You kinda glossed over that one change - Download Format. No longer available - WMV downloading of any quality (not a big deal for me) and NO Downloading of 5-minute clips at all (HUGE deal-breaker for me). . . What we are left with are - Take the full video or take nothing, and, if you do take the full video, you have but 2 choices - 1080 or 540 - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!. . . You can call this an upgrade all you want, but to my eyes, this is a SERIOUS step backward.
Interminable waits to log in. . . Literally, MINUTES to switch from page to page, or to play a scene. . . .Support was very cordial, and tried to be helpful (clear cookies, try Chrome or Firefox, etc. - none of which worked), but the bottom line is. . . I have neither the time, nor the inclination to sit there and wait forever for 5- year- old scenes (which comprise 90% of this site and their sister sites - Ghetto, and Hardcore Doorway. . . You`d be better off flushing your money down the toilet - less aggravation.. . STAY AWAY!
The offer I received was also for 10 sites (one of them being `Dancing Bear`). . . They did not alert me to anything (I happened to notice there was no "Add Site" link under `Dancing Bear`). . . I almost would have let it slide if I had received the 10 site package, but it was $29.95 for `Dancing Bear` only (that being the only site that didn`t have "Add Site" under it). . . .I also recall another warning posted a while back about this site - If, at some time in the future, you log in to see what`s new - Guess what, you`re automatically subscribed again (This is not verified by me). . . Be Careful with these scumbags.
I want to take a moment to thank the members of this site, for warning us about Bang Bros` shady business practices. . . I recently concluded a very enjoyable 2-month stay there. . . Upon cancellation, I, too, was offered a discount package, which I declined. . . Just to allay my suspicions, and since I had a few days remaining, I logged back in and, lo and behold, I now had access to a separate site - `Dancing Bear`. . . I immediately checked my card online and found a new charge for $29.95!. . . I called their support and they cancelled it (although they said it would take 7-10 days - It only took them 7-10 MINUTES to charge it!). . . They did send a cancellation confirmation. . . If it wasn`t for all of your warnings, I would never have known about it.
Pat, I appreciate your explanation, but I`m not sure it holds water. . .The punishment scenes on Brazzers were actually quite tame when compared to a site like KINK, yet VISA is accepted at KINK. . . I suspect new ownership at Brazzers desiring a "classier" sort of porn. . .This is my 2nd go-round at Brazzers, so I DL`ed many scenes before, but missed many newer ones. . . In addition to "punishment" scenes being deleted, there`s a whole slew of other scenes which have also been excised.
They recently changed their format and the problems are staggering. . .First, they stopped making videos for "Pornstar Punishment", which was the main reason I joined. . . But, worse than that, they inexplicably REMOVED ALL the "punishment" videos completely. . . Worse than that, every day the same thing happens - I stream a few videos perfectly, then the whole site crashes and no videos will play. . .I`m on other sites which work perfectly on my computer. . . Support is non-existent. . .Looks like 1 month and out for me. . . Judging by their "forum", its widespread. . . You`ve been warned.
Great talking with you, Pat. . . Always beneficial to discuss a topic with 1) Someone who is so knowledgeable on the subject, and 2) Someone who can intelligently express their views. . . . You certainly ace both those qualifications. . . Keep up the good work.
Yeah, Pat, the last time I was there I recall 2 or 3 girls who came to their senses and walked off the set about 8-10 minutes into a scene. . . Wondering what you think of some of the sites on Kink.com. . . I was there a few months ago, and some of the gangbang scenes (with a kidnap/rape plot) and some of the Public Disgrace scenes went pretty far too. But, it appears the producers and directors go out of their way to explain to the star exactly what`s going to happen, and are genuinely concerned that they are safe and comfortable. . . On a lighter and happier note, I just received an E-Mail from Adult Doorway indicating I would be getting a full refund.
