seriously.
*I have updated the score from 86 to 90 after talking with Bob Coulter. While I initially overlooked this, all of his photos from 2009 onward are also available in a staggering 5616x3744 resolution. I had only seen the 1200x800 photos, which is a low resolution for a site that focuses on photography. In contrast, 5616x3744 is about the highest resolution that I have seen. To get the high res photos, you have to scroll down to the bottom of the page where each 1200x800 photo is individually displayed. There is a small link there, which is easy to miss if you don't scroll down, that says "Full Size." Thanks for the correction!
Was a member approx. 5 months prior to this review.
Wetscape.com is a site with history. It is the undisputed, original large pee site. Launched in 1998, Wetscape.com was the most prolific pee site in the early years. They paved the way for all pee sites that followed, and shot almost every type of peeing scene - solo, golden showers, indoors, outdoors, bondage peeing, wetting, naughty peeing, and drinking.
Their members section only seems to have a handful of videos from TheArtofPee.com, making it easy to think they are a site clone. There is a small link there for the Archives section - this is where basically the entire Wetscape site is located!
-great for photo fans
-523 photo sets with over 18,000 photos
-resolution is good for the era at mostly 600x800
-444 videos in 720x526 resolution
This site is only for a sub-set of porn users. You have to either be a dedicated photo fan, or have a real urge to see the original, classic pee site. Those of you who may have surfed the net for pee pics in the early 2000's will recognize a lot of these pics, even if you never joined Wetscape.com. Wetscape.com was so heavily pirated, they all but populated UseNet with pee pics. Those who do not realize this history may look at Wetscape.com and think it has a bunch of non-exclusive UseNet pics, but it is the other way around. These pics actually started off exclusive at Wetscape, but they totally lost control of their content. More than UseNet, there were entire paysites, some of which still exist, that based their content in part or exclusively on Wetscape.com pics. You will still get much more at Wetscape.com than you ever did on UseNet. Other cons:
-there are scattered videos that are truly non-exclusive (less than 5%)
Wetscape.com is one of a kind, and there will never be another site like it. It's creators were pioneers to put together the first large pee site. This is the type of site that you can't criticize for not updating - it is a work in completion. You can't criticize the 800x600 size of the photos - it was part of the era. As a photo lover I think 800x600 is not bad at all, and even with our 3000x2000 photos nowadays, I can still get a lot of enjoyment out of these older pics. No doubt, pee sites since have looked at these photos and had some inspiration.
I remember the first time I was a member at Wetscape.com back in 2002. I spent a month downloading all of their pics, and when I was finished, there was this great sense of accomplishment. Wetscape.com pics made up such a huge chunk of the free pics and even pics at other paysites that that time, that I felt like I had just downloaded a good chunk of all the peeing pics online. Wetscape.com did not watermark their pics, so it was only if you looked at their entire site that you would realize that a huge chunk of those early unidentifiable peeing pics without watermarks started out as exclusive content on Wetscape.com.
Unfortunately, I lost my original porn collection, so where was the first place I went to rebuild it? Wetscape. More bad fortune, I lost my collection a second time, but this time, in 2009, Wetscape.com had closed. If there was any doubt about it in 2008, their closure signified that the era of the first generation pee sites was over. This was a terrible disappointment, because I felt like my collection could literally never be complete without it.
Then, in 2013, something amazing happened. Wetscape.com was back up and running again, thanks to Tramp Stamp Studios! It is so rare for a site to come back from the dead, and for Wetscape.com to come back after 5 years, it seemed too good to be true! As I joined, I just hoped that it wouldn't be a thinned down version of the original, but I was not disappointed! It was all basically there. 98% of their sets were totally intact. Their oldest sets - absolute classics - were reduced to 1 photo each and complied by model into new sets so that a single model that originally had 20 sets would now have one set of 20 photos, each from a different original set. The amazing thing is that Wetscape.com was so heavily copied, that I can still today point anyone who is interested to other peeing paysites that still do have all of the classic Wetscape.com sets that were thinned down! So you can still in the year 2014 have all of the original photos from Wetscape, dating back to 1998!