Wouldn`t call myself a "fan", but I do like to see some rough stuff every now and then. . . That being said, no argument, this is, far and away, THE single most abusive site on the web - After D/L-ing a scene, I have to edit out a lot of the choking and forced vomiting (and the re-consumption of the vomit!). . . Amazingly though, there are some big name stars here (and not at the start of their careers) - like Tory Lane, Amber Rayne, Mika Tan, etc. . . And, admittedly, some girls, at the end of their scenes, look like they`ve just been anally gangbanged at a biker bar. . . But, then there are others who RETURN a 2nd or 3rd time. Go figure. . . Suffice it to say, this ain`t Vivid. . . .My point was, whether you watch this kind of stuff or not, having to literally wait MINUTES after every click you make is unacceptable for ANY site.
HA, HA, 1 year later, its nice to see this site has 1 thing going for it - Consistency. . . After several futile tries to log in, you`ll find interminable waits to switch from page to page. . . Mind-numbing delays to watch a scene, after hitting `PLAY`. . . It takes MINUTES to accomplish anything here. . . Support was very courteous, and tried to be helpful, but in the end, nothing works. . . You`d be better off flushing your money down the toilet - less aggravation. . . STAY AWAY
Thanks Pat, for another terrific review. . . Just 1 question. . .I was just looking at the sample (1:00) videos on their site and I noticed that they all had slo-mo segments in them. I was just wondering if this is something they did for their trailers, or are there slo-mo segments in the actual scenes (which I can`t stand). Thanx.
Hey pat, I was just wondering why you state "I know that I will NEVER join" ass factory. . . .I was a member there last year and thought it had superior content. Is it the fact that the site is new (with a small number of scenes), or the fact that their updates are incredibly slow (Only 25 new scenes were added in the 8+ months since I left them). . . or is there another reason?
I recently revisited Naughty America (my 3rd time), utilizing their recent $5 / month special. . .I knew going in that N.A. was not the rauunch-fest that other sites provide (No gang-bangs, DPs, and very little anal). . .But, I was somewhat taken aback by the uninspired, mechanical sex, with lame set-ups and unflattering camera work in most of the newer scenes. . .I found some scenes from 2010-11 that I had missed before which were hot, but the recent scenes just left me cold. . . One other word of caution - While I didn`t D/L many new scenes, their comment pages were absolutely littered with complaints about broken links and other technical problems. Again, no 1st-hand knowledge on this.
Not sure what you`re referring to. . . I`ve been a member for several years now, and what struck me was the OUTSTANDING preview that they offered. . .By using the blue buttons at the top of the page you can examine, and click on every single pornstar, movie, or even scene (minus the KINK premium channel) on the entire site. You can even "thumbnail-prevew" every scene. . . When I read your comment today, I went to the page, but didn`t log in just to see. . . For me, I was still able to do what I just described. . .Possibly try using a different browser (I use I.E.) Good Luck.
You are, of course, correct. . . But, the point I was trying to make was, as a VB member, you can get access to their current list of Elegant Angel movies for a TOTAL cost of $2.00 (Simply wait until the last 3-4 days of your monthly VB subscription to "jump in", DL, and "jump out".. . .Also, since many of Elegant Angel`s scenes are close to an hour, the custom-clip feature at VB comes in real handy. . .Anyway, it was just a thought. . I enjoy your comments. . Have a Merry Christmas.
Just a note to advise everyone, that VB has added 2 new premium channels.. . .For an extra $15/month, you have full access to Elegant Angel movies (As of today, there are 41 titles, with 3 titles being added every week. . Also added is "Soft on Demand" - pixilated Japanese porn (for $35/month. . .If you don`t know already, you can subscribe to ANY of their premium channels on a pro-rated basis (e.g. - if you wait until the last week of your regular monthly subscription, you can order any premium channel for 1/4 the price (just be sure to cancel it at the end of that week!). . . The Japanese porn seems pointless to me, but the Eleg. Angel ALREADY has great titles with Kristina R, Jenna H, Tori B, etc. . Worth a look.
You`ve been whining and complaining about this site since MAY !!. . . .If its so damn bad, WHY ARE YOU STILL A MEMBER ??. . .Only 2 answers - You`re exaggerating or you`re just, plain stupid !. . .My guess would be both. . .Love & kisses, honeybun.
Don`t get your panties in an uproar, Michelle. . . Cute way you chose NOT to answer my questions.