So you can see from my review that I love this site. I would personally give it a score close to 100%, but in taking into account the general tastes of others and what I know people look for in a site, I had to give it an 85%. What brought it down a bit? The majority of users are looking for video over pictures, and Wetscape.com videos were never among the best - also some truly non-exclusive videos. In addition to that, while the site is 98% complete, and the other 2% can still be found elsewhere, I have to take some points from any site that removes their old stuff as a matter of principle. Also, the lack of zips makes this a time consuming site to visit. It was still totally worth it for me though. The bottom line is this - if you like pictures, peeing, and classic early 2000's material - this is the site for you. Wetscape.com was the first, there will never be another one, and I am glad to have it back!
Was a member approx. 3 months prior to this review.
01-11-1410:16am (Update History) Reason: New errors discovered on site.
The main selling point of this site is tons of great quality photos. The photos are reminiscent of the ATK style, to the point that I would believe it if they used some of the same photographers. The theme is solo girls posing in colorful scenes, and scenes generally include fingering, dildos, and some peeing. Also many lesbian scenes, and some anal, and blowjobs.
-over 1,100 galleries with 100-200 photos each about 1300x2000 in resolution
-240 mostly unique European models (some recognizable ones like Sharka Blue)
-pics come in zips which load without errors
This site could have had a much higher score based on it's pros, but they are overshadowed by it's cons. The major con is that the site is in disarray to the point of being almost unusable. It is not updating, and the webmaster is unreachable about the pervasive errors on the site. If you navigate to even the front page, you will see what I mean. When I was a member, multiple tries were required to load images and pages. Sometimes the site is easier to access through a proxy, but that is hit and miss. In the 3 months since I joined, this problem only seems to have worsened. Any page will load now after enough tries - and sometime you will have to try back several minutes later to have success - but only 10% of pages load on the first attempt. Also, for the video fans, it has under 300 videos in high resolution
This is a site with almost 200,000 unique high quality photos, and it is in a state of extreme disarray and neglect. This is the type of site that is prone to blink out of existence in the near term future. So, if you want a chance to have these amazing pics, the future of this site is very uncertain, and now may be your last chance. Be ready to spend extra time dealing with the very poor functioning of the website though. Despite the extreme difficulty in getting images to load, the zips were uniformly downloadable without errors. If you join this site, it may honestly be easier to just download all 1,100 zips and extract the pics on your system to see them. Me personally, I joined for the peeing pics, and these were conveniently tagged, so I could identify the sets without going through too much trouble. Despite the webmaster being unreachable, there were no problems with cancellation. Bottom line - any day could be the last day for this great site in disarray. If you have any desire for their top quality pics, I would join now, but be ready for a very rough ride. You have to really want these pics, because it will be a time consuming undertaking.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
This site seems to have started off promising, but never really look flight. They have a total of 13 clips and 13 photosets available for members. They have not been removing content, these are the only ones they ever posted. The scenes are all solo girl peeing.
-models include Clara G, Zafira, and Adrianna Russo
-video resolution: 720x408
-photo resolution: 1500x1000
-membership comes with access to 13 other sites in network
There is a minimal amount of content. They don't ever seem to have updated after posting their original 13 scenes. There is just not much more to say here. Also, while Wetscape.com is a Tramp Stamp Studios site, it is not included in the network of sites that come with TheArtofPee.com.
I don't think 13 scenes are worth the price of membership no matter how you cut it. They are decent quality scenes, with recognizable European models, but just way to little to make up a site. The only way I could recommend joining this site is if you were also interested in one or more of the 13 other sites in the network.
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
This site has very little to offer now. They have a combined total of about 30 unremarkable photo sets and videos. The greatness of old is gone. What were their pros in their heyday? They were one of the first sites to ever experiment with catheters and female pee-hole insertions, all in a dark setting. Also tons of peeing, speculums, fisting, anal fisting, and BD/SM. Unfortunately, it's all gone now.
They have removed all of their original content - the thousands of pics and videos that once made them great. Their current portfolio of content is only enough so that they can say they gave you something for your money. It is not even a thinned down sampling of their old stuff, which was high quality, instead it is new, generic filler. The webmasters were totally unreachable.
I'm writing this review so that you can hopefully avoid my mistake. Maybe you once got a taste of the great, classic content from SickPuppy.com. Don't bother to join their site, because it is all gone. The original SickPuppy.com was one of a kind, and would have scored high, but the current site is nothing but a disappointment.
Current Member for over 3 months (at the time of review).
ALS has been setting the bar high for years.
-all models are shaved and otherwise natural
-over 500,000 pics in zips
-overall amount of content is overwhelming
-lost count of videos, but I'd guess over 3000
-most videos in 1080P
-mostly solo and g/g
-subjects also include b/g, peeing, dildos, speculums, fisting, anal insertions, anal fisting and lots of outdoors and BTS
-newly redesigned and searchable website with tags (90% of peeing content was tagged correctly, I looked at everything on their site and tagged the remaining 10%. You are welcome.)
-one, sometimes two updates daily
They are remastering lots of their older stuff. How cool is it to see those favorite pics of yours from years ago in more detail than ever before? This is one of the coolest things going on at ALS right now. I give them so much credit for staying true to their roots, and for putting in the real effort and investment that it takes to do this.
I honestly can't come up with any cons here.
Some past reviews have mentioned their introduction of b/g content as a con, while other have considered it a plus. I'm pretty neutral on it personally. To those who feel that ALS is straying from their roots with b/g content, I will say that is not true. ALS has done b/g content in their early days too, including one video with Mia that I'm thinking of, it was just rare back then.
The merger with Met Art was totally a good thing, all concerns regarding that have not played out, and they have kept everything that made them unique and great while totally modernizing their site.
You may notice some of the oldest archived sets appear thinned out. This is not new, they were thinned out on their old site too, actually those old archived sets were just samples of what was once available on CDGirlsOnline.com. As part of their renovation with Met Art, ALS had actually brought more pics back online than they had before.
ALS - All Ladies Shaved. I obviously love this site, because I have given it my top score. If you look at all of the sites that I have scored close to 100%, they all have one thing in common - they are large, high quality networks that are run like the best of the small operations. This could not be more true of ALS - they go to every length possible to please their customers. Usually, the "Bottom Line" is the section where I go into objective detail about a site. With ALS, I will ask you to forgive me for being a bit subjective, because I would rather tell you the story of my own personal experience. ALS is a site that dates back to 1996, just about my earliest days ever seeing online porn. I didn't find them in the 1990's though, they first came to my attention in the early 2000's. I remember that ALS's pics were the first that I ever saw in 1200x800 resolution back around 2003, and I knew they had just raised the bar on everyone else. Those 1200x800 ALS pics still look amazing today. Back in those early days, I got what ALS pics I could from TGP's and the like because I was not in a position to get a full membership. Over the years, I lost many files, first due to an ill conceived idea to delete my collection, and later to a hard drive crash, but ALS's pics were among the ones that I remembered the most.
So I finally joined ALS a few months ago, hoping to rebuild my old collection and check out all of their new stuff too. I was impressed with the amount of content on ALS's site. They are one of those sites that you really can just get lost in, due to the overwhelming amount of pics and videos. ALS has a very distinctive style. It goes much beyond just having all of their models shaved. They love to do shoots at the beach and by the pool on bright, sunny days. Their models are young and slender with natural breasts and few if any tattoos. They always look like they're having a lot of fun too, and you can see lots of behind the scenes videos where the models are just having a good time with each other and with the staff. At the same time, with all of this lighthearted fun going on, ALS can really push the boundaries. ALS is the only site I can think of where the models seem to be having such a fun time while doing things as extreme as fisting, using speculums, and putting clamps (the ALS "dreamcatcher") on their pussies. Of course, there is lots of peeing too. So, there I was, downloading all of this great stuff from ALS, when I realized that something was missing.
I had some pics from the earliest days of ALS that I just couldn't find anymore. Actually, as I would later learn, the pics that I couldn't find were shot and watermarked by ALS, but they were never on alsscan.com or alsangels.com. They were only released on CD by CDGirlsOnline.com, a site that is long gone. CDGirlsOnlines.com was a site that sold CD's of pics via mail with exclusive ALS pics that couldn't be found on their websites. I was let down, thinking that I might miss out ALS's original, earliest work.