My last word on this - Does the site OCCASIONALLY freeze? Yeah, then it unfreezes. . .Do I OCCASIONALLY get a "404" page? Yeah. then I click again and get through. . . Am I ever unable to log-in? Never, and I`m there every day. . .Not denying the existence of problems, just saying they don`t make this "1 of the most shabbily run porn sites on the web", as you suggested. . . No, I don`t work for VB. . . And, as for your last remark - No Thanks, I already know enough assholes. Bye, Bye, Sweet-ums
mike, stop your whining. . you sound like a little girl.
1) YOU SAID " They Just Quit Posting The Name Of The Star On All Of The Scenes". . .Now you say you meant the "2nd page"??. . I guess I CAN read; you just can`t write! BTW, Do you forget the star`s name in the time it takes to click from 1 page to another?
2) ANY IDIOT could easily find the new releases. . .2 SIMPLE clicks.
3) How many members have complained?. . .Show us your stats, or are you just pulling this stuff out of your ass?
A site this massive is ALWAYS going to experience technical problems from time to time. . . And, I`m sure current members are thrilled with your brilliant suggestion that they should HIKE their prices in the futile hope that the problems would magically disappear. . . BTW, just curious, but WHY ARE YOU STILL A MEMBER??
I think mike11w exaggerated just a bit. . . While there are minor technical glitches, I have never not been able to enter the site. . . While occasionally it takes a few seconds to go from page-to-page, its only occasional, and not a REAL problem. . . They DID switch their home page from displaying "new releases" to displaying "recommended movies", but 2 easy clicks (horrifying!) get you right back to the new ones. . .They DID say they would be cutting back from their 5 new DVDs / day release policy. . . But, with a treasure trove of 12,000+ DVDs, the ability to custom clip D/L`s (to save D/D space),cheap access to Evil Angel, Reality Kings, and Kink.com videos (available at a fraction of the printed cost, if you use their "partial month offer") and the recent addition of Jules Jordan and Anabolic studio releases, this site still remains at the top of my list. . . As for the unnamed stars, that generally only happens on the lower-budget or European releases, where the girls seem to change their names every movie - not a REAL problem.
Just one last word on the subject - I visited the Videosz site and didn`t find any reference to that Hustler offer. . . I suspect, if, in fact, it exists, it would probably be free ACCESS to the Hustler website, which (we both agree is worthless). . . And, one last, last word - Don`t know if you`re aware or not, but, if you go to Videosz, you can literally see every DVD that they have. And, they allow you to click on any DVD, and see the screencaps for each scene in that DVD. Good Luck, my friend.
BTW, You mentioned your inkling to join Hustler. . . I would advise you to read the reviews of that site. . . Almost to a man, they decried the substandard picture quality of their videos. . .I, of course, ignored them. . . Well. they were right and I was wrong. . . Absolutely, the worst I`ve ever seen, for a supposedly big name company. . . I was stuck for 30 days and didn`t D/L a single scene.
@hodayathink - While there is, obviously, a huge amount of duplication between the 2 sites, I believe the main distinguishing differences are - Videobox offers free access to dozens and dozens of DVDs from Anabolic Studios, and Jules Jordan Studios. . In addition, they have paid access to Evil Angel, Vivid, Reality Kings, Kink, and Elegant Angel DVDs . . .About the only products that I know of that are exclusive to Videosz (aside from random videos) are the ever-growing (currently about 65 titles) recently added Max Hardcore DVDs - under his various titles (starting about 8 months ago); the older Baker`s Dozen series of terrific blowbang videos; and the old Eromaxx orgy series. . . I KNOW i`m leaving some out, but those are the main ones.
Thanx for your recent review. You`re obviously about 10 light years ahead of me, regarding the various technical aspects of a site. . .I was on this site for 3 months last year (April-June). Usually, I spent a couple of hours a day, viewing and downloading. I probably DL`ed 150-200 scenes. . . Never saw any "Upgrades" or "Downgrades". . .Never had slowing site problems, or disappearing videos. . . All my DL`s (no 1080`s) look as good, if not better than those from other sites. Has the site changed since last year? Or am just too dense to have noticed all this?
So, if you take a moment to explain what you meant by 1) a throttled user; 2)an upgrading site, 3)disappearing videos; and 4)how does the quality change if you`re more than a casual user?. . .Please dumb-down your answer into layman`s terms so I might understand it. Thanks.
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