So, I contacted support, and they were incredibly helpful! Support passed my email along to several other employees, each of who were remarkably helpful, until it ended up with ALS's content manager. We compared notes about ALS's pics from it's earliest days, and we looked over the really old stuff that I had in my collection. Almost all of the stuff that couldn't be found anymore was from CDGirlsOnline.com. Despite the fact that they had closed CDGirlsOnline.com years ago, he went the extra mile to help me out. So far, he has found thousands of rare, old pics from CDGirlsOnline.com. The ones that he has found so far were released only for a limited time as bonuses, bloopers, and outtakes on the ALS sites and then removed. Out of incredible generosity, he has made these classic ALS pics from CDGirlsOnline.com available to me. Some people feel inclined to guard and keep secret the rare things that they come across. I would rather as many of you as possible enjoy ALS's pics, so that is why I am sharing this information with you, with ALS's permission. These old pics - bonuses, bloopers, and outtakes - are available to you as well, if you sign up as a member and ask politely. ALS has made no announcement that they will be remastering these pics, posting them on their sites, or making them available indefinitely, but they are available right now by special request. They are not up to current ALS quality standards, they range from 400x600 to 1200x800 in resolution, but they are the sharpest 400x600 pics I have ever seen. It's also really cool to have ALS pics with watermarks dating back to 1996, even if the resolution is low by today's standards. What's more, ALS tells me that they still have everything that they ever shot, some in RAW files, and the earliest content on analog color film, all saved in a storage locker somewhere. Isn't that the stuff of legends?
Was a member approx. 1 month prior to this review.
WetAndPissy.com is the best new development in the world of pee sites since it's launch in 2012. They are doing just about everything right and setting the standard high. Their focus is on extremely high quality solo girl peeing.
-photo resolution 2800x1867
-video resolution 1080P (1920x1080)
-wide variety of great models
-action includes solo peeing, pee drinking, and pussy pumps (a defining feature of the Puffy Network)
-attention is paid to the model's dress, makeup, and setting with lots of variety and visually stimulating settings
-all suggestions on TBP to date have been addressed including renaming all of the files as suggested previously in the comments
The above has all the makings for an excellent review, but what bumps it over the top for a 100%? This site is a perfect example of how a site should be run. Their owner is extremely attentive to his members, which is rare in a large network site. It is abundantly clear that he is working very hard to make his site the best.
Hard to think of any cons for this site. Not really a con in my book, but you know what you are getting with this site. If solo girl peeing presented in a glamorous way is not what you are looking for, then maybe look elsewhere?
WetAndPissy.com is a pee site like no other. I feel comfortable giving a rating of 100%, because I am not only drawing on my own experience. I keep in touch with a number of other people online with similar interests, and WetAndPissy.com is consistently mentioned as a favorite. They are a relatively new site in a niche with over a decade worth of material online, yet they have managed to create a unique and unmistakable style that defines their scenes. They are generally shot indoors in very stylish, modern, artistic settings. The quality of the photography is readily apparent, and they bring out the best in their models. One of my favorite themes in their work is models peeing on a glass table, with shots from both above and below. In keeping with the WetAndPuffy.com tradition, they also feature a good number of scenes with pussy pumps. The have a distinctive and umistakaeble style, which is hard to accomplish.
On their landing page, they say "They are rare, but we found them - hot pissing girls..." Well, those who know the niche well know that at a glance it seems like there are plenty of them on the net. But what is rare is NEW sites dedicated to peeing, like WetAndPissy.com. In fact, in 2014, WetAndPissy.com remains the most recent dedicated pee site on the scene. So if you are looking for the freshest content, shot artfully in high resolution, then I would give this site my highest recommendation.
Glad to see this site getting some notice. Great review!
I agree with you that this is an excellent site overall. In my book, they are the unquestioned leader in hardcore pissing. In the year 2014, with hardcore pissing in decline due to biller regulations, they take it to the limits. They keep their shoots high quality and classy too. My only critique would be that the site still needs time to grow and add more scenes, but that is usually the case with relatively new sites. I would definitely recommend anyone with even a passing interest or a bit of curiosity to check this site out.
Slightly important. They can improve upon a good scene, but they don't make it or break it for me.
Multiple camera angles sometimes mean fewer photos, and that is a big downside for me. For example, I talked with a producer who shoots with a crew of three. Two video cameras for different angles plus a third stereoscopic camera mount for 3D video. Prior to this setup, they had the third member available to shoot photos, but now they have to be video only.
Hopefully that is a long way off, since I am 30 years old. My stash contains too much rare and unique content to be lost, so I hope to find a like minded "porn buddy" some day to pass it along to. I know you're technically not supposed to do that, but in 50 years most of today's companies will probably be gone, so I don't see much harm in it to anyone's bottom line. I also wouldn't want to pirate stuff from active companies, I would just want to pass on the rare stuff from sites that have closed.
I like the BTS content at some sites like Abby Winters. One of the cool things about their BTS pics that never gets mentioned is that you get to see some technical aspects of how they set up their shoots. For example, lots of outdoor pics show not only the model and sometimes the photographer, but also often the girls assisting and holding reflectors etc. Kind of cool for the photo geek in me.
That is great news. Thank you for getting in touch with your reproduction team on my behalf. I am really glad to hear that these amazing shoots have a chance of being seen again, and that you would be willing to say a few words for me at your updates planning. I completely understand why you must follow a specific structure as you remaster your older content. I will be in touch with you regarding some specific requests. Sometimes I think porn is like art ... too often it isn't fully appreciated until it becomes scarce. Now that these classic DDF shoots are gone, if only temporarily, I have realized how amazing they really are. It's an uncommon site that would give the time of day to this type of request, and an even rarer one that would honor it. DDF already stands out thanks to your reply.
You'll have to buy an old 5 1/4" floppy drive. They're about $35 on eBay. You'll probably also need a floppy controller card, because most modern BIOS don't have native support for 5 1/4" floppy drives. You can get a controller for $60 here http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html. If you want to see those photos again, I'd get them now, because the hardware you need will only get harder to find and more expensive.
DDF is lacking nothing in terms of new updates. You are putting out some amazing stuff. Did you read my comments on the previous DDF review and on my poll regarding removing old content where I mentioned DDF? You will see that this is something that I am very opinionated about. I was about to post a review that gave DDF some of my highest praises but also some harsh but honest criticism for removing some truly epic older shoots. My interactions with your first-line customer support have been pleasant, but after 6 months they have not resulted in a single classic DDF shoot in the pee fetish genre being re-posted. The sets that I have in mind don't have Best By Dates, and they feature models such as Sandy, Justine Joli, Zafira, and Zuzana Z.
For a while I held off on writing my review of DDF. It would have been a difficult review to write. On one hand, DDF is amazing, and your new content deserves 100%. On the other hand, it frustrates me to no end to have missed out on such amazing older content. I am glad to see you posting here for DDF and listening to PU members. I would love to give you feedback as you remaster older content. Is there a way we can talk more about this? You can either reply to me here, PM me here at PU, or reply to my email via my username LPee23 at DDF. I am now holding off on writing my review again, not because I even presume that an honest but negative review from one member could necessarily move mountains at DDF, but because I really hope that this issue can be resolved, and I would really much rather write you the positive review that I think you deserve one day.
I didn't like it for the longest time. Then one day I was watching an AbbyWinters.com video featuring a hairy model, and something just clicked, her natural state was all of a sudden such a turn on. I still like shaven most of the time, because too much hair can hide the pussy lips, but I do understand the appeal in hairy.
Once I was driving a friend home after she had a run. She was kind of the hippie type, very hot, but she only shaved her legs, not even the armpits. She was sweaty after her run, and she apologized for her BO, but actually it was kind of a turn on. It wasn't the nasty, haven't showered in three days-type smell, it was more just fresh but sweaty and aromatic.
I knew she wanted me, but I didn't play into any of her advances. I had broken up with my ex at the time - now my wife - and I was still too fixated on my ex, despite the fact that I had broken up with her. I was tempted though. I still really wonder what it would have been like though, but now I will never know. No complaints though, my wife and I have been happily together for 8 years, and she is a smoking hot ex-model who loves pee almost as much as I do.
Sorry for the digression, I've had a couple of glasses of wine tonight. Hope you guys enjoy nonetheless.
My issue with DDF and their old content is slightly different than yours. At this point, since I've already come out talking about this issue in vague terms, I think it's time to get it all out and write my review. I hate to expose shortcomings of a great site, but if no one speaks up, then where is the motivation to change? I'm going to try not to slam DDF, I'd rather have them look at my review as fair and perhaps realize that there is truth in it. Look forward to it soon.
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